Getting the right size snowboard bindings is really important. Bindings are the connection between you and the snowboard.
They transfer the energy from your muscles into the snowboard to tell it what to do.
Whether you get the right or wrong size will affect the effectiveness and efficiency of that energy transfer.
The bindings need to be sized so that they are;
- The right size for your boots; and
- The right size for your board.
Thankfully this isn’t too difficult and there is a bit of leeway.
Sizing with your boots
Bindings typically come in Small, Small/Medium, Medium, Medium/Large, Large & Large/X Large. Unfortunately there isn’t an industry norm for which boot size fits which binding size. For example a medium size binding in one brand might fit a size 10 but in another brand you would need a large size binding.
The tables below show roughly what binding size you want to go with depending on your boot size and depending on the brand.
As you will see the sizings are far from standardized. One brands medium doesn’t fit the same sized boots as another brands medium. Also some brands size by Small, Medium, Large, X Large whilst others size by S/M, M/L, L/XL.
Having standardized sizings would be great – but, for now at least, we have to work with what we have.
The Tables
In some cases a certain boot size will fit with two different sizes. For example with the Burton Men’s bindings a size 8.0 could fit a small or a medium and sizes 10.0 to 11.0 could fit a medium or a large.
If you have any questions regarding the sizing in the tables just leave a comment at the bottom of this post.
All shoe sizes are in US sizing. The Men’s table shows shoe size in US men’s and Women’s table shows shoe size in US Women’s sizes.
Men's Snowboard Binding Sizes (by US Men's Boot Sizes)
BRAND | S (S/M) | M (M/L) | L (L/XL) | XL |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Arbor | 7-9 | 9-11 | 11-13 | - |
Bent Metal | 5-8 | 8-11 | 11-14 | - |
Burton | 6-8 | 8-11 | 10+ | - |
Fix | 6-8.5 | 8-10.5 | 10-13 | - |
Flow | - | 5.5-8 | 8.5-10.5 | 11-14 |
Flux | 4.5-7.5 | 7-9.5 | 9+ | - |
Flux (Transfer Base) | 5-7.5 | 7-9.5 | 9+ | - |
GNU Freedom & Psych | - | 6-9 | 9-11 | 12-14 |
GNU Cheeter | 4-7 | 7-10 | 10-12 | - |
K2 | - | 5-9 | 8-12 | 11-15 |
NOW (Hanger 1.0) | 5-7.5 | 7-9.5 | 10-13 | - |
NOW (Hanger 2.0 & 3.0) | 5-7.5 | 7-10.5 | 10-13 | - |
Ride | 4-8 | 6-10 | 10.5+ | |
Rome | 5-7.5 | 7-10.5 | 10-12 | - |
Rossignol (XV/Cuda/Cobra) | 5-7.5 | 8+ | - | - |
Rossignol (Viper/Battle) | 5-8.5 | 9-11.5 | 12+ | - |
Salomon | 3-7 | 6.5-10 | 10-15 | - |
Union | 6-7.5 | 8-10 | 10.5+ | - |
Note: The tables above have been updated for 2022 models. For 2021 and 2020 model binding sizes open the respective tabs below.
2020/2021 MEN'S BINDING SIZING TABLE (OPEN TAB)
2019/2020 MEN'S BINDING SIZING TABLE (OPEN TAB)
Women's Snowboard Binding Sizes (by US Women's Boot Sizes)
BRAND | XS | S (S/M) | M (M/L) | L |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Arbor | - | 5-7 | 7-9 | - |
Burton | - | 4-6 | 6-8 | 8+ |
Fix | - | 6-10 | - | - |
Flow | - | 4-6.5 | 7-9.5 | 10-12 |
Flux | 4-6.5 | 5.5-8.5 | 8-10.5 | - |
GNU | - | 4-7 | 6-9 | - |
K2 (Hue & Meridian) | - | - | 6-10 | - |
K2 (Bedford & Cassette) | - | 3-6 | 6-9 | 9-12 |
NOW (Hanger 1.0) | - | 5.5-8.5 | 8-10.5 | - |
NOW (Hanger 2.0) | - | 5-8.5 | 8-11.5 | - |
Ride | - | 5-9 | 7-11 | - |
Rome | - | 6.5-9 | 9-12 | - |
Rossignol | - | 5-9 | - | - |
Salomon | - | 4-8 | 7.5-11 | 11.5+ |
Union | - | 4-6.5 | 7-8.5 | 9-11 |
Note: The tables above have been updated for 2022 models. For 2021 and 2020 model binding sizes open the respective tabs below.
2020/2021 WOMEN'S BINDING SIZING TABLE (OPEN TAB)
2019/2020 WOMEN'S BINDING SIZING TABLE (OPEN TAB)
These tables won’t guarantee you get the right size but it’s a good starting point and should be pretty accurate and get you there most of the time.
If you want it to be fool proof then you will need to try your boots in the bindings in person if possible. If not you could try ringing or emailing a store and asking them if they can put a pair of boots the same size as yours into the bindings that you are thinking about getting.
Smaller than average and larger than average boot sizes are likely to need to be more careful in making sure they get the right size.
Boot Size Conversions
The tables above are all in US sizes - to convert to other sizes check out the table below.
The table below shows conversions for snowboard boots. This differs from a lot of shoe size conversions. Also, some snowboard boot brands convert slightly differently so it pays to double check with the particular brand of boot. If the brand of boot you have doesn't have their own conversion chart, then this is the best one to use.
Foot Length (cm) | Foot Length (inch) | Men's US Boot | Women's US Boot | Euro Boot | UK Boot |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
20 | 7.87 | 2 | 3 | 31 | 1 |
20.5 | 8.07 | 2.5 | 3.5 | 32 | 1.5 |
21 | 8.27 | 3 | 4 | 33 | 2 |
21.5 | 8.46 | 3.5 | 4.5 | 34 | 2.5 |
22 | 8.66 | 4 | 5 | 35 | 3 |
22.5 | 8.86 | 4.5 | 5.5 | 36 | 3.5 |
23 | 9.06 | 5 | 6 | 36.5 | 4 |
23.5 | 9.25 | 5.5 | 6.5 | 37.5 | 4.5 |
24 | 9.45 | 6 | 7 | 38 | 5 |
24.5 | 9.65 | 6.5 | 7.5 | 38.5 | 5.5 |
25 | 9.84 | 7 | 8 | 39 | 6 |
25.5 | 10.04 | 7.5 | 8.5 | 40 | 6.5 |
26 | 10.24 | 8 | 9 | 41 | 7 |
26.5 | 10.43 | 8.5 | 9.5 | 41.5 | 7.5 |
27 | 10.63 | 9 | 10 | 42 | 8 |
27.5 | 10.83 | 9.5 | 10.5 | 43 | 8.5 |
28 | 11.02 | 10 | 11 | 43.5 | 9 |
28.5 | 11.22 | 10.5 | 11.5 | 44 | 9.5 |
29 | 11.42 | 11 | 12 | 45 | 10 |
29.5 | 11.61 | 11.5 | - | 45.5 | 10.5 |
30 | 11.81 | 12 | - | 46 | 11 |
30.5 | 12.01 | 12.5 | - | 47 | 11.5 |
31 | 12.20 | 13 | - | 47.5 | 12 |
31.5 | 12.40 | 13.5 | - | 48 | 12.5 |
32 | 12.60 | 14 | - | 48.5 | 13 |
32.5 | 12.80 | 14.5 | - | 49 | 13.5 |
33 | 13.00 | 15 | - | 49.5 | 14 |
33.5 | 13.20 | 15.5 | - | 50 | 14.5 |
34 | 13.40 | 16 | - | 51 | 15 |
Sizing with your Board
It’s also important that your bindings fit with the width of your board. If the bindings are too big and overhang the edges too much they will dig into the snow when you make sharp turns and cause you to wipe out.
On the other hand if they are too small for the board then you won’t be able to apply as much pressure to the edges of the board which will make it less responsive and feel heavy and labored during turns.
It all centers around the boot really. If your board is the right size for your boot and the bindings are the right size for your boot then the bindings will be the right size for the board.
Check out the article at the link below to make sure you get the right sized board for your boot/foot size.
This is why it is best to buy boots first. Then you can get the right width board for your boots and the right sized bindings for your boots and then your board and bindings will automatically be size compatible.
What Next
Hopefully now you have a better idea of how to get the right size snowboard bindings. It’s a good idea to favourite this page in case you need to refer back to it later.
There are other things that you should also know to make the best bindings choice. Check out the articles below to see what else you should know before you purchase your bindings.
>>What are the Different Types of Snowboard Bindings
>>How to Choose the right Snowboard Binding Flex for my Riding Style & Ability
>>Snowboard and Binding Compatibility: Which Bindings fit Which Boards?
If you have any questions or comments just leave them in the comments section below and I will answer them as soon as possible.
Hello Nate,
I was looking at the 2022 Gnu Psych bindings, size 9 (tweener) and Burton Photon. Didn’t know if Burtons ran on a bigger boot vs smaller boot size or if mattered…this will be on a Ride Warpig board. Very much appreciated!
Hi Mike
Thanks for your message.
Burton boots have quite a small footprint, so the boots will likely fit best in the Medium. I haven’t tested GNU bindings, so can’t say for sure, but given that Burton boots have a smaller footprint that’s the most likely case. Because you have a wider board in the Warpig, the Large is probably the best match to the board. However, I would optimize boot to binding fit as a priority over binding to board fit. So I’d go with the Medium’s as I predict that they’d be the best fit with your boots.
Hope this helps
Dear Nate, hello, a couple questions,
I got Burton Felix Boa womens boots in US size 8.5, and thinking of getting Escapade bindings in size L. Do you think they would be a good fit or i should downsize them to M?
And as to the board, what width of the waist L should be going for with L size bindings (currently considering an Instigator, Flying V or Rewind. Would greatly appreciate your advice. Thanks!
Hi Zhenya
Thanks for your message.
The L would be the best fit for your boots according to Burton’s sizing. I haven’t tried women’s 8.5 boots in a Large or Medium Escapade, so I couldn’t say for sure. It might fit in an M, but hard to say.
As far as which size to go for, I wouldn’t base it entirely on the width – you don’t want to get the wrong length either. Burton bindings, even in the Ls don’t have super long baseplates, so you should be able to get them on most boards, as long as your not in too short a range for length. With Felix 8.5s, you could go as narrow as 237mm at the waist, even with pretty straight binding angles. But I wouldn’t go wider than around 245mm, or it’s going to feel too wide. In your right length, between that range, you should be good with 8.5s and in Escapade Ls. I would be happy to give my opinion on the right length for those boards. I would just need your height, weight, your rough ability level and how you like to ride (fast?, aggressive?, casual?, trees?, park?, powder? – anything you can tell me about your typical day on the mountain).
If you could also let me know which Flying V model. Feelgood? Yeasayer?
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
Another great article! I’d like to get your thoughts on the setup in the images below. I’m trying to see which binding to buy based on how it fits on the board.
I have adjusted each binding so that the boot is as centred as possible on the binding. On the Medium I have extended the toe ramp as far as possible. On the Large the heel cup is all the way in and the toe ramp is fully retracted (the design means it still juts out a bit). I have measured the angles using your other article and am happy that the boot/board overhang is within the limits for all of them (the angles range 66-69 degrees on the heel and 69-78 on the toe) so I’m keen to make sure the binding is correctly sized for the board.
It will become clear but in each jpg I have stitched 2 different shots together, of the same model of binding in Large (top) and Medium (bottom). In the 2 links there are different boots and it’s the same bindings in each one. Each photo is of the front binding at reference stance with +18 degrees, taken from the tail end towards the nose. Hope that makes sense!
Boot A – https://ibb.co/k0wn2Zk
Boot B – https://ibb.co/FD6rrnF
Extra angles (Boot A) – https://ibb.co/kQ53F2N
Some other notes:
– The board is a 162 Jones Frontier and bindings are Union Force. I wanted Cartels but the heel overhang is 3cm and angle is not even 60 degrees because it is just not very adjustable on the disc.
– I moved the toe straps up out the way, I would normally mount over the toe cap.
– The medium and large straps are the same length and towards being maxed out with both boots. If I ever bought another boot I’d have to make sure it was a low profile with the medium.
– The bindings are only resting on the topsheet, I marked the correct position but there may be a slight difference once fitted.
– The bottom of the Large that touches the board, is almost exactly the same width of the topsheet. It looks like it overhangs in the image but it doesn’t (see extra angles).
– The design means the toe ramp for both the medium and large just overhangs the steel edge by 1-3mm toe-side. I don’t think it’s enough to be an issue but I’m not sure. The boot will hit first for sure and the board would have to be 90 degrees to matter. Do you think it could damage the binding though?
– For the boots with the white sole, it’s actually the heel cup of the binding that would make contact first with the ground on that edge. On the other boot, it’s close but the boot itself hits first because it has no bevel.
Lastly, an unrelated question but not sure where to put it. I noticed that the slots on the 4×4 union disc are close enough that they can be aligned on the inserts and mount it 4×2 if you wanted. Is that a bad idea do you think?
Sorry for the length of the question! I appreciate it!!!!
Dave
Hi David
Thanks for your message and apologies for the slower than usual reply – on a snowboarding tour right now, so a bit behind in answering.
I’ve analyzed the pics (thanks for that, makes things nice and easy seeing the pics) and your notes.
Firstly, either size is going to work, IMO, so there isn’t a wrong choice. However, I would be leaning towards the Large. The boots seems to fit fine in both bindings and the large will give you that little bit more leverage. The baseplate at the bottom is closer to the edges so that will help to give subtly more leverage. And it doesn’t look like they’re overhanging the edges in a significant way, that it would become a problem. With 1-3mm of overhang over the metal edges, I think you’ll be fine. And as you say, the boot will hit first – and you’re not going to be carving at 90 degrees!
In terms of mounting 2 x 4 with them, you can and I don’t think it’s going to be an issue. The only thing might be board feel. Couldn’t say for sure, but I don’t think there would be any issues with security of the bindings.
Brilliant, thanks Nate. Hope you have a great trip!
You’re very welcome David – and thanks, trip has been amazing so far!
Hi Nate.
Me again. I went with the 156 Yes Standard, and Adidas Tactical ADV 10.5.
I need advise on deciding the best fit between the Atlas M or L. Both M and L fit the Standard 156.
My mondo fits the Union M guideline, and my boot size fits the L guideline.
My Mondo: 27.8cm
Adidas 10.5 Mondo: 27.6cm
Union Medium Mondo: 26-28cm
Union Medium Boot: 8-10
Union Large Mondo: 28.5+cm
Union Large Boot: 10.5+
Is it more ideal to have you boot toe end overhang baseplate, or for the base plate to come close to end of the boot toe end?
Hi Richard
Ideally, you’d have even toe and heel overhang on binding and then that overhang is also even on the board. Typically you would have some boot over binding overhang, because a little bit of boot overhanging the board is good, but you don’t want the binding overhanging the board.
In your case, your boot should fit the M binding fine and I’d be leaning that way. However, so long as the L doesn’t actually overhang the edges of the board, then it will also certainly work. The advantage of going with the bigger binding is that it gets closer to the edges (again so long as it doesn’t go over), giving you subtly more leverage on the edges. So if boot fit is just as good in either, then I’d be leaning the larger size. But I would go with best boot first of all and I suspect the M would be a slightly better boot fit for the Tactical 10.5.
Hi Nick,
I can’t seem to decide what bindings to buy because there are so many in the market and I don’t really understand the difference between them all (plus I don’t think I would feel that much of a difference between them). I looked at the list you suggested for women’s all-mountain bindings however some of them were out of my price range. I’m looking for women’s bindings in the price range of 200-300 (all mountain) and was wondering if you have any suggestions.
Hi Iris.
Thanks for your message.
Bindings make a bigger difference than you’d think. But there are certainly bindings in your price range that will match what you’re looking for. But I would need more information to give you the best options. You want your bindings to be a good match to the rest of your gear and a good match to how you ride and your ability level. So if you could let me know the following, I can find some options that will suit, in that price range:
1. What board will you be putting the bindings on? Matching flex with the board – or at least getting close to, is a good idea. Brand and model (and year of model, if you know it).
2. What is your ability level? Beginner, intermediate, advanced expert? – if you’re not sure check this article out
3. How do you like to ride? – fast? casual? trees? park/tricks? steep? powder?
Hey Nate,
I’m thinking of getting either a Salomon Wonder board or Rossignol Airis. I would say I am an intermediate rider who typically just rides down skill hills and sometimes go to the park.
Thanks in advance
Hi Iris
Thanks for the extra info.
For those boards and how you ride, I would be looking at something around 5/10 or up to 6/10 flex max. Because you sometimes go to the park, I would get something with at least decent board feel. In your price range, I think your best bets are:
– Burton Lexa Re:Flex
– Flux GS
– Salomon Mirage
– Burton Scribe Re:Flex
So I got a hand me down pair of Union Stratas from the hubby. They are a medium and he needed a large. I have used them a few times but I feel like they are too big. I have 8.5 burton Felix’s. I was looking at the Union Legacy. How similar are the Legacys to the Stratas? I found a pair of small Stratas on sale for super cheap while the Legacys are not on sale and almost 300€.
Hi Blake
Thanks for your message.
The Legacy are basically the women’s equivalent of the Strata, so they’re a very similar binding. But note that women’s bindings (the good ones anyway) are made to better fit women’s feet, ankles, calves. I don’t know technically exactly what they do to achieve that, so I don’t know how much of it is marketing hype and how much is actually beneficial. One thing, from how I understand it, is that women’s calves tend to sit a little lower than men’s, so they size the highbacks accordingly. I’ve never measured a small Strata, so I don’t know how the highback sizes compared to the Medium Legacy. But comparing the Medium Strata to Medium Legacy:
– The highback on the Medium Strata is 26.9cm above the base of the binding. That’s measured from the top of the highback to the ground
– The equivalent measurement on the Medium Legacy is 25.2cm
Unfortunately I don’t know if the small Strata is similar to the Medium Legacy in this regard. And not sure if there’s anything else about the Legacy that makes it more women’s specific. All that said, the small Strata would almost certainly be a better fit than the Medium Strata.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
Hey Nate,
So I am Currently using Size L union force on my board. I changed my boots at the end of last season, moved from some DC boots to Vans, size 10 (DC) 9.5 (Vans). My previous boots where definitely more bulky which could be why the shop gave me size large bindings and now cant shake this feeling that my binding is now too big on my boot.
Should I consider changing my bindings ?
Hi Sergio
Thanks for your message.
A large Union is pretty big for a 9.5 boot. The Medium would be a better fit for sure, IMO. I’m sure the Large will probably still work – but the Medium would be more optimal. If you actually can’t crank the straps tight enough with the Large or if you have significant gaps on the sides of the bindings, then I would change for sure. If not, then it’s a case of changing will be more optimal but not completely necessary.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi Nate,
Thanks so much for this information! I have an Arbor Ethos 150CM snowboard and 6.5W Burton Mint BOA boots. Wondering if a medium (7-9W) Union Juliet binding can work with this set up?
Thank you in advance!
-Claudia
Hi Claudia
Thanks for your message.
No guarantees, but I had someone test the Juliet’s last season in the medium size and she wore a 6.5 – and they fit her fine. They were Thirty Two boots rather than Burton, so it’s not an exact test, so no guarantees, but you might be OK.
Hi Nate,
I’m looking at buying either the K2 Meridian bindings or the Burton Citizen Re-Flex. I’m looking for an all-mountain type of binding. Which would you recommend?
Thanks in advance
Hi Iris
Depends on which board you’d be putting them on. Citizens are probably too soft for most all-mountain boards, unless you’re on a beginner board. Meridian could work on softer all-mountain boards. Generally trying to match flex of board to bindings is a good rule of thumb. Some options depending on the flex of board you have (or are going to get):
>>Top 5 All Freestyle Bindings
>>Top 5 All Mountain Bindings
Hope this helps
Hi Nate! I got a new setup this year which includes a Hel Yes 146, Ride Hera boots in 6.5, and Union Legacy bindings size S. The binding platform seems very small compared to the boot. Is it normal for the boot to hang off the binding platform 1-2 inches in the front and back? Should I get the medium binding instead? The width seems fine as does the buckles, it’s just the length of the boot that is of concern.
Hi Lisa
Thanks for your message.
A bit of boot overhang over the bindings is normal and actually wanted. Too much could get a bit weird, but if you’ve got no more than 2 inches on toe and heel, you should be good. Measuring my boot overhang just now. In both sets of bindings, I’ve got 2 inches of total overhang (average 1 inch per end). With another pair of boots, it’s more like 2 3/4 inches total.
I think you should be good. With the Hel Yes 146, the medium would certainly work on the board and I’d say your boot would be fine in the medium, if you were really worried about it, but that doesn’t sound too excessive in terms of overhang to me. I think if you had more than 2 inches per end, then that would be too much. If you’re like 1 1/2 inches each end of the boot, I wouldn’t worry about it.
Hope this helps
This is so helpful, thank you Nate! With the mediums there is about 3/4 inch overhang on each end but then the binding is pretty much at the edge of the board on both ends. With the smalls there is about 2.5 total inches of overhang. Which size do you lean toward with these stats?
Hi Lisa.
Whilst I think you would be fine with the boot overhang of 2.5″ total on the small, I’d be leaning towards the medium, assuming the bindings aren’t overhanging the edges of the board – and that you’re able to get your boots close to centered (even overhang (overhang in realation to the boards edges, rather than the bindings base plate, in this case) on heel and toe). Having the bindings as close to the edge of the board, but without going over, is ideal in terms of board to binding setup (gives you a little more leverage when the bindings are closer to the edges). So it sounds like the M fit the board best (which makes sense given the width of the board), so if the boots fit both the S and M fine, then I would go M as they are the best board to binding match. Hope that makes sense.
Hi Nate,
I have the Salomon Assassin Pro in 158W, I have the ThirtyTwo TM-2 Boa boots in an 11. Do you think a M Union Atlas would work or would the L be better?
Thanks
Hi Marco
Thanks for your message.
I would go L for the Atlas with 11s – and it should work better with the board too (baseplate closer to the edges for a bit of extra leverage) – but fit with boots would be the main reason. I’ve had some bulky 10s in M Union bindings that were at the limit of the toe strap. TM-2s aren’t bulky, but with 11s, they might still be pushing it.
Hope this helps
Nate, I have size 8(US) Burton Moto BOA boots. I’m looking at Burton Cartel bindings. I ordered both Sm and Med. Small seems too narrow with no room to change boots in the future and Med needs to ratchet all the way in, toe and heel, even after they are adjusted all the way. Seems like Burton’s sizing doesn’t really work for their own size 8 boot. Any suggestions?
Hi Dennis
Thanks for your message.
Sounds tricky. I don’t have any experience with small Burton bindings, so I’m not sure quite how narrow your talking, but sounds like they’re pretty narrow. But your boots fit in there? But just worried that future boots could be too wide (understandable concern – just wanting to clarify).
In the mediums, have you set the ankle and toe straps to their shortest settings. Like on the very end hole? Again, I know you said you adjusted them all the way, so I’m pretty sure you have, but again wanted to clarify. Just that it seems strange, like you say, that that they’re own boot in an 8 which is supposed to fit both there small and medium isn’t fitting either that well. One more question. Do you have the gas pedal (aka toe ramp) set all the way in – i.e. not extended at all. And also just to clarify, are you in the EST or Re:Flex model?
Hi Nate,
I wear a Women’s 9 in Burton Limelight and a medium in Union Trilogy Bindings. I have slight hangover off the binding. Should I bump up to large bindings or do you think the large would have too much wiggle room with my boots? I appreciate your help.
Hi Patricia
A little bit of boot overhang over the bindings is normal. If it’s nothing crazy, you should be all good. You want your boots to overhang the edges of the board a little bit (not too much but a little bit) but you don’t want your bindings overhanging the board (unless it’s very miniscule), so naturally there is always a little bit of overhang of boots over bindings. That said, with 9s, I think you’d be OK in the large, but I would only change if that boot overhang is significant.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
My son, 13, wears a EU 42,5 shoe and has grown out of his boots, 40.5. I have bought him a Capita (Children of the Gnar) board and Union bindings, size L. We have yet to get boots, but I went for the L bindings as he is growing so fast, I felt it would be a waste to get M bindings. Do you think it was too hasty a decision on the L bindings? I also did not want to miss out on a great board/binding deal.
Hi David
Thanks for your message.
Can definitely see the logic of going for the L at this stage. But a couple of things I’d be concerned about.
Firstly, that the boot fit isn’t great, if the boots are too small. If he ends up in EU43 or 43.5 boots, then he’ll likely be OK boot fit wise.
But even more so, it’s whether the bindings overhang the edges of the board or not. Some boot overhang is all good, but preferably no binding overhang (to clarify, marginal overhang over the top sheet edges is all good, but when it’s actually overhanging enough to be past the metal edges, that’s what we want to avoid). Some Union bindings are quite long in the base plate, particularly in the large sizes, so that would be my biggest concern.
Also in this case boot overhang could potentially be an issue, depending on what size boots he ends up in, as the Children of the Gnar isn’t super wide.
Can you let me know:
1. Which Union binding you got?
2. What size Children of the Gnar you got?
If they were sold as a package you’d hope the bindings aren’t too big for the board, but I’ve seen it happen.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
My wife has a boot size US7, and we just got a pair of Union Trilogy M. I suppose we could go with the smaller size bindings. The bindings bed is wider than the boot width by 0.4 inches. Boots perfectly centered on the board. Are these gaps on sides of the bindings critical?
Hi Max
Thanks for your message.
I’ve ridden bindings with similar gaps on the sides without issue, so should be OK. If her boot can move around side to side in there, then you don’t want that. But so long as the boot is secure in there, without sliding around, then you should be good. Depending on the boot, she would most likely fit in the small. But no guarantees, especially if she has bulkier boots.
I am looking at getting a good freestyle binding and have union force bindings. I want something softer but still with great adjustability. I also want to try something new like burton or flux bindings. i have a size 8 boot in vans hi standard pros. The only concern I have with looking at bindings that don’t have adjustable heel cups is making sure I can get my boot/binding centered on board from heel to toe edge. In your opinion and experience. Does having heel cup adjustable bindings really that important when I have an average size boot?
Hi Colton
Thanks for your message.
I really like the heel cup adjustment, but it’s not a deal breaker. It makes things a lot easier for boot centering, but you do have ways you can adjust the likes of Burton and Flux for boot centering.
With the Burton Re:Flex disc, you have 3 holes that run vertically on the disk, so you can either setup on the bottom set of holes to move closer to the toe edge, the top set of holes to move closer to the heel edge or use the center holes if that’s the best position for your boots on your board.
Flux is similar. With the Burton disc you have to run it that way and there are limited stance widths. With the Flux disc you can choose to run it horizontally or vertically. If you run it horizontally, then you have more stance width options. If you run it horizontally you have the ability to adjust your toe to heel edge centering. So if you’re good on the reference stance or a set of holes out from it or something like that and don’t need smaller increments in stance width adjustments, then you can use that to better center your boots.
The advantage of the heel cup adjustment is that you don’t have to sacrifice that stance width adjustability if you’re boots aren’t naturally centered. But if stance width works on your board without having to have more micro increments, then it’s certainly not a deal breaker.
Flux are really adjustable, apart from the heel cup. Burton bindings are also nice and adjustable, but not quite to the same extent as Flux. Flux and Burton tend to have similar adjustability across their line (except in Burton’s case there is a difference in EST and Re:Flex, but assuming you don’t have a channel board, I’m assuming we’re talking about Re:Flex), whereas for Union there’s differing adjustability depending on the binding.
From Flux, you could look at the DS, which would give you a softer feeling flex versus the Force, but depends on how much softer you want to go. The DSL would be a great option if you really wanted to make that difference in flex more noticeable. For reference, I would say Force 6/10 flex, DS 5/10, DSL 4/10.
From Burton I think Malavita is the first that comes to mind, but you won’t notice a big difference in flex. By my feel, the Malavita is 5.5/10 flex. The Burton Mission or Genesis would be a slightly bigger flex difference (5/10).
If you were to go back to Union, then the Contact Pro would be a great choice.
Hope this helps
Thanks Nate, yeah that helps a lot.
I am thinking of something more like 4/10 on flex. Would the Bent Metal Logic be a good softer freestyle binding? I know it has the adjustable heel cup too and is softer than the bent metal transfers.
Hi Colton
I don’t have much experience with Bent Metal bindings (ridden the Transfer, but not since 2017), but I liked them. Simple but do everything you need really. I actually found the Transfer to be around 4/10 flex – softer than it’s rated. But that could have changed since then, as it’s a brand I haven’t kept up with demoing. Was hoping to get on some again this year, but had a harder time getting gear this year (with Covid). So yeah, Logic might be even softer than 4, but it’s hard to say for sure.
But yeah, on paper, I think it’s an option that could definitely work.
Hi Nate,
Always come to your website for gear advice and it has been great! I am now looking to buy a 156cm Korua Cafe Racer to pair with Now Drive for size 8 Vans infuse. I am thinking a Small binding for less heel/toe drag on sharp turns but would that be bad for applying pressure to the edges? (technically size 8 boots is medium binding) 🙂
Hi Ian
Thanks for your message.
Unless the bindings baseplate was to overhang the edges, there won’t be any danger of binding drag – even like very slight overhang, it’s unlikely. With the Korua Cafe Racer, the NOW Drive medium won’t be wider than the inserts of the board. The NOW Drive, last I measured it (2020 model), is 24.3cm (9.6″) long on the footbed. So it should be well inside the edges of the Cafe Racer 156. Even if you could fit your boots fine in the small, which you possibly could, I think the Medium would be better – as you said – for applying pressure to the edges. And with no issues with drag, you might as well get the extra leverage.
Hope this helps
I currently wear a size 8 Ride Hera women’s boot, and I just bought a Burton feel good flying V 149 cm board which fits either a medium or large binding. The medium binding shows it’s good up to a boot size 8 and the large starts at a boot size 8, so I can go either direction but I’m not sure if I should air on the smaller side or larger size based on my boot and board. Any insight is much appreciated.
Hi Tessi
Thanks for your message.
Yeah in your case there isn’t a wrong choice for Medium or Large (in Burton bindings) – both sizes would certainly work with Ride boots. I would say the medium will give you the best boot fit. The most snug fit, but the Large should fit your boots fine too – like you would be swimming in them or anything.
For the board, you would get subtly more leverage on the edges going with the L, so for the board the Large is potentially a slightly better option. But the M will fit the board fine too – and with the extendable toe ramp on Burton bindings, you would be able to extend the toe ramp to fit the board (and your boots) better.
So I’d say M marginally better for boots and L marginally better for board, but both would work for both.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi! What size of Burton Citizen bindings should I buy? My US boot is size 8. I have tried size M, but to me it is little small. Should I try a L size?
Hi Gabriela
Thanks for your message.
Yeah it might be the case that you need to go large. Burton’s sizings are based on their boots. Burton boots are quite low profile. So if you’ve got a bulkier boot in an 8, it might be the case that you need an L. What brand boots do you have? And do you know the year? But most likely, if you have 8s and the medium feels like it’s too small, then the Large should work.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thank you for running the site! I’ve read so much of what you wrote that I think I’d really appreciate your suggestion on a dilemma I am facing. I am trying to decide between M/L or L/XL for a pair of 2020 Rome Katana. I’ve got both bindings in my hand now, and I am planning to return/sell the other after I’ve decided.
I have a Burton Ion US10.5 boot, and I am planning to put it on a Korua Pencil 159. According to the size chart on the boxes of the bindings, M/L is meant for 7-10 (with 10 having an asterisk saying safest to upsize), and L/XL is meant for 10+. This is different from what you have in the article (M/L for 8-11.5 for 2020 Katanas), so I am a bit confused here. Did you get your size chart from personal testing or some other sources?
In terms of the fit, both bindings fit the boot fine imo (straps centered, 4-7 ratchets in for both toe and ankle) – the L/XL out of the box and the M/L after some adjustments on the straps. The L/XL had a slightly more balanced toe and heel overhang whereas the M/L had a bit more toe than heel overhang, but not by much. Looking at the bindings on their own, the L/XL just seems to have a slightly longer footbed that is also slightly wider toward the toe size (same size heel side). I can’t really tell much difference between them otherwise.
Which size would you suggest based on the above? Since I have both sizes in my hand, if you have any tips on what I should do to test and make a decision, I’d appreciate it as well. Happy to post pictures if that’d be helpful. Thank you very much!
Hi Billy
Thanks for your message.
I don’t test Rome gear, so those sizings are from the Rome website. For 2021 the sizes have been adjusted to what you’re saying, basically. It’s possible I could have gotten the timing wrong and the sizing update came for the 2020 model. Because I don’t test Rome gear, I’m not as dialed in for them as I am for other brands.
In any case, it sounds like your 10.5s fit in the Medium, and with Burton boots in there, I’m not surprised (fairly low profile).
If the boot fits fine in the M, which it sounds like it does, then in terms of boot fit, I would be leaning towards M/L, assuming you can get your overhang centered on the board (you might be able to shift the bindings back a little on the board, so that you have equal overhang or slightly more on the heel – better to have slightly more on the heel than on the toe). If you can’t do that, then I’d go with the L/XL.
If you can get boot centering good on both the M/L and the L/XL, then the only other thing I would consider is the baseplate and how that goes on the board. I don’t test Korua either, so I don’t know how wide the 159 Pencil would be at the inserts, but basically, if the L/XL is overhanging at all the edges, when mounted, then I would go M/L. If the M/L is looking like the baseplate is quite far inside the edges, then I would be leaning L/XL, all else being equal, just because you’ll get a bit more leverage to the edges, if the bindings extend closer to the edges.
If the M/L isn’t too far from the edges AND you can get them well centered and they fit your boots better, then I would go M/L, just because it will likely be a snugger fit to your boots, and a little lighter overall.
That got a little convoluted! But hopefully that makes sense.
Hi wow so much great info! So I’m right between a m/l for aglow bindings. I’m in women’s 9.5 Ride Hera boots and a 147cm never summer lady west board. According to your chart and the Flow site I am right between a m/l in the women’s mayon flow bindings from 2019/20 (the style I prefer). My board has a decently small waist and with big feet I have to be careful of overhang as it is which is why I chose a lower profile boot – should I go down to the med which maxes out a 9.5 or a L which their site says is 8.5-11 women’s? Tyvm!
Ugh the more I look the more I think I need to be in a L for Flow lol. The Omnis and Mayons both top out at 9.5 for med and I think it’s gonna be too close whereas their L starts at 8.5-11 so I’m smack in the middle with my 9.5 foot for a good fit.
Hi CJ
Thanks for your message.
I don’t have a lot of experience with Flow bindings, so I’m not that familiar with how they fit. But their sizing says you can wear up to a 9.5 in their medium, so I don’t think you should have any issues going medium. In my experience with other brands the sizings are generally a little on the conservative side. Also, with the Hera having a lower profile, that puts you a little bit under. Also, it’s worth noting that the 2019/20 sizings for flow bindings had medium at 6-10 and Large from 9-13, so if you’re going 2019/20 then I think you’re even safer going Medium.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Great Site! Thanks for all the info and links. I am in the market for new equipment. I used to board regularly but have missed out on the last few years due work, family, etc. Now I am ready to hit the mountain again and need new gear. I used to suffer from some pretty bad heal left and so went to try on some boots this weekend and was surprised when the gentleman in the store told me that by measurement I should be in a 7.5 size boot (feet were 25.5cm long) since I wear a size 8 shoe. If I were to get a 7.5 boot, lets say burton boot, do you suggest I also get small bindings? If I were to get a 8 boot, would I go with small or medium. I am 5’6″, 145 pounds. Looking at a 148-151 sized board for mostly all mountain riding, less pipe and park. Any suggestions you have for gear would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again!
Hi Keith
Thanks for your message.
Firstly, length-wise, I think that’s a good range to look at for your specs, assuming an intermediate level of riding?
In my experience with Burton boots, if your feet are 25.5, you’ll probably end up fitting an 8 the best in Burton boots. But feet are pretty weird and even 2 feet at the same length can fit differently, so trying on is the best way to go about it. But Typically I would say an 8 for 25.5 feet for Burton boots.
If you do end up in a 7.5 Burton boot, then small is probably the best way to go. If you end up in an 8, I think it depends on the width of the board you get. It’s typically best to decide on boots first then board, then bindings. Because the board’s size can depend on the size of boots you end up in and bindings depend on both board and boots.
Some good all-mountain options in that length-range.
– YES Typo 149
– Ride Wildlife 151
– Slash Brainstorm 151
– Jones Mountain Twin 151
– Burton Custom Flying V 150
– YES Standard 149
Hope this helps
Hey Nate will A pair of Vans High Standard Pro Size 11 will fit Burton Malavita Medium Binding since it is on it’s size chart
Hi Ashton
Thanks for your message.
No guarantees, because I haven’t tested that exact combination of sizes, but given that the sizes on the Malavita M range from 8-11 and Vans boots tend to be a similar profile, length-wise, to Burton boots – and when I had the Vans Hi-Standard size 10 in there, there was plenty of room, I think you’d likely be fine. I found the Hi-Standard relatively bulky around the ankle of the boot, but not so much that there was any issues with the ankle strap – still definitely not maxed out. And I don’t imagine the 11 would be much bigger in that respect than the 10. So yeah, I think you’d be fine, but wouldn’t put an 11.5 in there. But I think you’d squeeze the 11 in there OK.
Hope this helps
Hey. So I just purchased a 2022 Burton FEELGOOD camber. The site suggested with my weight 110 and boot size 9 to get the 142 although my bindings are a Large and the sizing chart for the 142 says you should have a medium binding. I have Burton supreme size 9 boots with the 2020 Burton escapade bindings. Do you think this would work together or I would be better off returning the board and going with the 146? Thanks so much!!
Hi Annie
Thanks for your message.
For your weight I wouldn’t go to the 146. I would definitely stick to the 142 for this board. Feelgood isn’t super narrow in the 142, so I don’t think you’ll have boot drag issues. It’s on the narrower end of a good range for you, if you’re riding with a straight back binding angle – but even then, with Supreme’s I think the width will be fine boot-wise.
In terms of bindings, you should be fine getting the L on it too. The Feelgood 142 is likely around 248mm at the inserts (measured on the base of the board, between metal edge and metal edge at the reference stance) and I would predict the baseplate of the Escapade L to be around 235mm with no toe ramp extension and around 245mm fully extended. I’ve only measured the Medium, so I’m not sure but that’s what I would predict, but you can double check yourself. So it should be inside the edges. If you’re riding it with the toe ramp fully extended, it might be pushing it in terms of a little binding overhang (boot overhang is fine, but try to avoid binding overhang). OK for the bindings to overhang the edge of the top sheet, just not so far that it’s extending beyond the metal edge or at least not more than a couple of mm.
Hope this gives you more to go off
Hi nate
I was gifted a mens burton process camber size 162W the recommended binding size is Large for this board but I need a medium size binding since I’m a size 10US any idea if I can get away with using a medium size binding on this board ? thanks
Hi Roberto
Thanks for your message.
Depending on the brand of bindings you go with, you might be a large. A medium would work, but a large would be better. Personally I wouldn’t ride a wide board with 10s though. Some do like wide boards with 10s, so if you do then all good, but I would try to get a large binding. If you’re looking at Burton bindings, you can get in a Large with US10 boots fine. And that’s what I would do. Just gives you that little more length in the baseplate for more leverage on the edges.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thanks for all the info you provided. I just got a Mountain Twin 2021 and not sure what size binding to get. I am a size 10.5 US boot size however still need to buy both boots and binding. I know i want a hard boots as i mostly do aggressive riding, mostly freeride, trees and groomers. What would you suggest as type and size of bindings? Been suggested the NOW bindings but up for suggestions
Hi Paul
Thanks for your message.
Sizing will depend on the brand you go with and also on the size of the Mountain Twin you have. For what you’re describing for your riding and to be a good match to MT, I would look at something mid-stiff flex – something like one of the following:
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
Happy to give my opinion on best sized binding, if you narrow down the binding and if you can also let me know the size of your MT
Hope this helps
Hi Nate
I’m currently trying to decide between the Burton Genesis Medium or Large bindings to go on my Skeleton Key 154 cm and size 10.5 US Burton Ruler boot.
Burton’s guide recommend Large, but I’m worried I won’t be able to tighten the straps enough so the boot is locked in.
Could I get away with buying the Mediums and using those on the SK? Waist width is 256 mm I believe. Or should I follow Burton’s guide and get the Larges? And help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Hi Phillip
Thanks for your message.
I don’t imagine you will have any issues getting the straps tight enough with 10.5s in the Large. And the large is going to work better with the width of the Skeleton Key, IMO. So in this case I would also recommend Large. You would certainly fit fine in the Medium with the boots – and the medium would certainly work on the Skeleton Key. I rode the Skeleton Key with medium Burton bindings and it worked fine for me (with size 10 boots) – but I would still go with the Large, just because it’s going to provide a little more leverage on the edges, with that slightly wider width of the Skeleton Key.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate, i just received flow nx2 large bindings, and got 11.5 in us chart nidecker boots, my concern is the boot centering is a bit forward, not much, i have searched how to messure the front and back, but can’t find. Measuring from edges of snowboard? And so i can put a little back the bindings? Thanks 🍻
Hi Dan
Thanks for your message.
I’m not that familiar with Flow bindings, but from what I know I’m pretty sure you can run the disc vertical yeah? If you run the disc vertical, you should be able to move the bindings closer to the heel edge. It will mean you’ll have less stance width options, but should allow you to center the boots better on the board. Let me know if you’re not sure what I mean by running the disc vertically and I can show you a visual example. As far as I’m aware, you can’t adjust the heel cup of Flow bindings, so running the disc vertically is the only real way to adjust the centering.
To measure the overhang, go to the following and scroll down to the “Step 1: Measure your boot overhang accurately” section:
>>Picking the Best Width for a Snowboard
Hope this helps/answers your questions
Hi Nate,
I’m looking for an all mountain snowboard (all park heading a tiny bit more to the freeride side) and bindings. I’m a 5,10 guy using burton boots (size 11) weighting 174 pounds.
About the board: been doing my research and got interested in the burton custom camber and salomon assassin. Both boards have wide sizes witch my research appointed that should fit me: 158W. The board worries me the most, toe and heels drag or a wide board that would be too big for turns.
About the binding: been interested in the burton malavita, but can’t decide it’s size. Specially after your guide, that my feet should be on the limit between M and L. Worried about drag issues.
Am I heading the right way with both board and bindings?
Thank you, very much, in advance. Best,
Daniel
Hi Daniel
Thanks for your message.
Firstly in terms of binding sizing, I would go with the L for Burton for you. You could fit in the M, but the L will give you a bit more leverage on the edges of the board, if you’re going for a wide board, that’s even more reason to go L. But with Burton bindings the base plates on the L aren’t that long, so even if you snuck onto a regular width board, the L would be fine in that sense. And since you’re on the cuff, I would go L in this case.
In terms of the board size, I think you’re about right with something around a 157, 158 length for an all-mountain board, so 158W for either Assassin or Custom would work, IMO. In terms of width, both boards look a good width to me, for your boot size. The Assassin 158W should be around 272mm at the inserts, which should easily be wide enough, but without being too wide, for 11s. And the Custom 158W should be around 272mm at the inserts too. So I think you’re good there either way. So yeah, length and width, I think you’re good there.
The Assassin and Custom are different enough. The Custom is a little more of an aggressive ride. For more details on how I see the differences, you can check out my reviews on both below:
>>Assassin Review
>>Custom Review
I was a little confused by “all park heading a tiny bit more to the freeride side” – did you mean “a little park”?
Hi again Nate !
Your website got so much information, it”s amazing ! Thanks for building it up. I am wondering if I should get Burton escapade binding size medium or large. I have Burton escapade size 8 boot. I currently own both binding (burton escapade reflex size medium and burton escapade size large, older 2008 model). I feel like I don’t have to crank the medium escapade binding as much as the large binding to get the locked in feel that I like. Is it normal that it seems like I don’t have to tighten the medium binding as much ? Besides the base plate, is the rest the same on the binding (length of the straps, etc.) ? I saw a size large on 50 % sale (est) and I am wondering if I should get it or wait for a size medium to go on sale to go with my new board (both sizes can fit my boot and board). I also saw the Lexa (medium and large) on sales and I am wondering if it would be a set down from the escapades…
To sum it up, should I pick burton escapade est (or lexa est) medium or large ? As you can see, I prefer not to switch binding and have my boards ready to go 🙂 thanks for taking the time to help me out 🙂
Hi Catherine
I definitely get that – I prefer to have my boards ready to go too. If one isn’t bound up I’m far less likely to want to take it out, even if it is a fairly quick process – I think it’s a psychological barrier!
In terms of sizing. I prefer to go to the smaller size when I’m on the cuff between two sizes. I don’t think there’s a wrong call there, but medium is what I would be leaning towards.
Between the Lexa and the Escapade, I actually think the Lexa is probably the better call for the Feelgood (assuming it’s the Feelgood you’ll be putting them on?). The Lexa are that little bit stiffer than the Escapade and will give that little more drive for a board like the Feelgood. Both would work for sure, but I would actually be leaning towards the Lexa in this case.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I am sorry if this is a duplicate but it doesn’t look like my original comment posted. I am ordering a full new set up. It’s been about ten years, maybe a little more since I got new gear. I am ordering from Burton because I can receive the performers discount through them. I am 5’4″ and fluctuate between 140-150lbs. I ride goofy stance mostly although sometimes I’ll switch during a run just to play and I’d say I am an advanced rider although now that I am older I’m doing more all mountain free ride type of riding vs jumps etc because I don’t want to risk a major injury. I’ll go over little “bumps” for a tiny bit of air (Haha) but thats about it. After speaking with a Burton guide I decided on a women’s Burton Feelgood Camber 149, womens Escapade EST bindings in Medium and Felix BOA size 8 boots. When I received the boots and wore them around the house awhile they are good length wise but pretty tight width wise so I am planning to exchange them for an 8.5 in boots. When I called burton back, I spoke with two different guides who gave me conflicting information. One said I did not need to also change my bindings to a Large binding and the other said that I did. So now I am confused and want to make sure I have the best set up while I still have time to make returns/exchanges. The website size chart also says that a medium binding work up to size 8 but that I need a Large for 8+ size boots. What are your thoughts? Would that also cause an issue with my board size? Would I need to go up to a 152 for that as well?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi Wendy
Thanks for the messages. I got the other one, but I’ve deleted it, just so there’s no double ups. I moderate all comments before they’re published, which is why you wouldn’t have seen it posted initially.
Firstly, I wouldn’t go up to the 152, just to accommodate for bindings, if it’s not the right size for you. And in my opinion the 152 would be too big. The 149 is a good size for you, so that would be the last thing I would change.
Thankfully I don’t think you will have any issues with riding the 8.5 Felix Boa in the Medium Escapades. It’s not a combination that I’ve specifically seen together, but in my experience with men’s burton boots and bindings and with their sizing, you should be good there. But if you are worried about it and exchange up to an L for the Escapades, it should fit fine on the 149 anyway. So the safe bet would probably be to go to a L binding, but I think the 8.5 will likely fit in the M. But even if you do go to an L Escapade, you won’t need to go the 152 to accommodate for it. Burton bindings don’t have particularly long base plates, so very unlikely you’d have any issues there. Even Burton themselves recommend either M or L for both the 146 and 149, so the L should definitely be fine on the 149.
Hope this helps
This definitely helps. Thank you so much, Nate!
You’re very welcome Wendy. Thanks for visiting the site!
Hey Nate,
I just got a Ride Berzerker 156, have DC Judge boots size 9 and am trying to find a good binding setup. I ordered the Ride El Hefe medium (says it will fit up to a size 9 boot) but the footbed seems small for the Judge. I have a 1″ overhang on front and back. However, the footbed is close to the width of the board already. Wondering if i should upsize to a large binding or go a different route? Any advice is appreciated!
Thanks!
Hi Tyler
Thanks for your message. Boots typically overhang the footbed on bindings, so 1″ front and back overhang of boots over bindings is perfectly fine. Typically you want a little boot overhang over the edges of the board, but you don’t want binding overhang, so it’s natural to have some boot overhang over the edges of the bindings – that’s normal, so I wouldn’t be worried about that.
Berzerker is quite a narrow board, so I’m not surprised that the medium’s are close to the width in this case. Typically mediums wouldn’t be that close, for a regular width board, but the Berzerker is narrower than normal. But if you’re looking at slightly less than 1″ overhang over the edges of the board, then it should be fine in terms of overhang of boots over board as well.
Hope this helps
Hallo there Nate – your website has become my ‘goto’ for snowboarding info – it’s comprehensive, has great cross references, and everything you say makes sense. Fantastic work!
I’m a smallish guy (5’7″, 150 lbs) with big feet (US 10.5). Joking aside, I’ve boarded for nine seasons now, and I ride mostly on piste reds, often carving and switching for fun, with occasional offpiste forays, but never the park. I fancy a Jones Mountain Twin – you gave it a good review – and on your snowboard length chart you recommend 154 cm for my height and weight. Now, the JMT come in 154, and also a 155W. I notice that on your binding size chart, I could need either a Medium or a Large binding for my foot size; it varies from one make to another.
Should I look for a binding make where a Medium binding will take my 10.5 boot, and then I can go with the 154 board? You seem to suggest that a Large binding usually needs a Wide board, and that would mean the 155W JMT – both longer and wider. I’m 58 years old, so I’d rather err on the side of the smaller board!
Hi David
Thanks for your message.
It really depends on the binding brand. Some brands Large would be too long for the 154 Mountain Twin, but others would be fine. Some Union bindings and NOW bindings (and others, but those are the ones off the top of my head) have quite long baseplates, where going with Large would be risky. But something like Burton or Flux (again there will be others but those off the top of my head). If you have a particular brand and model that you’ve narrowed down to, I can give you my opinion as to how they would fit your boots and the 154 Mountain Twin.
In terms of the 154 Mountain Twin being wide enough, I would say it probably is. It’s quite wide at the inserts vs the waist. Usually I would say a 250mm waist would be pushing it for 10.5s, but I think you get away with it on the Mountain Twin. The width at inserts (assuming a 560mm stance) would be roughly 263mm at the inserts. That’s still on the narrower side for 10.5s, but depending on some factors, I think you would be fine. But if you could let me know your boot’s brand and rough model year. Plus if you can let me know the binding angles you ride at. That would really help.
But yeah, certainly you should get every brand’s medium bindings on the 154 Mountain Twin, I would say – and in a lot of cases you’ll also fit the Large on there. But some large bindings will be too long for it. If you want my opinion for individual bindings (if it’s one that I’ve measured), let me know the particular bindings you’re weighing up.
Hope this helps
Hallo Nate, and thanks for replying! I have Ride boots size 10.5 (Deadbolt I think) and was looking at Burton Cartel Medium bindings (also on your recommended list for All Mountain Freestyle bindings) which go up to size 11.
So far I’ve always set my hire kit to +18 and -15, which I find great for all round riding. From what you’re saying, with those angles, the Burton Mediums should be OK on the JMT 154 (assuming the boots fit in:) )
Hi David
Yeah for sure the Burton Cartel medium would be all good on the JMT 154. And with ride 10.5s, I would say you’ll be fine in terms of fitting into Burton Medium bindings. I’ve worn 10.5s in Burton medium before and fit fine. And Ride boots are lower profile than the average boot, so I imagine you shouldn’t have any issues there.
Hey Nate, thanks! I’m just amazed at your encyclopaedic knowledge! Do you have any free time after snowboarding and patiently answering all these questions? Respect!
You’re very welcome David.
I live and breathe snowboard gear! For sure. During the season (which has unfortunately been cut short this year), definitely very engulfed in snowboarding, testing gear and working on the website (and some time for my kids of course!)
Recommendation for burton escapade bonding size for a women’s never summer infinity 142 for someone with a size 6 boot?
I know burton’s sizing lists a small and a medium would one be better than the other in a case like this?
Hi Danielle
Thanks for your message.
I haven’t specifically measured the Medium Escapade, but I’m pretty confident (based on measuring other Burton bindings (mostly men’s Mediums)) that the M would fit fine on the 142 Infinity. There is some advantage to going with the bigger size, in that you get a longer base plate, which gives you a little more leverage on the edges of the board.
In terms of boots, you could go either S or M, like you say. However, depending on the boots, the M might be the safer bet. If you have Burton boots, then S will be fine, but for some brands, they may not fit in the S that well, depending on the boot shape etc. So, that would be another reason to lean M, if you don’t have Burton boots. Going S would give you a snugger fit (assuming your boots fit) boot-wise, but I would say they would fit well in Ms anyway, and based on everything else, I would be leaning towards M for you.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I have size 7.5 Solomon Synapse Boots on Union Falcor Size M Bindings. Unions size chart says S=5-8 M=7-10. I have adjusted heel cup to the smallest setting, my toe slightly hangs over, my heel about an inch (i cant get it any more centered). I ride a 158 Jones Flagship
I bought these boots and bindings at the same time, I feel like I have trouble initiating toeside turns in tight trees. Since my 7.5 boot size is a border size, would going with Small bindings (having more overhang on both sides) improve turn initiation?
Thanks,
Scott
Hi Scott
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, if you’re boots aren’t overhanging the toe edge much at all, then it’s likely that your actual feet are quite far inside that toe edge. Certainly makes it harder to initiated that toeside turn. Hard to say whether going for the Small size would completely alleviate that, but I suspect it would help. Unfortunately with the mini disc on the Falcor, it’s not something that you can run vertically (which would allow you to move the binding itself closer to the toe edge). But yeah, overall having more overhang on the toe side would help with toeside turn initiation. The closer to the edge your feet are, the easier it will be to turn.
Hello,
I recently purchased new Flow Omni binding and wear a size 6 in women’s boot. So, I have the medium size binding (the smallest offered, stating they work for size 6!). The boot, however, is slightly shorter than the binding, so the binding is past the toe of my boot by about a half inch (maybe a little less). Is this ok?
Hi Darcy
Thanks for your message.
Typically your boots would overhang your bindings. And part of the reason that’s the case is that you get better leverage on bindings when your boots are overhanging them slightly. So being inside the edges of the bindings isn’t ideal. So, technically they fit size 6, but maybe not the ideal fit in terms of leverage. Another reason that boots typically overhang the bindings is that your boots will typically overhang the boards edges, but you don’t want your bindings to be overhanging the boards edges.
I don’t currently test flow gear, so I’m not that familiar with their bindings, but yeah typically your boots would overhang the bindings a bit – on both the toe and heel side. Do the bindings overhang your board’s edges?
Wearing size 11 Nike boots and looking at the 2020 GNU Psych bindings. Should I get the Large or X-Large? Also I’m riding on a 157 Horrorscope. I think the width is like 258 cm. Thank you.
Hi Christian
Thanks for your message.
GNU bindings aren’t something that I test currently, so I couldn’t say for sure. Nike boots weren’t that low profile, so I would probably be leaning towards the XL, but I’m not sure what boots GNU models their bindings on.
In terms of with the board, I’m not sure since I’ve never message GNU bindings so I’m not sure about the length of their baseplates. I would assume that L would fit on that board easy and XL is reasonably likely to as well, but no guarantees. If anyone else owns GNU bindings and knows how long they are, feel free to chime in.
Hope this somewhat helps
Hey Nate, i have burton ‘19 imperials and i ride with a stance angle of -12+12, i was thinking of pairing the malavitas in a large with the yes greats 156 which has a mid width of 25.9cm, curious to hear your thoughts on toe/heel drag etc?
Hi Steve
Thanks for your message. The Greats is wider at the inserts vs the waist than the average board, so it does give you more leeway in terms of fitting on the board. The large Malavitas will fit fine on there, and be a good fit. In terms of for your boots, if you could let me know your boot size, that would be great.
I want to get a board and bindings for my son. He is 6’2″ and 185lbs. I know he needs the 162 Wide board but I am not sure about the bindings. He wears a size 13 boot (sometimes 14 depending on the boot. He wanted Burton Bindings but the say to get large for 10+. I am just concerned that it won’t fit size 13/14
Hi Lori
Thanks for your message.
I couldn’t say for sure as I haven’t personally tried fitting a 13 or 14 into a large Burton binding, but I imagine that you would be fine. There are a lot of adjustments you can make to Burton bindings, so you should be able to dial them out to fit 13s/14s. Also, Burton make boots up to size 15, and it would be unlikely they would make boots that didn’t fit in their bindings.
Have you thought about the type of board and bindings? Size is important but also type. If you’re not sure let me know and I would be happy to give you some recommendations.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I recently bought a new pair of Burton snowboard boots, size 6 in women’s. I see on the size chart I can go for either S or M Burton bindings. Is there a preference for sizing down or up on bindings?
Thanks!
Kate
Hi Kate
Thanks for your message.
You would be fine with both of course. But I personally prefer to go for the smaller size when I’m on the cuff personally. I prefer the fit. For Burton bindings I go for medium (men’s 10). I can also ride Large, but I prefer the fit of the medium. One upside of going for the longer size, is that it can help to give you more leverage on a board, due to the longer footbed (provided it’s not too long for the width of the board). So there are pros and cons for both, but personally I like to go smaller when on the cuff.
Hope this helps with your decision
Nate,
I have a Ride Machete 159w with size 11 Solomon Synapse Focus Boa boots. I am looking at the Flow NX2 Fusion, but my boot size is right on the border of Large and XL. What are your thoughts as to which size to buy?
Thanks for your help!
Hi Sean
Thanks for your message.
I haven’t ridden flow bindings in a long time, so I can’t give you firsthand experience there. But since you have Salomon Synapse, which aren’t the most low profile boots going around, I think the safer bet would be to go for the XL. Although looking at it the L goes to 11.5, so you’d probably be fine in the L actually, even with longer boots. Like I say I don’t know from experience, but with other binding brands, I find that I prefer the smaller size, if I’m on the cuff. It’s likely that both would be fine for you. The XL the safer bet to be sure, but the L is what I would go for typically (with other brands if I was in your position).
Hope this helps/makes sense!
One more thing in regarding my first question here. My snb size is 154, if that helps …
Hi Robert
Since Burton bindings, even in large, don’t have hugely long baseplates when the gas pedal isn’t extended at all, having a large Burton binding on a 154 (depending on the width, but in most cases) would be fine – but the Medium would likely fit your boot better, IMO. Nothing stopping you from using a large, so long as you can get the straps properly tightened, but I think the Medium is the better option still.
Hi Nate,
I would like to ask you if would be a bad idea to use L size (Burton Custom) binding for US 9 size boots (Salomon) …? I have also M size (Burton Mission) binding, but just would like to make sure L size would be ok as well or better to get rid of that L size …?
Cheers
Hi Robert
With US9s I would say go with the Medium. Even though Salomon’s footprint is longer than Burton’s boots footpring (and their binding sizings are based on their boots) – I still think the Medium is going to work better with Salomon 9s. I ride low profile 10s, and I definitely prefer the Medium over the Large for Burton bindings. It would likely work – I would say you could probably get the straps tightened over the boot at one of the shorter settings – and the base plate on Large Burton’s isn’t that long, if you have the gas pedal all the way in (i.e. not extended) – but the Medium will likely fit your boot better, IMO.
Hope this helps
Hi Anthony,
My board is sized to my boots UK 6 but 6 is the minimum boot size for the board i.e 6-9. Do you think I should go for bindings that are the same/similar or would a pair that is sized 3-6 be ok? …if that makes sense?!
Hi Kathy
I think I get what you’re saying. So you’ve got a board, and it’s recommended the minimum boot size is a UK6 for it and for bindings you’re on the cuff between two sizes – one size begin small (and fitting size UK3-6) and one being medium (fitting UK6-9). If I have that right – and you can fit either binding size boots-wise, then I would go for the larger binding size – as the base plate will be longer and give you more leverage on the wider board.
But if you could let me know the make model and size of the board you are referring to, the make and model of bindings you are looking at – and the make and model of your boots, then I can give you a more accurate opinion.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate, this is going to sound bizarre, but I went into local shop to buy Salomon Defender’s in a M, (size 9.5/27.5 Deeluxe Original SE w/TFP). However, I walked out of the store (they were fitted and everything) with a Large set (not sure how the mixup happened). I rode on them the next day, and didn’t feel anything out of the ordinary, toe strap did slip off, but may have been related to where I set it. The box suggested a M, but the L seems fine. Should I be noticing anything in a larger binding fit wise, or could the thought of it just be in my head?
Thanks,
AD
Hi Anthony
Thanks for your message.
Whenever I’ve test Salomon bindings, I’ve always had an L (size 10/28.0 Vans boots). So I certainly wouldn’t say that the Large are fine for you with 9.5s. With the toe strap it might be a case, like you say, that you just need to adjust it. But fine is different from best. It might be the case that the Ms fit your boots better. If you don’t feel like your boots are “swimming” in the Ls and there’s nothing strange about how they fit – and the straps tighten as much as you need them, then there probably won’t be any issue. And so long as the bindings aren’t too long for the width of your board as well.
Hi Nate I have a size 8 boot and my friend has a 135 cm board I am borrowing from him will my boots fit?
Thanks, Silas
Hi Silas
Hard to say without more information. Do you know the waist width of the board? If you use binding angles like +15-15, then I would say you could get away with anything as narrow as 235mm at the waist. With a straighter back binding angle, I’d increase that minimum to more like 240mm. But it also depends on the particular board. But generally speaking if you don’t have more than 1 inch of boot overhang on both heel and toe, you should be OK, especially if you aren’t going to be railing carves or anything.
In terms of fitting on the bindings that are on the board, it’s hard to say without knowing the brand/model and size of the bindings.
Hope this helps
I have a salamander boot size of 11, and I was wondering if I should get a large or medium binding size. The binding s that I want are burton, but it says M is 8-11 and large is 10+
Should I get a wide board or not of 155 cm
Thanks, Alex
Hi Alex
Thanks for your message.
I’m not familiar with Salamander boots, so I’m not sure what their length profile is like (some boots are longer than others on the outersole compared to the inside of the boot). If it’s a longer profile than Burton boots (which is relatively likely, given Burton are quite low profile), then I would say go large for Burton bindings – as their sizings are based on their boots. And even if they have a low profile they will still be suitable for Large.
In terms of boards, it’s a tough call with 11s. It’s kind of on the cuff. In a lot of cases it’s better to go wide with 11s, but it depends on a few factors. a. the particular board b. the length profile of the boot and c. the binding angles that you prefer to use (if known), among other things, but these are the main ones. If you’re not sure, then better to go wide, but if you have a particular board in mind, and know your binding angles, then I can give you a more accurate recommendation. Even better if you can also measure the length of your boots (I do it by placing the heel against a wall and then measuring from the wall to the longest point on the toe of the boot).
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I’m looking to get some Now bindings but am not sure about fitment. Let’s assume I wear a size 14 low profile boot. Let’s also assume I wear salomon’s which run more narrow (at least on the inside). Any idea if I can fit in to Now’s Hanger 1.0 or Hanger 2.0 binding in a large? Their website says the large range is size 10-13 but I have hope with a low profile boot.
Thanks,
Pax
Hi Paxton
I don’t currently test Now bindings, so I couldn’t say for sure, but I imagine that a low profile 14 would fit, if they’re rated up to a 13. But Salomon aren’t typically low profile, so whilst they might fit in, in terms of width, they might be too long to be ideal for it. But like I say, I don’t test them currently so I’m not familiar enough to say for sure.
Hi there Nate!
32 Lashed boots size 7.5 (EU 40) with Burton Cartels 2019 M. Here’s a photo https://imgur.com/a/ZbjKReI
You think I should switch to the Size S Cartels? The gas pedal is all the way back and I think I have room for adjustments, but I’m having second guesses here because of the little overhang in front. Board is a 2019 Capita Outerspace. I’ve been snowboarding for 20 years straight.
Thanks in advance!
Hi Nuno
Thanks for your message.
From what I see there, that’s certainly doable, but also not ideal. Ideally you would want your boots overhanging the gas pedal a little more. You want the contour of the boot to kind of go with the gas pedal, if that makes sense. You might have trouble getting even toe and heel overhang on the board in that situation. Have you tried mounting on the board yet?
I think the S would be fine and if you went with that you can always extend the gas pedal, which you would likely need to do with an S. I think I would try for the S in this case. The M won’t be undoable, but the S might work better.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi,
Looking for some advice.. I have a size 10.5 US (10 UK) Adidas Tactical ADV and I can’t decide between Large or Medium Union Strata binding.
Union size chart puts me in a Large. I know I can adjust the heel cup, but foot bed is huge and not really much shorter than my entire boot sole length, and has a slight overhang on my board with a 257 waist (underside of binding is a mm or two over top sheet on toe edge, so with the slanted shape, the top of the foot bed hangs over a fair bit)
Not sure if I should look at Medium, or perhaps go back to Burton binding (probably Cartel) which I presume will also put me in a large, but with adjustment on the gas pedal..
Thanks
Hi Matt
Thanks for your message.
With a Tactical ADV US10.5, I would go Medium for Union bindings. You shouldn’t have any trouble fitting into it and it would be a better width for your board. I ride 10s and always go Medium for Union, and there’s plenty of leeway, and 10.5 Adidas boots should be no issues there. I have a UK10 Adidas boot as a US11, but either way, you should be fine in the medium.
Union bindings have longer baseplates than most other brands, so the Large size can be problematic on non-wide boards. Burton bindings are almost the opposite. The baseplate length is smaller than most. So even the Large Burton bindings have quite a short baseplate, especially with the Gas Pedal not extended. So, Large would be your best bet, if you did go Cartel, even though I suspect you would be able to get into a Medium Burton as well (I also ride Medium with Vans US10s). But yeah, I think Large would be your best bet with Burton.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hey Nate,
I’m a mondo 25 (I wear size 8 adidas something-or-others) and I’m looking at the Burton Freestyle bindings. It says M to 8 or L 8+. Should I go the L? They’ll be on a Burton Hideaway 152 (another size I’m not sure about but going with haha. I’m 5 foot 10 and 63kgs). Any advice much appreciated!
Hi Laura
Thanks for your message.
Assuming that’s a men’s US 8 for the Adidas boots (as I don’t think they do women’s specific boots), then for the Freestyle, you could go either Small or Medium (the Freestyle is a men’s binding). If you were to go for a Burton women’s binding, then (again assuming a men’s US8) the Large would be the best bet. If it’s a women’s US8, then it would definitely be the small for the Freestyle (and other Burton men’s bindings) and it would be between the medium and large for Burton women’s bindings.
If you do go with the Freestyle, and it is a men’s US8, then I would be leaning towards the Small, because Adidas boots have a low profile.
But if you can, I would go with a women’s specific binding, just because, they’re designed with a women’s feet/calves etc in mind. The Burton Citizen of Burton Stiletto are really good beginner binding options.
As for the 152 Hideaway, I think that’s a good size for your specs for that board. And the width should be good for size 8 boots too.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Happy New Year! I have Salomon Ivy boots (2007 model) Women size 7.5 and recently upgraded my Salmon board from 2007 to a brand new Capita Bird of a Feathers (2019 model) snowboard size 150. Waist width: 241 Boot size: 7.5
I purchased Burton Lexa bindings (2018 model) size M but now I am questioning the compatibility with the boots and board.
1. The bindings are really tight on my boots and squeeze my boot at the base on each side. I can barely take my boot out of the bindings without being strapped in. It’s scuffing the boot a bit.
2. I adjusted the toe ramp to its maximum length. How much of the boot sole can overhang over the toe ramp?
3. With the toe ramp fully extended, I can’t seem to position the bindings on the board (2X4) in a way that’s balanced and doesn’t create toe overhang. I can’t slide those bindings down toward the heel side of my board at all and keep my angles.
Should I try to return/exhange the Lexa for Union Legacy bindings instead? Should I just upgrade my boots (was looking at Burton Ritual but I would need a size 8 meaning my board should be 152 and not 150. AAAARRRRGGGHHHHH. The conundrum is real! Thanks for any feedback you can provide.
Hey
Thanks for the message.
Salomon boots don’t tend to be the most low profile and I imagine their boots from 2007 would be even less so. If you were to go with Burton Ritual 8s, you shouldn’t have any issues fitting into the Lexa mediums.
You shouldn’t have any issues with getting 8s onto the 150 Birds of a Feather, IMO and you’d have no need to go to the 152. Especially if you went with Burton boots, which are lower profile than Salomon. So a Burton 8 will likely actually be shorter than a Salomon 7. So you shouldn’t have any issues there.
I think your best bet, would be to upgrade your boots.
A little bit of overhang over your boards edge is a good thing – obviously not too much, but up to 2.5cm is fine – so that means you’ll have a bit more than that in terms of overhang over your bindings. With the lower profile Burton boots, I think that should also fix the boot centering issue. No guarantees, but I think it would at least help there.
Hope this helps
hey there!
I currently have an older Burton Genie 150 with a 3 hole pattern, I was just wondering if the 2016/17 burton scribe bindings would work ok? I have size 9 Ride Sage boots and from the chart above, I believe I would be a large in bindings? I’m a little worried about compatibility and don’t want to buy something without an expert opinion so I figured I would check with you! (I’m also 5’8 and 130lbs if this is useful information haha)
thanks in advance 🙂
Abigail
Hi Abigail
Thanks for your message.
Yes, I believe the 2016/17 model is compatible with 3-hole boards, so you should be good there. And Large is your best size too, for Sage 9s.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
Hope all is well! I’m riding with 2014 10.5 ions and a 156 ns funslinger. I’m looking at the 2019 cartels and having a hard time between the medium and large. I’ve read a lot of your responses and seems like you tend to choose the larger size when boots are right on the middle of an overlap between sizes, but I wanted your opinion for this particular setup as I was leaning more toward mediums. What are you thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Ryan
Hi Ryan
Thanks for your message.
I prefer medium for Burton, but I ride 10s and not 10.5s. I prefer the fit. But I can still ride large. Couldn’t say for sure how 2014 Burton Ions would fit in there, but I would imagine they would fit in the mediums, if you like that snug kind of fit. One advantage of going large, is that the baseplate is longer, which can give you more leverage on the edges. For some large bindings you could be risking being too wide for the board, but with Burton Large (the Cartels Large measure just 23.5cm with the gas pedal all the way in), that wouldn’t be an issue.
Also with Large, there would be no risk that they were too small. I would imagine, the mediums would fit, but no guarantees, and if you like that snugger fit, then you might prefer them, but there are some advantages to going for Large.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I wear size 9.5 boots and recently I got a medium Union flite pro bindings. they seem fit ok but I have a question about Union bindings ( I am a beginner and this is my first bindings) that I find the bindings are a bit narrower or snug when I try to strap into.
What I mean is I need to put some forces to strap into the bindings and I can see the sides (the widest front part) and the heel part of the boots are a little bit snug/squeezed. I can even see some marks on the boots caused by the bindings when I unstrap them. I would say the bindings are snug fit and also a bit tight.
Strangely enough I didn’t feel any pain or any pressure point so I am a bit confused right now. is it normal for Union bindings? Like I said I have very limited experiences in boots/bindings settings. I am just curious the compatibility and fitness of boots/bindings from different brands also kinda worried if my boots will be worn out sooner than I expected.
Thanks,
Andy
Hi Andy
Thanks for your message.
I have never had that issue with Union Mediums (I wear 10s). What brand of boots do you have. It might be that the boots have a wider footprints to what I’m used to riding. A snug fit is good, but certainly if it’s too snug and wears on your boots, that’s not ideal. But yeah, I recently rode the Flite Pro with Vans 10s and didn’t have that issue, so I suspect the boots you have are wider.
Also just to confirm, you mean US9.5 right?
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thanks for your reply, you really help people out here.
Yes I wear US 9.5s sorry to forget mentioning that. The brand is HEAD, model is HEAD scout pro, which I bought in Japan last year, it’s a popular brand in Japan.
I think you are right the boots may not be as footprint reduced as you said like other brands and certainly they are not so wide to fit in, sort of in between. I did find out though it is getting easier to strap in after more than a dozen times to strap it in and out, and those marks I mentioned are mostly on the outsoles of the boots. I guess that’s why I don’t feel pain on my feet.
Honestly I kind of like that snug fit feeling, it feels secure. I think I will keep it and see how it goes on the slopes. I can get by those cosmetic things as long as they provide what I need. And sure next time if I need to upgrade my boots I will definitely get a pair of low profile boots. 🙂
The other thing I noticed is that the toe straps are a little short. I’ve adjusted them to be centered and set them to the furthest to strap around the front of the boots. When I tighten it up it takes only 4 or 5 steps to strap it down, will it be ok? or maybe I just didn’t do it right.
Anyway, so so thankful for all the information you provide. I almost literally learn everything about setting up gears from this website. It’s just that I didn’t realize there are so many details to consider about, but I do have fun when doing it.:)
cheers,
Andy
Hi Andy
Yeah I think Head boots have a larger outersole. Not a brand that I test but that’s what I’ve heard. That’s probably also the reason why the toe strap feels short. I don’t usually have that issue with Medium Unions. Though, in saying that, 4 or 5 steps should be fine to hold the toe strap in place.
I agree that continuing to wear them and see how it goes. It sounds like the biggest downside is that it could wear on your boots.
Hello Nate,
I just bought contact pro medium without knowing my shoe size(for snowboard),my normal shoe size changes between 9.5 and 10.5 depends on the type of the shoe,and i cant go to try boots atm because i am on a business trip ,should i send the bindings back,or will it fit even if have to buy 10.5 or 11 size boots?
Board=> trs 157 normal wide
Thank you for your answer.
Hi Sean
Thanks for your message.
I would say medium is probably going to be your best bet. For 10s, I would usually recommend medium for Union bindings and for most boot brands 10.5 would be fine and some 11s would fit in there too. I imagine if your shoe size is between 9.5 and 10.5, that your snowboard boot size is unlikely to be 11. I would imagine it’s more likely to be 10. And for a regular width TRS, the medium would be a good fit. The Large could potentially even be a little too wide for it, as Union large bindings have quite a long base plate on them.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
I have an old pair of Burton size 10 snowboard boots–I have a Lib Tech TRS 157 MW. I am looking to get the Union Falcor bindings. I know I am right on the cusp and I don’t know if I should go bigger or smaller. I am 25 and have been riding since I was 5 (advanced) and I love all mountain and park (pretty much all over the mountain) but i’m more geared towards all mountain/powder these days. Should I go Medium or Large?
Thanks
Hi Alex
Thanks for your message. I saw your other messages too. The website should tell you that it’s gone through but that the comment has to be moderated but it doesn’t appear to be working. Something I’m looking into. Apologies, that you didn’t get confirmation.
I also wear 10s, and I’ve always preferred Medium for Union bindings. And with Burton boots, I think that would be the best way to go. It should be a good fit for the 157MW TRS too. Union bindings tend to be longer than most in the base plate, so even the Medium should fit well on that board, IMO.
Great binding choice, by the way!
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi Nate,
Love the article, really helpful in choosing ones gear.
I have a quick question about GNU Freedom bindings. I have a Salomon boot listed on the boot as US size 11.5 (EU 44.5) and wanted to pair this with the GNU bindings. This puts me just over the L size and into XL. However, I seem to find different sizing charts all across the internet for GNU Freedom bindings, on their own website it lists L as US size 10 – 12 while in some other websites I have found L to be 8 – 10 and XL 11 – 13.
Would XL be a safer bet in this case? I ride a Jones Mountain Twin 162 with normal profile.
Thanks a lot!
Hi Davis
Thanks for your message.
I just looked at their website and it seems they have changed their sizing there (last I looked it had what is on the table on this page). Unfortunately I don’t have any hands on experience with GNU bindings – I’ve just included them here for convenience. Some websites I’m looking at still have the sizings that used to be on the GNU website, but they may have just not updated – either that or the website sizings are a typo.
The GNU Freedom and Psych used to (or maybe still do?) have different sizings than the Cheeter. It seems now (according to the GNU website) that the Freedom and Psych have adopted the same sizings as what the Cheeter had.
What makes me lean towards the GNU website having a typo is that they list an S, M and L in the sizings for the Freedom and Pysch but have M, L, and XL sizes available. The Cheeter comes in S, M & L sizes. So, it might be that they copy/pasted the sizes from the Cheeter and forgot to edit them?
I have messaged GNU for confirmation, so I can correct the charts here, if necessary. You could do the same, or reply to this comment in a couple of days, and I can let you know what they say.
Hope this helps
Hi Davis
I got this reply from GNU:
“The Sizing has changed slightly, yes. The Website is correct”
Which didn’t clear up the sizings, given that they have M, L & XL for the Pysch and Freedom but the sizings on their website are for S, M & L. So I’m not sure if it means that:
M:4-7
L:7-10
XL: 10-12
Or if rather it means:
M: 7-10
L: 10-12
XL: ??
I have asked for clarification but it’s still not clear to me.
Hi Nate,
Thanks a lot for the help. I think GNU themselves are a bit confused about the sizing.
I decided to go the old fashion route and drove up to a store that had a pair of GNU Freedom’s to have a look myself. The packaging listed the size for L as 9 – 11, however looking inside the box there is a link to their sizing manual online (you can find the manual in their website under support > binding manual). The manual states that the perfect size for L is 9 – 11 but that 8 and 12 can work (they call it “centred by disc/highback”). I tried the bindings with my Salomon 11.5 boot and it fit without any problems (set the binding on my board tweaked a bit and everything worked without a hitch).
So it seems that the perfect sizes for Psych and Freedom are:
M: 7 – 9
L: 9 – 11
XL: 12 – 14
However you can go one size up or down for what they call “centred by disc/highback”
Hope this helps for people looking for more information.
Hi Davis
Thanks for that! Good to know for others looking at GNU bindings. Hope you have an awesome season!
Hi Nate,
I used to ride a Solomon Tempest 162 with large Ride bindings and UK 12 Nitro boots. Since then i have had to go up a boot size to 13 and there does not appear to be a binding/board combo that does not result in major toe overhang, which obviously leads to me face planting as soon as i carve or hit a steep slope. Not ideal!
Are you aware of a combo or maybe a brand that makes larger size 12 boots?
Thanks!
Hi Oli
Thanks for your message.
First of all, I would look at boots with a low profile. So, even if you have to get into a 13, they will have the profile of more like a 12. From my experience (and from the brands that I’ve measured) Adidas is the lowest profile, with Vans Burton and then Ride also good.
The following are wider boards. Which one suits will depend on your style. I will label each as the type of board I would categorize them as below. Also, which size you go with will depend on your height, weight, ability and style of riding. So, if you can let me know those I can recommend a size, if you’re unsure of length.
~ Nitro Magnum – (all-mountain aka do-it-all, aka all rounder, but more oriented towards freeriding than freestyle)
~ Nitro Team – (do-it-all, all-mountain)
~ Bataleon Stallion (aggressive all mountain)
~ Lib Tech Skunk Apes – all-mountain
UK13 is tough to match up, but hopefully you can find something there that’s a little wider.
Thinking a little outside the box, you could also look at a short/wide board, some of which are seriously wide. If you could find one in a longer size, that could work. Or you could look into something custom, if nothing else seems to be cutting it.
Hope this helps
That’s great thanks for the advice.
Well maybe i should look into low profile boots as a starting point and see what kind of size they are, it appears i may have just bought the largest boots ever ha.
I do like Nitro gear though so if i cant find reasonable boots i will start there with my search for a board.
Thanks again!
You’re very welcome Oli. Never a bad call to start with boots. Let me know how you get on, and if you have anything else you want to bounce ideas about.
Will a Burton Mission SI size small fit a 8.5 size boots DC Scout BOA Snowboard Boots?
Hi Alan
I have no experience with Burton’s old Step In bindings, so I’m not sure how those were sized. If they’re the same kind of sizing as current regular Burton bindings, then you’ll possibly get 8.5 DC Scouts in there, but might not be a great fit. Medium Burton bindings would most likely be a better fit for 8.5 DC boots, IMO. But yeah, not sure if that translates to the same thing as Burton’s old Step In bindings?
Hey Nate, I have a size 150 burton custom and size 7.5(euro38 23.5cm) thirtytwo boots,I am looking to purchase the Union Milan Bindings OR Burton Citizen Snowboard Binding,but unions size chart SMALL is 34 – 37.5 MEDIUM 37 – 41
I’m in between sizes should I go with small or medium?
Hi Lena
Thanks for your message.
Go for Medium – in both Burton and Union. Sounds like Medium will fit your boots better and will also be a better fit for your board. The Mediums will cover more of the boards width and as such give better leverage.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
Thank you for continuing to answer these questions!
I am looking to purchase the Arbor Ethos snowboard in either a 144 or 147. I am a beginning snowboarder, 120lbs, 5’6.5”. I haven’t totally dialed in my boot situation, but I am typically a women’s 8.5 or 9. I am having trouble determining which length of board to get based on their widths and whether or not they will accommodate my foot size. I know it is better to get the boots figured out first, but I have obnoxiously narrow feet so it has been a bit of a journey trying to find a beginner boot that will work.
Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!
Hi Jordan
I have replied to the other message that you left on the length sizing post, you can check it out over there. If you don’t see it there, let me know and I can copy that answer to here.
Hi Nate I got a Salomon pulse snowboard 152cm with Salomon boots size UK 8 want to buy Burton bindings but not sure what to get medium or large
Hi Sam
I would go medium with UK8 Salomon’s. Even though Salomon boots do tend to have a longer footprint than Burton boots, I still think with UK8s, that the medium would be the best option.
I’m guessing you already know this, but I like to make sure just in case – make sure you get the Re:Flex model for your Burton bindings, so that they’re compatible with your Salomon board (the EST model will only fit Burton boards).
Hey Nate, I have a size 152 burton process and size 8 burton moto boots, I’m in between sizes should I go with small or medium?
Hi Steven
Given you have Burton boots and are going for Burton bindings then boot-wise you would be fine in either. I prefer going medium over large (10s) but large are still fine to ride for me. Not sure if there’s an advantage to going Small over Medium with 8s.
But in terms of the board, I think the mediums would be a better match. The 152 Burton Process has a 249mm waist width. Given that Burton boards (based on the ones that I’ve measured) tend to be roughly 1.4 times the width at the inserts compared to the waist, I would say that your board is roughly 259mm wide at the inserts (measured on the base side of the board). In that case the Mediums would cover more of the width than the small would, giving you better leverage. For that reason I would go for Medium in your case.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate!
I recently bought a new snowboard and bindings and ran into an issue! I am 5’7″ with a size 10 US womens Flow boot. I just bought a Capita Space Metal Fantasy 149cm board and Burton Stiletto bindings (large). I set everything up and went to strap in to test it out and my boots do not fit in the bindings. The bindings are too narrow and my boot won’t go all the way back. I currently have Avalanche bindings on my old board and when I got the new boots I never had a problem with them fitting. Do you know anything about Burton bindings being more narrow than others and do you know what other brands might work for me better? Thanks for your help!!
Hi Erin
Thanks for your message.
I have noticed with some boots that they don’t fit into Burton bindings in the heel cup properly, even when they fit in the size range, in terms of length. Burton bindings are designed with Burton boots in mind, and some brands’ boots are wider at the heel than Burton boots. I also encountered this with my wife’s size 8s not fitting into Flux small bindings (even though they’re within the range) – because the boots were too wide (DC boots). So I would skip Flux as well, in your case. Although they don’t seem to have a women’s binding for US10. Union fit my wife fine in the heel cup – but they also only go up to 9.
Flow bindings (as they’ll be made to fit flow boots) will fit but you may not want to go for those.
I haven’t noticed any that have particularly wide heel cups (only tend to notice when they’re narrow) – so I’m not sure which brands particularly but Burton do tend to be, in my experience, narrower in the heel.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate, thanks so much for the reply! I was looking at u ion bindings and noticed they only go up to a size 9, do you think that would be a huge problem for me? I’ve also been looking into Rome and they look like they have a wider heel cup but I’m not 100% sure. Thanks for your help.
Hi Erin
You could possibly get into a Union medium. They’re usually relatively conservative with their recommended sizes – but not guarantees there of course.
I don’t have a lot of experience with Rome bindings, so I couldn’t say for sure, but their binding sizing seems to suggest that they do. Certainly it looks like the M/L (if you went Katana) should be large enough if they’re supposed to cater to up to size 12. The other models just seem to come in S/M but it seems as though they are supposed to cater for larger boots (although Rome do specify that anything over 9.5 in the S/M would depend on the brand of boot.
Hello Nate
Great site, I have a quick question. I have Burton snowboard boots, UK size 9.5 (I think US size 10). I’m looking to get a pair of Burton Mission bindings, Should I go for a medium bindings or large?
Thanks
Nick
Hi Nick
I think the UK9.5 translates to a UK10.5 for Burton boots. So, based on that, the Large would be the safer bet. I have heard of people comforatbly fitting into medium Burton bindings with 10.5s, so I think you’d probably be ok in Ms but Ls are a safer choice.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate
Thanks for the reply. Would medium provide a more snug fit? as I’m just thinking that since I’m down the bottom end of the large chart, would there be a lot of binding around my boot? therefore making the medium a better option? I don’t want to ratchet the straps all the way to the end on a large?
Thanks
Nick
Hi Nick
Extremely unlikely that you would ratchet the straps to the end on Burton Large bindings. I’ve ridden Ls with US10s and that’s never been an issue. And Burton boots are designed with Burton bindings in mind – and they’re size recommendations are for 10 & up on large, so no issues there, IMO.
The Ms will be a snugger fit for sure, but the Large aren’t going to have your boots hard out floating or anything. If it helps, here’s a comparison of a Large Burton Cartel and Medium Burton Malavita (outlines).
But yeah with the equivalent of US10.5s, you shouldn’t have any issues fitting into mediums if that’s what you think will be better, especially given that you have Burton boots and Burton’s chart says their mediums fit up to US11. The only thing I would be concerned about if you didn’t have Burton boots would be if the heel of the boot was too wide to fit into the heel cup properly but that shouldn’t be an issue for you.
Both sizes would work but if you like the sound of M more, then you shouldn’t have any issues there.
Thanks 🙂
And thanks for the fantastic drawing! I really appreciate the amount of effort you put in to your answers. I think I’m going to go for the Burton large, then atleast I know that if I change boots in the future, the bindings would still fit.
Thanks
Nick
You’re very welcome Nick.
Hi Nate! I’m looking to buy a used 2011 K2 Moment (women’s). I have size 10 feet and came across a sizing chart on K2’s site that seemed to only include sizes up to 9. Does this mean I won’t be able to ride the Moment even if I get bindings that fit size 10? What size bindings do I need? Thank you!
Hi Alysia
Thanks for your message.
It will depend on a couple of things whether the board is a suitable width for you or not.
In general – I’d say width-wise, for your boot size I would say to look at something in the range of 238 mm to 248 mm in terms of waist width, if you ride with a reasonably angled back binding (i.e. 12-15 degrees) and between 246mm to 252mm at the waist, if you ride with a fairly straight back binding angle (i.e. 0-3 degrees). You can get on something a little narrower if you have lower profile boots (e.g. Adidas, Burton, Ride and Vans).
So depending on which length K2 Moment you are looking to buy, your binding angles and your boot brands, you may or may not be able to get on it. Often a brands recommendations are right – but it depends, as they are trying to allow for all the different factors. If you know more specifics, then you can get more accurate as to which size is likely to be ok.
In terms of binding sizes, it really depends on the brand you go with – for some brands you would be a medium and for others a large. Refer to the table above. If you are in between sizes, and you have a brand that you are interested in, let me know and I can recommend which way to go.
Hope this helps
Be wary of the Rome Targa if you are on the larger end of foot sizes. I just bought a pair of L/XL and they were too narrow to fit my 2017 Size 12 DC Control boots into. I’m used to some variation im length between manufacturers, but this was the first binding I ever bought that was too narrow when I was within the “posted” size range. I thought maybe it was just the boots so I pulled out my old Size 12 Burton Moto boots and same issue, couldn’t fit the boot into the molded base plate between the toe straps. I was surprised that seperate boots from different manufacturers both were unable to fit into the binding when within the stated size range.
Hi Jake
Thanks for the heads up on the Targas. Definitely would have thought their L/XLs should fit size 12s.
Maybe they need to have 3 sizes like most bindings do (and even other Rome Bindings do) so the sizes aren’t trying to span too great a boot size range.
Hi, thanks for the instruction. I am wearing a boot sized US 10.5 but struggle to choose between a M or L size Union bindings. I prefer to wearing smaller bindings because that could help me avoid drags, but wondering if the current Union M will work for me since that change M size for 7-10. Thanks a lot!
Hi Donald
Thanks for your message.
As far as I am aware Union just changed their sizings and not that there any drastic changes to the bindings themselves (they didn’t feel any different to me in terms of fit in 10s anyway). So I’m not sure if maybe they had complaints from some people in 11s or 10.5s that weren’t fitting the mediums well and they decided to change it for that reason maybe?
I would say it also depends on what brand (and year) boot you’re riding. If it’s a recent season’s Adidas, Vans, Burton or Ride, then you are probably going to be fine in the Medium Union, I would say. They all have a smaller outersole. But if it’s another brand, then it’s more risky.
Hope this helps
Nate,
I am wearing a Burton so it might be fine. Thanks a lot for your advice. It is very helpful!
You’re very welcome Donald. Definitely improves your chances, given that you’re in Burtons. No guarantees but I’d say you’d be fine in a Medium Union with Burton 10.5s.
Hi!
I’ve just bought a Jones Mountain Twin 158W, which has a waist of 258 mm, and I’ve got a some old size US 11 Burton Freestyle boots. I am considering to buy some smaller boots though because they feel a bit big. If so I think I’d end up with boots size 9,5 or 10 (on normal shoes i wear a size 10).
Now to my question: I’ve been looking at Union Contact pro, Union Force and Burton Cartel bindnings and i am wondering which size you think I should go for, M or L?
Thanks!
Hi Joakim
Assuming you end up in 10s, then I would personally go for medium for both Union and Burton. But you have the option to go for either medium or large for both brands. I’ve spoken to some people who wear 10s who prefer Burton and Union Large, but I personally like to go for the smaller option.
Which brand boots you end up in can make a difference too. If you end up in something low profile (like Adidas, Burton, Vans or Ride) then I’d certainly say medium. But if you ended up in something like K2 or Salomon, then large are probably better. DC & Thirty Two, somewhere in between.
For 9.5s I would say Medium regardless of brand of boot – though if you did go K2, Salomon, DC or Thirty Two you would be fine to fit into a Large, I would say.
But if you end up in 10.5s, then mostly likely large is the best bet. If you end up getting the Burton bindings, and you’re in a low profile boot, then you could still go medium but otherwise large for both.
So best way to go is to get boots first and then decide. But if you can’t get boots first, then I would go with Large, just because I think you’ll more likely be in a 10 and regardless of boot brand you’ll be safer to go with a large.
Hope this helps
Thank you very much for that fullfilling answer!
Just a follow up question: The board I’ve had for a long time (since I was about 14 i’m guessing, and i’m 27 now hehe) is a Crazy Creek Ultimate 150 with Crazy Creek P9 Alu size M bindings and i’m having trouble with them being on the small side and above all so short that i feel like I’m almost falling over when i ride because i can put them back far enough on the board. What I’m concerned about is if this is likely to happen with a Burton or Union size M aswell or if they will surely be bigger. Do you have any idea about that?
Thanks again
Hi Joakim
Sorry for the late response – have been testing boards all weekend and today.
I’ve never heard of Crazy Creek bindings unfortunately so I have no idea about their sizings. But binding sizings do vary a lot between brands. I’ve never had the issue you’re describing on Burton or Union Medium bindings – so I imagine Crazy Creek mediums are a good bit smaller. Can’t say for sure, but I can say that I’ve always found Burton and Union to work well with 10s.
Hey man I just reacently bout a 2015 ride machete and got burton cartel bindings is that a good binding for that board? Also I wear a size 9.5 to 10 boots An the bindings are large and didn’t know if that would cause any issues if I wore my 9.5 boots with it?
Hi Josh
Yeah the Cartels are a good pairing for the Machete, IMO.
Ideally I would say Mediums for 9.5s and I even prefer them in 10s. But I think you’ll get away with them in the Large. They should still work. I wouldn’t think 9.5 would be far enough off to cause any issues. Particularly if you end up with a brand of boots that isn’t low profile. Burton’s binding sizings are based on their own boots – which tend to have a reduced sized outersole. Other brands with good reduced footprint are Adidas, Ride and Vans. If you were to go outside those brands in a 9.5 you’d have no issues – but even if you went with one of those brands I would say you’d be fine, but no guarantees.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate!
I have burton ions 7.5 and was wondering if they fit the genesis x in mediums.
I tried the boots in burton missions medium and there didn’t seem to be any issues with strap length.
Would you recommend medium or small still? I’m leaning toward medium but if you recommend small I’ll go with them. Thanks!
Hi Peter
If you didn’t have any issues with getting the Medium Missions, then I’m guessing you’d be fine in the Medium Genesis X but no guarantees.
The safe bet is to go small, since that’s what Burton recommends – and you’re in Burton boots, so that’s what they’re sized for, but if you think you prefer medium and can fit in them, then there’s no reason why not. Personally, I prefer, when I’m right on the cuff of sizes (which I often am) to go with the smaller option (I’m a 10 and with Burton I’m between medium and large but prefer medium) . I just prefer that snugger fit. But I have spoken to others who prefer a bit more room – so go with the larger option. And sometimes people on the cuff like to go with the bigger size for a better fit on their board.
So you’re not locked into going with small, if you can fit in the mediums.
Hope this gives you more info to go off
Thanks Nate! i’ll update you with how the 7.5 fit in the medium bindings!
You’re very welcome Peter.
Look forward to hearing how they fit
The boots fit really well into the medium bindings. After some adjustments, there was still a lot of room on the bindings tightening area to crank down. The adjustability on the bindings are really nice! No issues with the mediums! Thanks again!
Hi Peter
Thanks for the update. Good to hear they are a good fit!
Hi Nate,
I have size 10.5 Burton Moto (2012) boots and want to buy the new Union Atlas 2018 bindings.
Now I don’t know if I need the M or L size binding, because they say the Burton Moto have the reduced size technology.
My board is a Jones Mountain Twin 160 (2017-2018)
Maybe you can help me.
Hi Jeroen
Thanks for your message.
I would say that either size would fit on your board, so it’s down to your boots.
With 10.0 boots, I prefer Union medium bindings. I have boots that have a reasonable amount of reduced footprint but not quite as much as Burton’s. The old Union sizings were 8 to 11 for medium but they now state 7 to 10. So technically you would be outside what they recommend for Mediums. The Large would be the safer bet, but I would say that you would likely be ok to fit into the Mediums, but no guarantees.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I have Burton Felix Boa size 8,5 US (women), my board is a capita birds of a feather 148cm
Should I go for Lexa M or L ?
Thank you !
Hi Laura
I would say that either would fit on the board, and with 8.5s, the Large would be the better option for your boots. Burton’s sizings are based on Burton boots, so with Burton 8.5s the Large would be the better bet, IMO. You might squeeze into the Ms but the Ls are a safer bet.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Ive just brought the capita mercury 161 and was wondering what bindings to go with, if theres any youd recommend. Im size uk 9 and tend to ride mostly all mountain, but hoping to start playing a bit more in the parks. So looking for something for both. Hope you can help?
Hi Luke
Thanks for your message.
For the Mercury I would say something from the following list is best:
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
But if you wanted to get slightly more freestyle oriented bindings then check this out too:
>>Top 5 All Mountain Bindings
I can give you expanded options of both of those lists if needed.
I have a size 10 DC control duo boa 2017.
Wanted to get the 2047/18 Burton custom binding and wandering if for size 10 I should get the medium or large?
Hi Tomer
I would go for the Medium with 10s. I prefer medium in Burton bindings (and also have 10s). I can ride Large as well but I prefer the snugger fit of the Ms. If you think you’d prefer a roomier fit, then go L, but otherwise go M, IMO.
Hi Nate,
Thanks for taking the time to answer all these questions! I have size 8 Burton Women’s Limelight’s and am thinking of getting a 149cm Jones Airheart board. Now I’m not sure whether to get size M or L in either the Burton Lexas or Escapades. Could you please help?
Hi Candace
Thanks for your message.
Since you are right on the cuff (and have Burton boots, which the bindings are sized for) then you can really go either way in terms of the boots.
Either should work with the width of the Airheart too – with the Ms you will likely need to adjust the toe ramp out most of the way and with the Ls you’ll probably have the toe ramp most of the way in.
I ride 10s and in the men’s Burton bindings I prefer Ms (which is men’s sizes 8-11 and large is 10+) – so I prefer to go on the smaller option – but I like that snug fit. Others I’ve talked to have said they prefer a bit more space. If in doubt, I’d say go M – but both should work fine.
Between the Lexas and the Escapades. There’s not a hug difference there – but for the Airheart I would be leaning towards the Lexas.
Hope this helps
Nate, this is great. Thanks so much!
You’re very welcome Candace!
Hi Nate,
I have Burton Size 8 MENs boots. I want to buy a burton board that comes with large salomon bindings.
Would these bindings be too big for the size 8 boots? Or would I be able to get away with it.
Board is 155 W and Large Salomon Force Bindings.
Thanks!
Hi Michael
Thanks for your message.
I definitely wouldn’t recommend size 8s in Large Salomon bindings. Your boots would be swimming in there – and the strap lengths may not work properly for you – and you might find it difficult to properly center your boots on the board for even heel and toe overhang. Also, I think a 155W is going to be too wide for size 8s. I don’t know the exact board you’re looking at – but I can’t think of a wide board that would be suitable for size 8s.
Hope this helps
Hello Nate
I am 5’7″ and 145lb with the DC control snowboard boots US10. (I am not sure but DC boots seems to be smaller than other brands because I usually wear US9 on Nike running shoe).
Recently, I am thinking about buying my first set of snowboard and binding.
About the board, ride wide life is my choice. Ride Wildlife
Is the length 154cm most suitable for me?
About the binding, I am considering flux XF. But I am not sure which size fits me better because my boots (DC US10) seems to be at the cusp between M(7 – 9.5 (25CM – 27.5CM)) and L(9 – 12 (27CM – 30CM)).
Could you please help give me some suggestion based on my information?
Thank you very much.
Hi Frank
Thanks for the message.
I am the same with DC boots. I’m usually a US10 for boots but for DC boots I’m a 10.5. So not a whole size up but they definitely run a little small, in my experience.
Assuming you’re a reasonably advanced rider, I would say that something around 153, 154cm would be a good length for you for that board. If you are more of a beginner, I would go for the 151. Both boards are on the narrow end for 10s. But I think you will be fine. If you have a really straight back binding angle (o degrees, 3 degress or something like that), then it might be pushing it to be a little narrow but otherwise shouldn’t have any problems on either size.
Even though DC boots run a little small, I’d still say that the Large for Flux XF is the best bet for you. You might squeeze into the M but there’d be chance that you wouldn’t. The Large is the safest bet – and will work fine with your boots and will fit fine on the waist width of either of those sizes. I have Large flux DSs (different base plate to the XF but if anything it will be longer) and it’s 24.5cm with the toe and heel ramps all the way in. So should be no problem on the Wild Life in those sizes and the better fit for your boot, IMO.
Hope this helps
Im looking to buy vans boots in a size 8 and would like to fit them in the bent metal transfer bindings.
Bent metal bindings say S (5-8) and M (8-11).
Which size bindings would you recommend as both say size 8?
Hi Mike
Thanks for your message.
You should be able to fit into Small and Medium Bent Metals. Usually, I like to go for the top of the smaller range – i.e. for you that would mean going for the Smalls. There is a great risk of your bots not fitting in there properly, but if they do fit, I prefer that snugger fit and find, depending on the board, that it’s easier to even up toe and heel overhang with the smaller options.
I ride 10s and have only tried Medium Bent Metal bindings and I’m not on the cuff the same as you, so I couldn’t say for sure, but I’d say you should fit in the smalls, and if you do, then that’s the way I would go.
Hope this helps
I’ve got a pair of size 11 US Burton Photons, and am looking at Burton Mission bindings. According to the size chart, I could fit into either the M or L sizes. Which would you recommend?
Hi Frank
For 11s I would recommend Ls. It’s a safer bet when you’re on the limit there. I ride 10s and do prefer the Ms but can ride Ls. For 11s, I would say Ls is the better size.
Hope this helps
Do you know if a sapiant Mason boot size 11.5 will fit in a M3 Rockstar M/L binding? That M/L sizing is throwing me a loop. Great read by the way…
Hi Thomas
I don’t have any experience with Sapiant or M3 gear, so I couldn’t say for sure. But I’d say that 11.5s should fit their M/L bindings. I’d say they’d be too big for their S/M. It was also hard to find any info on this – they don’t seem to have any boot size recommendations for their bindings on the M3 website, which is strange. But from what i could find those bindings only come in S/M and M/L and the S/M is supposed to be for sizes 7-10 and the M/L for sizes 10 and up.
Based on that I would say that 11.5s would be fine in the M/L but as I say I have no experience with these brands, so no guarantees.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate, just one quick question for u. I own 32 Boots JP walker model, size 11. I’m planning to buy Union contact pro bindings 2017, but I’m not sure should i take M or L size? What do you think? Thanks!
Hi Edin
I think large are the best option for you. I ride 10s and I prefer the Mediums, but I think for 11s, the Large will be better and I’ve heard of rider’s in 11s saying that Union fit better large. 10.5 it would be hard to say what’s better, but for 11s, I would go Large.
Hope this helps
Men’s ThirtyTwo Lashed size 10.5 and 2017 Rome Katana size M/L. Debating exchanging for an L/XL.
I moved the heel hoop all the way back, and I pretty much maxed out the length of the straps and I get about a quarter down the ladder for the toe strap and a little less than halfway down the strap on my heel straps. Mind you, this is with my boots not on my feet. I might not get as many clicks when I put my boots on. But it seems as if the straps will barely be okay, it’s just bugging me that they’re maxed out.
My main issue is with how the boot hangs off the footbed. I know it’s good to have some overhang, but it seems like it’s a little too much.
I e-mailed Rome, and they said they would “probably encourage” me to move up a size. But then I posted on snowboarding forum with pictures of my setup and 3 out of 4 responses said it looks perfectly fine.
I can exchange for L/XL no problem, but the M/L are sold out now- so if I exchange, there’s no going back.
I just want a definitive answer on if it’s better to be on the biggest limit of smaller bindings, or on the smallest limit of bigger bindings.
Hi Kenny
Thanks for your message.
Usually I like to go on the smaller size, when I’m between sizes. So I’m a size 10 and for the likes of Burton and Union, I prefer to go Medium. But for Flux (which I’m also on the cuff for I prefer Large. For Rome Katana, I would prefer M/L but I’m not sure if I would if I had a 10.5.
For the straps, the most important thing is that the straps are centered – but if they are centered and then you’re maxing out the straps, then that could be an issue – but that would be strange if that was happening.
In terms of overhang – overhang is fine, like you say but like you also say, you don’t want too much – you want some of your boot to be on the footbed! If you can send me a link to the snowboarding forum page with the pics, it will be easier to make an assessment. Also some pics of the straps done up would be good too, if not already there.
So yeah, I generally find it better to be on the bigger limit of smaller bindings rather than the smaller limit of bigger bindings, but it can depend on brand and on boots.
Hope this helps
I wear a size 12 burton boot and ride a Medium Wide 158 Arbor Element. I’m wanting to get the Ride Revolt bindings. I meet the specs for both Large (8-12) and XL (11-15)
Which do you recommend?
Thank you
Hi Phillip
I’d say you would be fine on both. Ride boots are low profile like Burton’s are so their sizings will take into account that low profile-ness of your Burton boots. That’s not to say that they size the same on the inside – but I think you would be fine.
But If I had to choose I would probably say XL – just because 12 is what they consider the Max size for their Ls and 12 is the second size up for their XLs. But that would be my only real deciding factor.
Both bindings should fit on your board, I would imagine. Some brands label their boards “mid-wide” and others “wide” but they are just labels e.g. Jones’s Mountain Twin 158W is narrower than the 158MW element. I think Rome also labels Mid-Wide but it’s not really accurate – they don’t label anything as “wide”.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate
I have a pair of Burton ion boots size US 11, and looking at the Burton malavita. What size would you choose?
M or L. (Always used a mission size large)
Thanks
Jesper
Hi Jesper
You could probably squeeze into the Mediums but I would go for Large if I was you. With US10s I prefer medium but it is a snug fit on 10s (all be it not in boots that aren’t as low profile as Burton boots). Burton’s binding sizing is based on Burton boots, so it takes into account the low profile nature of Burton boots.
So yeah, I think you’d be ok in either, but Large would be the safer bet.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate!
I have US women size 8 ride cadence boot. I ordered medium burton escapades but am concerned bc the chart has medium 6-8 and large 8+.
My board is a 153 Rome crail.
Should I have gotten larges?
Thanks!
Katie
Hi Katie
You should be fine with the mediums. Since you have 8s, you are right on the cuff, where both should fit. Burton’s sizing does take into account the low profile nature of their boots so certain brands 8s, you would want to go large, but Ride also have low profile boots, so you should be ok – so long as the boots aren’t too old.
The Large might fit better on the 153 Crail (as in would get closer to the edges) but the mediums will still fit, there will just be a larger gap between the end of the binding and the edge of the snowboard.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
Thanks for the feedback! So I have been riding since I was about 11 years old, I’m 21 now and would consider myself an advanced rider. I live on the East Coast and my home mountain is Mt. Snow. I spend a majority of that time riding the trails and finding out where the best tree lines are and where I can go really fast without hitting someone. I love to ride powder, we just don’t get it as frequently as the West Coast. Any storm that comes I try to hit it that morning and find all the best back country lines. But powder is not something I ride every day. As for park and rails, I hit the jumps and basic rail set ups, got in a crazy wreck that has left me timid to hit crazy ones. As for jumps, I will hit all the ones at Carinthia except inferno, way to large for me. I have been riding a semi directional board for a couple years now and wanted to change it up to a true twin tip. Hope this helps a little!
Thanks,
Chris
Hi Chris
I think the Assassin or, even better the Assassin Pro, would work well for you. The biggest downside will be in powder – you can still definitely take it in powder but being a true twin, centered stanced board, it will take a bit of effort to keep the nose afloat. But otherwise, I’d say it has all the features you would want.
There’s also the Ultimate Ride but it’s a bit more pricey and likely actually not as good in powder as the Assassin – I haven’t ridden the Ultimate Ride, but just based on the specs.
The other option is the Super 8. This will be better in powder than the Assassin but it’s very much a directional board both in terms of the shape and in terms of the camber profile. It will be better than the Assassin for Powder, Speed and Carving but not as good for jumps, rail switch. And the Assassin (Assassin Pro even more so) isn’t bad for speed and carving.
Ultimate Ride might be a better bet for carving and speed than the Assassin, and better for switch/jumps than the Super 8 – so if you were willing to work hard in powder, that could be an option. Ultimate Ride has directional twin shape and centered stance. The Assassin probably still the best for rails.
Doesn’t give you a definitive answer, but hope it gives you a bit more to go off.
Hey Nate,
Love all the advice and help you have been giving everyone. however I have a couple questions for you. I am a size 10 in boots and currently have been wearing a pair of Burtons for the past few years, I just got a new pair of bindings from salomon, their new 2017 Alibi bindings. They are a size large and I was wondering if you could help me choose the right board, from salomon, got a nice discount I cant give up! But their sizing chart says I need a 157, which I ride right now, for large size bindings, but I wanted to down size to a 154-155 and if you had any sugestions about the right board from salomon. or anything similar to salomon.
Thanks!
Hi Chris
I couldn’t say for sure, but I think you would fit the large bindings on something like the Salomon Assassin 155. It has a 251mm waist width and in my experience with large sized bindings from other brands, this is fine for large bindings.
Actually I also rode the Salomon District 2017 large bindings on the 2017 Huck Knife 155cm and I don’t remember having any problems. They recommend S/M on the 155 Huck Knife but I seemed to be fine on the Large.
The Assassin 155 is slightly narrower than the Huck Knife 155 but I think you’d still be fine there.
So, I think there will be a few options for Salomon boards in that 155 size that will accommodate large bindings, but in order to recommend which board to go for, I’d need a few more details. Can you let me know how/where you like to ride – i.e. powder? carving? park? trick? speed? steeps? trees? etc. and also your ability level. Then I can see which Salomon board would be most suitable for you – and see if they have the size you want and whether or not it’s likely to accommodate Salomon large bindings.
Hi Nate
I have just bought a new snowboard, the K2 WWW (Size 157 Wide), and I am looking to buy the Bent Metal Logic bindings for this board. My boots are burton US size 11, would it be okay to go with a large binding or is medium better ?
Thanks for the help
Nils
Hi Nils
I would go for large for Bent Metals for US11 boots. I actually rode the L Bent Metal transfers last season and they were actually fine for me (I ride US10s) – so I think they would be best for 11s.
Hi Nate
Thank you for the quick answer, i will be trying out the bindings in large then, looking forward to.
You’re very welcome. Hope you have an awesome season and enjoy your new gear!
Hey Nate,
Looking to gear up for this winter, this will be my second season of snowboarding. I took eight weeks of lessons last year and plan to do the same again this year. I plan to get out at least twice a week this season with a couple weekend trips to larger resorts. I am very much a fast progressing rider as I just try and try and try until I get the hang of something. I am currently looking at the Burton Custom Flying V in 166W with a 266mm waist, Large Malavita bindings, but I am hung up on boots, what would you recommend? (looking to stay with burton) My stats are as follows – 6’4″ 240lbs, size 15 boot (US).Thanks for your time.
Hi Brad
Thanks for your message.
I think it’s a good call going with Burton boots as they do have good reduced footprint tech and with 15s, you’ll want a smaller outersole to fit width-wise on the board (Adidas and Ride are also good low profile options but since you want to stick with Burton, they’re a good low profile choice).
I think the Burton Ruler’s would be a great choice if you don’t want to spend too much, and if you also have wide feet, they come in a wide option too. Looks like they go up to size 15 in both the regular and wide options. My brother rides the Rulers and swears by them.
Some other options (a bit more pricey) that come in 15s are the Burton Imperials and the Photon Boa (these are a little stiffer but could still work). Or the Concords. There are other options in 15s – the Moto, Invader, and Rampant but I think these would be on the soft side for you, given that you are progressing quickly.
Just quickly the flex for the boots I’ve mentioned are, I would say:
Burton Ruler – 5/10
Burton Concord – 5/10
Burton Imperial – 6/10
Burton Photon Boa – 7/10
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
I’m looking at some future purchases and was wondering your expertise. I am from Georgia, so only snowboard 4-5 days a year and I have been 5-6 times and have always rented. I am now at the age where I’m old enough to start going on my own and am looking at buying my own board. I am willing to spend a decent amount, but not too much because I go so few days a year. What are your recommendations for board size? Feel free to throw in some snowboards you feel would be good. I’m 5’11 185 and size 12.5 shoe. Thank you for your time.
Hi Grant
Thanks for your message.
First of all, you’ll want to be looking at a wide board with 12.5 shoes. Assuming you are talking US12.5, then something with a waist width of at least 262mm and up to 270mm. If that’s a UK12.5 shoe, then we’re looking more like 265mm to 272mm. Sometimes your snowboard boot can be half a size smaller than your shoe size, but assuming your boot size is the same as your shoe size and assuming US12.5 then 262mm to 270mm at the waist would be a good range to look at in terms of width.
In terms of length, I would say something between 156 and 158cm would be a good length for you at this stage.
Since you have only been up 5-6 times, then I think going with a beginner board is a good idea. You can check out some of the options at the link below. There should be something in there that will be suitable for you:
>>My Top 15 Men’s Snowboards for Beginners
Having a quick run through that list, the following would be good size options:
~ K2 Standard 155W or 159W
~ Rome Mechanic 157MW
~ Rossignol Curcuit 156W
~ Rossignol District 156W
~ Ride Agenda 157W
~ Never Summer Snowtrooper 157X
Hope this helps
Hi Nate
I’m about to change my setups and i’m going for a K2 or 32 boots size 10.5. I just can’t decide if i should go for an union force size M or L. Because on the union size chart (2017) they suggest an L size for a 10.5 boot even though to me it looks really huge. i ride a capita outsiders 156 and i was wondering if the L size would have a bit of overhang on the toes.
Thank you!
Hi Nicolo
I’d say that the large should be fine on the Outsiders 156 but I couldn’t say for sure. I ride medium Unions. But the width on the Outsiders isn’t too narrow, so it should accommodate Ls.
In terms of fitting on mediums – you could possibly get on them. I ride size 10 boots and I definitely prefer Medium in Union bindings. You’ve got half a size on that. My main boots don’t have much of a reduced footprint either – but probably more than K2 boots – but less than 32 boots, I would say.
I think you’d be fine either way (fitting your boots in Ms and fitting Ls on your board). Can’t guarantee either scenario but my guess is that either would work.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate
Thanks for all the great advice. I have Salomon ivy boots size 6 and am tossing up between S and M burton escapade bindings. How do I choose one over the other? Have found a great deal for a pair of past season S’s
Hi Nat
It’s a tough choice when you’re right on the fence between 2 sizes. In this case, though I think the mediums are the better bet. The main reason I say that is that Burton’s sizes are based on Burton’s boots, which tend to have a smaller outersole than most brands. Salomon boots have a larger outersole for the same size as a Burton boot, which means that the Salomon size 6 would be more like a Burton 6.5 or even 7 – so the Mediums in my opinion would be the better fit.
Which is a shame since you have found a deal on smalls – you could risk it, but I think medium is the better size for you for Burton bindings.
Hope this helps
Thanks a lot Nate!
I took the medium bindings and they work well with the size 8 boots.
Regards, Mike
Hi Mike
Great to hear. Hope your girlfriend has an awesome season on them!
Hi Nate,
just got Burton Mint boots size 8 for my girlfriend and want to order Burton stiletto est bindings. With boot size 8 she is in between medium and large for the bindings. I have no idea if the mint boots do have a reduced footprint. I’m wondering which binding size would be better? What do you think? Or could it be a good idea to take the mediums together with the straps from the large bindings? Her board a 142 burton social peanuts edition for M/L bindings and she is still a beginner.
Thanks for your advice!
Regards from Germany
Hi Mike
Burton’s women’s boots do have the same reduced profile as men’s boots – so the Mint is a low profile boot. However, Burton bindings sizes are worked out based on Burton’s boots – so they take into account that reduced footprint for their binding sizes.
So really, you could go with either the Medium or the Large for size 8s. Both sizes should be fine on the 142 Burton Social too. So really it’s 50/50. Either one would work – and you wouldn’t need to get the straps from the large if you went for the mediums.
If I really had to choose I would say mediums, but really either one will work.
Hope this helps
Hello Nate, I am going to buy for my girlfriend snowboard and bindings and boots also.
I am thinking to get 2013 Kandi K2 141 lengths, its a little narrow but for beginner will be great i think. Her foot size is US 6.5 and thinking to get 2017 ThirtyTwo STW Boa boots for women. I am stuck between binding size S and M, different bindings have different size charts and most of them have S size up to 6, but M starts sometimes from 6 till 10. Right now i am thinking to buy for her 2011 K2 Kat Small bindings, i have a really good deal for this package and will everything fit to each other? thanks
Hi Nick
Thanks for your message. I think you’re girlfriend would get away with the width on the K2 Kandi with US6.5s and it sounds like a good board for beginners. It would definitely be on the narrow side though. You wouldn’t want to go any narrower than that. Also, often snowboard boots fit a half size smaller than regular shoe sizes – so she might actually fit a US Women’s 6 better.
For K2 bindings, I would go with medium. It depends on the brand as to which size to go for but for K2 I would go medium for size 6.5. Even if she gets into size 6 boots, she will be ok on the medium. But if she ends up in 6.5 boots they might be just stretching it for the Small size.
And yes they will all fit together.
Hope this helps
Hi,
I am looking at buying my boyfriend a pair of union contact pro bindings 2017. I am just wondering what size to purchase. He wears a size US 11 boot. He currently rides a GNU space case
Thank you
Hi Jenna
For US11s I’d go with the Large for your boyfriend. The Mediums will probably fit but some size 11s might not so the Large is the safer bet.
Contact Pros will go really well with the Space Case too, so a great choice – and what an awesome gift!
Hope this helps
Hey,
I have 10.5 32 tm two boots. Would you recommend wide or regular ?
The board I am looking to buy has a regular 253mm waist (regular) and 261mm (wide).
Hi Leonel
Thanks for your message.
With 10.5 32’s I would say that you are on the cuff. 32 boots have some reduced outer-sole. I would say they are better than some brands in that respect and not as good as others.
To say for sure which would be the better bet, I’d probably need to know your typical binding angles and the particular board you are looking at – but in most scenarios I would say 253mm for a 10.5 boot rather than 261mm. Personally i have 10s and find anything over 258mm to be too wide. But I can go as low as 248mm and still be fine. If I had 10.5s I would prefer 253mm over 261mm in most scenarios.
But if you like to really get low on carves, like really get up on the edges, if that’s like your main thing – and depending on your binding angles, then the 261mm might be better. But like I say, typically I would say 253mm for 10.5s.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thank you so much for taking the time to give all this advice! I have the DC Travis Rice Boots size 11 and I want to buy the GNU freedom bindings. I can get large (9-11) or XL (11-14) and I’m not sure whether to size up or down. Any advice on this?
Thank you very much!
Hi Vincent
Thanks for your message.
I don’t have experience with GNU bindings personally but usually I would say go with the smaller size if you’re on the cuff – for other binding brands. So I would say go with Large. The other reason I would say large is that I saw a sizing chart for GNU bindings (not on their site but on a retailer’s site) that sizes large at 9-11 and XL at 12-14. So that suggests to me that the Large would be a better fit for size 11s.
DC’s Travis Rice Boots do have reasonable reduced outer-sole tech as well which also makes me lean towards Large.
Thanks for also alerting me that I haven’t updated GNUs sizings in my tables on this post (that can happen when they’re a binding brand I haven’t demoed!)
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
Thanks for helping everyone.
Just bought a Salomon Pulse 149 board, I wear size 8 mens. I’m thinking about picking up a K2 Indy or maybe a union Contact. Any tips for which size binding to get? I know the Indy’s are 5-8 M and 8-11 Large so I’m not sure what to go with
Cheers!
Hi Andrew
Sorry for the late reply, I had a busy weekend demoing snowboards.
It may depend somewhat on the brand of boots you have. Do you have boots yet? If not, and you are aren’t planning on buying boots yet then I would go for the large for the K2 Indy’s and the Medium for the Union Contacts. If you do have boots can you let me the brand.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I am a size women’s 6.5, currently wearing the ThirtyTwo Lashed boots. Was kindly gifted a Capita Space Metal Fantasy board 141cm and currently looking at purchasing the Union Milan bindings. Was wondering if you could reccomend the best size for me to get?
Thanks in advance
Hi Annie
Nice gift!
Go with the Medium Milan bindings. They should fit your boots the best. The small might be too small for them. They may fit but the Medium is the safer bet. The Medium should fit on the 141cm Space Metal Fantasy too. It’s a reasonably narrow board but so long as you have the bindings set so that the toe ramp is as far in as it can go, they should fit fine.
Ideally you want the bindings to go from edge to edge on the board (for maximum leverage) without going over. If the bindings are inside the edges at all, it should be on the heel edge rather than the toe edge. And your boots should overhang the edge of the board by a little bit too. I think that setup will work well for you with Medium Milans.
I have a size 10.5 heelside boot and want to get a set of morrow Bindings. The large is tight on the toe when it’s set as loose as it can go and the XL I have to crank all the way before it feels secure. Both ankle straps fit fine. Which size would you recommend?
Hi Kevin
With brands that I’m on the cuff with (I have size 10.0s so I’m usually in between for Burton, Union & Flux bindings) I prefer to go with the smaller size – so in the case of Burton, Union & Flux, I prefer the Medium over the Large versions.
I’m not familiar with Morrow bindings but I’ve never had an issue with the toe strap feeling tight on the loosest setting when going with the smaller size. Given that they say that their large size goes up to size 11s, I would have thought that you shouldn’t have any issues fitting in there – but like I say I’m not familiar with that brand.
But, I think I would go with the large if you feel that it feels ok. If you can crank the toe strap enough that it feels like it’s going to stay there, I think it should be fine. Crazy that going up that size you go from bordering on not being able to click it in to going to have to crank it all the way down on the XL. So I’m guessing you tried the XL with the toe strap on its tightest setting? How many adjustments do they have on them?
Hey Nate, I tested the bindings on the weekend. Fits perfectly! Thanks again for your help!
Hey Mike – you’re very welcome. Great to hear the bindings fit well!
Alright. Just was thinking about the gap on the sides (front/mid foot). 3-4 mm gap on each side if the boot is centered. Any issues here?
Hi Mike
Sorry, that’s what I meant – the sides of the toe end of the boot (I can see how my comment wasn’t clear!). It’s normal to have gaps on the sides of the toe end of the boot – and mid boot. Shouldn’t cause any issues.
Last question Nate: Just got my union contacts today in M. They seem to fit properly with my boots, heel has a snug fit, but there is a 7 mm gap between boot and binding on the one side (no gap on the other side). Do you see any issues here? Thx!
Hi Mike
Shouldn’t be any issues there. There is usually somewhat of a gap between the toe end of the boot and the binding and 7mm isn’t a big gap, so shouldn’t be a problem.
Hi Nate,
I’ve burton amb boots with reduced footprint, size 8.5. Just ordered the union contact bindings medium size, but not sure if the smaller size would fit better due to the reduced footprint of my boots. What do you think? My 8.5 bootsize should work with 245 mm board width, doesn’t it?
Thanks a lot for your advice! (again ;))
You’re very welcome Mike.
You could have gone with either size really with your boots. Maybe small would be what I would have recommended for you if I had to choose one – but only just. I think the mediums will be fine for you.
Burton 8.5s on a 245mm waist width board should be perfect.
Perfect. Thx Nate! Just curious about why you would have recommended the smaller size. Because of the reduced footprint? Does it play a role? Or do you think smaller bindings are better choice than larger ones if people have a boot size in between 2 binding sizes? Just in general…
Hi Mike
I think with Burton size 8.5 you’re probably looking at a size 8ish in a regular profile boot. That puts it at the minimum for medium and just under the maximum for the small – so it’s just closer to the middle of the suggested range really. So yeah, the reduced footprint would have played a part in that decision. But like I say, there’s so little in it, you will be fine in the Ms.
Alright. Makes sense.
In my opinion snowboardingprofiles is the best gear advice website out there. Great job. Highly appreciated.
Thanks Mike – really appreciate that!
I have a Capita Outerspace Living 156cm board and my boot size is 10. I’m considering to get a Flux TT binding but not sure which size I should get. The board waist is 251mm, I’m just worrying the size large would overhung the board by too much.
Thank you
Hi Chris
You would be fine with the Large Flux TT on the Outerspace Living 156cm. A 251mm waist board should be able to accommodate large bindings. Particularly with flux bindings, they have an adjustable toe ramp and an adjustable heel ramp. When you have those both pushed in as far as they go, you can get them on a narrower board than you think – and a 251mm isn’t that narrow. I have had my Flux DS large bindings on boards with a 251mm and not had any overhang issues.
That said, a medium would also fit that board and would fit your boots. So you have the option of both and both would work fine. You’re in that nice ground of being able to get either or.
Hope this helps
And which one do you actually recommend, the Flux TT or DS, base on your experience. I really have trouble to choose between those two, both looks perfect.
Thank you.
Hi Chris
I prefer the DS. Both are fine but the DS are just that little bit nicer, IMO – a little bit more responsive and I felt they had a slightly better board feel.
Thank you very much, I’ll go for the DS size Large.
You’re very welcome. Hope you enjoy your new bindings.
Hey Nate, had a question for you regarding binding size. I am switching to a salomon ultimate ride 161 and am trying to decide which size bindings I should go for. I am leaning towards a union or possibly a burton binding. I am currently wearing a size 10 k2 darko(older model) and might bump up to a size 10.5 boot next season. What size binding would you recommend, M or L? Thanks in advance!
Hi Tom
Thanks for your message.
I personally also have size 10s and I prefer medium for both Burton and Union bindings. I currently ride Vans Aura (2016) boots and they have ok, but not great, reduced footprint. Maybe more so than older K2 boots – but before that I was riding 2013 K2 Boots and in those I still preferred medium over large for Burton and Union bindings.
I couldn’t say for sure how much difference half a size would make – but I think you would still be fine in the 10.5s
Burton’s sizings for bindings take into account the reduced footprint of Burton boots (one of the better reduced footprints on the market) – so I definitely wouldn’t go for an 11 in the mediums unless it was a Burton, Ride or Adidas boot – but I think 10.5 should be fine in the medium. But in saying that it will likely also fit in the large. But overall I would say go medium. It will work better with your current boot (IMO) and will likely work better, or at least equally as well, than a large in your 10.5s.
Hope this answers your question.
I have a 145cm K2 snowboard, will large bindings fit or will i have get bigger board?
Hi Ethan
I think you would be pushing it to get large bindings on a 145cm. But I couldn’t say for sure without more details. Do you know the width of the board (or if you could let me know the model of K2 and I could find out)? Also which bindings brand are you looking at – some Large bindings are larger than others depending on the brand.
Also, in order to determine whether you should go longer/wider in terms of the board, if you can let me know your height/weight, boot size, ability level and your style of riding (e.g. park, backcountry, jumps, carving etc). If you can let me know this extra info I can give you a better recommendation
Hiii,
Im looking into buying a snowboard/boots/bindings and I would really appreciate your advice.
I dont have super big assortment available to me but there was a package deal on a Burton Socialite with a Stiletto binding for a decent price. They only had the binding in M or L though and my normal shoe size is eu 36 so I can imagine Id have a 36 or 36.5 or so depending on the boot.
That size seems to be right in the middle between S and M, do you think I should look around for something else where I can get a binding in S or would the M be okay? I will probably get something like a Burton Mint boot.
Thank you!
Hi Anna
I think you’re likely to be better with a small but you might get away with a medium. It will largely depend on the size of boots that you end up with. Usually with snowboard boots you are a half size smaller than your normal shoe size (not always – sometimes you are the same as your normal shoe size or even half a size longer but usually it’s around a half size smaller). Now converting to US sizes using Burton’s conversions, a 36 would be Women’s US 5.5 so you might be anywhere between a 5 and a 6. If you end up on a 6, then the M would be fine – but you would also fit on an S. If you end up with something smaller then the S will be better.
So I think looking for something in an S is a safer bet – unless you get your boots first so you know the size you will have and then you could decide.
Hope this helps
Ohh okay! Helps a ton, thank you so much 🙂
You’re very welcome Anna. All the best for your gear hunt. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Hi nate, thanks for the great advice all around.
Im a begginer on the high end, struggling with what i should get, and i am buying online. I would like to know what you think.
My boot size is 10.5 US. Want to buy a Ride pair of boots, probably the ride rook or ride lasso (i think ride boots in general are known for their low profile).
With this in mind; my board option is a Ride Agenda, not sure if the 252 mm waist width (length 156 cm) or 255 mm (lenght 159 cm). And bindings, Burton Mission, even more doubt, M or L. Thinking about the large but i dont want to get stuck with bindings too large because of a low profile boot.
Thinkin maybe 252 mm width, burton bindings.
What is your opinion? Than you very much!
(Height 179 cm, weight 76 kg)
Hi JP
Thanks for your message. I think the 156cm Ride Agenda would be the best size for you. And with Ride 10.5s you will be fine on the 252mm waist width (you’re correct that they are low profile boots). That’s definitely the better length for you at this stage, IMO.
I think you would be fine in the large Burton bindings. Burton’s bindings sizes take into account the reduced outersole of Burton boots (which is very similar to the amount of reduced outersole that Ride boots have). So you will be fine in the large – but you also have the option to go medium. I have size 10.0s (with only a small amount of outersole reduction – probable more like 10.5 Ride or Burton boots) and I prefer to go medium for Burton bindings – I like that snugger fit – but the large works fine for me too. Either size will fit fine on the width of the Agenda 156cm.
Hope this answers your questions and helps with your decision
Great, thank you so much Nate!
You’re very welcome JP. Hope you have an awesome rest of your season!
Hi Nate, I’m currently looking at a burton board that has women’s medium bindings. However I have a size 9 Aus boot and was wondering if it is possible to still use the bindings that are on the board currently or if I have to get new ones?
Thank you Sarah
Hi Sarah
It’s outside of their recommendations for a Medium binding. But you could certainly give it a go. No guarantees they will fit though. See my reply to Jamie above – she’s in a similar situation.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I just got Burton Emerald 2015 size 9 boots, and would it fit my Burton Stiletto 2012 Medium binding? It says Burton M Binding fit boot size 6-8, does that mean it won’t work? Thanks!
Hi Jamie
It doesn’t necessarily mean that it won’t work – but it probably won’t be the ideal fit. If you can get the boots in there and they feel ok – and if you can set up the bindings on your board so that you have close to equal overhang on both heel and toe edge – then they should be ok. But you’d have to test that out.
If you can’t set your bindings so that the overhang is even – i.e. there is more toe overhang because of the longer boots, or the boot doesn’t fit, then it might be a case of needing to get new bindings. Ideally you want your bindings to be edge to edge on the snowboard (but without overhanging) and the heel of your boot and the toe of your boot should overhang the edges of the board just a little bit – but you want to have the amount of overhang on the toe edge to preferably equal to or slightly less than the overhang on the heel edge.
Hope this makes sense! And hope it answers your question.
Hi Nate,
I have a size 5 woman’s Burton boots, but I am having a hard time deciding the binding size for the flow bindings. Could my boot size fit into the M Micron youth flow bindings and/or the M women’s flow bindings? The size chart on the flow website says that the M womens bindings fits size 6-10 boots, my feet are so small that I am worried it’ll be too big for my boots. So I was debating on if i should just get the youth size instead of the womens size.
Hi Rachel
I think your boots are probably going to be a bit small for the M women’s size. Flow’s sizing is a little bit confusing. But I think you would fit into the youth sizing better. I think you should actually go for size “S”. The Youth size “S” goes up to Men’s size 4.5 (which is a Womens US size 5.5. The M starts at US Men’s 4.5 (which is a Women’s US size 5.5 or even 6 if you follow flow’s sizing chart).
So I think even the M is going to be too big for you and I would recommend the S for your boot size.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate. I plan to get the union legacy bindings. I’m a size 7 (US), have Ride boots, and NS aura 148. I know the union sizing chart but I saw a review saying the M bindings ran big and her 6.5 Ride boot was swimming around. Since the Ride boots have a smaller footprint would small be a better option?? Thanks!
Hi Liz
Ride do have really good reduced footprint tech, so that does become a factor. Your size 7 is probably more like a size 6 in terms of normal outersole – so I imagine that you would fit into a small Union. However, with the 7.0 I don’t think you’d be swimming too much in the medium either.
Either would be fine with your board – so if you want to try the small, I think that would work with your board too. I don’t think you can go wrong with either – but if you’re worried about the M being too big, then the S might be the better bet.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Awesome site! I have the Burton mint snowboard boots in size 6.5. I ordered the Burton citizen bindings in medium as the sizing is 6-8. Will the binding/boot fit on my board? I have the myth amptek 144. Thanks!
Best,
Sarah
Hi Sarah
Those boots and bindings should fit really well on the Myth 144cm. You’ve got a really great set up going there which should make for quick progression. Enjoy the new gear!
Thanks for the quick reply! Got my gear based on your reviews. Thanks for the advice!!
You’re very welcome Sarah. Hope you enjoy your new gear and have an awesome season!
Hello,
i need some help for snowboard gear.
i am 5’79” and 163lbs and my foot are 28 cm=11.023622 inches exactly.
which is the right waist width for me?
there is a maximum width for me?
263mm waist width is to big for me?
Hi Apostolis
Personally I think a 263mm waist width is bordering on too wide for you. I have a similar sized foot and I find anything 260mm and over to be a bit wide for me. I would try to keep your maximum under 260mm if I was you.
Also you probably shouldn’t go any less than around 249mm – though that will depend on your boot size. A 28cm foot will normally fit into a US size 10.0 boot – but it’s not always the case. If you end up needing a longer boot, then the minimum would go up.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Many thanks for all of your articles. It’s been tremendously helpful.
For years I’ve been riding my old Forum bindings, so I’d like to step things up this year. I’m an upper intermediate rider that enjoys a more all mountain freestyle day. I’m currently riding last year’s Yes Basic 152. I’m 5’6″ 160lbs. I’ve been looking at the Union Atlas or Union Contact Pro. My boot size is 8, which happens to be that terrible in between size. I have Ride Lasso boots which I bought a few months ago and love them. My question is, what size binding do I go with? For the unions it shows small as 5-8.5 and medium as 8-11. What do you recommend? And, do you have recommendations for other good bindings that I should look at that would fit my size and ability?
Thanks!
Nick
Hi Nick
Thanks for your message.
As you say your in that in between size. Which means you would be ok on either in terms of your boots. You could probably get away with either on your board too but I would say that the Medium will fit on your board better. So, based on that I would say that the medium is the way to go for Union bindings for you. Sizing may or may not differ depending on the brand that you go with.
Check out the link below. I think the bindings from that list would suit you level/style well. But the Contact Pros and the Atlas are also good bindings that would for you.
~ My Top 5 All-Mountain Bindings
The bindings in the list are more like all-mountain freestyle bindings – I also have a list of all-mountain-freeride bindings which are stiffer and less suited for all-mountain-freestyle.
Hope this helps
Hi nate I got dc judges size 11.what size burton cartel or mission binding will fit best
Hi John
For DC 11.0s on a Burton binding I would definitely go for the large Burton binding. Burton’s binding sizes take into account the reduced outersole of Burton boots – so if you were a Burton boot size 11, then I would probably still say large but that you could fit on a medium if you wanted to – but with the DC boots I’d definitely go large.
Hey Nate ,
Wanna start off by saying you rock, man.
Would love to get your opinion on this. I’m male, 6′ 185lbs with a size 13.5 wide shoe size. So I wear 14s on a daily basis. I ride angles of 10-10 or 12-12. I currently have my eyes on a never summer Proto type two 158x with a waist of 263. I’m having a few different types of boots mailed to my house to try on, all either adidas or burton because of the low profile technology (and I’ve heard they run wide). I’m also looking at purchasing a pair of Burton Stay Calm bindings size L. From what I’ve read, these bindings are essentially the burton cartels with the mesh of the malavitas.
My first question is – do you think the Stay Calm bindings can support a size 13 or 14 boot?
My second question is – do you think the 263 waist of the 158x is wide enough based on the above info?
You input is appreciated!
-Dan
Hi Dan
Thanks for your message.
I think if you fit into 13.5 boots of either Adidas or Burton, then I would be confident that you could fit on the 263mm waist of the 158X Proto Type Two. Size 14s I would be less confident but I think you might still get away with it but it would be pushing it. The fact that you ride with a mirror duck is on your side though because neither of your feet will be flat across the board like they might be with a more forward stance.
I like the 158 length for you for this board for your height/weight – so it would be good to be able to get on that size.
I imagine that the Stay Calm can support up to a size 14. I haven’t seen a size 14 in them before so I can’t guarantee it – but I have size 10s and I definitely prefer the Burton Mediums – the Large feel too big for my boots. I think 12s would be about average in the large – so based on that I think you could accommodate up to size 14.
Hope this helps.
Hey Nate,
Appreciate the response. I’m picking the up the board today!
Thanks again for your input.
Best,
Dan
You’re very welcome Dan
Hope you enjoy your new board and have an awesome season!
Hey man,
I have a pair of size 11 vans boots. what size would you recommend for union bindings or maybe a few other choices?
Cheers, Nik
Hi Nik
I would go for Large if you go with Union Bindings. I’d say large for most brands in fact. For Ride and K2 you could go XL but I think even for them Large would work best.
Hi Nate,
To reiterate, you are awesome for responding to everyone like you do! Absolutely stellar information and advice on this site and I will remain a loyal reader!!
I have purchased a 2015/2016 model Jones Mountain twin size 162, a 256 mm waist and an 8.2 m Sidecut Radius.
I’m looking to set pick out Flow bindings and new boots for the board.
I’m 240 lb, and 6 foot 1 inch. I wear a size 12 in tennis shoes, so I’m expecting to fit in to an 11 or 11.5 in boots.
Basically, I was just wondering if you could recommend a Flow Binding, then a good boot that would compliment the binding.
Thanks in advance for your expertise and your time in reading!!
Hi Adam
Thanks for your comments.
I have ridden flow bindings for a few years but in terms of what would fit the Mountain Twin in terms of specs, I think that the following would be a good match (either in hybrid strap or fusion strap – whichever you think you’ll prefer).
~ Flow Fuse; or
~ Flow Fuse GT
I think that they will be the best match for the board in terms of flex. If your budget was lower, I think the Nexus would be your next best bet.
In terms of boots, I would try to choose something with a low profile (reduced outersole) – if you end up with size 11.0s, then you’ll have no trouble on the 256mm waist width – and you shouldn’t have any trouble in 11.5s – but to be on the safe-side to make sure your boots are a good fit to the width of your board, I would go with low profile boots.
The best in the business at the moment in terms of outersole reduction are Adidas, Burton and Ride. So going with one of those is a good option. Check out the next 2 links to get some ideas on boots –
~ My Top 5 All Mountain Boots
~ My Top 5 Freestyle Boots (these are still suitable for all-mountain riding, just softer flexing than the ones in the list above)
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
Quick question, I’m riding a 158 and my boots are 10.5. I was looking to get a pair of union bindings but I fall right inbetween the M and L limits. Is it better to size down and go with the M or do you think the large would be a better fit? The board is a Ride burnout and just got some dialogue focus boots 10.5
Hi Antonio
That’s really 50/50. Either size will fit fine on your board and either size will fit fine with your boots. I have size 10 boots and I do prefer the Medium Union bindings. But that extra half size might make some difference.
I honestly think either would work for you – you really are right in the middle.
This is assuming of course that you are referring to US 10.5 – if it’s UK 10.5, then go with large.
Thank you for your response. Is the Large that much larger than the Medium or will it basically come down to how much strap is left over once tightening down my boots? And I was wrong I’m an 11 boot, just exchanged them :/
Hi Antonio
The Large bindings will be longer. In terms of the straps, you can adjust the positions of both the ankle strap and toe strap so that they lock down centered over the boot – so the size won’t affect how much strap is left over – if that makes sense. The size is really mostly about the length of the binding and how well that fits your boots. There is an adjustable toe ramp on Union bindings too so that you can customize the fit.
In any case, I think that you should go with the large now that you know you will have an 11.0 boot. I think the large is definitely the best option now.
I really appreciate your response and all your help. Thank you again!
Hi Antonio
You’re very welcome. Hope you have an awesome season!
Hello I have boots size 10 would it fit in the extra large bindings of Ride or it would be too small? Let me know.
Hi Nathan
I would go for Large if I was you. They would fit in the XL but they wouldn’t be ideal in there. I have size 10s also and I rode some NOW XL bindings and they felt a good bit too big. I wouldn’t choose to ride them again.
Hope this helps
Also, sorry one more thing about the measurements. For my weight and height (125lbs & 5″4), would a 139cm or 144cm be better. I would be riding mainly at ski resorts in terrain parks or through the trees
I think the 144cm would be the best bet. I think the 139cm would be ok but I think the 144 would be the better bet – the 139 slightly too small – and if you are still growing it’s only going to get shorter (comparatively!)
Hey so I’m buying a system timeless snowboard and wanted to know which size I should get. I think 144cm because I like the park and doing jumps but I don’t want it to be too small. Also is 153cm is too big? I am 14 years old and I’m 125 pounds and 5″4
It’s me again, one more question. When buying boots, I am a 9.5 US but in normal shoes. What would I be in snowboard Boots? I don’t know which brand I’m getting yet either and my feet are a little wide. I’d say my feet width is 4-5 inches and I’m a 9.5 in shoes. Thx because I’m looking to buy the camp 7 Valdez 2017 and after you answer the other question about that, I wanted to know my boot size, thx
Hi Ryan
Typically speaking your snowboard boot size would be a half size smaller than your normal shoe size. However, this isn’t always the case. For wider feet I would look into Thirty Two boots – they tend to fit wider feet better from what I’ve heard. Also Salomon have a lot of their boots in wide sizes.
But if at all possible, you should try boots on before you buy – if you can’t then make sure you order from a store that will allow you to return them in case they don’t fit properly.
If your not sure how Snowboard boots should fit check out the link below.
~ Snowboard Boot Sizing
Also – I don’t think I got your question about the Camp 7 Valdez – can you send that through again
Hi Ryan
The 144cm would be a good size for you I think. I wouldn’t go any longer than that if you like the park. I think the 153cm would definitely be too big for you at this stage.
Hi, I am a newbie about snowboarding, so, I have so many questions about it. I am planning on buying my boyfriend a Burton custom snowboard 2016(directional twin), still thinking should I pay a hundred more to get the custom 2017 flying v.
My boyfriend is 165cm tall and 140lbs, wanna know if I’m getting him a 151 cm snowboard, can I get a small bindings with it? His shoes size normally US size7.5, the shorter size 148cm snowboard waist is 14.5cm, and one size up to 151 snowboard would be 14.8cm. I am so confused about the size of the burton binding, because the waist of their regular snowboard might actually the same as the length of 7.5 boots.
Can you give me some suggestions about what size I should choose for the snowboard and the bindings?
I wanna buy the whole set from burton, but I couldn’t find any information about a small bindings with a regular snowboard:'(
Hi Marissa
Thanks for your message. I think that if you can find the 2016 model and can get it cheaper, in this case it’s probably the best bet – the Custom hasn’t changed that much b