Hello and welcome to my Jones Twin Sister snowboard review.
In this review, I will take a look at the Twin Sister as an all-mountain snowboard.
As per tradition here at SnowboardingProfiles.com I will give the Twin Sister a score out of 100 (based on several factors) and see how it compares with other all-mountain snowboards.
Overall Rating
Board: Jones Twin Sister
Price: $549
Style: All-Mountain
Flex Rating: Medium-Stiff (7/10)
Flex Feel on Snow: Medium (6/10)
Rating Score: 89.2/100
Compared to other Women’s All-Mountain Boards
Out of the 24 women’s all-mountain snowboards that I rated:
Overview of the Twin Sister’s Specs
Check out the tables for the Twin Sister’s specs and available sizes.
Specs
Style: | All-Mountain |
Price: | $549 - BUYING OPTIONS |
Ability Level: | |
Flex: | |
Feel: | |
Smooth/Snappy: | |
Dampness: | |
Playful/Aggressive: | |
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Camber Profile: | |
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Setback Stance: | Setback 20mm (1") |
Base: | Sintered 8000 |
Weight: | Felt normal |
Sizing
LENGTH (cm) | Waist Width (mm) | Rec Rider Weight (lb) | Rec Rider Weight (kg) |
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140 | 238 | 90-140 | 41-63 |
143 | 240 | 100-150 | 45-68 |
146 | 242 | 100-150 | 45-68 |
149 | 244 | 110-160 | 49-73 |
152 | 246 | 110-160 | 49-73 |
155 | 248 | 120-170 | 54-77 |
Who is the Twin Sister Most Suited To?
The Twin Sister is best suited to someone looking for that one-board-quiver. If you like to do a bit of everything on a snowboard and go everywhere on the mountain, but you only want to have one board, this is one of the best around for doing that.
It's not a super aggressive ride or anything but it's also not beginner friendly. But fine for anyone intermediate and up.
The Twin Sister in More Detail
O.k. let’s take a more detailed look at what the Twin Sister is capable of.
Demo Info
Board: Jones Twin Sister 2023, 146cm (242mm waist width)
Date: March 3, 2022
Conditions
Cloudy with some patches of blue at times. Really high cloud so visibility was all good.
Temperature was -2°C (28°F) degrees. No wind.
24hr snow: 4cm (1.5")
48hr snow: 23cm (9")
7 day snow: 64cm (25")
On groomer: Some icier sections in places but for the most part medium firmness with some softer areas. Fair bit of crud with not all that much groomed but some well groomed areas as well.
Off groomer: Some left over freshies! Untracked in places even. Mostly tracked but some nice untouched spots to explore.
Set Up
Bindings angles: +15/-12
Stance width: 490mm (19.3″) - reference stance is 530mm but rode at one hole in on each
Stance Setback: Setback 20mm
Width at Inserts: 254mm (10") at front insert and 256mm (10.08") at back insert
Weight: 2480g (5lbs, 7oz)
Weight per cm: 16.99g/cm
Average Weight per cm: 17.29 grams/cm*
*based on a small sample size of around 30 women's boards that I've weighed in 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023 models. The Twin Sister is lighter than normal on the scales, but on snow Jade found it to be feel about normal or if anything slightly heavier than normal.
Tester: Jade
Rider Height: 5"7" (170cm)
Rider Weight: 130lbs (59kg)
Rider Boot Size: Women's US6.5 Thirty Two Exit
Bindings Used: Burton Lexa, Medium
Powder
We didn't have oodles of it to test in, but the Twin Sister handled what we had well. It's not going to be amazing in deeper powder, but not bad either.
It's got some setback - which you can increase of course - and a nose slightly longer than it's tail. That plus some rocker in the nose and tail and it's 3D contour base all help it in powder.
Carving
Not up there with the best, but really really decent on a carve. Jade had a lot of fun carving on this board and felt she was easily able to commit to an edge and let the board carve.
Turning
Ease of Turns/Slashing: Great on a carve, but also really fun board to slash with as well. Not sure if the 3D contour base helps here.
Maneuverability at slow speeds: Not lightning quick from edge-to-edge at slower speeds, but not bad either.
Skidded Turns: The board doesn't feel catchy at all, making it quite easy to skid turns on.
Speed
The Twin Sister felt pretty fast and stable at speed too. And, typical of Jones, had really good glide too.
Uneven Terrain
Crud/Chunder: Jade felt the Twin Sister smashed through crud pretty well - and being damp absorbed the chatter well. Not invincible to getting bucked around a little, but pretty good - and whilst not the easiest in the world to correct when bucked around, not hard to correct either.
Bumps/Trees: Was quick enough edge-to-edge to weave through trees and bumps well - and was good at hugging bumps when going over them too.
Let’s Break up this text with a Video
Jumps
This board felt quite stable on approach and it could really stomp a landing. Not much pop but still had fun on some of the side hits despite it.
Pop: Not too much pop overall. Some of it was pretty easy to access though - and when you wound it up there was more to be had, but it wasn't super poppy overall.
Approach: This board was super solid on the approach. It was pretty easy to speed check on the approach and maintain control, too.
Landing: Very stable on landings - could stomp it! But also not unforgiving when you got it wrong.
Side-hits: Not ideal, but still had fun with it on side-hits.
Small jumps/Big Jumps: Best suited to medium to large jumps.
Switch
Decent riding switch and transitioning to/from switch was fine too.
Spins
Not hard to get the spin around but not super easy. Because there wasn't heaps of pop, it wasn't ideal. But it does setup and land switch decently and all round decent.
Jibbing
If you're a confident jibber you shouldn't have any issues jibbing with this board, but if you're not confident it could be a bit intimidating to jib on.
Butters
Feels softer in the tip and tail than the rest of the board. I'd say 5/10 on the tip/tail and 7/10 through the middle of the board. So, it's fairly easy to press. You've got to put a bit of weight into it though.
Score Breakdown and Final Verdict
Check out the breakdown of the score in the table below.
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
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POWDER | 3.5 | 10.5/15 |
CARVING | 3.5 | 7/10 |
TURNS/SLASHING | 4.0 | 8/10 |
SPEED | 3.5 | 7/10 |
CRUD/CHUNDER | 4.0 | 8/10 |
TREES/BUMPS | 4.0 | 8/10 |
SWITCH | 3.5 | 7/10 |
JUMPS | 4.0 | 8/10 |
SPINS | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
BUTTERS | 4.0 | 4/5 |
JIBBING | 3.0 | 3/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 89.2/100 |
Overall, the Twin Sister is an extremely versatile board that can ride in any conditions and thrive and take you anywhere on the mountain with confidence.
Whether it's park, powder, ice, groomers, trees or moguls, the Twin Sister is at home anywhere and works really well if you don't want to have two separate boards, but still want to have the option of taking her anywhere.
More Info, Current Prices and Where to Buy Online
If you want to learn more about the Twin Sister, or if you are ready to buy, or if you just want to research prices and availability, check out the links below.
If you want to check out some other women's all-mountain snowboard options, or if you want to compare how the Twin Sister compares to other all-mountain snowboards, then check out the next link.
Tatiana says
Hi Nate, thanks so much for your reviews! I’m thinking of buying a Twin Sister, as I’m a good rider with 7+ years of experience (somewhere between intermediate and advanced – on my way:), do trails with a fast ride and sometime powder snow. Maybe can try more park jumps in the future. So I’m looking for smth universal like Twin Sister. In case you can recommend other options, please feel free to share!
But I’m a bit confused with sizes. Currently I have short old Burton board (ending near my breast) that I’ve had as a teenager, so I definitely need a new bigger one. I’m 173 cm tall, around 60-62 kg, and have Burton Moto man’s boots (US 8.5 or EUR 41.5) – I might buy one size smaller in the future, my day-to-day boot size is EUR 38 – 38.5. Should 149 Twin Sister work for me or 146 is better?
Nate says
Hi Tatiana
Thanks for your message. I think the Twin Sister would work well for what you’re describing. Size-wise, I would put your “typical all-mountain length” right around 149. With the EUR41.5 Moto’s, if they were a good fit, I would be looking at the 149. But given you typically wear a EUR 38 – 38.5, which suggests a mondopoint (length in foot in cms) of 24cm to 24.5cm, I would be inclined to size down to the 146. The Twin Sister is wider than a typical women’s board, and how wide a board feels relates more to your foot size than your boot size, in my experience. Your boot size is more relevant when a board is potentially too narrow. Even in the 41.5 Motos, I don’t think you’d have boot drag issues (I can give you some calculations if you want them) on the 146, so even if you don’t change your boots straight away, the 146 would still be your best bet, IMO. The 149 wouldn’t be wrong, but that extra width makes the 146 a little more optimal, IMO. With the boots, it sounds like they are likely too big for you and would suggest changing, but I know how pricey gear can be and it’s not always possible to change everything at once.
Another option is the Hel Yes, which is a similar board, but this would be better in the 149, IMO. It’s 3mm narrower at the waist vs the 149 Twin Sister and while it’s the same tip/tail width, it’s narrower at the inserts (and the waist) and it also has a slightly smaller effective edge, so should feel a little smaller in the 149 vs the 149 Twin Sister.
Both would work well, IMO, but I’d be leaning towards the Hel Yes mostly because sizing is a little more suitable, but if you didn’t have that available and only the Twin Sister, it would still be a really good choice for what you’re after, IMO.
Hope this helps with your decision
Tatiana says
Hi Nate, thanks a lot! Yes, I will take a look at the Hel Yes. Thank you!
In terms of the boots, yes, I will change them after next season together with new bindings. So far I’m planning to set up my old Burton Custom bindings, here is how they look like: image link. Do you think I can configure them on Twin Sister if I buy new disks – burton 4 x 4 disc? I’ll also ask it in the store, of course:)
And, the last questions – what new Burton boots and bindings would you recommend to buy for Twin Sister board? If you have any recommendations here)
Nate says
Hi Tatiana
Yeah, they will go on the Twin Sister with that disc, so long as the disc fits in your bindings. Which they should, but not 100% on that.
For boots and bindings, I would go for something at least 5/10 flex and up to 7/10 flex. From Burton there are quite a few options in that range:
Boots
– Felix Boa (6/10 flex by our feel)
– Ritual LTD Boa (5/10 flex by our feel)
– Limelight or Limelight BOA (5/10 5/10 flex by our feel)
– Supreme (7/10 5/10 flex by our feel)
Ideally Felix, but Limelight is a good cheaper alternative. If you wanted to go stiffer, the Supreme could work too.
Bindings
– Escapade Re:Flex (5.5/10 by our feel)
– Lexa Re:Flex (5.5/10 by our feel)
– Lexa X Re:Flex (7/10 flex by our feel)
I’d say Escapade ideally, but the Lexa is considerably lower in price and will do the job almost as well.
Emilia says
Hey,
I’m looking for a board for myself. Im 170cm and 75kg. I ride a nitro mystique 152 but it becomes more and more chatterly. I feel unstable whenever I try to go faster or carve. The powder (which we don’t have much in Europe) feels awesome but I don’t really have a compqrison. I want a board that would let me progress. I wanna catch up with my faster friends but I also want to be able to ride switch.
I think the twin sister might be good but I have a small dilemma whether 152 or 154 is optimal. What do you think? Are there other boards you’d recommend?
Nate says
Hi Emilia
Thanks for your message. We have not tested the Mystique, so can’t give a true comparison, but based on the specs of the Mystique you are likely to get a good improvement in terms of stability at speed and carving on the Twin Sister and should be something you can progress on much further than you could on the Mystique, but without being super hard to ride or anything. Another similar option you could look at would be the YES Hel Yes.
Size-wise, I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 153/154, so both the 152 and 155 in both the Twin Sister and Hel Yes would be options and neither would be wrong. The 152s would still give you, based on specs of the Mystique, a good boost in terms of speed, stability at speed and float in powder, but the 155s would take those aspects to another level. The 152s would be more agile and easier riding. For carving, long, drawn out high-speed carves would be a little better on the 155s, but tighter, sharper carves would likely feel better on the 152s.
If you could also let me know your boot size, to confirm that those will work – and it could also help to lean towards one or the other (i.e. if the boards are wide for your feet, then sizing to the 152 would make more sense).
Hope this helps with your decision
Emilia says
Hey Nate, Thank you!
My shoe size is 41eu/ 9.5. I did have a look at Yes Hel Yes and I like it from the specs perspective, but the graphic doesnt really convince me.
Nate says
Hi Emilia
Thanks for the extra info. I would be leaning 152 on the Twin Sister. It’s quite a wide board and wider than it looks just looking at the waist as well. I would err going to the 152 for that reason. The 155 wouldn’t be wrong, but I would be leaning 152 for the Twin Sister. For some other boards, you might be better on something in that 153-155 range, but in this case I’d go 152.
Lauren says
I am weight 160lbs, womens boot size 7, height 5’ 7” and am looking to purchase the twin sister or dream weaver. I have been riding a capita birds of a feather at 148cm for the last 6 years. I am on the advanced side of intermediate (level 6) and want an all mountain board that can do it all – trees, uneven terrain, steeps, and groomers. I am unsure on what size would be best for me. I purchased my boaf when I was quite a bit lighter so wonder if I should now be riding 152.
Nate says
Hi Lauren
Thanks for your message.
I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 153, so the 152 for the Twin Sister would make sense. The only hesitation there is that it’s going to be wide for your feet. And the combination of that width and length makes it on the bigger side for you, IMO. Particularly in trees, you may not find it easy to weave as quickly edge-to-edge as you might like. If you like to ride fast and are finding with the 148 BOAF that you’re not getting the stability at speed you want and if riding fast is something that you do more often than trees, then the 152 could work. But if you’re not riding that fast and/or haven’t found the BOAF 148 to be wobbly at speed and/or you ride fast sometimes, but you prefer trees and would prioritize maneuverability over stability, then I would be leaning 149.
Same applies to the Dream Weaver, except the debate would be between the 154 and 151, as it’s a board you can ride a little longer.
Hope this helps with your decision
Nici says
Hi Nate,
thanks for your detailed review, it has been really helpful!
I am considering the Jones twin sister. I am an intermediate level 5 all-terrain but mainly on the slopes but would like to progress my freestyle riding and small jumps. I am unsure which size suits me best. I am 5’5” (168cm) and around 141 lbs weraring boots size 8,5. The size guide on the Jone website recomments either 146 or 149. Since i would like get a little more into freestyle riding and jumping I am leaning towards the 146 but am a little hesistant because my current board that i learned on is a 149. What would you recommend?
Thank you so much in advance!
Best regards
Nate says
Hi Nici
Thanks for your message.
I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 149, so that would be the best all-round length for you, IMO. However, if you wanted to make freestyle easier to learn and progress with, then the 146 would be your best bet – and still within range. Also, as a level 5 intermediate, it doesn’t hurt to size down a little either. The 146 would be a bit of an adjustment from what you learnt on, but would allow for easier freestyle progression and it’s typically easier to adjust down than up. What was the board you learned on? If it’s a softer, more mellow board, then you shouldn’t loose anything in terms of stability, but would depend on the board you learned on.
Hope this helps with your decision
Kt says
Hey. Great reviews. I have the Jones dream Catcher in a 145, I love it, but want something for more switch riding and tricks like jumps and 180s.
I’m a solid intermediate rider. 125 lbs, 5″2, size 6 feet.
I think the twin sister might be the best choice for me, but I’m unsure if I should for for the 140 or 143. I like stability for speed, but I also like quick turns, and ease for getting better at switch riding.
Other boards that peaked my interest were the Arbor Camber Swoon, and the Yes Rival.
Thanks so much 🙂
Nate says
Hi KT
Thanks for your message.
The Twin Sister would work for sure. And is, in our experience, better for switch, jumps and 180s, while being an all-round good board for everything else. I think would be a great choice, if you were going to be replacing the Dream Catcher. And would also work as a compliment to the Dream Catcher, if you wanted to keep both as part of a quiver. However, if you wanted a bigger contrast in your quiver, then going with something true twin and more freestyle oriented would give you that more specialized board for doing your freestyle stuff. In which case the YES Rival would be a good bet. Or you could also check out something from one of the following:
>>My Top 5 Women’s Freestyle Snowboards
>>My Top 5 Women’s All-Mountain Freestyle Snowboards
Size-wise, I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 144, but with your boot size, would ideally size down a little from that. I think the Dream Catcher is fine for you in the 145 and even better at that length if it ends up being a board as part of your quiver. For the Twin Sister, if it’s going to be your one board, to replace the Dream Catcher, then you could go either 140 or 143 – the 140 would be better for tricks/freestyle stuff and better for quick turns, but the 143 more stable at speed and better float in powder. If it was going to be in addition to your Dream Catcher, then I’d go 140 for sure.
For the Rival, the 140. For the Swoon Camber, the 143. Swoon Camber would be a good choice if you were replacing the Dream Catcher and weren’t concerned with powder performance. But I would go Cadence Camber if getting a complimentary board to the Dream Catcher.
Hope this helps
Ann says
Hi Nate,
reading through your posts and the reviews and love how detailed and descriptive your information is.
It’s also making me question and debate what board to get. I’m debating between the Jones Twin Sister and The Jones Dream Weaver. I’m an intermediate rider on the west coast, mainly ride resorts/groomers and working on building confidence and advance in my carving and freestyle. Nothing too extreme but would like to advance in my riding, and not grow out of my board. Aiming for a daily, all-mountain board as my only board.
I’m 5’3”, 160 lbs, wear a size 10 boot, and ride goofy but occasionally will ride switch.
I have Union Legacy large women’s bindings and with the Dream Weaver size 151 they have a bit of overhang which concerns me, so need a wider board. I currently ride a K2 size 147 which is a beginner board. Really was aiming for the Dream Weaver but 154 doesn’t seem ideal, it being possibly too long for short, quick, carving down steep hills, but nervous that the Twin Sister is more stiffer for my liking. Any suggestions would be awesome!
Nate says
Hi Ann
Thanks for your message (I got your other message too, but was the same, so I’m only posting this one to keep things tidy).
We’ve actually felt the Dream Weaver and the Twin Sister to be a very similar feeling flex (and I feel the same with the men’s equivalent Frontier/Mountain Twin), even though Jones rate the Twin Sister as being stiffer. For us they both feel around that 6/10 flex. And the Twin Sister will be better for progressing your freestyle stuff. The Dream Weaver is overall a little bit of an easier ride, but not by as much as you’d think. The Twin Sister is snappier/springier than the Dream Weaver, so while it’s a little more advanced, you can definitely get those short/quite carves going. But I agree for the Dream Weaver not to go to 154 (more on that later).
The Dream Weaver and Twin Sister are some of the wider women’s boards out there (apart from short/wide options), so I think they should work well for your feet/boots in terms of width, around the length that would work well for you (more on that below). But the Legacy (and the Men’s Union Strata) have longer than average footbeds, so you can sometimes run into the problem with them overhanging even on boards that are wide enough for your boots. Now, while boot overhang (up to a certain point) is a good thing, we don’t want too much binding overhang – as they are closer to the snow so less angle is required before they start dragging. However, you can get away with a little bit of binding overhang typically. So, it would really depend on how much they’re overhanging. Note also that footbed overhang isn’t as bad as baseplate overhang, as the footbed is higher up – and you’ll notice how the Legacy angles up from the baseplate to the footbed, so that the footbed is sticking out more than the baseplate. If you were able to one thing you could do is put boots in the bindings on the board and lean it up and see which touches first, the binding or the toe of the boot. If it’s the boot, then you should be good. Note also that if it’s just overhanging the top sheet edge but not actually extending beyond the metal edge on the base, then you won’t have any issues.
We measured the Twin Sister 146 to be around 256mm at the back insert and 254mm at the front insert. Which should be fine for your boot size, IMO. And when you go to the 149, which is the size I’d go for, for you, it’s going to be 2mm wider. So no issues with width in terms of boots. It’s just whether the Legacy will work on there.
In terms of length, I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 151cm. But for the Twin Sister I would size it top 149. The Dream Weaver can be ridden a little longer than the Twin Sister, so I think the 151 would be your best bet. But the 154 would be too big, IMO.
Width-wise the Dream Weaver 151 should be around 255mm at the front inserts and 257mm at the back insert – so again, should be wide enough for your boots, the only thing being the bindings.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
Ann says
Wow, I really really appreciate your response! Thank you! It definitely helped and I went with the Twin Sister 149! It’s been hard to adjust to, given it’s a hybrid and feels a bit long since I’ve been riding a camber and a 147, but stability is great. I tried it out and definitely agree with everything you said. I did have trouble with catching edge toe-side so the Union Legacy bindings being large makes sense. Although their response was great, they were also giving me issues, so now I’m looking for new bindings. Any suggestions on which bindings would work best for the Jones Twin Sister board with my size 10 boot?
Thank you for your time.
Nate says
Hi Ann
Thanks for the update. For bindings with the Twin Sister, I would look at the Burton Escapade, Burton Lexa, Rome Brass and Union Trilogy.
Ann says
Thank you for the suggestions. Deciding between Burton Escapades and Union Trilogy. I’ve noticed you recommend the Escapades more often and for the Jones Twin Sister. I’m curious if the escapades would work long term for me given that I plan to have this board for many seasons to advance in? Given my riding being in between semi aggressive and playful, wondering if would feel much difference between the 2?
Thank you in advance!!
Nate says
Hi Ann
I think the biggest difference you will notice is the board feel. The Escapades have better board feel – which I like to have for butters, ollies, popping off sidehits, etc. The board feel on the Escapades is more similar to the Legacy. Not the same, because they achieve board feel in different ways. The Legacy has a mini-disc, which reduces the deadspot underfoot, by having a smaller disc – this allows the board to flex more naturally underfoot.
The Escapade ReFlex, on the other hand (and you’d have to go ReFlex, rather than EST on the Twin Sister as EST only works with Burton’s channel system – you probably knew that, but I like to make sure, in case people go and buy the EST version!), essentially have a split base plate. The middle of the base plate underfoot isn’t connected by any solid material, which allows those two halves to flex more indecently of each other, allowing better board feel that way. The Trilogy has a large disc and nothing else to really help it with board feel. That said, the board feel isn’t too bad on it considering, but it’s not as good as on something like the Legacy or Escapade. Other things affect board feel too – like the thickness and flex of the baseplate.
If someone is planning on using the Twin Sister for freestyle at all, then I would typically recommend the Escapade over the Trilogy for this reason.
Also note that the Trilogy has been redesigned for the 2024 model, so it would also depend on which model you’re looking at. If it’s an older Trilogy, then that had better response than the new trilogy, but didn’t feel as good for slower speeds, the new Trilogy sacrifices some carving performance for better slow speed performance, so it’s now more similar to something like the Escapade for slow speed and high speed/carving performance, whereas before the Trilogy was better for high speed/carving than the Escapade but not as good for slower speed stuff.
Ryan says
Hi Nate,
Thanks for all of the excellent information on your site. It has been a blessing for me outfitting my family with gear.
I have kind of an odd question for you, I found a used 2022 Twin Sister 152 for sale that is in perfect condition, looks unused, at a great price.
My son is 15, 5’6, 129lbs. Wears a men’s size 9 boot. I would classify him as a strong intermediate rider. We ride in the Rocky Mountains, Lake Louise and Fernie most often. He is an all mountain freestyle type of rider, loves to jump off of whatever he can find, but also likes to get into deep stuff or trees at times and will spend some time in the park, but a quiver is definitely not an option.
Would this board fit his needs? Is it more softer than the mountain twin in the same length being designed for a woman? Would it be too narrow for his boots?
Looking for a win on a tight budget.
Thanks
Nate says
Hey Ryan
Thanks for your message. I think the board would work well for how you describe your son’s riding and I don’t think he’ll find it too soft at his weight, especially in the 152. The Twin Sister might be a little softer than Mountain Twin, but not by much and at his weight, should be no issues with it feeling too soft, IMO.
Width-wise, I think he’ll be OK on it for now. It’s going to be around 256mm at the front insert and 258mm at the back insert, which is wide enough for 9s, IMO. And that’s at a 490mm (19.3″) stance width. This might be around the stance width your son uses, but he’s unlikely to use narrower. At a wider stance width it will be wider at the inserts. Probably around 258-259mm at the front and 260-261mm at the back. This is one of the wider women’s boards around (not counting short/wide boards).
Length-wise, I would say it’s on the longer side for him. I would be looking more at a 147-149 at this stage. However, as he is likely to add weight and height and maybe even quickly at that age, it’s a board he’s likely to grow into very quickly and at 152, it can probably stay with him for quite a long time. But just note that I don’t think it’s the ideal size for him for right now. He’s likely to adapt though and can grow into it and have it for several years most likely. The only issue there is that his feet are also likely to grow, so he could potentially outgrow the width. That said, as he grows he will likely widen his stance, which will give him a bit more leeway.
Assuming he’s riding angles like +15/-15 or similar, then he should be good on the 530mm stance up to US Men’s 10s. If his feet grow to a point of needing 10.5s or up though, he’s likely to need to get a wider board.
Hope this helps with your decision
Ryan says
Yup. Great info once again. Thanks!!
Nate says
You’re very welcome Ryan. Hope you your family have a great season!
Michael says
Hi Nate,
I’m considering either the twin sister or dream weaver for my 15 year old daughter for the upcoming season. She is above beginner but maybe not a solid intermediate just yet but progressing fast. She does ride a little switch. I would prefer something she could grow with that would still be great for her later, assuming she becomes solid intermediate and beyond intermediate. She is right around 166 CM or maybe just under and about 77-78 kg, so average height but heavier. She wears size 7-US boots. What size in each of these two boards would you suggest for where she is now and what size would you suggest if she were a solid intermediate or above intermediate? Do you think I should go for something different altogether like a more beginner/intermediate board? I would think she would be OK and progress decently and then have a solid board as she advances. I’m trying to avoid the situation of changing boards every season or so but don’t want to hinder her progress either. Not sure if it matters but we are in Colorado.
Thanks for your advice!
Best,
Michael
Nate says
Hi Michael
The Dream Weaver and Twin Sister aren’t super technical boards to ride, so I think she could get away with them. The Dream Weaver I think would be the most suitable for right now. It’s not as good for riding switch, which is the one hesitation, but otherwise that’s what I’d be leaning towards. That said, the Twin Sister isn’t a huge step up from it or anything.
Size-wise, for right now, I think the 149 would be the best bet in the Twin Sister – as a more advanced rider, the 152 would be a good bet.
For the Dream Weaver, it’s a board you can ride a little longer, so for right now, I’d say the 151. And as a more advanced ride, the 154 would be a good choice, but the 151 would still work.
Hope this gives you more to go off.
Andreea says
Hi Nate!
First, thank you for the great content you share with us! Secondly, I could really appreciate some advice regarding the size for my next board.
I have been riding for 3 years (frequently) and based on your scale I’ve reached Intremediate 6 level.
My current board is a Rome Royale 2020 147 cm (true twin, super soft, flat rocker) and while it’s great for switch and buttering, it feels unstable at higher speeds, bumpy terrain and carving (especially on hard snow). I need a more aggresive board that I can use for a bit of everything: what I mentioned above and some jumps, trees, powder.
I think the Twin Sister 146 is a good match for me, however I really like the design of the Mountain Twin but I am concerned that the size 149 (smallest) would slow my progress.
In case it helps, I rode a 149 Nideker mid flex rental and I’ve adjusted to it pretty quickly. It felt way better at carve/speed even though it took a little more effort to jump and initiate turns.
Hight: 166cm
Weight: 57-58kg
Boot: 24.5cm
Please let me know your thoughts.:)
Thanks!
Nate says
Hi Andreea
Thanks for your message.
I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 147, so whilst I don’t think 149 would be too much of a stretch, I think the 146 Twin Sister would be the better size match. Partly because of the length but mostly because of the width. This board is wider than it looks just based on the waist, and overall wider than a typical women’s board (149 Mountain Twin is same specs as 149 Twin Sister). Even the 146 is on the wider side but that little bit of extra width, teamed with the 146 length, I think that size works well. But the combo of the width and length in the 149 makes it overall bigger than I’d typically recommend for your specs. Again, a 149 just considering length is within range, but couple with the width, I would go 146 and take the design-hit.
Hope this helps with your decision
Jenny says
Hey Nate, After reading some of your posts/comments I’ve decided the Capita Paradise probably isn’t for me since I tend to ride in hard/icy conditions at times. So now I’m deciding between the Twin Sister 143 and the Lib Tech T.Ripper grom board (it’s only in 141 & 146). What are your opinions on these boards for my size and ability?
I am a 4+ level, 42 years old, 120-125lbs, 5”2’ and size 8 boot. I would like to progress in a way that I can keep up with my kids on groomers & powder but not looking to hit the park or anything. I mostly ride in Northern Michigan but we do spend at least a couple of weeks out west every year.
What are your thoughts on these boards for my size & riding style?
Thanks in advance!
Nate says
Hi Jenny
I think the 143 Twin Sister would work – and certainly better in icy conditions, IMO. It’s a bit more of a step up from something like the Paradise and perhaps not the first I would suggest for level 4, but it’s doable. The size is good, IMO.
The T Ripper is more freestyle oriented, that’s not to say that it wouldn’t be appropriate, but I don’t have a lot of experience with youth boards, so I’m not sure how the flex would translate versus something like the Twin Sister or Paradise. I think the 141 size would work, but my biggest concern is that it may be softer flexing than it looks. It may not be too, but can’t say for sure. It’s the more uncertain option from my point of view.
Jenny Wengreen says
Your response is greatly appreciated! Thank you!
Yeah, there isn’t a ton of reviews and info out there about the T Ripper which is why I’m feeling hesitant about it. It does seem softer than the Twin Sister and has that magna traction edge which is why I was considering it. In your opinion, why don’t you consider the twin sister ideal for my level? Is it a board that would be difficult to progress on? What other options do you suggest?
Jenny Wengreen says
One more thing! Not sure if it makes a huge difference but I misspoke earlier-I’m definitely a level 5, not 4. Thanks again!
Nate says
Hi Jenny
Twin Sister just a little bit of a stretch for beginners mostly because of the flex. It’s not super stiff or anything, but a more challenging ride when you’re just learning. However, as a level 5, rather than 4, I think you should be fine with it.
Jenny says
Thanks again for the solid advice. Someone recommended the Jones Dream Weaver in size 145 for me. What’s your opinion on this board for my ability and the larger size of 145? My hesitation of the dream weaver is that it’s supposedly not as good on ice/hard snow. But being a softer board is it closer to my ability level? Thanks again!
Nate says
Hi Jenny
In my experience with the Mountain Twin/Frontier (men’s equivalents of Twin Sister and Dream Weaver) there’s no real discernable difference in flex – if anything the Frontier was a little stiffer. And for the testers that rode the Twin Sister and Dream Weaver they found the same thing. So I don’t think flex should be a big deciding factor. The main differences between the two that I would consider.
– The Twin Sister is a snappier board with more spring out of turns
– The Dream Weaver is better for smoother, longer carves
– The Dream Weaver is a little better in powder, being more directional
– The Twin Sister is better for spins, jumps, switch etc
Given that you’re not really doing any of that freestyle stuff, I think the Dream Weaver is certainly suitable for you and it’s not a more challenging ride than the Twin Sister, so level-wise, I think you’d be good. Size-wise, I agree with the 145 as well. The Dream Weaver is something you can ride in a longer size. I didn’t experience any noticeable difference in hard/icy conditions.
Jenny says
I know you don’t have a lot of experience in youth boards, but I throw this out there anyways…what are your thoughts on the Jones youth flagship 142? The youth version is rated a 5 for flex, not nearly as stiff as the adult flagship. Could it be used as an all mountain board? Again, I have no interest in going in the park, just cruising.
Nate says
Hi Jenny
Yeah, unfortunately I don’t know for sure with youth boards, but assuming that flex level is fairly accurate, then it could be an option. The Flagship is a lot more directional than either the Twin Sister or Dream Weaver – but if you’re not intending on riding any switch, then that shouldn’t be a problem. There is taper too (nose wider than the tail) but it’s not as aggressive as on the women’s version (8mm of taper vs 14mm of taper on the women’s version). Taper helps with riding in powder and the ability to skid the tail out in tight conditions, like in trees. But can feel a little washy on deep, aggressive carves. When the taper is more subtle then it’s less noticeable on big carves.
Other factors of the youth version vs the women’s version, I’m not sure how they would differ. The softer flex would certainly make it a mellower, more manageable ride though. In theory it could work, but I couldn’t say with confidence if it would be a good bet or not.
Jenny says
You the man, Nate 👊 Thanks for all your help!! I ended up getting the Dream Weaver 145.
Nate says
You’re very welcome Jenny. Hope it treats you well and hope you have an awesome season!
Katie says
I am 5’6”, around 135 but sometimes less, and 8.5 shoe size. I am going back and forth between the 146 and the 149 for the 2022 twin sister. My last board was a hand-me-down that was a bit too big for me I think, and I would say I reached intermediate level on it. Do you have an opinion that you can offer on which size I should get?
Nate says
Hi Katie
Thanks for your message.
I would be leaning 146 for you. I think something around 148 would be your “standard all-mountain” size. As an intermediate rider doesn’t hurt to go down a couple of centimeters, so I would be erring shorter than 148 than longer. That said, if you’re previous board was considerably bigger and that’s what you’re used to, the 146 may feel a little small, and that could be a reason to go to 149. But otherwise, I would go 146.
Hope this helps with your decision
Katie says
Thank you very much for your insight, that does help my choice! I would like to commit to the twin sister and if I do will follow your recommendation below. However based on your answer do you think it would be better for me to look for a board that is right at 148 instead? I also considered the ladies choice which has a 148.5 but I initially moved away from that board as it seemed a bit more inclined for park than I typically ride.
Nate says
Hi Katie
Yeah, the Ladies Choice is a little more park/freestyle focused, but it’s still good for all-mountain. It’s what I would call an all-mountain-freestyle board. But not quite as good for things like carving, powder and speed as the Twin Sister. In terms of sizing, can you let me know what your last board was and it’s size. 146 is pretty much right on for your specs as an intermediate rider, so I would be leaning that way. But want to take into account what you’ve been riding as well.
Katie says
Hi Nate, this is really great info thank you!
I’m not actually sure of the height of my last board (it was given to me before I really knew much and I never looked) and unfortunately it was stolen so I can’t confirm. However it was a womens burton board, twin. Based on memory compared with the boards I have been looking at it was likely around 149 and was a bit wider at the waist. I liked the board once I finally learned how to ride it but it did take some time to be comfortable. I apologize for not having more detail on this!
I typically ride the groomers and go in the trees from time to time but would like to build skill with speed and possibly small jumps. My old board could be a bit cumbersome and heavy at times which made it hard to advance these. With the twin sister, do you think the 146 would allow me to increase to advanced level and still ride it after in terms of speed / stability?
Katie says
A correction to my earlier comment, I should have said “at least” 149 instead of around
Nate says
Hi Katie
I don’t think you could make a bad choice between the 146 and 149, but I would still be leaning 146. It’s going to really help you in the trees and for learning jumps in that size, but it’s still going to be stable enough for your specs. Without knowing the actual board you were riding or size, it’s hard to say whether it will be more or less or about the same in terms of stability at speed, but for your specs, it should be fine.
Caroline says
Hi Nate!
I’ve been wanting to get a new all mountain board, and had been debating whether to get this Jones twin sister or not. I ended up getting a Salomon Rumble Fish today (not sure if you’re familiar with this one?), but now that I’ve read your review, I’m questioning if I should return/exchange it with this.
I have the Jones dream catcher splitboard as I’m starting backcountry this year, so I don’t know if you think that’s a bit redundant. I need a new board for riding the resort, when I don’t know how the condition is going to be, and in a day of switching around between off-piste, groomers, icy, bumps, everything in between. I don’t ride freestyle at all. I need something that can cover all those, go fast on steeps, stable, but also easy to maneuver as I ride on Whistler in Canada mostly, and most of the time it’s either hard-packed or bumpy on the steeps (I can use my new split for the odd pow days at the resort).
What do you think?? Should I exchange the Salomon?
Thank you so much in advance!!!
Nate says
Hi Caroline
Thanks for your message.
I think the Twin Sister would certainly work well for what you’re describing, but the Rumble Fish is also well suited to it. I think if you were going to be using the board in powder more, then the Twin Sister over the Rumble Fish, but as a resort board, I think the Rumble Fish works, particularly if you plan to use the Dream Catcher Split for powder days. So yeah, I don’t think it would have been wrong to go Twin Sister, but the Rumble Fish also works, if you didn’t want to change it.
Hope this helps
Joanne says
HI Nate,
After lots of research I purchased a Twin Sister 149 cm for my daughter. She is an advanced rider, 5″7″, 130-135lbs 8.5 boot. Now I’m second guessing the size after reading the above recommendations. This will likely be the main board in her quiver. Should I downsize to the 146? She’s fast on the groomers, rides in the trees and is starting to take some jumps as well.
Nate says
Hi Joanne
Thanks for your message.
It’s a tight call between the 149 and 146 for your daughter. At 5’7″ and 135lbs, as an advanced rider, I think 149 is about right. The 146 would still be an option, particularly for the likes of riding in trees and for starting out on jumps, but for speed and stability at speed the 149 is going to be better – and better in powder. Overall, I think 149 is a good choice. Also should be a good width (but the 146 would be fine width-wise too)
Is she still growing? If so that would have me leaning even more towards the 149. If not, then it’s close and would really depend on whether she valued better maneuverability or more stability more.
Hope this helps
Alex says
Hi Nate
I’m really impressed with the careful answers you’ve given to the queries above and wonder if you could manage one more? I’m shopping for boards in September, ever hopeful we will have a season this year!
I’m looking at both Jones boards, TS and DC. I am an intermediate rider, a few seasons under my belt, all terrain, like to go off-piste and love powder. I am never going to go to a park or try tricks, but I have found that occasionally riding switch is useful for tricky situations. I have 2 questions:
1. Your reviews don’t mention moguls (bumps in American I think?). The place I ride there are a lot of them, big, steep mogul fields. I can’t avoid them, especially since I’ll be with skiing friends. What kind of board would tackle these conditions best?
2. I’m 5’4″ (164cm) and 57kg (126lbs). I’ve been riding a Rome 150cm board, which may be a little long. What size would you recommend?
Alex
Nate says
Hi Alex
Thanks for your message.
If you’re looking at 2021 models, then in terms of moguls, they’re pretty even. Prior to 2021 models the Dream Catcher was a little more agile and would probably handle that bumpy terrain better. Part of the uneven terrain rating covers moguls/bumps. But the 2021 Twin Sister has improved in that area, so I’d say they’re fairly even. If you’r looking at 2020 models, then I would go Dream Catcher. If looking at 2021 models, then it’s a close call. I would say both pretty even in uneven terrain/moguls, the Twin Sister a little better for switch and the Dream Catcher a little better in powder. If you’re only riding switch very briefly, then I think the Dream Catcher would likely be good enough.
Size-wise, for your specs, I would be looking at something around 146, 147. In the Twin Sister’s case I think the 146 would be the best size for you and for the Dream Cather I would go 148. The Dream Catcher is the kind of board that can be ridden a little longer, so the 146 Twin Sister and 148 Dream Catcher will likely feel a similar length. Either size would work really well for you, IMO.
Hope this helps with your decision
Alex says
That is hugely helpful Nate. Thanks so much. I was looking at 2020 boards to make the most of the plentiful discounts that are around. In the light of your wisdom, I will go for the 148 Dream Catcher.
Nate says
Hi Alex
You’re very welcome. Good call, if you’re going 2020, IMO
Ralu says
Hello. I would like your help .i have chosen the twin sister but i m not sure what size its best for me 1.46 or 1.43
Im intermediate, 1.55 cm hight 48 kg and 6 boot size
I prefer to ride on piste, mid speed.
Nate says
Hi Ralu
Thanks for your message.
For your specs, I think both of those are a bit too long. I think the 139 would be your best bet for the Twin Sister, especially given that it’s going to be on the wide side for your boots. But even if it wasn’t I think 139 would be the better size for you. The only reason to go longer than that, is if you’ve always ridden boards in the mid 140s. Then you could probably stretch to the 143. But based on specs alone, I would recommend the 139 for you.
Hope this helps with your decision
Kerstin says
Hi Nate,
first of all thanks for your (Ash’s) efforts you made in testing and detailed reporting of women’s boards! That is really helpful.
I am closed to go for the twin sister, but have some minor doubts due to my physical data :-). I am small (1,63m) but quite heavy (88kg), shoe size 40 (EU). Riding irregularly for abt. 20yrs, so intermediate I would say, preferably powder, but also fun slopes, like to ride switch and of course do common terrain (rarely icey). My current FTWO all mountain board has a length of 1,46m and I am fine with it, but to be honest never tried another one (beyond the ones I rented at my early beginnings).
To keep a long story short – I would like to go for the twin sister with the length of 1,46m as I am comfy with and used to it, but I am not sure if I am to heavy for this length and should better go for 1,49m at least. As I am out of the common size-hight-weight-range I know that I have to make compromises but would be glad to get feedback and hear your opinion.
Furthermore I would like to know whether the dream catcher might be the better choice due to my skills, preferred terrain and physical aspects or not.
Thanks in advance.
Nate says
Hi Kerstin
Thanks for your message.
Generally speaking in terms of size, I would say more like 155 for your specs, as an advanced rider. As an intermediate rider, I would say more like 151-153. So typically I would recommend the 152 Twin Sister for you. However, given that you are used to riding a 146, over a long period of time, that should be taken into account as well. So, I would recommend going longer than the 146 for sure, but perhaps the 149 makes the most sense, given what you’ve been riding.
Between the Twin Sister and Dream Catcher – you would get a little more powder performance from the Dream Catcher, but the Twin Sister is better for riding switch. Both boards are fine at both of those things, but that might help you to decide between them. If you were going to go 149 for Twin Sister, then I would go 151 for the Dream Catcher. It’s a board that can be ridden a little longer.
Hope this helps
Kerstin says
Hi Nate,
thanks a lot. I will consider to go for the 152cm Twin Sister.
Nate says
You’re very welcome Kerstin.
Just to clarify, the 149 is an option too, if you preferred to stay shorter.
Linda says
Hi Nate,
I am 5’5” (166 cm) and 113 lbs (51kg) without gears. I read your review for this Jones Twin Sister, I believe this will be my next board. I go to Jones website and see their size chart. It is annoying me that I am in the range of 90-140 lbs for 139cm board in Jones chart. I never ride board in such short, I have tried some boards in 141-145 cm. The next level in Jones is 143 cm for the riders in 100-150 lbs. I am kind of lower bound for 143 cm. Do you think 139 cm could be a good fit for me? I am an intermediate player, hoping Twin Sister can be all-in-one board, little bit carving, stable enough in fast, and easy for quick turn in tree and powder day.
Thanks,
Linda
Nate says
Hi Linda
Thanks for your message.
The Twin Sister is a very good all rounder, so yeah, definitely an all-in-one board.
Size-wise, I think the 143 is doable for you – I would say that something around 143, 144 is a good length for you, at an advanced level. Being an intermediate rider, you could go down to the 139. Certainly as a beginner I would say 139, but as an intermediate rider both would work – but given that you’re used to riding longer, that make the 143 more appealing.
However, it is a relatively wide board compared to a lot, so it might be a case that sizing down to 139 makes sense, depending on your boot size. If you can let me know your boot size, that would help to make a more accurate recommendation. If it’s quite wide for your boots, then that tends to affect quickness of turns, so that could be a good reason to size to the 139, depending on boot size.
Hope this helps
Linda says
Hi Nate, I am wearing Burton Felix size 7. I also take time to read your top 10 boards, and GNU Ladies Choice and Jones Dream Catcher are attractive. What are the boards sizes you recommend me for those three boards (Ladies Choice, Twin Sister and Dream Catcher)?
I am also looking the Burton Feelgood Flying V (read your review, not good in edge holding?). If I have to pick only one board for my ride, so really one board rules all cases (stable, handling mid-fast speed I don’t go super fast :-P, reverse foot, edge holding on ice I live eastern coast we have a lot of ice this year! and easy to butter) I know my question may be not reaslistic, but it is really appreciated if you could recommend me the one among of those four?
thanks,
Linda.
Nate says
Hi Linda
For your boot size, I would probably size down to the 139 for the Twin Sister. For the Dream Catcher, which is also quite wide, I would go for the 142. Whilst it’s also quite wide, it’s also something that can be ridden a little longer, so I think the 142 would work. For the Ladies Choice, the 142.5 would be a good choice. It’s a narrower board and a good width for your boots, IMO.
The Feelgood Flying V not that good in hard/icy conditions, IMO, so given where you live, probably less appropriate. The rest are good in those conditions, IMO.
The Twin Sister & Dream Catcher are the better choices for powder and for stability at higher speeds. The Ladies Choice is better for buttering and for riding switch. I think the Ladies Choice is the better size for you. But it’s whether you can sacrifice a little in terms of speed and powder vs the other 2. It’s not bad in those areas, but not as good as the other 2. It’s also got a slightly looser feel. Not super loose by any means, but not as stable as the Twin Sister and Dream Catcher.
Linda says
Hi Nate, thanks for your answer. I will follow your recommendation to go with GNU Ladies Choice. But what size should I pick 139.5 or 142.5? I read GNU size chart I should be in the range of weight for 139.5 cm but like you said it is a relatively narrower board with only 22.6cm waist width for 139.5 and 23.2cm for 142.5 board. Should I go with 139.5? I personally prefer shorter board specially this board is perfect for buttering and riding in the trees. The only concern now is the board length and waist. Do you think 139.5 board will cause any issue in waist width for my boots? Or you still believe the 142.5 is the better length for me? Thanks Linda
Nate says
Hi Linda
If you think you want to ride something shorter, then the 139.5 would certainly work for your specs. As an overall all-mountain option, I think the 142.5 is probably the best size for you. But that was also based on a comment earlier where you were concerned about going less than 141 as you hadn’t ridden that short before ” I never ride board in such short, I have tried some boards in 141-145 cm”. But the 139.5 is certainly in your range. Just at the shorter end of your range, IMO. If you want to get the most out of trees and buttering, then the 139.5 is a perfectly valid option for you.
In terms of width, with size 7s, I think you should be fine width-wise on the 139.5cm. GNU boards do have a smaller difference between the waist width and the width at inserts (where your bindings/boots actually go), so that might make it a bit tighter. The width on the 142.5 would be a really good fit for your boots though, IMO.
Linda says
Hi Nate, I found your post “How Important is Snowboard Width Sizing and How Do I Get it Right?” is very useful. I read all of them and found the chart you made “When Back Binding is at 15°” for women. For Ladies Choice, I believe I will use +15°/-15° stand, and for size 7, your chart shows “MIN AT 15° (MM)” is 219mm and “MAX AT 15° (MM)” is 229mm. The LC 139.5 cm has waist width 226mm, and 142.5 cm has the waist width 232mm. Should I say 142.5 will have too much overhang for me?
Nate says
Hi Linda
GNU boards tend to have a smaller difference between the waist width and the width at inserts (where the bindings/boots will actually be on the board), so there’s a greater risk for too much overhang on the 139.5 Ladies Choice for that reason. You could possible squeeze it, but I think you would be safer width-wise on the 142.5. I don’t think the width on the 142.5 would have too much underhang for you.