Hello and welcome to my CAPiTA Kazu Kokubo snowboard review.
In this review, I will take a look at the Kazu as a freeride snowboard.
As per tradition here at SnowboardingProfiles.com I will give the Kazu a score out of 100 (based on several factors) and see how it compares with other freeride snowboards.
Overall Rating
Board: CAPiTA Kazu Kokubo Pro
Price: $649
Style: Freeride
Flex Rating: Medium-Stiff (6.5/10)
Flex Feel on Snow: Medium-Stiff (7/10)
Rating Score: 88.0/100
Compared to other Men’s Freeride Boards
Out of the 35 men’s freeride snowboards that I rated:
Overview of the Kazu’s Specs
Check out the tables for the Kazu’s specs and available sizes.
Specs
Style: | Freeride |
Price: | $649 |
Ability Level: |  |
Flex: |  |
Feel: |  |
Turn Initiation: | Medium-Fast |
Edge-hold: |  |
Camber Profile: | Directional Hybrid Camber - CAPiTA's "Alpine V2 Profile" |
Shape: | |
Setback Stance: | Setback 0.5" (12.5mm) |
Base: | Sintered - CAPiTA's Hyperdrive base |
Weight: | Really Light |
Sizing
LENGTH (cm) | Waist Width (mm) | Rec Rider Weight (lb) | Rec Rider Weight (kg) |
|---|---|---|---|
151 | 251 | 100-150 | 45-68 |
154 | 253 | 100-160 | 45-72 |
157 | 255 | 130-190 | 59-86 |
160 | 257 | 140-200+ | 63-90+ |
Who is the Kazu Most Suited To?
The Kazu is a great board for anyone who predominantly likes to ride powder when it's there and carve the groomers, when it's not. It's also something that's even better for those that like to send it in the powder, whether in the sidecountry or the backcountry - and a great board for riding trees.
Not for a beginner. You'll want to be a solid intermediate rider before riding this thing - but if you are, and the above description sounds like you, then this is a great choice.
The Kazu in More Detail
O.k. let’s take a more detailed look at what the Kazu is capable of.
Demo Info
Board: Capita Kazu Kokubo Pro 2021, 157cm (255mm waist width)
Date: February 25, 2020
Conditions: Lightly snowing picked up to moderate during testing. Some fresh over the prvious 48 hours too. Around 15cm I think.
Visibly wasn't bad though. Not 100% but 80-85%
-3°C (26.6°F) with wind. Feels about that. Cold but certainly not bone chilling cold
Off groomer some decent powder pockets in places. On groomer soft packed and quite cruddy
Bindings angles: +15/-15
Stance width: 555mm (21.85″)
Stance Setback: Setback 12.5mm
Width at Inserts: 265mm (10.43") at front insert and 262mm (10.32") at back insert
Rider Height: 6'0"
Rider Weight: 175lbs
Rider Boot Size: US10 Salomon Lo-Fi
Bindings Used: Burton Malavita M
Weight: 2600g (5lbs 12oz)
Weight per cm: 16.56 grams/cm
Average Weight per cm: 18.36 grams/cm*
*based on a small sample size of around 80 boards that I've weighed in 2019, 2020 & 2021 models. The Kazu is one of the lightest boards I've weighed! Capita boards are typically light, and the Kazu is even lighter than the average Capita board. On snow it felt nice and light too.
Didn't feel quite as light as the "Ultralight Powder Displacement Snowcraft" (which was heavier on the scales but felt lighter on the snow) but still felt really light on snow (light boards on the scales don't always feel light on snow and visa versa).
Damp or Chattery?
Right in the middle of the scale. Not ultra damp but definitely not chattery either.
Smooth or Snappy?
Again, right in the middle, but maybe just on the smooth side of the scale.
Powder
Felt really nice to ride in the powder I had. And that's no surprise, given the rocker in the nose, the taper and the little bit of a longer nose than tail, and little bit of setback. Not as surfy as something like the Ultralight Powder Snowcraft I rode on the same day, but fun nonetheless.
Carving & Turning
Carving: Really nice on a carve. For a board this good in powder, this is quite a precise carving board.
Maneuverability at slow speeds: Nice and maneuverable at slower speeds. Has that rare ability to feel stable at speed, but still be quite agile at slower speeds.
Turning: Easy enough to initiate a turn and good energy/spring out of a turn. The more you put in the more you get back - but you don't have to put in your everything just to turn it. You can get a little casual on it.
Skidded Turns: Not super easy/forgiving of skidded turns, so definitely not for the beginner. But not catchy feeling either.
Speed
Nice and stable at speed. For all its other qualities it has a remarkable ability of having good stability at speed.
Uneven Terrain
Nimble enough to weave through bumps and forgiving enough to absorb them.
Good in crud too.
Let’s Break up this text with a Video
Jumps
This is one of the better freeride boards for jumps. So if you're looking for a freeride board, but don't want to sacrifice too much for jumps, this is definitely worth checking out.
Pop: Good pop which is relatively easy to access. When you put more in you get more out too. So you can access some with very little effort, but you can get more if you load it up.
Approach: A good balance of being stable for faster approaches but nimble enough for trickier approaches
Landing: Nice and solid on landings and has some forgiveness for when you get it a little wrong.
Side-hits: Good combination of pop and agility. It's not ultra agile, but decently agile, particularly for it's flex, and the combination makes it a fun option for sidehits on the way to that powder stash (or in that powder stash).
Small jumps/Big jumps: Small is OK, but comes to its sweet spot more with medium to large air.
Switch
It's definitely not something you can't ride switch, but not ideally suited to it either.
Spins
Good enough for getting spins around, and good pop for getting the air you need. Not amazing landing and taking off switch for 1s, 5s etc, but doable for sure.
Butters
Not the hardest I've tried to butter, but not super buttery either. At best 3/5, but maybe more 2.5/5.
Score Breakdown and Final Verdict
Check out the breakdown of the score in the table below.
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
POWDER | 4.5 | 22.5/25 |
SPEED | 4.0 | 16/20 |
CARVING | 4.0 | 12/15 |
TURNS/SLASHING | 4.0 | 8/10 |
CRUD/CHUNDER | 4.0 | 8/10 |
TREES/BUMPS | 4.0 | 8/10 |
JUMPS | 4.0 | 4/5 |
SWITCH | 2.5 | 2.5/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 88.0/100 |
The Kazu is a great weapon for attacking the sidecountry, the trees and carving up the groomers in between. It's also one of those freeride boards that's also really good for jumps and handles uneven terrain really well.
It's a freeride/powder board with the versatility of an all-mountain board.
Versus something like the Navigator I rode on the same day, the Kazu has just that bit more bite, bit more precision - a little less surfy. And when you put the energy in, it gave it back - that's the same with any board, but versus the Navigator, and the average board, it had a higher ceiling of the energy you could get back. But you didn't have to put a ton of effort in just to get it to ride - you could still ride it a little casual when you felt like it.
More Info, Current Prices and Where to Buy Online
If you want to learn more about the Kazu, or if you are ready to buy, or if you just want to research prices and availability, check out the links below.
If you want to check out some other freeride snowboard options, or if you want to compare how the Kazu compares to other freeride snowboards, then check out the next link.
Hello and welcome to my Capita Kazu Kokubo review.
Hi Nate
Great site with heaps of info!
Just wanted to ask your opinion:
After another board for more Alpine based snowboarding. At the moment I have a Burton Mystery Fish 156cm that is great when I go to Canada and Japan for the trees and super playful and light (def like a light board). Perhaps sometimes could go longer for the low angle Japan stuff but seems to work ok….
I am 182cm and weight 78kg Boot size 11 US 50+ years old and not an aggressive rider. No airs. Just prefer backcountry riding. Based in New Zealand but try and get to Nelson in Canada and Japan each year but feel like the Burton Fish has me covered for the Cat Boarding around Nelson and Japan backcountry.
But was in Alaska (week trip) this past season and felt the Fish wasn’t for me the best option. I’m not an expert by any means. Still skid my turns and don’t do any airs etc. Looking for something with a bit more tail that would help me in Steeper terrain. If I was a better rider then I’m sure the fish would be fine but it is what it is and thought I should get another board to help in the steeper stuff.
Looking at Capita Kazu or Jones or Yes boards but open to other brands.
My current boots are the Ride 92 which maybe I need something stiffer for 40+ degrees but again not blaming my equipment. My riding level is that I can get a maybe 3 weeks a year of mostly Cat/Heli and the remainder 10 days or so following the Grommets around the ski area.
Thanks!
Hi John
Thanks for your message.
Given your riding style, level and what you’re looking for, I think the Kazu would work for sure. The YES PYL would also be a great option, IMO. I would probably go for one of those. Other options too for sure, but within those brands, I think those boards would work well. The Jones Flagship an option too. A little stiffer than the other 2, but manageable still.
I think ideally slightly stiffer boots, but the 92 should do the job, if you didn’t want to add extra boots into your collection. If you did, then going with something at least 7/10 flex would be a good bet. I probably wouldn’t go stiffer than around 8/10 at this stage as I feel you would still benefit from a little more forgiveness than a 9/10 to 10/10 would offer.
Size-wise for the boards mentioned I would be looking at:
Kazu: 160 (though it might still be too narrow. It’s around 264mm at the back insert, assuming a roughly 560mm (22″) stance width, which is borderline for 11s, IMO).
PYL: 160W (I think this size would be ideal)
Flagship: 159W
Hope this helps
Thanks Mate!
You’re very welcome John. Hope your season is sick in NZ!
Hi Nate,
First of all I think your reviews are amazing, only second to you helping so many random people with their questions.
So here’s mine…
I’m 39 and been riding for almost 25 yrs, although that’s mostly just one week a year, and there’s a 6 year gap during which I must admit I gained a few pounds (and two kids :)).
My 154 Burton Twin from 2007 is holding on for dear life and it’s time for its retirement.
I’m 184 cm, weigh about 85 kg and i have a size 9.5 US boot size.
I’m not a park or big jump guy (would probably end up in the hospital), but I’m well in control of my board. Love me some speed and carving up some groomers before noon, but when things slow down I like to play around, hit a few side jumps, butter around a bit, do some switch riding and if I there is some powder between two slopes, then that’s where we’re going.
What I’m looking for is a new “best friend”. A board that’s going to feel locked in at speed, but that i don’t have to drag and work it when i’m playing around.
Oh, and I’m a sucker for graphics although I know that shouldn’t matter :D.
After extensive research, my gaze has set upon following boards:
– Capita Kazu
– Lib Tech T. Rice Pro
– Yes! Greats Uninc (which unfortunately is sold out everywhere)
Bindings : 99% sure I’ll buy the Nidecker Supermatics, because I’m just too out of shape and want something easy. European resorts are mostly short runs on well prepared groomers, lots of strapping in and out of your bindings.
Which one would you recommend, or is there anything else you’d have me look at?
Thanks for your help and have a great day!
Hi Stephane
Thanks for your message.
I would be leaning Kazu, mostly because it sounds like powder is a higher priority than switch riding. The Kazu is doable switch – certainly not ideal but doable – and the best of the 3 in powder for sure – and the best for speed and equal best for carving, IMO. So that’s where I’d be leaning. It’s also probably the least playful, but it’s still something that you don’t have to fight and ride aggressively all the time. The other one I would throw out there is the YES PYL.
The Supermatics should match well to any of those options, IMO.
Size-wise, for the Kazu, I would be leaning 157, to get that balance between speed/carving/powder and for when you want to slow it down. I would put your “typical all-mountain size” at closer to 160, so the 160 is definitely an option for you, but to mellow it out a little bit – and because you’re used to riding a 154, I would be leaning 157. For the PYL I’d say 159 is your best bet. If you were to go Greats, then I’d say 156 and for the T Rice Pro probably 157.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thank you for your feedback and the sizing advice, I appreciate it a lot!
Pow is indeed above switch, but in Europe it’s a rare treat (especially in the spring where it’s almost all slush from a certain point in the day) , so I wouldn’t put playfulness too far behind.
I’ll check out the PYL too.
Thanks again and have a great day !
Stephane
You’re very welcome Stephane. Hope you have a great day too!
Hi Nate! Thank you for all the reviews posted! Great work!
After a 6 years pause, I decided to buy this summer a new board – I ended up with a GNU Money, which a I used for around 8 days this season. Before that, I had a Burton Bullet 2009. I like the GNU for its magna traction, for the fact that is a symmetrical board and makes riding switch easy, but eventually, something feels like is not right – maybe too much chattering and feeling exhausted after riding it in uneven terrain.
I usually ride 8-10 days per winter and mostly on groomers, but I enjoy very much off-piste, when powder is available and some park, from time to time – I consider my level as being intermediate. I will also keep the Gnu for some fun, but I need something more stable than this one (also on ice), to carve well and to hit some natural features, without too much stress. I need something which is complementary to the Gnu, but can be used also as an all arounder.
I am oscillating between (in order of my preferences):
1. Kazu 154
2. Yes PYL UnInc 155
3. Travis Rice Pro 23 153 (i know that this is totally different than the ones above but still close to the Gnu, which I enjoy it, but I think that could be stiffer and more stable).
I am 1.69m, 73 kg and my size for the boots is 43 (EU).
What do you think about these boards? Thank you in advance for your answer and in case you have any other suggestion, I am open to it.
Hi Daniel
Thanks for your message.
I would be leaning Kazu 154 for what you’re describing.
The T Rice Pro is certainly more stiffer and more stable than the Money, but it’s less complimentary in your quiver. Not bad in powder, but not as good as the Kazu or PYL Uninc. I would go more directional, more freeride for your complimentary board.
Even though you want stiffer and more stable than the Money, I think the PYL Uninc is probably going to be a little too stiff, as an intermediate rider and with your specs. We haven’t tested it, but know it’s supposed to be quite a bit stiffer than the PYL regular. I think the PYL (non-uninc version) could work though and would be a good compliment to the Money.
The Kazu fits everything you’re describing, IMO, is a good compliment to the Money and whilst it will definitely be stiffer and more stable, it’s not something that should feel too stiff for you, IMO. I agree with your sizing on it. I think 154 is your best bet for the Kazu.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thanks a lot! Indeed, your advice helps.
But.. after one day of extra research, I am taking also into consideration Jones Mountain Twin 154. Do you think would suit what I am looking for?
Best!
Hi Daniel
It could work for sure. It would be the easier board to transition to compared to the others you mentioned. But it would still give you a noticeably more stable feel than the Money. It’s decent in everything from powder to park. So I think it would definitely work. Doesn’t have the powder or carving performance of something like the Kazu or PYL, but it’s a little quicker turning at slower speeds and better in the park – and still decent in powder – and IMO a little better than the T Rice Pro in powder.
Thanks for all the advices! Eventually, I ended up with a JMT, which I did not tested yet. I am considering also buying some new bindings for it and I am not decided, either Strata or Falcor. Which one do you think will be better, considering all the above?
Hi Daniel
Either would work well with the MT, IMO. Both a good flex match to the MT, though I’d say the Strata a little better of a flex match. The Falcor would give you better carving and a little better for riding bigger carves at higher speeds, with the Strata a little better for tighter turns at slower speeds. So if you wanted to help the board to be a bit more carvy, then the Falcor but if you want a little more of a relaxed, more mellow feeling, then the Strata.
Nate,
Last year you helped me with getting a new board. It was an up and down process and I learned so much. I ended up last year with the yes pyl, there were some issues so ultimately this year I got the new Flagship (which is what I started with last year, a 160w, felt like a boat but got the size right this year with a 161)and love it. I also got a Capita Mercury to go with it. Seemed like a good board quiver for me though I’m not a freestyle guy. I charge hard, love the trees (if you know where to go it’s hard to find anywhere in Washington as good even though it’s a relatively small resort), love playing on side hits on the run outs to the bottom, I ride switch only when I’m getting out of something and love all carves (short and long) tight turns and do a steep and deep cat trip once a year. I thought they complimented what I do well and I broke it after 3 days of riding. Just bad luck.
SO Capita is more than awesome. They didn’t warranty the board but gave me a huge discount on any board. I decided on the Kazu. I didn’t get the Mercury again because the one thing I didn’t like is it felt catchy to me at slow speeds. I haven’t opened the Kazu yet but am wondering if maybe I messed up and should have looked at something else. My thoughts were it is a more nimble Freeride board and better at slower speeds than the FS so I could go back and forth depending on the day. I did try a Navigator and hated it. I realize I really like that mid-stiff flex area and am not a fan of of mid to soft boards at all. My worries are there is just too much overlap between the FS and the Kazu or maybe I nailed it and got it right. Is there something else in the Capita line you would think would work better? DO you think for what I ride I got it right? I would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you
Hi Max
Thanks for your message and update.
Whilst there are a lot of similarities between the FS and Kazu, they are quite different feeling boards. The Kazu fits what you’re describing really well, IMO. Trees and side hits, not much switch and powder are all strengths of the Kazu, IMO. You’re not going to get more out of it than the FS for powder – I would still take that on your steep and deep cat trips for sure. But, IMO, it’s a little better for sidehits, and depending on sizing you might like it better in trees too. I think in a shorter size to your FS, it could work well in a quiver for your style of riding. I do feel there could be quite a bit of overlap if you got the 160. But if you got the 157, I think that could definitely work in a quiver with the 161 FS.
Other Capita options for what you do. Even though you don’t do any freestyle, the Super DOA could work, so long as you weren’t wanting to ride it in powder – or at least nothing too deep. Great for sidehits. One thing to note with the Super DOA/DOA, is that they come with a structured base – which can be really good and certainly makes them fast, but I found (and have had a few others find the same thing) that that structure makes it really hard to slash turns (and feels rather catchy at slow speeds)- and in trees it’s horrible, IMO. This can be fixed with a base grind. But it probably also depends on conditions – that structure could work well in certain conditions, but just wanted to note it in case you did go for that and then get that feeling and regret getting it. There is a fix, if that was to turn out being an issue. That would certainly be very different to the FS. And I found it a good carver, good at speed and really fun for sidehits and jumps. Great for switch too, though that’s not as big a priority for you. Would be a case of definitely using your FS any time you ride in powder. It’s a mid-stiff flex. The Outsiders is another possibility.
But I think the Kazu could work really well. Again, I would be leaning 157 to give it that bigger differential – and really solidify it being the board of choice for trees and side hits.
Hope this helps with your decision
I did get the 157. Thank you, I will keep it. The super doa does sound good but if there’s powder on the mountain I’m going to try and find it no matter the board. Thank you so much for your insight.
You’re very welcome Max. Hope you enjoy the Kazu
Hey Nate. Looking for a good resort powder board.
Did you get a chance to ride the kazu in 160 and were you able to compare it to the 157?
I tried the 160 last year and felt that flex was too stiff for me in deep snow (knee-waist deep), I pretty much had to go mach 8 to turn it, which was terrifying in the trees.
I couldn’t get the tail to sink and couldn’t flex the board much in those conditions.
I did like how it felt at speed on groomers and mixed condition snow though, as it really punched through crud and made bumpy lines smooth.
For reference, I’m an older rider, but comfortably ride off piste, side country/BC, with the occasional heli trip thrown in.
I’m 5’10, 185, and am wondering if I should size down to the 157 to get what i’m looking for in powder, or if I should just try something else, maybe a bsod in 159.
Thanks 🙂
Hi Jeff
Thanks for your message.
I haven’t ridden the Kazu in 160, so can’t compare them unfortunately. The 157 will feel softer than the 160 but by how much you feel it is hard to say, but it would be noticeable – and as well as feeling softer, shorter boards are easier to maneuver anyway, so you would certainly notice the increase in maneuverability. Overall float wouldn’t be as good because you have less surface area, but maneuverability would certainly be improved.
I found the BSOD as stiff as the Kazu (both felt at 7/10 for me) and found it less maneuverable. That said, it’s one of those boards that feels more maneuverable in powder than it does in firmer terrain. But yeah, in the 159 it’s not going to give you any more maneuverability, IMO and probably actually less, from my experience. The BSOD is a board that prefers to be ridden fast and that’s when it hums. It does like powder but I think you would be better off going 157 Kazu for what you’re describing, over 159 BSOD.
Plenty of other options too and I would be happy to look at some slightly softer flexing options that are still good in powder, if you wanted. Are you open to options outside Capita or just looking at Capita?
Thanks tons, Nate! I’m pretty locked in on 1 of those two now, but am open to other suggestions.
Hi Jeff
Some other potentials, if you wanted to go a little softer, that are still good in powder, but not like powder specialists:
– Capita Navigator
– Bataleon Cruiser
– GNU Hyper
– Jones Mind Expander
– YES Hybrid
– Burton Skeleton Key
Actually this helps. I have the first year hybrid kicking around, and I still like it in pow, but it doesn’t feel terribly damp on groomers at speed. Sidecut is fun though.
Thanks Nate!
Hi Nate, love your review, thanks for posting it up. I am currently debating between the kazu and the Jones Stratos.
I currently have a capita mercury and looking to replace it as an all mountain board. I am looking for a board that’s good for carving on groomers, good in powder and occasional switch. I like doing side hits as well, not much of a park guy.
I am 6 feet 2 (189 cm) and weight about 170 lbs. size 9 boots.
Any suggestions which is better for me, thanks in advance!
Hi Nick
Thanks for your message.
I would be leaning Kazu for what you’re describing. They’re both good for powder and carving and whilst the Stratos is a little more stable at high speed, the Kazu is still decent there – and is better for jumps/sidehits, IMO. It’s also a little better for riding switch. It’s still not great for riding switch – and not as suited to that as the Mercury, but a little better than the Stratos, IMO.
Size-wise for Kazu, I’d say 160 is your best bet, though you could ride the 157 too, if you wanted to err a little shorter. For the Stratos, I’d say 159.
Hope this helps with your decision
Awesome thanks Nate!
You’re very welcome Nick. Hope you have an awesome season!
Hi !
I m looking for a new board. I hesitate between the Capita Kazu and the Lib Tech Ejack.
I look for a fast board, good to carve with, good when there are pow days, and little bit funny. Something handy, not a boat.
The choise are very hard between this two boards. My last board was a gnu dirty pillow and i like it.
Hi Steve
Thanks for your message.
For what you’re describing I don’t think you could go wrong with either. So I don’t think you could make a bad decision. Some things to consider:
– Ejack Knife better in icy conditions, IMO
– Kazu a little better in powder
– Preferred Kazu a little more for jumps
– Preferred the Ejack Knife a little more for riding switch
If you still can’t decide it might be that there’s a size in one or the other that is better suited to you, which could be a tie breaker. Would be happy to give my sizing opinion, would just need your height, weight and boot size.
Hope this helps
Hi, thanks for you answer.
I’m 1,80m – 70kg and 43 shoes
Hi Steve
I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 157. And with 43 shoes, I would go regular width in most cases. Do you know the “mondo” of your boot? or if not the brand. European sizes tend to be different compared to mondo depending on the brand.
But for both I would go 157. The Ejack Knife is a tad narrower – shouldn’t be a problem with a 43, but if you could let me know the brand of boot, that would help.
Hi Nate,
My boots are Nike Kaiju 44… I’dont like Wide Snowboard, actually i have a gnu dirty pillow 159 and i fit great.
Thx
Hi Steve
I definitely get that, I don’t typically like wider boards either. With Nike boots being quite bulky and in the 44 (mondo 28.5), it would be pushing it a little. The Dirty Pillow was a little wider than average from what I know of it (not a board I rode), so I wouldn’t see that being a problem. The Ejack Knife is narrower than that though. And even the Kazu is narrower than that, at the back insert at least. That said, if you’re not like carving super deep or anything or have a really flat back binding angle, then you should be OK. The Kazu a little wider than the Ejack Knife, so would be the slightly safer bet. That said, the Ejack Knife would have the more similar feel to your Dirty Pillow.
Hi Nate, Thanks for the advice. You have certainly helped me before. I’m 5’8 140 pounds And depending on the brand, a size 10 to a size 10.5. I currently wear a 10.5 burton imperials. I’m currently riding a 153 yes hybrid and absolutely love it. I’m really interested in a 154 kazu especially because i want something quicker edge to edge to compliment. I’m an intermediate rider. I mostly resort ride 5 -8 days a year. I’m selling my old jones mt because I never ride switch. Looking for something to ride trees, small jumps and side hits, and something for getting better at steeper resort terrain. I like that the kazu looks like it fits my specs. A little narrower and more nimble and could be a board i could enjoy now but also grow into when i become a stronger rider. Do you think this would be a good choice and does the 154 seem appropriate. I was also looking at a 156 frontier. Like I said, I love my 153 hybrid and feel extremely comfortable on it. I just wasn’t sure if the kazu would be too much board for me. I appreciate any help with the specs I was considering and any other recommendations would be welcome as well. Thanks!!!
Hi Edgar
Thanks for your message.
I think the Kazu could definitely work for what you’re describing. It’s a little bit of a stiffer flex (7/10 by my feel) vs the MT and Hybrid (both of which I felt at around 6/10), so that does add some challenge to it but it’s not a huge step up from something like the Hybrid, so I think it’s a good option.
Size-wise, I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 152 for your height/weight, but with a more freeride oriented board like the Kazu, you can go a little longer. Also, if you’re used to and like the Hybrid in a 153, then the 154 will be fine – they’ll likely feel a similar size overall. The 153 Hybrid has that extra width, which makes it feel bigger than a typical 153, but the Kazu does have more effective edge vs overall length, so that will balance out the width in terms of how big it feels, so probably will feel a similar size or maybe the Kazu marginally smaller.
Width-wise, the Kazu is cutting it tight in terms of the back insert for 10.5s, in the 154. You’re looking at around 260mm at the back insert (assuming a roughly 22″ stance width). Since you’re riding in low profile boots, that certainly helps – but it’s still borderline, if you hvae a flat back binding angle (i.e. 0-6 degrees) and like to carve deep. If you’ve got more angle and don’t carve super deep, then I think you’ll be OK width-wise.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thanks so much for the advice. It definitely helped out. I ended up picking up the board in A 154. I ride my yes hybrid with medium union stratas. Do you think that they would be a suitable option for the kazu as well? What would I lose or gain by sticking with these bindings.
Thanks again!
Hi Edgar
Awesome you have your board – hope it treats you well!
The Strata are a match for the Kazu, IMO, but their the softest I would put on it. Something a little stiffer would be more optimal to drive it a little harder. However, the Strata work – so if you didn’t want to change up your bindings now, you don’t have to. The Medium Strata’s will take up all the width on the back insert – so you will notice that they’ll go pretty much edge to edge, in terms of the footbed, compared with your Hybrid. The M Strata is around 26.2cm in length on the footbed and the back insert (without any angle) is around 26cm on the 154 Kazu. That’s measured on the underside of the board, so if you do use a 0-3 degree back binding angle, then the footbed of the M Strata is likely to overhang the top sheet of the board just a little. I don’t think it would be enough to cause any problems though, particularly because the footbed angles up from the baseplate, which is more like 24.2cm, so even if there is a little overhang, it will be higher up – and the overhang over the actual metal edge on the underside of the board would be minimal – so I don’t think there would be any cause for concern for binding drag or anything. Think you’re pretty safe there. But just so you know to expect that they’ll take up more of the width of the board than what you’re used to with the Hybrid.
What do you think about the rome katana as a single binding for both boards?
Thank you so much again!
Hi Edgar
The Katana would be a good match for both the Kazu and Hybrid, IMO.
Hi Nate! Not sure if my other comment came through. I currently ride a Custom. Most of my riding is really steep, tight, technical lines with drops, trees, hazards. I also ride a lot of steep tight trees in both pow and chopped up/bumped conditions. What I loved about the Custom is the locked in control. Felt super responsive in higher consequence terrain and had that great camber pop which made aggressive high speed turning really fun.
I am looking for a board somewhat similar but better in powder. Kazu sounds great but also considering the Jones Flagship, Capita Mercury, Yes Pick your line, Burton Flight Attendant.
Any thoughts on the above options?
Also if I went with Kazu, would you suggest 154 or 157? I am 5’9″, 150lb and 8.5 boot. Thanks!
Hi Nick
Thanks for your messages.
I think the Kazu could definitely work for what you’re describing. The other options there would certainly work too, with the Mercury not being as good in powder. The Flight Attendant would likely feel the closest to the Custom, but with better powder. The most similar to the Custom though, I would say, would be the Territory Manager – but again better than the Custom in powder – so that’s something else to consider.
If you do go Kazu, I’d look at the 154. I think it’s the best match to your specs. That said, as an expert ride with a lot of riding under their belt, by the sounds of it, you may be used to a certain size which would influence your choice here. E.g. if you’ve been riding the 158 Custom and previously had boards more around that size, then that could sway it more to the 157, assuming you’ve liked that size. But if you’re on the 154 or 156 Custom, then I’d go 154 Kazu.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thanks Nate, super helpful. The Territory Manager wasn’t on my radar.
Looked into it a bit and seems like it could be a good fit but had a few questions compared to Kazu.
Which board would you say would have more chatter on uneven riding?
Which board carves harder/has more spring out of its turns?
Which board would you feel more stable landing in powder (30-40 foot drops typically).
Some reviews fit the Territory manager to a bit more of an upper intermediate rider rather than an expert but didn’t know if you felt that was true or not.
I was riding a 156 custom so agree the 154 makes sense (probably the case for both boards no?)
Thanks so much Nate!
Hey Nick
If I had to say, I’d say the Kazu feels a little more chatter than the Territory Manager but not much in it. I think part of the reason for that is probably because of how light the Kazu is. However, even if it does feel slightly more chatter, it still does well at holding it’s line in crud/chunder and doesn’t get bucked around too easily.
For carving/spring out of turns, again really hard to say, they’re close. If I had to make a call, I’d probably say Kazu, but again, very little in it.
For landing in powder, I’d go Kazu. But the Territory manager not going to be bad for it.
I find labelling a board for ability, unless it’s labelling it for less ability, is a bit of a redundant exercise. Some expert riders like a softer flexing board and want to be able to ride playfully and technically through tight spots etc – and maybe they can bomb too, but prefer not to most of the time, so might get a board that’s not considered “expert” because it doesn’t suit their style. So I find that question difficult to answer. In terms of riding it hard/fast/deep carves etc, the Territory Manager is good (as good as the Kazu) – there are boards that are better – but usually those that are better for really bombing tend to lack in the trees etc. So it really depends on how you’re wanting to ride it, IMO.
Hey Nate, love your website, picked my current board, 151 yes greats with union strata bindings based on your reviews. Thinking of getting a second board more suited for powder / freeride but I still want to be able to go in trees. Intermediate rider, 150-160 lbs, 5’8, size 8 boots. What would be the best size for the Kazu? 151 or 154 is where I’m stuck between.
Hi Steve
Thanks for your message.
I don’t think the 151 would be wrong, but I would be leaning 154 for you, in this case. Given that it’s going to be your powder board, going a bit bigger will give you more float – but the 154 shouldn’t feel so big that it’s cumbersome in the trees or anything. Also, the 151 would feel noticeably smaller than your Greats 151, IMO. The 154 is a closer equivalent size.
Hope this helps with your decision
Definitely does, 154 is the way. Would the Stratas be fine on the kazu or should i look for something stiffer? I think strata come in as a 6 on stiffness. Using 2022 burton photons.
Hi Steve
I think if you were being fussy, then something stiffer for bindings. However, the Strata will do the job well, IMO. Not quite as optimal as a stiffer binding, potentially, but are still a match, IMO.
Thanks for the responses. Two final questions, are there any other boards you would recommend for freeride / powder that would be good for me? My main concern about alot of boards is that they are pretty wide for my small feet. And lastly, how can we support your work in anyway?
Hi Steve
You could also look at something like the Navigator – the 151 comes with a 245mm waist width – it would be overall smaller than the 154 Kazu we were looking at though.
Or the Jones Flagship. The 151 comes with a 243mm waist and the 154 with a 246mm waist.
Or the Lib Tech BRD 153 (245mm waist). This would be the narrowest overall, I would say.
On these options the width at inserts would be around (I’ve included the same for the Kazu, for reference):
Navigator 151: 256mm at front insert, 254mm at back insert
Flagship 151: 260mm at front insert, 255mm at back insert
Flagship 154: 263mm at front insert, 258mm at back insert
BRD 153: 256mm front insert, 250mm back insert
Kazu 151: 261mm front, 258mm back
Kazu 154: 263mm front, 260mm back
Greats 151: 269mm both inserts
Note that this is assuming a 22″ (560mm) stance width. With a wider stance these figures would be bigger (i.e. wider and with a narrower stance they would be smaller (i.e. narrower).
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Hey Nate!
Thanks for this review!
I have been riding a Custom for the last 3 seasons and looking to get a new board. Im an expert rider (30+ days per season) spend most of my time in the BC area. Most of my riding is really steep, tight, technical lines with drops, trees, hazards. I also ride a lot of steep tight trees in both pow and chopped up/bumped conditions.
What I loved about the Custom is the locked in control. Felt super responsive in higher consequence terrain and had that great camber pop which made aggressive high speed turning really fun.
I am looking for a board somewhat similar but better in powder. I actually like how a custom charges through powder as I prefer that feeling over something that stays on top (surfy), but it nosedived too often and I think I need something a step up.
This seems like a good fit but I have also looked at the following:
Jones Flagship
Capita Mercury
Yes Pick your line
Burton Flight Attendant
Curious if you think Kazu would be a good option and if so, what size for me? I am 150lb and 5.9″ with a 8.5 boot
Thanks so much!
Hey Nate, Your reviews and comparisons are awesome! I know you have given advice to multiple people regarding sizing the Kazu, but can I ask the same. I’m 5’8″, 70-72kg and use US size 9 boots. I have the Mercury in a 155 and it’s perfect (also love it). I am probably inbetwen the Kazu 154 and 157. Most of my boards have been 154/155. I presume the Capita recommended weight range for this board relates to the ‘effective’ board length excluding the nose beyond the front contact point. I would probably be riding it in every thing except the park. What size do you think?
Also, I saw a youtube review which stated that the Kazu was similar to the Burton Deepthinker. What are your thoughts of the comparison?
Cheers.
Hi Roger
Thanks for your message.
I would put your “standard length” at around 155/156. So you really are right in the middle of the 154 and 157. If it was going to be the only board in your quiver, I would probably be leaning to the 154. But given that you’ve got the Mercury, and I would presume you’d be using the Kazu for powder days, then I’d probably err to the 157 as part of your quiver, to get better powder float and stability at speed. That said, if you do like to ride a lot of trees and be doing freestyle stuff outside the park on it (butters, sidehits, etc), then I’d still go 154. If you’re riding, at least when you’re riding this board, is going to be more focused on deeper powder, higher speeds and bigger carves, then I’d go 157.
The Deep Thinker is an interesting one. On paper the 2023 version didn’t change from previous versions, but from what I hear it’s changed quite a bit and is now a bit softer, more playful. I certainly noticed it with the Free Thinker (the Deep Thinker’s freestyle partner in crime) 2023 model but I didn’t retest the 2023 Deep Thinker, so I can’t say for sure from experience. Not sure if the comparison you saw was for the 2023 model or earlier models. For earlier models, I would say that the Deep Thinker is the same type of board for sure, but certainly not the same.
I found it a little stiffer (8/10 flex) – though that sounds like it’s changed, so the new model may well be similar flex to the Kazu. I found the Deep Thinker a little more locked in than the Kazu, and overall more difficult to manage at slower speeds, in trees etc, but better for a big high speed carves. Again, if what I’ve read about the 2023 model is true, the new Deep Thinker may well be easier for slower speed turning and less locked in than it used to be. I also preferred the Kazu on jumps, but again, the new Deep Thinker might be better there as well.
Hope this helps
Thanks Nate. Great advice.
I’m kind of leaning toward the Kazu 154.
Re: Deep Thinker. I’ve ridden a 2019 DT 154 a few times in the past. I agree, it was definitely stiffer than ‘advertised’ – I didn’t mind that, but it was a bit catchy unexpectedly at times and definitely at slow speed. I was thinking the Kazu might be a bit more nimble and not so catchy. I guess I’m looking for some thing a bit like the Mercury, yet different i.e. more directional a a bit more floaty.
You’re very welcome Roger
Yeah, in my experience the Kazu is more nimble and less catchy than the Deep Thinker (at least prior to the 2023 Deep Thinker).
Thanks again Nate
Thanks so much Nate.
Sorry, but I’m going to ask another comparison question. How would you see the Kazu stacking up against the 2023 Jones Mind expander. I know the Mind Expander is a bit less aggressive, but how do they compare in terms of versatility and, in your opinion, fun factor?
Cheers.
Hey Nate, last comparison question: Jones Stratos vs Kazu Pro?
Hi Roger
Vs the Mind Expander:
– Mind Expander certainly a bit less aggressive, softer flexing. Even more so, in terms of playfulness, if you’re looking at 2022 or earlier models. The 2023 models got some camber in the profile, with the 2022 and earlier models being fully rockered boards.
– Both pretty versatile, being good across most factors, without being great at riding switch. The Mind Expander not quite as good at speed, carving or jumps vs the Kazu, but 2023 better there than it was in it’s previous iterations. In terms of fun factor, both boards are fun, but the Mind Expander you don’t have to work quite as hard. Kazu not something that you have work extremely hard to get the best out of it, certainly not compared to some stiffer more aggressive options, but Mind Expander is fairly effortless, a little more so than the Kazu.
Vs Stratos:
– Stratos, in my experience, is a little stiffer and heavier feeling vs the Kazu. You’ve got to work it a little harder compared to the Kazu, in my experience. Gives you a bit more in terms of stability at speed, but not as good at slower speeds as the the Kazu, IMO. Not as easy to turn/slash or take in trees or that kind of thing. Not quite as versatile overall, IMO. Fun for charging, carving and in powder, but you’ve got to put in the energy to get it out. More effort required, can’t be as casual on it. Not as fun for slower speeds or in trees etc.
Hey Nate,
I did get the Kazu Pro in the 154. One word: Epic!
I Like it much more than the Mercury,
Thanks again for your help.
Hi Roger
Thanks for the update. Awesome to hear that you and the Kazu are gelling! Enjoy
Hey Nate,
Thanks for everything you do! Awesome reviews and personal recommendations. A while back, you helped me pick an 18-19 164w Jones Mountain Twin, and it has been an incredible board for me. Honestly, my only knock is it never seemed to glide through the flats quite as well as some of my buddies boards even after a fresh wax.
I’m looking to get a new board this season, and I was pretty set on the Kazu. By far, my favorite thing to do while riding is tree runs, hitting natural features, and finding as much powder as possible. But I need a board that can also handle the hard pack days and bombing some groomer runs. I also still like to ride some switch, throw butters, etc. This board really seemed to fit the bill and looked incredible.
However, my main concern with the kazu is heel/toe drag. I’m 220lbs, 6’6″, and wear a size 11.5 in Adidas Acerra ADVs, and I generally ride in a duck stance at +12 / -12. Is this doable or am I better off looking elsewhere?
The other boards I’m seriously considering are the Jones UMT 162w, Yes Standard Uninc 162, and Capita Mercury 160w. My understanding is the Jones UMT is softer than it was in 18-19 plus the new 3d contour base and shorter length would help keep it maneuverable in the trees. However, the ride might be so similar to my Jones MT (which I’m selling) that it might not be worth the price increase.
Any help or guidance here would greatly appreciated! Happy to check out any other recommendations you might have
Hi Michael
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, unfortunately I think the Kazu will be too narrow. Given that you have the Acerra and a good amount of angle helps, but that back insert on the 160 is still only going to be around 264mm and with 11.5s it’s pushing it. There’s a chance you’d be OK, but it would be risky, IMO.
I think the most suitable option for what you’re describing would be the UMT 162W, but I get your concern that you might feel like you’re not getting a board that different to your current board. Even though the UMT has mellowed up a bit, it’s still a more aggressive and stiffer ride than the 18/19 MT (which is also a bit more mellow now). So you wouldn’t be getting the same board. In terms of glide, you will likely notice an increase there too as the UMT has Jones’ Sintered 9900 base, which I’ve always had a really good glide experience on. That said, I have always found their sintered 8000 bases to have decent glide as well, but I think the 18/19 had their sintered 7000, which I also found pretty decent. But there’s definitely a difference with their 9900 base. And yeah certainly more maneuverable in trees now than the older UMT models, with that 3D contour base and sizing down a little would help counteract the extra stiffness as well.
I think you’d really like the Standard Uninc and it would give you everything you’d want except you’d be taking a hit on powder performance vs the UMT and versus your current board. If you’re happy for middle of the road powder performance, then I think it’s a good option. Though, one thing to note is that I didn’t find its base had as good a glide as Jones’ higher end bases.
The Mercury also ticks most boxes. My biggest concern there, and only concern really, is that I don’t find it super maneuverable in trees. When there’s powder in trees, I found it was good, but without powder, it wasn’t the quickest turner. Not a tank by any means, but given that’s a big part of your riding, that would be my biggest concern there.
Some other options include:
– Jones Mind Expander – just make sure to get it in the 2023 model – the previous models were all-rocker and it was more of a powder specialist. The new model is a better all-round ride. Biggest downside for you, IMO would be it’s switch riding
– Capita Navigator – again switch being the biggest downside
Some other options to get better switch riding, I would look at:
>>My Top 10 All Mountain Snowboards
Which has recently been update for the 22/23 season. Just make sure to look at the score breakdowns to make sure you find something that will fit what you’re looking for.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I am 5’7 and 150lbs, currently ride an Outerspace Living. My skills amped quite noticeably this season and was thinking to get a Kazu as a second board. Do you think this is a good complement to the Outerspace Living, or it would be more of an overlap?
Also, should I consider the 151 or 154cm length for the Kazu?
Ryan
Hi Ryan
Thanks for your message.
The OSL and Kazu are quite different boards, so there’s not too much overlap there, IMO. They can work in a quiver and are complimentary to one another, IMO.
If you could let me know your boot size, that would help with sizing the Kazu, but it’s definitely between the 151 and 154. If you could also let me know the size of your OSL. Depending on that size, might lean one way or another on what to go with for the Kazu, to be the best compliment in the quiver. But boot size is also a very important consideration.
Hi Nate,
Thanks for the amazing prompt response! My boot size is US8.5 Wide, and my OSL is 152.
Does the Kazu complement the the OSL mainly for powder days?
Ryan
Hi Ryan
I would probably go 151 with your boot size. The OSL 152 is quite narrow – and a good width for your boots. The Kazu in the 151 is wider, so you’re still looking at more surface area overall. In addition, the Kazu has more effective edge per overall length, so you’d actually be adding just over 2cm of effective edge on the 151 Kazu versus the 152 OSL. All that said, the 154 is doable. I would put you on roughly a 154 as your “standard all-mountain” size. The reason I would be leaning 151 is because of width and effective edge, but 154 still doable – on the bigger side, but if you were going to use it mostly as your powder board, then that size could certainly work as part of your quiver. If you were going to use it as a one-board quiver, I’d say 151 for sure – but as part of a multi board quiver the 154 is certainly doable.
Powder is one thing that the Kazu is better for, but it’s also better for carving and more stable at speed versus the OSL – so not just a powder day board – but it would be the board I’d take out on a powder day, if I had those 2 in my quiver, for sure. The OSL is a little easier of a ride and is better for riding, taking off and landing switch. It’s also easier for butters/presses and jibs.
Hi,
You give great good advices. I bought a capita doa and vans infuse based on your advice and they are perfect.
Now i want to buy a kazu kokubo or bataleon party wave.
My size is 168cm i weight arround 69kg and my shoes size is 8US in vans infuse.
What do you recommend between the two capita kazu and bataleon party wave and what sizes?
I was thinking 151 capita and 144 bataleon.
And which of the two? 🙂
What do you think?
Thank you,
Alex
Hi Alex
Thanks for your message.
For the Kazu, I would go 151 for sure.
I haven’t ridden the Bataleon Party Wave, so not sure about that one, but given the width on it, I think the 145 would be your best bet.
Between the two it’s hard to say which would be better given that I haven’t ridden the Party Wave. I’m assuming your purpose is to add a board to your quiver that would be for powder and off groomer stuff, to compliment your DOA?
The Party Wave looks pretty soft flexing based on the specs, but certainly designed for powder by the looks of it. I would say more powder specialized than the Kazu. Kazu good for powder, but also good on groomers. And you’re talking around 7/10 flex (a little stiffer than DOA) on the Kazu versus 4/10 flex (assuming the ratings are comparable) on the Party Wave – and you’re looking at a short/wide and more powder specialized option (IMO) in the party wave.
Hi again,
Yes i am looking for a quiver to compliment the DOA and be good in powder.
I was thinking also at party wave + but they only have 148 and in my opinion is to wide for me. My DOA is a 150 and some times i feel is too norrow.
Hi Alex
Yeah, I mean it’s supposed to be wide, but yeah, I think for that width you’d be better sizing down to the 145 (which they don’t have for the Party Wave+ by the looks). 148 is doable, but for your specs, I’d be looking to size down that extra bit. If it was between the Party Wave+ 148 and Kazu 151, I’d go Kazu 151. But the boards are quite different (from what I can tell) – even the + version looks like it’s softer than the Kazu – and the Party Wave is volume shifted.
Thank you beey much, you are great and you always give advices fast and good.
Already ordered kazu 151 and union atlas 2022 to replace my 2018 atlas.
Thank you and keep up the goot work 👍
You’re very welcome Alexandru. Happy riding!
Hi Nate!
Thanks for the great review!
A week ago my friend mentioned this board and since I was looking for my Ride Machete 162 replacement I decided to have a look at it and was charmed by its specs and reviews.
I’m 176 cm height, 75 kg (165 lbs) at the moment, 8US boots, currently Adidas Acerra 3st Adv. Yes, I know that my current board it too long for me, but I got used to it.
I mostly ride groomers at speed and off piste in trees. Sometime when I get a chance I travel to more powder-rich places, for cat skiing etc. Also I want to start doing at least some backcountry. But most of the time groomers and trees around (so one day it can be a lot of powder there, another – just packed snow after previous riders). I don’t feel I want few boards at the moment so am looking for one more or less universal board, and seems that Kazu fits the best.
So I ordered this board yesterday (157cm length) but still have some doubts about sizing. Specs are saying that recommended weight for 154cm – 43-72kg, so I ordered 157.
I’m going to ride it together with Union Atlas (which I also use currently and just ordered new ones).
Do you think I made a good choice in terms of the board itself, its size and bindings?
Their a lot it advance!
Hi Vladimir
Thanks for your message.
For how you describe your riding, I think the Kazu is a great choice.
In terms of sizing, I think you’ve made the right choice with the 157. I’d put you on around 157/158 for an all-mountain size. You can go a little longer for freeriding, but if that includes a fair amount of trees, then I wouldn’t go longer than that all-mountain size. There’s an argument you could go down to the 154, because of your boot size. Often sizing down for a board that’s a bit wide for your boots makes sense. However, in your case, I wouldn’t go to the 154, since you’re used to riding a 162. I also think it’s worth going shorter than what you’re currently on. Even though you’re used to the 162 now, I think it’s worth adjusting to that shorter size, that’s more inline with your specs. 160 would be going too big, IMO, even though your used to a 162. After a bit of an adjustment period, I think you’ll really like the Kazu in the 157 length.
The Atlas are a good match to the Kazu, IMO, so all good to stick with those, IMO.
Hope this helps
Thank you for such detailed answer, this really helps a lot! Looking forward to ride on the new Kazu 🙂
You’re very welcome Vladimir. Happy riding!
Hey,
currently looking at a Kazu Pro 2020/2021. Can’t decide which size. I am around 190lbs and my height is 5.11. I want the board as my main powder board. Guess the 160 would be fine for me but I prefer smaller boards so I am thinking about the 157. But scared it will not work for me in deep pow. Any suggestions?
Thx, Bernhard
Hi Bernhard
Thanks for your message.
I felt the 157 floated really well for me. Though in saying that, I didn’t have anything super deep to test in. And also I was 175lbs at the time of riding, so you’ve got a little bit of extra weight on it. 160 would certainly give better float, of course. I think it’s going to depend if you’re mainly going to be in open terrain powder or if you’re mainly going to be riding in trees on powder days. If in trees, I would probably err to the shorter option. If open terrain powder, then I would probably go 160.
If you could also let me know your boot size, just to confirm overall sizing suitability.
Hi, it depends… I prefer open terrain but here in my area there are more tree runs. So I guess 70% trees, 30% open terrain. My boot size is 10.
Thanks,
Bernhard
Hi Bernhard
Given you would be in trees more often, I would be leaning 157. 160 certainly isn’t wrong though and it would give you easier float for sure, and I think you’d appreciate when you were in that open terrain powder. 160 wouldn’t be too wide for 10s – particularly when you’re in powder, that width isn’t as noticeable (if it’s a little wide for you), but the width on the 157 is fine too, for 10s. Even though I don’t think the 160 would be a wrong choice, I would be leaning 157 – predominantly because of the 70% trees, but also because you mentioned previously that you prefer to err shorter.
Hey Nate, Im having a tough time deciding between the Kazu pro and the Yes Typo for this year as my daily all mountain driver. Im an intermediate/advanced level rider who prefers a nimble ride thats really quick edge to edge and good for short sharp/snappy turns. I spent the last two seasons riding the Custom flying V and Lib Orca, with the custom being my daily driver. I loved the turn initiation and response of the custom, but the edge hold wasn’t the best and it felt a little squirrely at high speeds. The orca on the other hand had great edge hold and felt a lot more stable at speeds, but really wasn’t as nimble and maneuverable as I’d want it to be. I’m looking for something that can sort of blend what I love about both of those boards into one, and have narrowed it down to the 155 Typo and 154 Kazu. I’m 5’10 180lbs and wear a size 10 burton Ion… Which board would you recommend for me?
Hi Tony
Thanks for your message.
In terms of purely for short sharp turns, the Typo would have it over the Kazu. Just a little easier to whip it around and part of that is being a softer flex. But it’s also not as good at high speeds. Both the Kazu and Typo are going to be more nimble than the Orca, in my experience. And the Kazu is actually quite nimble, particularly for it’s flex – and it has that nice balance of being stable at higher speeds, but still quite nimble at slower speeds (I found). Going with the 154 will mean it’s a little less stable at high speeds than I experienced it, but also more nimble than I experienced it (we have similar specs – 6’0″, 175lbs, size 10).
So if you really wanted to get out and out quickness in your turns, the Typo would be king there, but not going to get much better in terms of speed. It is going to be considerably better edge hold wise though. It’s much better in hard/icy conditions, IMO, than the Custom Flying V. But just may not get the kind of stability at speed you’d be seeking.
The Kazu, particularly in the 154 won’t be far off in terms of nimbleness, I would say, but would be more stable at high speeds. So I think that’s probably the better balance. Also kind of depends on what else you’re doing with your riding. E.g. the Typo is really easy to butter and easy for riding switch, so if those were things you were doing a lot, then there are some pluses there for the Typo over the Kazu. And if you’re in powder a bit, then going Kazu would give you an advantage over the Kazu (though if you were going to be keeping the Orca, you could use that for powder). But yeah, for the one board quiver, for what you’re describing, I would be leaning Kazu, but if you think you’d appreciate the extra little bit of agility from the Typo at the cost of stability at speed, then the Typo would certainly work too.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
Thanks for the response! I think I may end up going Typo just because of how much I really appreciate that type of agility in a board. Either way I’m thinking of trying out new bindings this year as well. I’ve ridden burton malivitas for the past 5 or 6 years, but might try out the Union Atlas or strata, or even the jones mercury. Any insight on which would be best on the typo?
Hi Tony
I would go Strata from those options on the Typo. Mostly because I think they’re the best flex match. The Atlas and Mercury are getting on the stiff side for that board, IMO. Also I really like the Strata – the best board feel of those 3, but at the same time quite damp (though not as damp as the Mercury, which, like most NOW and Jones bindings, are super damp) – and just a great response but also something that rides slow well, in my experience. So yeah, I’d be looking at the Strata.
Hi Nate,
Thanks for the insightful and detailed review. I think I’m going to give the Kazu 160 a try. I have size 11 ions and large Falcors. Stance is 22.5 +21/-9. do you think I can get away with the the 257 and still lean it over? mostly will be my Slackcountry board. Thanks for your response!
Oh and I’m 5’11 170-175
Hi Spencer
Thanks for your message.
It’s close. My biggest concern is that back insert. It’s going to be around 264mm at the back insert on the 160 (assuming a roughly 22″ stance width). The front insert will be around 267mm – and with that 21 degree angle, I don’t think you’ll have too many issues there with Burton Ions. But with 11s, I’d say, if you’re going to be carving fairly deep on it, with 11s, even low profile boots like the Ions, that you’d want around 270mm at the inserts, with an angle like 9 degrees. I think you get away with going a little narrower on your front foot because of that angle, but on that back foot, I think it’s a bit narrow.
Hope this helps
Thanks for your response and the Tech Nate!! I decided to go with the Kazu and hopefully i can make it work with the adjustable falcor heal cup. I let you know how it goes.
all the best
Spencer
You’re very welcome Spencer. Hope it works for you and look forward to hearing how you get on.
Hey Nate, I am planning to purchase a secondhand kazu 157 from offerup but I’m not sure if it would fit me right. I am 5’8″ and 170lbs. I wear a size 9 boot.
I’ve been riding for a few years now but have only been using rentals or friends’ boards and I finally think it’s about time that I get my own. I am looking for a board that is all mountain and I’m hoping this board is right for me. If you have any advice on bindings that would be helpful as well.
Cheers!
Hi Drey
Thanks for your message.
It could be right depending on a few things. The Kazu Kokubo is a board that you want to be a solid intermediate rider. You’ll want to have good technique and have a fair bit of experience. It’s hard to say how much riding you’ve had – as some might ride 100+ days a year and some only 1-2, but yeah, a higher-end intermediate level with solid technique.
In terms of how you like to ride, this is what I would term a freeride board. For a freeride board, it’s really good for jumps and relatively versatile, but it’s still quite directional, so it’s not something that’s easy for riding switch. And it’s not easy to butter/press of jib with. If you’re not really into buttering or switch/spins, then I think this could work for you, so long as you’ve got a solid technique behind you.
Size-wise, for the Kazu, for your specs, it’s a debate between the 154 and 157. I would say 157 for sure, if it was a little narrower, or if you had size 10 boots. 154 is doable for you because of your boot size. But I think 157 works, even with 9’s, but it’s going to depend a little on how you want to ride it. If you want to make sure you’ve got good stability at speed and want to do some big carves and that kind of thing as your main stay, then I’d say 157 – even if you want to do a little bit of tree riding and slowing it down, side hits etc. But if your style is more geared towards doing lots of trees, sidehits and you don’t really bomb that much, then I’d be leaning more 154 for you. Also kind of depends on the size of the mountain you ride the most. If it’s a smaller resort, then I would err shorter. If it’s a bigger resort, with lots of opportunities to open out, then I would err longer.
Sizing can be very personal as you can see!
Hope this helps
Hey Nate, I just bought the Kazu 157 online but I’m worried it might be a bit too big for me. I’m pairing it with Union Falcor M’s and Vans Infuse size 9 boot.
I’m 5’9 150lbs. And have been riding for a out 15 years. I love riding steep and deep but want something I can take in the trees and still hit the groomers when it gets Chowdary.
Do you think I should size down to the 154 before taking it out for a spin??
Thanks dude
Hi Sean
Thanks for your message.
As per my previous response, I think the 154 is the best size for your specs. I would personally go 154, if I had your specs. The Falcor and Infuse are, IMO, are a very good match to the Kazu and I think you’ll really enjoy that setup overall, but I would go 154 for the board, if it was me.
Hey Nate, not sure where my comment went. I’m a boot size 8, so top end of small bindings and the low end of medium bindings. Just started riding this season but have been progressing pretty well to blacks and moderate trees. Planning to keep my current Arbor Element rocker (154), so looking for something to compliment it. Thinking maybe use the Element as a powder board and then have the Kazu to take tree riding to the next level? Also wanting to get to carving. Planning to pair this board with either Burton Malavitas or Union Stratas.
Hi Tad
Got your other message (all messages are moderated before being published – I usually moderate them as I reply). I deleted that one as this one has the bindings info too.
I would go 151 for the Kazu. A couple of reasons.
a. it’s better suited to your boot size. Even the 151 is slightly wide for your boots, but sizing to 151 will help with maneuverability.
b. Speaking of maneuverability, the 151 is going to go better in the trees and since that’s a focus for you, I think it’s the better bet
c. The Kazu in the 151 is still going to be better for carving than the 153 Element Rocker – it’s just better suited to carving. And also the effective edge on the 151 Kazu is almost 3cm longer than on the 153 Element Rocker. So you’re still getting more effective edge, even with the shorter size
For bindings, I would go Strata on this board. Just because the Strata’s are a bit more responsive than the Malavita, in my experience, and the Kazu goes better with more responsive bindings, being a little on the stiffer side.
Thanks man! In regards to bindings, would the Cartels be more appropriate to compare with the Stratas? Any other bindings you would recommend to pair with the board?
Hi Tad
Yeah Cartel would be a more appropriate comparison to the Strata, IMO. I think the Cartel X would be an even better match for this board. And from Union, you could also look at the Falcor.
Thanks for your input Nate! Cheers!
You’re very welcome Tad. Happy riding!
Hi Nate!
Thanks a lot for the great reviews and your expertise.
I’m looking for a versatile board combining the following qualities:
– Floating in pow
– Stability at high speeds
– Ease of turning
Is Kazu Kokubo the best choice?
I’m advanced rider 174 cm, 76kg, US9 boots size
HI Kirill
Thanks for your message.
I think the Kazu strikes a nice balance between all those things – so I think it’s a good choice for what you’re describing.
Size-wise, it’s a tight call between the 154 and 157, but I would go 157. You could ride both, but I think that’s the best size for your specs and what you want out of the board.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hey Nate,
I’m looking into grabbing the Kazi because the BSOD from Capita is sold out in 156(I can only find it in 159)
I’m around 5’8 – 5’9 and weigh 150 lbs with a boot size of 8.5
What size do you think I should get for the KAZU KOKUBO PRO. Also do you think I would fit a 159 in BSOD? I’ve ridden the 156 the last 4 years
Thanks dude!
Hi Sean
Thanks for your message.
For the Kazu I would go 154 for you. IMO the 159 BSOD is too big for you. Even just on length it’s too long, IMO, but add to that being wide for your boots, it’s overall a good bit too big, if you ask me.
Hope this helps
Hi! I’m looking to get this but not sure the right size for me. I’m 5’7 and light weight 135lb, size US 8. Is the 151 the best option for me?
Hi Steve
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, 151 for your specs, for sure, IMO. I think that would be a good size. Anything longer too big, IMO.
Hope this helps
Thanks! your info/advices here on this site are really helpful. Learnt a lot from you.
You’re very welcome Steve. Thanks for visiting. Happy riding!
Hey man, I’m the same height as Steve, but about 142lbs. Been riding a 153 Arbor Element rocker as my first board. Should I go with a 151 or 154?
Hi Tad
It’s a close call between the two. And which one is better, IMO, is going to depend on your boot size. And also how you want to ride the board and your ability level. Are you wanting to ride fast a lot, hit powder a lot? Ride trees? If you can describe how you’ll be riding this board mostly, your rough ability level, and your boot size, that will help to decide between the two sizes.
I’m looking into picking up this board for riding in powder and trees and i wanted to know what size I should get. I have a 10 1/2 boot and weight 172lb. My last board was a 2017 Ride Manic, and i want something more maneuverable, so im leaning towards 154. Would this work?
Hi Noah
Thanks for your message.
If you’re riding a lot of trees it could work for sure. Will certainly be more maneuverable in the 154, but also won’t float as well in powder in the smaller size so there’s that trade off.
If you could also let me know your height (weight and foot/boot size are more important factors, but I still like to take height into account as well) – and also the size of your Manic, that would also help.
Width-wise on the 154, with 10.5 boots, it’s pushing it a little. It’s on the narrower side for that boot size. If you’re really leaning into carves and have not much angle on your back foot (e.g. 0 degrees, 3 degrees etc) and/or don’t have low profile boots, then it might be pushing it width-wise. It’s doable under certain scenarios, but under others it would be more risky. If you could let me know your typical binding angles and the make/model (and year if you know) of your boots) and how hard you like to lean into carves, that would help too.
Picked this up the other day, love the top sheet (and base of course) but the top sheet is awesome up close. Kazu atlas Bindings look sick with it. Can’t wait to ride it. Only 7 months ha!
Hey Tim
Awesome that you got the board now! Yeah, I love the graphic on this board too.
I would say come to the Northern Hemisphere so you can get on it now – but travel is pretty hard these days!
Hey Nate,
Currently on a NS West. Looking for something that can offer me a different feel and shape. I would say I’m an advanced rider. I spend most of my time in sidecountry, some groomers, and trees. Not a lot of park but would like to be able to hit jumps and side hits. I’m in Seattle so mostly on cascade concrete, some heavy powder days.
Do you think the kazu pro would fit my needs or do you have any other recommendations? Size recommendations would also be helpful too. I’m 5’8″, 150, size 8.5 boot. Thanks for your help.
Hi Chris
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, I think the Kazu would fit what you’re describing really well. This is one of the better freeride boards for jumps, IMO, and it’s got you covered in sidecountry and trees for sure – and still really good on groomers.
Size-wise, I think it’s a debate between the 154 and 151. I think 154 is the pure size length-wise for your specs, but the 151 would offer some advantages, particularly with 8.5 boots. I would say the 154 is on the wider end of the range for 8.5s. It’s certainly not massively wide or out of range, IMO, but it’s at the wider end of that range – as is the 151. Sizing down to the 151 would give you some pros and cons, i.e:
– 151 would give you more maneuverability in tight spaces at slower speeds (like in technical trees)
– But it wouldn’t float as well in powder and will be less stable at speed
I think I would be leaning towards the 154 for you, but the 151 is an option – and I think it depends on what you want to maximize between maneuverability or float/speed.
Hope this helps
Thanks Nate! Super helpful, will be keeping and eye out for a 154 then.
You’re very welcome Chris. Happy riding!
Hi Nate
I was wondering if I can get your thoughts on some boards I’m struggling to decide between, I’m 5′ 10″, 160lb, boots size 9-9.5. The boards I’m looking at are Capita Kazu, Arbor Bryan Iguchi pro camber, Burton flightier attendant, Lib tech BRD C3. I ride a little bit of backcountry, mostly sidecountry to groomers, pow, trees, some jumps no jibs and I like a decent amount of speed. Do you have any insight in comparing these boards and any suggestions?
Hi Bryce
Thanks for your message.
I haven’t ridden the Lib Tech BRD, but I’d say it would be suitable for what you’re describing, but give any more than that on that one.
For carving and speed, I would say Flight Attendant (FA) over the Kazu and Iguchi Pro Camber. For powder Kazu and FA over the Iguchi. For uneven Terrain, I’d take the Kazu over the other 2. For jumps, Kazu over the other 2 as well. Kazu for trees for me too. I think based on what you’re describing, I would be leaning Kazu out of those 3. The other 2 would certainly be suitable for what you’re describing, but I’d be leaning Kazu.
Size-wise, I would go 157 for Kazu, 156 for FA and 156 for Iguchi, for you. Unless you have strong preferences for riding shorter or longer than that. Got to take preferences into account, but purely based on specs and riding style, those are the sizes I would be looking at for you.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi nate , I recently purchased some of the atlas Kazu pros and an now considering the board to go with them. 157 would be my size.
262 at front insert is that the first holes or at the reference point? it’s 265 back foot insert? Just checking as usually it’s wider on the front inserts when there’s taper? Sorry I’m just trying to weigh up if it’s worth getting being wide enough. Which I think it is.
Cheers
Tim
Hi Tim
Thanks for the message – and for pointing out my mistake! I had those inserts figures reversed. You’re correct that typically with taper the back insert is narrower. Unless there’s a really big setback, and then the back insert can sometimes be wider or the same, even on a tapered board. But the Kazu only has a moderate setback, so you were right to question that. And I just double checked my notes and 262mm was definitely the back insert and 265mm the front insert. I will correct on the review now. And those measurements are taken at reference stance.
Width-wise, I think you should be alright with 262mm on the back insert with 10.5 Tactical ADVs. With longer profile 10.5s, it could be pushing it, depending on bindings angles and riding style, but I think you’ll be fine in the Tactical ADVs.
Hey Nate, awesome review! I am just over 5”10 and 168 lbs, I am curious on which size would be best suited to me?
Thanks
Hi Mitchell
Thanks for your message.
It’s a tight call between the 154 and 157. If you could let me know your boot size, that would really help.
Hi Nate,
So I’ve been looking into getting a board and I am more of an All-Mountain rider but Kazu really caught my eye. I know your review is from a Freeride standpoint but how does it hold up as an All-Mountain board? The reason I ask is the board really sticks out to me but I don’t ride in crazy powder conditions. Thanks for your time.
Hi Denis
Thanks for your message.
Stands up really well as an all-mountain board, IMO. It’s a good ride on groomers and still good for jumps. The biggest thing is whether you like to ride switch much or not. It’s not something that you can’t ride switch, but it’s less suitable for riding switch than all-mountain boards – and it’s not great of butters, or setting up/landing switch for spins, that kind of thing. If those things aren’t something you’re that worried about, then it would work well as a daily driver, all-mountain board, IMO.
Hope this helps
I’m 5’9” , 175lbs with a size 9 boot size. Would you recommend the 154 or the 157? Also I’m thinking about the union Force bindings with this board. Would love to get your opinion on the size and binding recommendations. Thank you!
Hi Denis
I’ve ridden the Kazu in both the 154 and 157 and liked both and kind of torn between the 2 for myself as well, but I think ultimately I would go 157. Testing the 154 I was 185lbs and testing the 157 I was 175lbs – so actually lighter when I tested the longer board. But I didn’t mind the 154 at all, even at 185lbs. Note that this is at 6’0″, and with a size 10 boot.
For you, it’s a really tough call, but I think just with boot size, I would be ever so slightly leaning towards the 154 for you. Just note that at 154, with your specs, it might feel subtly more maneuverable, subtly softer flexing, subtly less stable at speed, compared to how I felt the 157, but not to the same extent as I would feel the 154 compared to the 157 (hope that makes sense!). i.e. what I mean is that the difference I would feel in those factors on the 154 would be more pronounced (less subtle) in comparison to how I felt the 157.
But yeah, long story short, I am slightly leaning 154 for you.
If you do go 154, then I think the Force would work well as bindings. If you go 157, then maybe something a little stiffer to better drive the 157 which will feel a little bigger/stiffer feeling. Something like the Atlas or Falcor, if you were going Union – and lots of other options too, if you wanted them. But yeah, if you go 154, I think the Force would work fine (or the Strata).
Hi Mate. I have UK 11 size boots (Vans Infuse 29cm mondo) and I was thinking of buying Kazu Kokubo Pro 154 (waist 25.3 cm). Do you think that should I buy it or to look for another wider powder board ?
US11 sorry
Hi Alex
Thanks for your message – and for the correction. With UK11s definitely too narrow, IMO.
With US11s, it’s still probably too narrow, IMO. The width at the back insert on the 154 is around 260mm. Something I am certainly comfortable with with US10s, but not sure I would be with US11s. I’ve ridden as narrow as 255mm at the waist with US10s and didn’t run into any issues, but 260mm on 10s would be roughly the equivalent of 250mm on US11s. The Infuse are low profile, so that does help (only 2.3cm on the outersole versus mondo on the pair that I measured). So for your 11s, I would expect the outersole to be roughly 31.3cm. That’s going to mean around 5.3cm total overhang on the back insert (or 2.65cm per edge if your boot are perfectly centered), with a zero degree binding angle. A bit more angle on the binding gives you a bit more leeway. Certainly on the toe edge, I wouldn’t want to go any more than 2.5cm overhang max, and even then I’d prefer it to be less.
I don’t think it’s undoable, but it’s definitely borderline. One other thing is how you ride. If you like to get deep in your carves, that makes it less doable. I think it’s possible that you get away with it – especially if you were to center your boots so that you had mildly more overhang on your heel edge, but it’s pushing it a little. And if you’re riding it in softer snow, then there’s more chance of drag too.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hey Nate, you rip. This board seems to be wait I am looking for, but I wear 11.5 boots, 5´11 height and 176kg. You think the Kazu 160 x 257 waist could fit my boots with no drag?
Hi Alan
It would be risky, IMO. WIth 11.5s, you’re likely to have a boot length around 32.5cm and the width at inserts on the Kazu I would estimate to be around 26.3cm at the back insert. That’s total overhang of 6.2cm (3.1cm per toe and heel edge with perfect centering). With a bit more of an angle on your back foot, that would reduce a little. It’s more overhang than ideal, IMO. If you have low profile boots and ride with a reasonable angle on your back foot, and aren’t doing any super aggressive carves (like euro carves), then you’d likely be fine, but otherwise, there would likely be risk of boot drag.
Hope this helps
Dear Nate, I am 176cm (5’8″) and 67kg (148 lbs) and not a particularly powerful rider (long thin legs). I wanted a board more focus for mostly Japow and some all mountain. Would you recommend the Mercury 155cm or the Kazu? And which size for the Kazu? 151? 154? Thank you very much!
Hi Jeremy
Thanks for your message.
I think the Kazu would be better for Japow. Also it’s maybe a little softer flexing. On paper Capita rates Kazu 6.5/10 and the Mercury 7/10 for flex. The Mercury by my feel is more like a 6.5/10. The Kazu feels stiffer in hand to flex – more like a 7/10, but on snow felt more 6.5/10 or even 6/10.
So, flex-wise (going with the fact that a little softer means it should be easier to power if you don’t have that much power) the Kazu might also be a little better. Overall, I would go Kazu for you, based on what you’re describing.
Size-wise, you’re on track with 154 or 151. Both would work but there are pros and cons to both sizes.
The 151 would be more maneuverable and easier to power than the 154.
The 154 would offer better float in powder, better stability at speed and better for long wide carves.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thank you so much Nate, you are a legend!
You’re very welcome Jeremy. Hope you have an awesome season!
You are the best. Cheers.
You’re very welcome Mike. Hope you’re having/continue to have an awesome season!
Hi,
great review! How would you compare it with the 2018 Kazu, some say a bit stiffer so even more in the all-mountain direction, making it even more interesting. Thoughts on that?
Hi Tim
Unfortunately I didn’t get a chance to ride the 2018 model, so I couldn’t say for sure – but they are supposed to have stiffened it up marginally. Capita rates the 2018 model 6.5/10 and they rated the 2017 model 6/10 (which I would say was pretty accurate). So yeah, supposed to be a little bit stiffer but I couldn’t say for sure.
Ok thanks Nate!
Still haven’t tried the 2018 one dude?
Hi Mike
No, unfortunately haven’t had a chance to ride the 2018 model yet.
Hi Nate,
From your experience from the previous model, what will be the best size ( for 2018 model) for height 165cm and weight 70kg in order to float easily in pow but also carve through the trees and play in the park a little?
Hi Mike
I’d say the 151cm would be the best size for your specs. I would put you on around a 152 for an all-mountain board – and 153, 154 for a more freeride/powder oriented board. However, this is the kind of board, IMO, that you go a little shorter for. And for the trees and the park the 151 is going to be a much better size for you, IMO than the 154. And even though the 154 would float better in powder, I’d say the 151 would do a good job for your specs – and certainly better than other boards that aren’t as oriented for powder as this one (it’s got a big wide nose (296mm – which is rather wide for a 151) that’s rockered up and a narrower tail, and it’s camber right back to the tail – this board is designed to sink the tail and raise the nose).
But yeah, long story short, I’d definitely say 151 for you.
Hope this helps