Best All Mountain Snowboards for Women 2022-2023

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1. Nara Henderson says

   April 8, 2023 at 6:21 pm

   Hi! Love this website! I’m looking for a new board to replace my 18 y o Rossi board that I love but need to put to rest, lol. I’m a solid rider, 24 years snowboarding on the West Coast (Canada) mostly at Whistler, Kicking Horse, Mt. Baker, Washington, etc. I ride a mix of groomers (love to go top speed, fast) and off-groomer on a powder day (trees, bowls, chutes, I’m good with all of it). I also like to play around and jump a bit, but nothing huge, and I don’t often ride park. I do ride with experts (mostly skiers) and I’m known to be fast and be able to tackle expert terrain. I don’t want a quiver of boards, hoping to get one board that is snappy, responsive, stable, speedy, floaty, and fun. I’m athletic, 5’9”, 1356lbs. Reading a lot about the Yes Hel Yes and the Jones Twin Sister, wondering if those might be good options? Or maybe something else? I also know there’s been a lot of research done on sizing since I last invested in a board so looking for a recommendation on which board AND which size, if you can! I want this to feel like a superboost to my riding!!

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   • Nate says

     April 10, 2023 at 11:15 am

     Hi Nara

     Thanks for your message.

     I think the likes of the Hel Yes and Twin Sister would give you a good balance between all the things you’re looking for, so should work well. Given how you lioke to ride fast, if you wanted to get more speed-wise out of it, you could also consider something like the Arbor Swoon Camber, Jones Airheart 2.0 or Burton Feelgood, though you’d be sacrificing a little powder performance, IMO, you’d be gaining in terms of speed/stability at speed. And not quite as snappy. If you wanted to favor more on the stability/speed side of things, I’d give them a good look. If you’re wanting that true all-rounder, then the Hel Yes or Twin Sister are your best bets, IMO.

     If you wanted to gain in terms of speed but also in terms of powder, you could also check out some from >>our top 5 Women’s Freeride snowboards list. Not going to be as snappy as the likes of Hel Yes and Twin Sister though but some options you could check out, if you wanted.

     Size-wise, I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 150 (that’s assuming your weight is 135lbs – I’m guessing the 6 on the end was a typo). For more stability at speed and better float in powder, you could err a little longer than that but going too long will take away some of the snap and reduce maneuverability for when you’re in trees and that kind of thing. Given it sounds like you’re mostly in trees when there’s powder, you should be good to go a little longer if you wanted. It will also depend on the size you’re used to riding. If you’re used to riding a 155 or something like for example, then I would err longer but still wouldn’t go as long as that. e.g. if you were to go Hel Yes or Twin Sister, and you’re Rossi is a 155, then I would err more towards 152, rather than 149. If you’re used to riding a 145, then I would err more towards the 149.

     Hope this helps with your decision

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     • Nara says

       April 15, 2023 at 10:19 am

       Thank you this is SO helpful! My Rossi is a Diva 158 (circa 2005). And yes I’m 135lbs lol (not 1356!!!). I would clarify and say my powder riding is equally in trees as it is chutes and bowls with no trees (vaster expanses).

       Given I ride a 158 now, what length do you think? Still 150? Sounds like my current board is a bit too long for me given the new approach around weight instead of just height…?

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     • Nara Henderson says

       April 16, 2023 at 4:47 pm

       Hi Nate! Tried to reply earlier today but I don’t think it went through, so trying again…Yup I’m 135lbs (not 1365 lbs! Lol!). I took your recommendations, and went into some local board shops. The Hel Yes and other “all mountain” boards just didn’t feel or look aggressive or stable enough for me. Given I really ride big mountain, I actually went with a Freeride board – the Jones Flagship Women’s, which you rate as the best one on your Freeride reviews. It looks and feels amazing, can’t wait to take it out on the big mountains!

       I actually ride a 158 Rossi Diva (circa 2005!), so given I’m more interested in stability at high speed and powder on big mountain, steep terrain, I went for the Flagship Women’s 155. I looked at the 152 and it just seemed…tiny? Probably because I’m so used to my old school longer board lol.

       Fingers crossed that I feel the 155 has still got that snappy, responsive feel when needed but will perform well in the big terrain I love to seek out most of the time!

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       • Nate says

         April 17, 2023 at 12:57 pm

         Hi Nara

         Thanks for the update.

         Given you’re used to a 158, I think the 155 should work with the Flagship. With a freeride board like the Flagship, you can err a little longer, since more of the length is outside of it’s effective edge. If you were to have gone Twin Sister or Hel Yes, I would have said 152, but for the Flagship you can go longer – and given what you’re used to riding and how you want to ride, I think the 155 should be fine. Hope it treats you well!

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2. Alvin says

   March 27, 2023 at 1:54 pm

   Hey Nate!

   My gf’s current set up is the Yes basic 143 with US size 7.5 burton felix boa boots. Her height is 161cm and weight is 46-48kg (not wearing snowboard gear). She is an intermediate rider.. mostly on groomed runs. Lately she enjoys carving with more speed. She isn’t super interested in park, but may try a few easy features in the future. She has not ventured off groomed runs, but is open to trying trees. We currently live in California but plan to go out of state/country next season so an “all rounder” all mountain board is ideal. She would like a board that is decent at carving, stable, help with confidence at higher speed, doesn’t have to be freestyle oriented/powder specialist, and preferably not too redundant to her current Yes board (nothing wrong with it, just wanted something different/to complement).

   Not sure on sizing but here’s a list of boards that she’s looking at (open to suggestions):
   -Capita equalizer
   -Capita birds of a feather
   -Jones dream weaver
   -Jones twin sister
   -Burton story board

   Thoughts? Would also appreciate binding recommendations as well. Thank you very much for your help!

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   • Nate says

     March 28, 2023 at 4:01 pm

     Hi Alvin

     Thanks for your message.

     From that list, I think most would serve her well and be a good compliment to the Basic. The only one that I would probably cross off is the Birds of a Feather – and only because it’s not as good a compliment to the Basic. Definitely not the same board as the Basic, but more similar than the rest there. I would go with something that’s not true twin, given she already has a true twin. Of those I would say the Story Board is the biggest contrast to the Basic, followed by Equalizer/Dream Weaver and then Twin Sister but they’re all good compliments, IMO. The Twin Sister is the most “all-rounder” of them, IMO.

     Size-wise, I would put your gf’s “typical all-mountain length” at around 141. Given she’s used to riding something a little longer than that, and that she wants this board to be a little more advanced, stable, etc, I would go with the following:

     -Capita equalizer: 142
     -Jones dream weaver: 142
     -Jones twin sister: 143 (typically I’d say 140 for her specs, though, so the 140 definitely a possibility)
     -Burton story board: 142

     Hope this helps

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3. Nikki says

   March 6, 2023 at 2:52 pm

   Hi Nate! All of your comments and reviews are super helpful. I’ve been boarding for about 15 years now. I used to go a lot (then on the East coast) and for the past 10 or so years typically board 5-8 days a year out west (the past few years primarily in Big Sky). In the future, I will probably still do 5-8 days out west, and am also looking to start getting in more days on the East coast.

   I’m a solid level 6 on your scale, working to be a 7 (minus the park stuff). I’d describe myself as an aggressive rider who likes to bomb groomers and more recently really enjoyed more ungroomed stuff and tree runs. And, although they’re not my favorite, I find myself doing more moguls because most of the tree runs have at least one section of reasonably aggressive moguls.

   I’m 5’3″, 140 lbs. I had my last set up for 15 years — a 147 Head, traditional camber board (it says Glam .47 on the board, but I can’t find any specs on it; the guys at the snowboard shop put it around a 6.5-7/10 flex and said it was a pretty aggressive camber), with Ride Delta Mvmt bindings. I really liked this board, but wanted to upgrade and also try something new, so I bought a NS Infinity 148 and paired it with Union Legacy bindings. My boots are Salomon Ivy SJ Boa (size 7).

   I enjoyed the NS Infinity when there was fresh powder. However, overall, I did not love the surfier feel of the NS Infinity, especially on groomers, and I did not feel like I was setting the edge as well. I’m looking for something that is going to feel more locked in than the NS Infinity and help push my riding to the next level. I’m considering the Yes. Hel Yes (probably 149, but maybe 146), the NS Lady FR (147), the Burton Story (147), and the Jones Dream Weaver (148). What do you recommend?

   Also, what binding would you pair with your board recommendation? And, would you upgrade the boots (they’re a few years old)?

   Thanks so much for your help!

   Best,
   Nikki

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   • Nate says

     March 7, 2023 at 6:29 pm

     Hi Nikki

     Thanks for your message.

     Yeah, the Infinity is a softer more playful board. Fun but when you’re looking to bomb and carve, not ideal. Every board you suggested would be a step up in terms of speed/carving, so whichever you go with on the list would certainly work for you, IMO.

     But I’d be weighing up between the Hel Yes and the Story Board. The Story Board would give you a little better in terms of speed and powder, with the Hel Yes being better in icy conditions. Those are the things I’d be weighing up mostly between them. Given you’re not doing anything freestyle, I’d probably be leaning Story Board.

     The Lady FR would work well too, IMO – only reason I’d be leaning towards the others is that my instinct tells me you’re looking for something closer to that trad camber feeling, but with a little more forgiveness and a little more powder. The Lady FR is camber dominant – and def will feel more camber-like than the Infinity – and I don’t think it would be a wrong choice at all – like I said, I think anything from your list would work – but the reason I’m leaning Story Board or Hel Yes ahead of it, is that you’d still be getting a bit of that “rocker between the feet” feel from it, even if it’s far more subtle versus how it feels on the infinity.

     The Dream Weaver would work too, but I just feel like the Story Board and Hel Yes would be better choices. I’d almost step it up, based on what you’re describing, to the Flagship or Hovercraft, if you were going to go Jones.

     Hope this helps with your decision

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     • Nikki says

       March 8, 2023 at 7:52 am

       Thanks, Nate!! This is super helpful!

       Two more questions, if I can impose. First, the Story board in 147 is proving hard to find right now. So, if I did go with the Hel Yes, do you think 149 (as opposed to 146) is the right size?

       Second, are there specific binding pairings that you would recommend for the Story, and separately the Hel Yes? I’m currently riding Union Legacy bindings. I saw that the mini-disc on those bindings will not work with the Hel Yes set/slam back.

       Thanks again for all of your help!

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       • Nate says

         March 8, 2023 at 5:51 pm

         Hi Nikki

         Size-wise for the Hel Yes. I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 148, so both options would work. The 149 would be a better bet for when you’re bombing and for when there’s powder. But the 146 would be better for navigating trees and moguls, so there’s a bit of weigh up there. I think either size would work well, but I would be leaning 149 – but again, it’s a very close call.

         The Legacy would match well with the Hel Yes, but yeah, if you’re planning on using the slam backs, then it won’t work on them, with the mini-disc.

         Some good non-mini-disc alternatives:

         – Burton Lexa (6) or even Lexa X (7)
         – Burton Escapade (5.5)
         – Union Trilogy (6.5)
         – Flux GX (7)

         I would try to go with something around 6/10 flex to match with the Hel Yes and for your style and level of riding. Doesn’t have to be exactly that though. I have put the flex (our feel) of the above bindings in brackets.

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         • Nicole says

           March 9, 2023 at 6:14 pm

           Thanks, Nate!! This is so helpful! You have really helped me wade through all of the options. Thanks, again!

         • Nate says

           March 10, 2023 at 4:32 pm

           You’re very welcome Nikki. Happy riding!

4. Brianna says

   March 4, 2023 at 1:15 am

   Hey Nate,

   I am hoping for a little advice on my next board. I have been riding a 2007/2008 149 Burton Feather since 2009 and I am overdue for an upgrade. Originally I thought I would be going for another Burton board but after reading a lot of your reviews, I think maybe the Yes Hel Yes might be a good board for me. I have been riding for 15+ years but usually only get out around 6 times per season and still consider myself an intermediate rider. I am from the East Coast of Canada and our local hills are all man-made snow, rarely have powder and are often icy. I am looking at a more stiffer, aggressive board because I really want to progress my carving. I like to bomb runs and I don’t feel like my Burton Feather holds an edge well and I experience a lot of chatter. I have no interest in the park but I liked the idea that the Hel Yes was still some what playful and doesn’t always need to be ridden fast. I’ve never tried a hybrid or a camber board before. Only flat top and rockers. Do you think the Hel Yes would be too much of a step up from the Burton Feather?

   I am also wondering what size you’d recommend if I were to go with the Hel Yes. I looked at their size chart and it put me at a 155 length. I am 5’6, about 165lbs and my current Burton Coco boots are a size 10. I am thinking I would prefer a 152 because its a more aggressive board and going from a 149 to a 155 seems like a big change. What are your thoughts?

   Lastly, if you have any binding recommendations that would pair well with this board, it would be greatly appreciated!

   Thanks so much

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   • Nate says

     March 4, 2023 at 1:53 pm

     Hi Brianna

     Thanks for your message.

     I think the Hel Yes would be a really good bet for what you’re describing. Good in icy conditions, certainly stiffer and more aggressive than what you’re used to, but also something that you can ride more casually when needed. I don’t think it would be too big a step up. It will be a noticeable step up and will take a little bit to get used to after riding your Feather for so long, but after an initial adjusting phase I think you should be fine with it.

     I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 152/153, so I think the 152 would be your better bet – and be an easier transition size-wise from where you’re at. Even not taking that transition in sizing into account, I’d still go 152 for you. Width-wise, it will be on the narrower end for your boot size, but I think you should be fine in most scenarios. I mean, if you were going to be laying down eurocarves and had a pretty flat back binding angle (e.g. 0-6 degrees), then you might want to look at something wider, but in most scenarios I think you should be OK.

     The Coco aren’t an ideal match – ideally you’d go a bit stiffer, but if you’re not ready to change boots, they would work in the meantime – but when you are ready to upgrade boots, I would look at something a bit stiffer to better compliment the rest of the setup.

     For bindings, ideally something around a 6/10 flex, but anything between 5/10 to 7/10 should work fine. Some good options below:

     >>Top Women’s All-Mountain Bindings

     >>Top Women’s Freeride Bindings

     Hope this helps with your decision

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     • Brianna says

       March 20, 2023 at 4:54 am

       Hey Nate, thanks so much for the feedback.

       I do plan to upgrade my boots as well as I’ve learned they are way too big for me. I am actually about a size 9, maybe even 8.5. Hoping to find some boots to try on but there aren’t a lot to choose from locally.

       I plan to purchase online and I think I’ve narrowed it down to a Hel Yes in a 152 and the Burton Felix (size 9?) for boots and Burton Escapades (size L) for bindings. Do you think this is a good set up?

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       • Nate says

         March 20, 2023 at 3:53 pm

         Hi Brianna

         I think that setup would work really well together and work well for how you describe your riding. If you get the chance to try on boots, then that would be ideal, then I think you’d probably be a 9 in Burton boots, if your shoe size is typically a 9 or if you’ve tried boots in a 9 and 8.5 before and feel they’ve fit well. But hard to say for sure. If it’s a possibility and you’re not able to try on in person, it would be a good idea to buy the 9 and 8.5 and return the one that doesn’t fit as well. Most online stores will allow you to do this, but double check on the store you’re looking at before buying, to make sure. I could try to narrow it down to the size I think would work best, if you were able to let me know your foot length in centimeters, but still no guarantees, until you’ve tried on.

         When you are trying on, some things to keep in mind when sizing snowboard boots:

         >>How to Size Snowboard Boots

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         • Brianna says

           March 21, 2023 at 7:35 am

           Hey Nate, thanks again for the advice! I had my foot measured and it is 24.5cm. On most size charts I’ve looked at, it says I am a 7.5, but my sneaker size is generally 8.5, sometimes 9. I did try on a pair of Thirty Two boots in a size 8.5 recently and my toes were pressed up against the front of the boot but they were not bent.

         • Nate says

           March 21, 2023 at 3:36 pm

           Hi Brianna

           I find that the mondo of a boot rarely actually works out to fit the size, so I would be surprised if you got into a 7.5, being right on a 24.5cm foot size. 8 could be doable in some cases, but if you’re generally an 8.5 sometimes 9 in sneakers, then I would say you’re more likely to fit an 8.5. If you fit the Thirty Two well in an 8.5, then I think you’d likely fit a Burton 8.5 too (I tend to be the same size for both brands). When you say your toes were pressed up against the end, was there any pressure against them or any discomfort or were they touching but no real pressure?

5. Natalie says

   February 27, 2023 at 10:21 am

   I ended up getting the 2023 Burton Feelgood Camber this season and I LOVE it. It is my first board after snowboarding sporadically over the course of many years, always with rental gear. I had basically mastered the beginner skills (with some bad habits) and never had a lesson and was looking to level up. I didn’t want to buy a beginner board and grow out of it too quickly so went with the Feelgood Camber and the attitude that I was going to have to rise to the occasion. Even my first time on the board, I really didn’t feel like it was too aggressive for my skill-level. I took 6 lessons this year and learned tons and the Feelgood has been amazing. I can attest to it being aggressive but as a result moving from skidded turns to carving was not a very difficult transition. I have it paired with the Escapade EST bindings and Limelight BOA boots and could not be happier with the set up. My instructor jacked the highbacks forward and improved my riding immediately by forcing a more aggressive stance. Highly recommend this board for all-mountain riders particularly on the East Coast.

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   • Nate says

     February 28, 2023 at 10:44 am

     Hi Natalie

     Thanks for your message and insights. Much appreciated

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6. Emily Dommett says

   December 29, 2022 at 2:57 am

   Hi Nate,

   Amazing site, your information is second to none.
   I’m a solid high intermediate rider that’s been using a soft board for 12 years and really need to upgrade to progress. my preferred style is everything other than park! I really like the look of the hel yes and twin sister but I’m concerned they’d be to much (although if I’m honest I’m better than I give myself credit for!)
   I’m 145lbs, 5’3 and uk6. Do you have any advice as I’m going round in circles!!

   Emily

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   • Nate says

     December 30, 2022 at 2:27 am

     Hi Emily

     Thanks for your message.

     If you’re a solid to high intermediate rider, then I don’t think you’ll have any issues with riding the Hel Yes or Twin Sister. After a bit of an adjustment period, getting used to them after riding a softer board for so long, I think you’ll really appreciate the extra performance.

     Size-wise, I’d be weighing up between the 146 and 149 for both boards. Even though 149 is probably the best size for your height/weight specs, I would be leaning 146, particularly for the Twin Sister (as it’s a little wider) because the boards will be on the wide side for your foot size. They’re not super wide for your feet or anything, but on the wider side, so sizing down a little to compensate for that is a good idea, IMO. It may partly depend on what you’re used to riding as well. If you’re used to riding like a 143, then 146 makes even more sense. If you’re used to riding like a 152, then there’d be a stronger argument to go 149.

     Hope this helps with your decision

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     • Emily Dommett says

       January 19, 2023 at 12:34 am

       Hay, thanks for the reply, I went for the HelYes in 149 (my old board was 147) and it’s patiently waiting in Austria for me to arrive in 3 weeks!

       I can’t wait to try it out!
       Thanks again

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       • Nate says

         January 19, 2023 at 6:29 pm

         Hi Emily

         Thanks for the update. If you think of it at the time, I would love to hear how you get on, once you get the board and get a chance to get it out on snow.

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7. Britt says

   December 5, 2022 at 10:41 pm

   Hey Nate!

   Looking for your opinion. I’ve been riding for years and looking to upgrade my 2012 Roxy Eminence C2BTX to something more mellow as I won’t be hitting the parks as much.

   I live in Ontario, so icy conditions are a standard. I’m 5″5′ 118lbs size 7.5 (womens) boot. Hoping to grab your opinion on a board and size.

   I was looking at Jones Dream Catcher, NS Lady FR, Yes Hel Yes, but completely open to new suggestions.

   Not necessarily needing anything too aggressive, but nothing that will take my riding down a level. I like the twin, and could do directional.

   Also wondering if switching to a camber hybrid is worth doing at this point, in that it’s an easier ride? or stick with c-r-c?

   Your thoughts would be awesome!

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   • Nate says

     December 6, 2022 at 3:16 pm

     Hi Britt

     Thanks for your message.

     Switching from your current hybrid rocker (c-r-c) to a hybrid camber (r-c-r) would take a little getting used to but it’s shouldn’t be so hard to get used to that it stops you from looking at Hybrid Camber boards. The Dream Catcher and Hel Yes are both Hybrid camber with the Lady FR more of a hybrid rocker (though it’s quite a unique camber profile – what Never SUmmer call triple camber, so it’s kind of neither). However, the Lady FR is quite stiff and aggressive in comparison, so might not be what you’re after based on what you’re describing.

     The Hel Yes and Dream Catcher certainly both options. The Hel Yes, IMO is a little better in icy conditions, so that might lean you that way. It’s not true twin but directional twin. The Dream Catcher (now called the Dream Weaver) is more directional, but it’s still not super directional – there’s no taper or anything.

     Size-wise, I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 144/145 and with your boot size, you should be good on anything in that width range and wouldn’t need to size down because of it or anything. The Hel Yes’ smallest size is 146, so you would have to size up a touch for that, but still doable. The Dream Weaver I’d be looking at 145.

     You could also look at the Jones Twin Sister – I’d look at the 143.

     Hope this helps

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8. Flavia says

   December 5, 2022 at 10:29 pm

   Hi Nate!
   I spent a few days reading your site, your advice is solid and it helped me narrow down some options for me. I did want to get your take though before I pull the plug here.

   A bit of context:
   Been riding for 10-15 yrs, I’m a solid Interm 6 rider, and my style is a back and forth between freeride and aggressive all-mountain, depending on the mood and energy. I might do a mellow freeride if the powder is right and I feel pretty. I don’t plan on changing my style anytime soon. Carving, stability, turns, a nimble and easy to turn board, but also something that allows me to surf – all that sounds like *chefs kiss* for me.

   I bought my current setup while I was living in a country where I couldn’t buy what was right for me, but what they had available. And considering my sizes, that was always limited and more often than not I had to settle for good enough:

   I’m 5’2, 120lbs and I wear 5.5 in street shoes.

   My current setup is a Burton Nugget 138 with Burton Emerald boots size 6 that are a little too large. The boots are killing me, my feet are needles and pins after a couple runs and the last straw was last weekend I hit the slopes and… I dislocated a toe. The bindings are too soft when I try to ride a bit more aggressive and the board is fun and playful but not helping me so much on powder.

   Anyway, last weekend made me realize I should really put a stop on this and get a new setup. So I am currently looking into getting an entire setup: boats+bindings+boots and wanted to get your thoughts on my options.

   Boards: I narrowed a list of boards – each with my concerns:
   – Never Summer Proto Syn 139: I’m worried it might be too aggressive for the times when I feel “mellow freeride.
   – Jones Twin Sister 140: I’m worried it’s too long considering I’ll have to use it with a 5.5 or 5 size boot.
   – Never Summer 142: I’m worried it’s too long considering I’ll have to use it with a 5.5 or 5 size boot.
   – Jones Dream Weaver 139: I’m worried is not going to be nimble enough or fit for powder – however rare it happens, it’s FUN to have a board to enjoy it.

   Boots: for any option, I will order 5 and 5.5 and keep the one that fits me best. I also have a Burton flagship store nearby, so I could try whatever they have there, but not sure about my options with them:
   – Ride Hera (currently out of stock in 5 and 5.5 but will keep looking)
   – Ride Hera Pro (no 5.5, only 5 or 6)
   – Burton Felix BOA

   Bindings:
   – Burton Lexa X
   – Burton Escapade EST

   What would be your recommendation for a setup? Thank you so so much for your help!

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   • Nate says

     December 6, 2022 at 2:45 pm

     Hi Flavia

     Thanks for your message.

     Firstly in terms of sizing. I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 143. However with your foot size, I would size down from that – as it sounds like you’ve been doing.

     For your level and what you’re describing, I don’t think the Proto Synthesis would be too aggressive. But it isn’t great for powder – that’s the one thing that makes me hesitate on that one. If you did I would go 139 over the 142. I think it would be the better size, given your boot size. The 142 wouldn’t be huge or anything – and sizing up would improve it in terms of powder, but I’d be leaning 139.

     The Twin Sister is quite wide for a women’s board – even in the 140 it’s around 250mm at the front insert and 252mm at the back insert (238mm waist). Because you’d be sizing down to the 140, it’s certainly doable, but it is wide for your feet.

     The Dream Weaver is actually what I would consider to be the best in powder of all the options there. And overall it’s more freeride and less freestyle compared to the other 2 as well. And size-wise I think the 139 works well. Still wide for your foot size but not as wide as the Twin Sister (around 247mm front insert and 249mm back insert) and that sizing down with the length should counter that well. This is the option I would be leaning towards for you, based on how you describe your riding. Note that it’s overall still bigger than the 139 Proto Synthesis, when you take into account the extra width.

     In terms of boots, sizing is really important so getting that right will likely fix a lot of the issues you had with your Emeralds. But that said, sometimes certain brands agree or disagree with a certain person’s foot, so it might be the case that Burton and your feet don’t agree. But it could just be sizing it’s hard to say. In terms of flex though those 3 options would work with any of those boards, with the Hera Pro and Felix probably being the best match, but the Hera would still work well – just slightly softer flexing than the other 2 (5/10 flex versus 6/10 for the Hera Pro and Felix). But they’re all in a good flex range, so I would go with whichever fits the best (the Hera and Hera Pro should fit the same as each other).

     For bindings, I would go Escapade, but don’t go EST unless you’re going to go with a Burton board. Burton EST bindings only mount to Burton’s channel system and aren’t compatible with the boards you’re looking at. But the Escapade Re:Flex is compatible and will be a good match to those boards and boots. The Lexa X is doable but just a little on the stiff side, IMO, particularly given your specs. It could work with the board, but I think the Escapade will be a better match for the board and with your specs, so I’d go with that one. Just remember to go with the Re:Flex model and and not the EST model.

     Hope this helps with your decision

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     • Flavia says

       December 6, 2022 at 10:37 pm

       Thank you SO much for the detailed answer, it’s so helpful seeing your thought process, I drove myself crazy going back and forth! I’ll go with the DreamWeaver 139, they have it in stock nearby!

       I was wondering, would you have any other recommendations for bindings+boots? I’m going to start doing the rounds of the stores I have nearby, and I’m curious if there’s anything else you’d recommend besides Ride and Burton that would go nice with the DW.

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       • Nate says

         December 7, 2022 at 4:42 pm

         Hi Flavia

         In terms of boots, I’d also check out our >>Top Women’s All-Mountain Snowboard Boots list for some more good options as possibilities for the boots. Everything there is a 6/10 flex, which is a good bet for the DW. And for bindings also check out our >>top Women’s All-Mountain Bindings list for more options.

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9. Stephanie says

   November 22, 2022 at 4:28 pm

   Hi Nate!

   I’m hoping you can help me out. I’ve been researching a ton on which snowboard I should get next and am really confused at this point.

   I am 5’6″, 185 lbs, size 10 boot (just got vans viaje). I am a “boring” rider as in I just stick to groomers, but hoping I will venture out sometime in the future – I’m not interest in park. I ride goofy & occasionally switch. I ride greens and blues (exploring more blues now living in CO as they’re more intense from the east coast), but would say I’m an advanced beginner/entry intermediate rider that occasionally gets out a handful of times a year.

   I have a 2012 GNU B-nice 145cm board that I got second hand a few years back. It’s the only board that I know and learned on. I’m lost on what to get next, but would like to take it to the next level. I like my board, but recently learned it’s too small for me. I’ve been looking at several boards to upgrade to & don’t know if they’re too aggressive for me: Jones Dream Weaver, Jones Twin Sister, Capita Birds of a Feather, Capita Paradise. I know these are Hybrid cambers compared to my hybrid rocker, so will be a different feel.

   I’m open to any other recommendations as well as help with choosing a size that suits me – these were just the few brands/boards that I kept coming across and highly talked about. I appreciate any advise that you can provide!

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   • Nate says

     November 23, 2022 at 3:36 pm

     Hi Stephanie

     Thanks for your message.

     I think all but the Birds of a Feather would be OK. BOAF a little too aggressive, IMO, for what you’re describing. The Dream Weaver is borderline too, but I think you’d be fine with it. They’ll all be a step up from the B-Nice for sure, but it sounds like you’re ready for a step up from that.

     Size-wise, I would have you at around 154 as your “standard all-mountain” size, but given your level and the size you’ve been used to, I would size it down a little from there. Something in the 149-152 range would be a good bet. With 10s you’ll need to be careful about width as well, making sure they’re not too narrow.

     I think the Dream Weaver would be wide enough in the 151, so that’s definitely an option.

     The Twin Sister in either the 149 or 152 would be wide enough too, so those are both options.

     The Paradise will be too narrow, IMO, so unfortunately would cross that one off the list.

     Some other options include:

     – Rossignol Airis 152
     – YES Hello 152

     Hope this helps with your decision

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     • Candi says

       November 26, 2022 at 10:08 pm

       Hi Nate, I’ve been doing a lot of research and I can’t seem to find what I need . Not sure if it exists but I’m hoping you can help.

       I am looking for something similar to the signal
       Yup. I love that board so much but I would like to find something really close to it but a little bit more fun. The profile I’m looking for would be fast without any efforts, stable on high speed , quick response with turns , good for jibs and have decent pop.

       I’ve been looking into the yes hel yes but it seems to be on a stiffer side. However, I can’t seem to find the stiffness rating for the yup since there’s not many reviews on that board. All I know it’s medium
       and not number so I can’t really compare it.

       I love the yup in pow but I also ride it with just a few inches. It’s usually my go to board unless it’s just a groomers day.

       Would love some recommendations for something that’s a hair more flexible and a bit more fun .

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       • Nate says

         November 28, 2022 at 1:24 pm

         Hi Candi

         Thanks for your message.

         We haven’t tested any Signal boards, so can’t compare to it. It seems like it’s a heavily tapered setback freeride board by the specs I found here. So nothing here is going to be that similar. If it’s medium flex, then it shouldn’t be more than 6/10 flex, but it’s hard to say for sure as each brand rates a little differently. But assuming it’s no more than 6/10 flex, then the Hel Yes will likely be either the same or slightly stiffer in terms of flex. If you’re looking to go a little softer, then something like the Hello is a better bet. But it’s really hard to say. It could be the case that Signal rate their boards differently and that we would feel the Yup at a more 7/10 flex and then maybe the Hel Yes or Twin Sister or something could be suitable. Really hard to say having not tested it.

         Given that you still want stability at speed, you won’t want to go too soft but also given that you want it to be good for jibs, you probably don’t want to go too stiff – and you’ve already mentioned you want to go a little softer. Given you want a combo of quite playful but also stable at speed, I would say the likes of the Hel yes or Twin Sister are very good at balancing those things, but I don’t know whether you would find them any softer/more playful than the Yup. If you wanted to go a little more freestyle oriented you could look at something like the GNU Ladies Choice. Going to be even more different in feel in terms of shape, being a true twin (assymetrical) versus the very directional Yup, but if you were OK with that it could be an option.

         Hope this somewhat helps but quite hard to say given you’re looking for a board/brand that’s close to a board we don’t have any experience with.

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10. Shoni says

    November 14, 2022 at 9:07 am

    Hey Nate,
    Sorry to add to the pile of comments you get asking for help with very specific criteria.. but I’ve read so many articles at this point that I’m just confusing myself.

    I’ve been riding on a Rossignol Frenemy 144 for 3 seasons (I had been riding for many years prior to that but always on rentals). I really like my board, but I find myself wanting something a little more aggressive at times. I would say I’m at about a level 6 based on your categories. I only ride on-piste and most of that on trails, groomed or not. I love speed and carving, have little interest in trees and no interest in park. I’m primarily an east coast rider, so edge hold on ice/hard snow is important to me (one of the main reasons I went for the Frenemy), but I try to take trips for better powder 1-2 times a season.
    I’m not sure if it’s my board or my skill level that is holding me back from going harder. If I’d benefit from a “step up” in boards, I’ve been eyeing the Jones Twin Sister as an option and would appreciate your thoughts on that or other options I should consider. If you think it’s my skill level then I’d appreciate being told that too – then it’s save my money for a bigger step up later and back to working on the technique once this season starts, ha.

    Thanks for taking the time to respond to everyone’s comments. Your site was hugely helpful in my hunt a few seasons back.

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    • Nate says

      November 15, 2022 at 6:00 pm

      Hi Shoni

      Thanks for your message.

      I think a more aggressive board would help you to take that next step, but certainly continuing to work on your technique is also important. Hard to say whether you’ve pushed the Frenemy to its limits yet or not, but it does have it’s limits in terms of speed and carving, so if you haven’t reached it yet, you likely will at some point. Given what you’re describing, I thin the Twin Sister or Hel Yes would be really good steps up, without going too aggressive. If you felt you were ready to go a little more then you could certainly look at the Arbor Swoon Camber or even Jones Airheart 2.0 or Burton Feelgood.

      If you’re not really riding switch, you could look at a freeride board – see this list

      But yeah, if you’re looking at taking a step but don’t want to go too aggressive, then the Twin Sister and Hel Yes would be good bets.

      Hope this helps

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      • Shoni says

        November 16, 2022 at 8:52 am

        Hi Nate – Thanks for the response and the good food for thought. I had been considering the Hel Yes as well given how many sites, including yours, I’ve seen rate it so highly.

        I am admittedly a little concerned about going full camber. I demoed the Feelgood once years ago and it kicked my butt. Granted that was before I even bought the Frenemy, and so all I had been used to prior to that was rental boards that were (I think) either flat-to-rocker or full rocker, but as a result I’m hesitant about whether I’m ready for full camber. At what point in a rider’s progression do you think going full camber is appropriate? I suppose what I have been debating is whether full camber would be a steep learning curve at first but then really help me progress to where I want to be once I get over the change, or if it would be too big of a change for me at this point and would actually hinder my progression. I know this might be a difficult question to really answer but I’d appreciate any thoughts you have.

        And a hopefully more simple question: Could I get your opinion on sizes for the Twin Sister and the Hel Yes? I’m 115lbs, 5′-3″ and wear a size 7 USW boot. Based on what I understand about rec. length based on weight and waist width, I’ve been looking at 143 for the Twin Sister – is that what you would recommend? And for the Hel Yes, I’ve thought that I might be sized out since it starts at 146 and that would be more board than I’ve ever ridden on, but I’d love to know if I’m wrong there.

        Thanks again Nate.

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        • Nate says

          November 16, 2022 at 10:20 am

          Hi Shoni

          Yeah it’s hard to say for sure if you would be OK with full camber now or not. And it’s not necessarily a case of eventually going to full camber – it’s something that some never end up liking or wanting. I think you would get used to it after a steeper learning curve, but there is a chance it would slow your progression and can potentially knock your confidence a little if it ends up being more challenging. Again, it’s hard to say, because you could take to it really well and really like it, but it is the riskier prospect for sure. And given you’re previous experience, all be it that you now have more experience, it also adds to the risk in it.

          Size-wise for the Twin Sister I’d be looking at the 143. And yeah, unfortunately, the Hel Yes (a board I keep hoping gets a smaller size every year, but never does!) in the 146 would be a little too big, IMO.

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          • Shoni says

            November 16, 2022 at 10:47 am

            Hi Nate – Thanks so much, that’s super helpful.

            If I could ask one more question – what are the main differences between the Twin Sister and the Dream Weaver/Dream Catcher in how the two ride? I know that there’s a slight difference in flex, and the Dream Weaver is (slightly?) directional, but are those differences really perceptible? I’m sure the answer must be yes given that otherwise why would Jones make two different boards.. but I’ve read so many posts comparing the two that I’ve thoroughly confused myself at this point. The Dream Catcher was one board that was recommended to me a few years ago when I was hunting around and landed on the Frenemy, so I’ve been curious about it, but wondering if I’d just be getting a very similar board to what I already have if I went that route (which is somewhat cheaper than the Twin Sister, hence my consideration).

          • Nate says

            November 17, 2022 at 1:26 pm

            Hi Shoni

            Apart from the flex difference (which is pretty neglible I would say – they’re a very similar flex) and the Dream Weaver being more directional (which is a more noticeable difference) the Twin Sister is a poppier/snappier that’s a bit lighter and has more spring out of turns versus the Dream Weaver – a little livelier, if that makes sense. The Dream Weaver is a smoother turning board versus a more snappy turning feel from the Twin Sister.

            The Dream Weaver is a little better in powder, because of that more directional shape. But the Twin Sister is better for switch, jumps, butters etc and everything is fairly similar, apart from the feel of turns as mentioned above.

            So the Dream Weaver isn’t necessarily wrong, if you like the sound of a smooth turner. For it I would size up to the 145 though – it’s the kind of board you typically want to size up for. The 142 would work, but I’d be leaning 145 in that particular board.

11. Veronica Ecklund says

    October 24, 2022 at 12:10 pm

    Hi Nate,
    I’m looking for a board to progress on steeps, trees, and off piste terrain that can still ride well on groomers when necessary. I’d like a board than can hold an edge well on icy terrain but still handle pow. I’m torn with choosing from the Yes Hell Yes or Never Summer Lady FR. I’m thinking the narrower profile of the Lady FR might have turning advantages but a little concerned that it might be too stiff for me. I also saw a few reviews mention that the hell yes laminate peeled easy, so thinking never summer might have higher quality laminate. Looking for my go to board to ride a while as I don’t upgrade equipment often. I’m 5′ 3 1/2″ and weigh 130. What would you suggest? Thank you! Veronica

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    • Nate says

      October 25, 2022 at 10:01 am

      Hi Veronica

      Thanks for your message.

      A few differences between those boards that will hopefully help with your decision:

      – I think you’ll find the Hel Yes to be better in icy conditions, a little more snappy but a little less damp than the Lady FR
      – Lady FR will likely feel a good bit stiffer than Hel Yes – like 8/10 flex vs 6/10 flex on the Hel Yes, so will be quite a noticeable difference there.
      – Lady FR should feel more stable at speed – and a faster board overall
      – Hel Yes quicker edge-to-edge at slower speeds and generally better in trees
      – Lady FR a little better for powder
      – Hel Yes a more “do-it-all” option with it’s more mid-flex and better for the likes of butters, jumps, riding switch etc. Doesn’t sound like you do much of that though?
      – Hel Yes a more easy going ride, but it’s still not what I would call playful – it’s still something you can ride quite aggressively, but it’s more forgiving than something like the Lady FR for when you want to ride slower or get lazy/casual

      With regards to the delaminating thing. I have heard this from a few people as well. I haven’t had the issue with my own YES board, which I’ve owned for a few seasons now, so I don’t think it’s always, but I have heard of issues with this from others. If it was a fairly wide-spread issue and they got a lot of complaints and warranty returns, then I imagine they will have done something about it by now. But that is just an assumption.

      Hope this helps with your decision

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12. Kate says

    September 29, 2022 at 4:05 pm

    Hi Nate!

    I’m looking for a new board (and bindings) this year. Been riding 18 years, 5’6, 160lbs. Love to ride blue/black groomers and have been getting into the trees and ungroomed trails a bit more these past couple of years. I currently ride a 147 but am thinking it’s a bit too short for me now. Any thoughts? I was looking at the burton feel good and the jones twin sister but am looking for guidance. For someone who likes to have fun out there carving, riding switch, butters, etc! Thank you!

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    • Nate says

      September 30, 2022 at 12:38 pm

      Hi Kate

      Thanks for your message.

      I would be leaning Twin Sister over the Feelgood, mostly because you mention that you like to butter, which is harder to do on the Feelgood because of its flex. Also, the Twin Sister is a little quicker edge-to-edge at slower speeds, for trees. Yeah, I would say 147 is a little short for you. I would size up a bit. I would put your “standard” all-mountain size at around 152. As an advanced rider, that’s a size you could ride, but I would err a little shorter than that, mostly because you’re so used to a shorter 147. Also, because you do like to ride trees and butter, going a little shorter helps with those things. Longer will give you more stability at speed and float in powder so there’s that tradeoff, but mostly given what you’ve been used to riding I would look at the 149 for the Twin Sister. But if you really wanted to go longer, the 152 isn’t out of range either.

      But if you could also let me know your boot size as well, to confirm that sizing.

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13. Kathy Nguyen says

    September 10, 2022 at 11:37 pm

    Hi Nate,

    I’m in my 40s SB for 2 seasons. I’m 5’0, 120lbs. I’ve been riding Burton Feather 140 (2011), boots STW size 7. I’m a 4-5 level based on your description, able to go down mostly easy and normal blues. I feel like i’m trying so hard to do edge/toe and making turns with the Feather, not sure if it’s my technique or i need a better board 🙂

    I’m from the east coast, but visited West 4 times the last 2 years. I would like a board that’s i don’t have to do so much work, I want to just chill down the mountain,

    1. NS Infinity 142
    2. NS Proto Synthesis 139
    3. Capita Paradise
    4. Jones Twin

    Also, will you recommend a binding to go along with the board?

    Thank you !!!
    Kathy

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    • Nate says

      September 12, 2022 at 10:26 am

      Hi Kathy

      Thanks for your message.

      I think at this point you could certainly step up a little bit. The Proto Synthesis might be a little too big a step and the Jones Twin Sister is borderline as well. I think either the Infinity or the Paradise are your best best. For the Paradise I’d go 141. Slightly leaning towards the Infinity just because it’s a little better in icy conditions, which I hear you get quite a bit out East.

      For bindings, something around that 5/10 flex would be your best bet. Something like the Flux GS, Burton Escapade (or Burton Scribe would work well too, and cheaper vs the Escapade), Salomon Mirage or Union Women’s Ultra would all be good bets, IMO.

      Hope this helps

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      • Kathy Nguyen says

        September 13, 2022 at 6:27 pm

        Ah.. thanks Nate…

        I’m seriously considering NV Infinity, however, it’s a directional board. Can we still ride switch with it?

        Thanks so much for your advice.. You are awesome!

        Kathy

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        • Nate says

          September 14, 2022 at 10:20 am

          Hi Kathy

          The Infinity is directional twin. So the only thing that makes it directional is that the nose is a little longer outside the contact points than the tail is and there is a 1/2″ setback. Whilst it’s not as suitable as a true twin for riding switch, it’s still fine for riding switching. And it’s the kind of board that’s pretty easy to transition into/out of switch as well.

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          • Kathy Nguyen says

            September 15, 2022 at 5:58 pm

            Thank you Nate for taking your time with all our questions! I’m looking forward to a new season … hope you have a blast as well wherever you are snowboarding 🙂

          • Nate says

            September 16, 2022 at 1:37 pm

            You’re very welcome Kathy. Hope you have an awesome season too!

14. chrissy says

    August 1, 2022 at 10:29 am

    Hey Nate!

    First off I apologize if this is a repeat comment- I thought I posted on your Never Summer review but I don’t think it went through because I had poor service but perhaps its just still being moderated. Thanks for being endlessly helpful! You were of great advice last year and I’m hoping to get some further advice this year.

    My question is about updating my gear to reflect my goals, ability, and physical characteristics.

    Ability– I’d say I’m a solid 4 and working on being a solid 5. I did mostly blue trails in Park City Utah last year. Can link turns S shape, control my speed fairly confidently, working on carving, and working on settling into a more relaxed body position on more challenging courses. My goal is to be able to take on any blue trail with speed, some easy blacks, be able to carve consistently, and be able to fly around with total control while also feeling relaxed as opposed to just holding my shit together and being exhausted after the end of 1 run lol. I don’t intend to do any park, deep powder, or tree runs though I do take annual trips to big western mountains that a fair amount of powder (this year I’m going to either do Whistler, Aspen or Breck). I do need something that is good for icy conditions because I live on the East Coast and my weekend trips are to slopes that can get icier and not a ton of fresh tracks.

    Last year I purchased a 142 Lectra, Union Milans and Burton Felix. I rode this set up all season and enjoyed it, progressed on it to my current abilities, but I put on some weight and am now at the top of the weight class. I am 5’3 and 130 and the max weight for the Lectra 142 is 130 (I was 118 when I purchased it). I’m thinking of purchasing another board to account for my skill improvements and my weight gain but I’m having trouble finding a board that isn’t too advanced and also has sizing ranges available for me.

    I’ve narrowed it down to the following and would love your insight on which is best or if I’m not considering something that I should…

    -Jones Twin Sister 143
    -Yes Hello 146 (too long?)
    -Never Summer Infinity (145??? I’m a 6.5 boot and I think the waist size is too small at 234– it says its only okay for up to size 6 but is there any wiggle room here?
    -Never Summer Proto Synthesis (145– NS says this will be okay for up to size 8.5)
    -Feel Good 142– I’ve read in other posts that the FG is pretty aggressive but I’m wondering if I should give it a try if I keep the length on the shorter side (which still fits my weight class also)

    I’m struggling to find any other boards that fit my weight class but are also between 143 and 146. What are your thoughts?

    Reply

    • Nate says

      August 2, 2022 at 11:54 am

      Hi Chrissy

      Thanks for your message.

      I wouldn’t get too worried about the weight recommendations. They are a good guide but wouldn’t put everything into them. That said, from what you’re describing about your riding, going longer than your current board is probably a good idea and certainly sounds like you’re ready to upgrade. However, I would still be a little wary of going to something like the Feelgood or even the Proto Synthesis. The Hello and Infinity are your best bets at your level, IMO. The Twin Sister is doable as well.

      Size-wise, generally speaking I would put you at 146 for your “standard” length, but this assumes a more advanced level. That said, with something like the Hello you can probably get away with the 146. But I wouldn’t go any longer than that. The Infinity in 145 would be a good bet, IMO. With 6.5s I doubt you’ll have any issues with it being too narrow. To consider it up to 6 for boot size is really conservative. And when you look at the 148 it only has a 2mm wider waist and that goes up to 8.5. So again, I wouldn’t put too much stock in that. For 6.5s I would be extremely surprised if it was too narrow for you. For the Twin Sister I think the 143 would be the best bet.

      The Rossignol Airis, in the 143, would also be a good option.

      Hope this helps

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      • Chrissy says

        August 2, 2022 at 12:43 pm

        Thanks! This is very helpful! You really are an internet saint for managing this site. I’ve been reading your various articles and reviews all week.

        I hope you’ll oblige my last question… do you think there are advantages for one’s progression to buying a stiffer or more “intermediate” all mountain board with a hybrid profile vs. sticking with a soft “beginner” all mountain board for a rider like me that’s really just looking to become more confident in the intermediate skills, carve and cruise?

        I’ll look for a longer new board either way, I’m just wondering if if I’m a little too excited to put myself in that intermediate category lol and then going to set myself back in my progression.

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        • Nate says

          August 3, 2022 at 12:02 pm

          Hi Chrissy

          That’s a great question. From what I’m hearing, you’re at a stage that you can step it up a bit. I just wouldn’t step too far at once. Going with something like the Hello or Infinity is going to help you progress but won’t (IMO) be too big a leap. Going to a board like that should help you to naturally progress without setting your self back. Now, if you were to go to a really stiff, full camber board right now, then there’s a good chance it would be too much and you’d set yourself back and probably knock your confidence in the process. But going to one of those boards I think is a really good next step – and could potentially even be a final step – or at least the only step you need to take for a long time to get you to where you want to be and you may not ever need or want to go to a more aggressive board past that. But definitely worth moving up to something like the Hello or Infinity from the likes of the Lectra, when you feel you’re ready. Doesn’t have to be right now, but from what you’re describing, I think you’d be ready for that next step.

          Reply

          • Chrissy says

            August 3, 2022 at 1:59 pm

            Thanks Nate! I will follow up— hopefully with good news and positive progressions! !

          • Nate says

            August 4, 2022 at 10:59 am

            You’re very welcome Chrissy. Looking forward to hear how you get on!

          • Chrissy says

            September 26, 2022 at 10:58 am

            Hey Nate! Back again. I’ve 99% decided on the Twin Sister 143. It seems like my best bet for edge hold in icier conditions. But I’m just noticing how wide the waist is. Should I at all be concerned at the width given my profile (5’3, 130, 6.5 boot)

          • Nate says

            September 27, 2022 at 2:00 pm

            Hi Chrissy

            The Twin Sister is a wider board – and it is wide for 6.5s, IMO. Which is why sizing to 143 makes sense for you. In the case of the Twin Sister, even if you were at an advanced level (in which case, I would consider your best length to be 146) I would still size down to the 143, because of the width. In your case, I think sizing to the 143 is still sizing down enough to counter that extra width. The 140 is a possibility though if you’re really concerned about that width. Or a narrower board, if it’s concerning. Typically when a board is too wide for your feet it becomes a little more effort to maneuver and slows down your edge-to-edge transitions. But shorter boards are easier to maneuver, so you can compensate for a too wide board by going shorter. But if you’d prefer to keep it narrower but a bit longer, then there are other good options, like we discussed.

          • Chrissy says

            October 22, 2022 at 12:36 pm

            Hey Nate! Just wanted to let you know I Got the twin sister 143 and I took it out twice now to this indoor place near me that has a nice slope and park and I love it! I was worried it was going to feel too advanced for me but it really feels perfect. Loose and maneuverable but stable. I was able to keep working on my carves. I’m really happy. Thanks for all your work that you do in helping people make these decisions!

          • Nate says

            October 24, 2022 at 10:20 am

            You’re very welcome Chrissy – and awesome to hear that the Twin Sister is treating you well.

15. Irene says

    May 15, 2022 at 3:55 pm

    Hey Nate!

    I’ve been looking for a new snowboard recently and was wondering what your thoughts are on the Ride Saturday Snowboard? I live in Ontario so most of the time it’s quite icy, and I usually just stick to resorts. I’m considering the 150 but I’m not sure if that’s too long for me. I am 5’3 and 147 pounds. Thanks!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      May 16, 2022 at 11:33 am

      Hi Irene

      Thanks for your message.

      In terms of sizing, I think the 150 would work – but if you could let me know your boot size as well, as I like to take that into account. Also, if you can let me know your rough ability level – as that can play a part in sizing too.

      For icy conditions, I haven’t found Ride boards to be amazing in general. Nothing bad in icy conditions or anything, but if that was a big factor for you, there are better options for icy conditions, IMO.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

16. Bruce says

    April 29, 2022 at 11:23 pm

    Hi, I have been reading your website alot lately learning about all the differences in boards. Still have some questions with sizings.

    I would like to get a new board for my wife. Maybe a clearance or wait until next year’s models. She has snowboarded for 25+ years. She has been riding the same Burton Troop since 2001 though. She feels comfortable on the board, but I think she would excel even more on a new one. We mainly ride in Tahoe. We look for black diamond tree runs the most. If they are ridable we stay in the trees all day, esp with some powder. If we are on groomed trails we will bomb them. She is 5’8 140ish lbs. Small feet though 6 1/2-7. Current snowboard is a 157. Everything I’m reading says she should probably be on a smaller board? But doesn’t seem like she is having an issue turning the board through the trees.

    If I got her a new board should I go smaller, where she may actually be able to maneuver even better and just doesn’t know she can? Or just stick with the longer board she is used to?

    Seems like the hel yes line may be up her alley?

    Thanks for all the info on the site. Lots of little intricacies like surfboards.

    Reply

    • Nate says

      May 2, 2022 at 12:36 pm

      Hi Bruce

      Thanks for your message.

      Yeah, I think going smaller is a good idea. For a rider with her experience and specs, taking into account that she likes to ride trees a lot, I wouldn’t recommend going longer than 150 typically. Because she’s used to riding something that long, I think she could go a little longer than that – but I would still size down, and I think she will notice better maneuverability in the trees. Also given her foot size, going a little narrower would help with maneuverability as well.

      I think the Hel Yes would work well. Typically I would say go 149 – but in this case she might find it feels too short, coming from the 157, so I’d be leaning 152. I wouldn’t go to the 155 though.

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply

      • Bruce says

        May 4, 2022 at 10:45 pm

        Thanks for the response and information. Will look for a 152, might have to wait for next seasons boards. There is a Yes Hello, but I think she would want the more aggressive Hel Yes. Will keep talking with her.

        I’ll be asking a question for myself. But I’ll post it on a different page to keep it uniform if my information lines up with someone else. Thanks again

        Reply

        • Nate says

          May 5, 2022 at 3:48 pm

          You’re very welcome Bruce. I see your other post there. Will go and take a look at it now.

          Reply

17. Georgia says

    March 20, 2022 at 10:41 pm

    Hey Nate,
    Thanks for your website – this informations amazing. I’ve been debating between boards but can’t find a shop to demo everything without spending hundreds so I figured I’d ask here.

    I’m 5’3, 115 lbs and live in Colorado, started snowboarding a few months ago and feel I am now outgrowing my Burton Progression board, 137 cm (bought as a used rented board) with the amount I start to chatter at high speeds. I enjoy groomers the most, and also want a board I can hang with my friends on moguls with (maneuverable).. I never ride the park. I’m late beginner/intermediate – currently on the blues, likely trying some black diamonds next week. I snowboard at least weekly, so hoping to continue a progression without outgrowing a new board in the coming season.

    I was considering the Never Summer Infinity board, if 142 cm isn’t too large, and also was considering the Burton Yeasayer. I did demo the Capita Birds of a Feather camber board today and didn’t like it – too stiff, or at least coming off my little rocker progression board it felt that way. Another thought was the Burton Feelgood Flying V, I’ve ruled out the camber version after looking at your reviews recommending that to more advanced riders. Any help would be appreciated!

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    • Nate says

      March 21, 2022 at 3:30 pm

      Hi Georgia

      Thanks for your message.

      Yeah the BOAF is a more aggressive board. I think you would likely have preferred the Paradise from Capita. Yeah Burton Feelgood even more stiff and aggressive versus the BOAF, so wouldn’t go there.

      The Yeasayer and Feelgood Flying definitely possibilities though. But the Infinity is a good choice. And I think the 142 could work for you. I would put you at around 143 for your “standard all-mountain” length. So 142 is pretty spot on. That does assume a relatively advanced level, and as a beginner sizing down is a good idea, but given that you’re a higher end beginner and the Infinity is still an easy going board (but still going to certianly give you more performance than the Burton Progression), I don’t think you’ll find the 142 too big. But if you could let me know your boot size (also important for sizing) to confirm.

      If you were to go Yeasayer or Feelgood Flying V, I would be looking at:

      Yeasayer: 140
      Feelgood Flying V: 142 – it’s the shortest in that board – depending on your boot size, the Infinity might be the better size with the Feelgood Flying V being a bit wider.

      Hope this helps

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      • Georgia says

        March 21, 2022 at 11:03 pm

        Hey Nate,

        Awesome, thanks for the quick reply and advice! I use K2 boots, size 7.5 if that helps!

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        • Nate says

          March 22, 2022 at 2:39 pm

          Hi Georgia

          Thanks for the extra info.

          You should be good on the width of any of those, though I would be leaning 142 Infinity or the 140 Yeasayer, because the combination of width and length and the fact that it’s stiffer than the others, makes the Feelgood Flying V potentially a little advanced in that size. In a smaller size, I think it could work for you, but in this case I would be erring 142 Infinity or 140 Yeasayer.

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          • Georgia says

            March 31, 2022 at 10:00 am

            Hey Nate,

            To follow up, I ended up getting the Never Summer Infinity (142cm) and it’s perfect! Definitely a different board than my Burton Progression, but in all the right ways. It can hold up speed, yet I can still get my jumps off and maneuver well. Appreciate your help, great advice!

          • Nate says

            March 31, 2022 at 5:17 pm

            Hi Georgia

            Thanks for the update. And awesome to hear that the Infinity is treating you well!

18. Lizzie Wakeham says

    February 16, 2022 at 2:57 pm

    Hi Nate,

    Thank you for all your advice on this website – it is so much help!
    Wonder if I, like so many others, can pick your brain for recommendations on buying a board?

    I’ve just invested in a Burton step on set – Felix step on boots, UK size 8 (US size 10) after running my old salmon boots into the ground, and am looking for a board.

    I’m 170cm, 68kg, probably intermediate level 5.
    I spend most of my time on piste, but do like to have fun (mostly falling over) with a little off piste and doing a few small jumps in the park towards the end of the week.
    I mainly want to progress my carving and confidence with speed. But I would love to be able to do a little more off piste and in the park.

    I love the look of the Jones Twin sister, or Dream Catcher. Also really like the Gnu Ladies choice.
    I’ve not owned a board before so not 100% on sizing but I feel hired boards have been in the 145-149 range. Though online calculations seem to come out at 151.

    What would you recommend?

    Thank you in advance for your advice!

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    • Nate says

      February 17, 2022 at 2:55 pm

      Hi Lizzie

      Thanks for your message.

      I think one of those would work well for what you’re describing. I would be leaning Twin Sister or Dream Catcher, since you do want to include park. You can ride the Dream Catcher in the park, but not as good as the other 2 there. The Dream Catcher is better for powder, so if you think you will get a fair bit of powder when off piste, then that’s a consideration, but the Twin Sister and Ladies Choice aren’t bad in powder, and unless the powder is quite deep, you want notice the difference that much.

      Size-wise, I would put you on around a 152 as your “standard all-mountain” size, but this assumes an advanced level, so you could certainly come down a bit from that. Something in that 148-151 range, I think would work well. So for the Twin Sister, I would be leaning 149 and for the Ladies Choice, the 148.5. If you went Dream Catcher, then I’d go 151 – it’s a board you can ride a little longer, so it’s more similar to most boards 148/149.

      In terms of width, the Ladies Choice might be borderline too narrow. If you were going to ride with +15/-15 binding angles, then I think it will be fine and you might be fine anyway but pushing it a little. The Twin Sister is wider than it looks just based on the waist width, so I don’t think you’d have any issues width wise. Same with the Dream Catcher, it should be wide enough in the 151.

      Hope this helps

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      • Lizzie says

        February 23, 2022 at 3:35 am

        Thank you so much Nate that’s really helpful!
        I had wondered about width for the Ladies Choice (as I have big feet!), so I think I’ll go for one of the other two.
        I’ve found Twin Sister in 149 and Dream Catcher in 151 – they are similar in price. You’ve said Dream catcher is better in powder, but otherwise would you recommend one over the other?
        Thanks again!

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        • Nate says

          February 24, 2022 at 12:57 pm

          Hi Lizzie

          Overall I would recommend the Twin Sister over the Dream Catcher, but if you were looking for something more directional and better in powder, then the Dream Catcher is that, but otherwise, I’d be more inclined to go Twin Sister.

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19. Avery says

    February 12, 2022 at 5:20 pm

    Hi Nate,

    Great list! I appreciate the insight.

    I am an intermediate to advanced rider looking for a new board. I’m an east coast rider, so icy terrain and tight glades are often the conditions. I like to charge groomers and get nice carves as well as mess around in the off-piste, so I am looking for something stable at high speeds but also playful . I am considering the Yes Hel Yes! in 149 or the Solomon Rumble Fish 148. In case this extra bit of info helps, I used to ride a Rossignol Diva 147. I found it fun, but not great at high speed or carves.

    Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer!

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    • Nate says

      February 14, 2022 at 1:38 pm

      Hi Avery

      Thanks for your message.

      I think both of those boards would work well for what you’re describing. I would say the Hel Yes a little better in terms of icy conditions, but the Rumble Fish still good there.

      Size-wise, it’s hard to say without your specs, but if your biggest complaint about the 147 in the Diva was that it wasn’t good at speed or carves, then I don’t think the 149 Hel Yes or 148 Rumble Fish would be too long. Would be happy to make a more accurate sizing suggestion, but would just need your height, weight and boot size.

      Hope this helps

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      • Avery says

        February 18, 2022 at 3:28 pm

        Hi Nate,

        I am leaning a bit more towards the Hel Yes at the moment. I am 5’7” and 135lbs with a size 8 boots. My bindings are ride vxn in medium, they are set up with lean to be more aggressive when descending . I tend to ride with a bit more of a sumo stance (15 in the back and 20 in the front). I am looking at the 149 or the 152 for the Yes Hel Yes.

        A bit of a side note, do you know anything about the Bataleon Storm? I like the idea of the camber profile, but I’ve never ridden a board with 3BT tech.

        Thanks, I appreciate the help!

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        • Nate says

          February 19, 2022 at 2:27 pm

          Hi Avery

          I would be leaning 149, I think it’s spot on for your specs.

          I have only ridden one Bataleon board to date – which was the Bataleon Whatever. I really enjoyed it but the 3BT was very noticeable – and even though it was a full camber profile it didn’t feel like it at all. The 3BT definitely makes a difference and makes it a looser feel than what you’d expect from full camber.

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          • Glenn says

            December 25, 2022 at 5:18 pm

            Jumping in here since I’m basically looking for the same thing. I’m a short guy at 130ish lbs boot size is 6.5/7 can’t remember but the exact same style of riding. Was considering the hel yes, Jones flagship and gnu Barrett. Trying to understand differences and potential best sizing. I’m coming from a boys 147 nitro demand gullwing profile if that helps, not opposed to camber designs but still want some play so I can be slow with my daughter who’s learning.

          • Nate says

            December 26, 2022 at 4:18 am

            Hi Glenn

            Thanks for your message.

            I think the Hel Yes would give you the best balance of being playful but still good when it comes to wanting to ride it faster and a little more aggressively. The other 2 would work but harder to ride slow, particularly the Flagship. My instinct is Hel Yes in this case.

            Size-wise, you could stretch it to 152, but I think the 149 would be your best bet.

            Hope this helps with your decision

20. Deborah says

    February 8, 2022 at 2:03 am

    Hi Nate,

    I’m a high level intermediate rider who mostly likes to charge hard. I prefer a stiffer board for aggressive turns, with good pop for hitting all the little burns in my path. I don’t ride park anymore (been riding for 25 years) mostly looking for vertical feet and speed, which means I like stability and no chatter under me. Groomers, off piste, trees, the occasional boarder cross course, and powder when we have it.

    I was in Tahoe this weekend and demoed 3 boards.

    1. Capita Birds of a Feather 148 which felt too soft for me but was certainly playful and very easy to maneuver. It did not do well with high speeds.

    2. Burton Yeahsayer 148 -felt too wide for my taste and not super responsive- plus was “grabby” and slow on traverses.

    3. Burton Feelgood Camber 149 – LOVED this, being lean and nimble, and super stable at high speeds. I tried to buy it but was then told it was out of stock in my size and I can’t find the 149 online anywhere so back to the drawing board.

    I’m curious what you would recommend. I’m 5’6 and 130 lbs. and wear a size 8 boot.

    I’ve been looking into the Rossignol Diva which sounds up my alley but doesn’t seem to get much love or have many reviews, wondering why? What else might be out there for me.

    Also, I rode the Union Trilogy bindings this weekend. They were too soft for my taste. My old setup had the Knidecker carbon fiber high backs. I’ve been reading about the Now Condas, do you think they’re worth the money? If not, what other bindings do you recommend? I’m riding this seasons Ride Hera boots.

    Thanks in advance for your recommendations.

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    • Nate says

      February 8, 2022 at 1:16 pm

      Hi Deborah

      Thanks for your message.

      As I was reading through your comment, I kept thinking Burton Feelgood – and then it turns out you did try it and like it. Shame you can’t find it in your size.

      The Arbor Swoon Camber would be an option. It’s not quite as stiff and aggressive as the Burton Feelgood, but it’s on the more aggressive side.

      I think the Diva could work. It’s on the stiffer side. But it’s not full camber – there’s some rocker tip and tail. Also it’s a true twin board – so what I would consider more all-mountain-freestyle – not that that’s necessarily a bad thing and could certainly still work for you. It seems to be hard to find Rossignol boards to test these days unfortunately – they don’t seem to give their snowboard department as much love as their ski department, so generally means less reviews on them.

      Another option that I think would be really worth looking at is the Jones Airheart. Even better if you could wait for the Airheart 2.0 – which is going to go to full camber – but it’s not out yet – it’s a 2023 model. But I think you’d really like that. Of course if you could wait until then you could also look at the 23 Feelgood. I rode the Aviator 2.0 (men’s equivalent) recently and I think it’s a board that would suit what you’re describing really well. But even the Airheart 2022 (non 2.0) would be worth looking into.

      Another one is the Burton Talent Scout. It’s a stiffer, full camber board. It’s true twin – and more on the all-mountain-freestyle spectrum as well, but it’s something to consider.

      For bindings, I’m not sure you’d find the Conda any stiffer than the Trilogy. I would look at the Flux GX or Burton Lexa X. There will be others from brands that I don’t currently test, but those are the stiffer/better stiff women’s bindings I would recommend.

      Hope this helps with your search/decision

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21. Ana says

    January 31, 2022 at 1:22 pm

    Hi Nate,
    Love the community you have here, and hoping to get some recommendations on my first board 🙂

    I’m an intermediate rider that has snowboarded for 5 seasons (~1 week per season). One of the seasons I’ve done a week with lessons every day.
    I don’t love speed (always feel too unstable, although I’m working on it) and prefer to play around in blues. I’ve been carving more this season, like to go over the occasional jump on the side, try switching every now and then. I don’t see myself going too big into park but like to dream of it.
    Looking for an all-mountain that fits resort, powder, as well as icier mountains. In a season I’m lucky enough to get a bit of everything.

    I’m 5’2”, 110lbs and size 7 women.
    I was looking into the CAPiTA Birds of a Feather (although can only find size 144 and I’m not sure that’s the right for me) and Rossignol Airis Snowboard (able to find size 143).
    Unfortunately can’t find the Yes. Hello my size either.

    Any thoughts on the above models and respective sizes, or any other options you recommend?

    Thanks heaps!
    Ana

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    • Nate says

      February 1, 2022 at 12:56 pm

      Hi Ana

      Thanks for your message.

      I think the Airis in 143 is doable – and the board certainly fits everything you’re describing, IMO, but ideally something around 139-141 length-wise would be best for your specs, IMO. But Airis 143 isn’t far off, so it’s an option. But you could also check out:

      – Jones Twin Sister 140
      – Salomon Wonder 140

      Hope this helps

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      • Ana says

        February 4, 2022 at 4:26 am

        Thank you very much for your message, Nate!

        Yeah… I was having a hard time finding something in the 139-141 and that’s why I was going a bit over, but these options are great.

        Appreciate your help,
        Ana

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        • Nate says

          February 4, 2022 at 4:46 pm

          You’re very welcome Ana. If you think of it at the time, let me know what you go with. Happy riding!

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          • Konka says

            November 13, 2022 at 10:11 pm

            Hi Nate,

            Your comment is really helpful! I have a similar scenario here. I am 5’2 and weight at 105/106 lbs. shoe size is 5.5 or 6.

            I have been snowboarding for a year and my current board is GNU gloss 140 that has 233 mm waist width. I really like this board because its nimble, easy to turn but its kinda unstable when I go fast downhill or in icy condition. I am located at Seattle and sometimes it does get pretty powdery and this board does not perform well on deep snow since its pretty narrow.

            I think I am beginner to intermediate level. I enjoy carving a lot and mostly on blue runs. I occasionally try out black runs too. So I am looking for maybe getting a new board that is more stable, better at carving and easier on powdery condition.

            currently looking at a few of these options based on your comments
            Jones Twin Sister 143 (a little worried about the width)
            YES Hello 146 (same concern about the width)
            CAPITA THE EQUALIZER 146

            Do you have any advice? What would you think?

          • Nate says

            November 14, 2022 at 3:23 pm

            Hi Konka

            Thanks for your message.

            I know you’re looking for more stability and float in powder, so I get wanting to go longer, but I wouldn’t go much more than 141/142 for your specs. With something like the Hello, unfortunately I don’t think there’s a suitable size option with the 146 being the smallest size. The Twin Sister works but I would size to the 140. It’s not any longer than your Gloss, but even in the same length, it will be noticeably more stable. And it’s noticeably wider too – so you are going to get more surface area. That and it’s more suited to powder anyway.

            The Equalizer is narrower, but I still wouldn’t go to the 146 length. The 142 would be more suitable. It’s not going to be any wider than you’re existing board, but with that extra length you do get a little more surface area – and it’s naturally more suited to powder anyway. And again, it would be considerably more stable in exactly the same size as your gloss, so I don’t think you need to go as long as 146 (IMO you the trade off for loss of maneuverability would likely not be worth it).

            Hope this helps

22. Emily says

    January 25, 2022 at 2:17 pm

    Hi, Nate!

    This website has been so helpful in deciding what to buy. Thank you!

    I am a level 5 rider, 5’9″, 155-160 lbs, size 8-8.5 feet (8.5 in most shoes but recently rented a Burton board with size 8 boots and it was very comfortable). I have boarded for 20 years on the same K2 board (153) but recently had a baby and don’t fit into those boots now so it’s time for an upgrade! I live in Colorado and spend most of my time on groomers. I have experimented with park features in the past and want to be able to try again but that’s not where I spend most of my time. I board primarily with skiers and am eyeing the Burton step on bindings so that I’m not holding my family back. I am not sure which board to go with, though. The Yes. Hello 152, Rossignol Airis 152, CAPiTA Paradise 149, and Jones Dream Catcher 151 have all caught my eye. The Twin Sister (149 or 152) has also piqued my interest but I’m worried that it is a bit too aggressive for me. Despite having boarded for 20 years, I’m still fairly timid. I’m hoping that I feel more confident with a new board but don’t want to take on anything too aggressive. I really appreciate any guidance you are able to give!

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    • Nate says

      January 27, 2022 at 9:00 am

      Hi Emily

      Thanks for your message.

      For what you’re describing, I would be leaning YES Hello 152 or Rossignol Airis 152. The Paradise would be fine too, and I think the 149 is doable for you, but I think 152 is a more optimal size and you have that option in the Hello and Airis.

      The Dream Catcher and Twin Sister are also doable, but they are a bit of a step up (Twin Sister is more mellow than it used to be – and is as mellow or maybe even more so than the Dream Catcher). You could size the Twin Sister to 149, which would help to make it more easy going. But even the 152 is doable. I wouldn’t call it super aggressive or anything, so I don’t think it (or the Dream Catcher) would be a wrong choice, but based on how you describe your riding, I would be leaning Hello or Airis.

      Hope this helps

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23. Mike says

    January 23, 2022 at 2:24 pm

    Hi Nate,

    I almost feel bad asking you to repeat your comments to each slightly different set of inputs. However having spent the entire weekend analysing the options, I decide it’s best to ask your forgiveness and advise.
    I’m springing for a new board for my daughter post lock down.
    She’s had her current board (Roxy Ollie pop 141) since 12 yo, she’s 17 in April. We missed 2021 due to lock down.
    We snowboard mainly in Europe on groomed pistes that are icey in the morning and slightly slushy in the afternoon.
    We tend to get 2 weeks on the slopes – Feb and April.
    Feb = lots of snow and powder days
    April = groomers and some off piste if we are lucky
    Using your levels she is a solid 5/6 intermediate. Just starting 180’s and enjoying off piste.
    She’s 5’5, 138 and US size 7 – not likely to grow much taller.
    Using your “Best all-mountain” list, I was trying to figure if the Hel Yes was too much board and we should go for the Yes Hello and then whether to go up to the 149 or stay with 146.
    Although not on your list, as a Lib Tech fan, I looked at the Dynamiss (her brother has an orca). Happy to look at Capita as well…
    Help appreciated,
    Yours,
    Mike

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    • Nate says

      January 25, 2022 at 9:38 am

      Hi Mike

      Thanks for your message.

      I think she’ll probably be fine with the Hel Yes for the level you’re describing. The Hello would work too, but the Hel Yes should be OK I think. In terms of sizing, probably 146, but 149 isn’t out of range either. I would put her on roughly a 149 as her “standard all-mountain” size, which assumes an advanced level. Not a bad idea to size down a little for intermediate, but you don’t have to. Also, it kind of depends on her strength. Often kids that age haven’t quite found their strength, so erring a little smaller makes sense. However, if she’s quite strong/athletic, then 149 should be fine.

      I would say the Dynamiss is slightly more advanced than the Hel Yes – I found the Dynamo quite forgiving, but my women’s board tester found the Dynamiss quite stiff and not super catchy, but a little catchy. Could look at something like the Lib Tech No.43 or GNU Ladies Choice – though not as good in powder – or the GNU Ravish – more suited powder, but not as suited to freestyle stuff.

      From Capita I’d look at the Paradise. The Equalizer is doable if you wanted something more freeride and less freestyle oriented.

      Hope this helps

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24. Jo says

    January 20, 2022 at 9:00 am

    Hello,

    Ive been riding for about 2 years, Michigan so not too much powder. IO tried the Burton Feelgood camber a few rimes and it is way too aggressive for me. I’m looking into buying a new board and am stumped. I love to carve, and am stuggling with my s-turns, the feelgood is not forgiving at all. I’m 5’6 125lbs 7.5 boot. Help me 🙂 please. Thank you.

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    • Nate says

      January 20, 2022 at 3:41 pm

      Hi Jo

      Thanks for your message.

      The Feelgood is not a forgiving board for sure, it’s quite aggressive.

      If you’re looking for something quite a bit more forgiving, then I’d look at the following, if you still want it to be decent for powder:

      – YES Hello
      – Rossignol Airis

      If you want it to be more forgiving but not too forgiving – like just taking the edge off the aggressiveness (or said another way – something that’s not overly aggressive but also not overly playful), but still want OK powder, then:

      – YES Hel Yes
      – Jones Twin Sister
      – Arbor Swoon Rocker

      Or if you’re not concerned about powder, then you could also look at:

      >>My Top 5 Women’s All-Mountain Freestyle Snowboards

      With the Niche Nightshade and Lib Tech Ryme being on the more aggressive side – but certainly not as aggressive as the Burton Feelgood camber.

      Hope this helps

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25. Jules says

    January 4, 2022 at 12:31 am

    Hi Nate,

    Thanks so much for your website! I wish I could just go and test out all kinds of boards like you – what a dream! But unfortunately I live too far away from the mountains now. So thanks for sharing your knowledge!!
    I’d love to get your input as I’m not 100% happy with my current board choices. I’ve been riding for over 25 years, so consider myself pretty advanced and love speed and carving. As I’m the only snowboarder among all my friends and family, I mostly stick to groomers but love the occasional powder and off-piste day when it happens. I’m 5.4”/110lbs/7.5 Salomon Ivy. My knees only allow for a 490mm stance (+21/-5).
    Spent 10 years on a 144 Feelgood Flying V – nice board but hate the chatter at high speed and lack of edge grip on ice – so I now sized up to a new 146 Feelgood traditional camber. It’s nice and super sturdy but after 7 days on not-so-great alpine snow conditions my knees hurt… I also have a 2018 148 GNU Klassy (145 was sold out at the time) which is absolutely wonderful on East coast hard pack but sometimes difficult to maneuver around moguls. Wondering if I should get something different for my CO trip in February? The Hel Yes sounds phenomenal based on your reviews but I believe my size is already sold out. Would the Yes Hello be too soft for my style? Any input on the Libtech/GNU options like Ladies Choice, Barrett, Ravish and which size? I have several Burton Lexas but happy to try out other bindings if you recommend it.
    Thanks again!

    Cheers,
    Jules

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    • Nate says

      January 4, 2022 at 1:06 pm

      Hi Jules

      Thanks for your message. And yeah, it’s pretty sweet to be able to test so many boards (and bindings and boots, etc), but that’s definitely what we’re here for – to give as accurate a comparison between boards, to make decisions easier for those that can’t try (or don’t want to, or simply don’t want to try the shear number that we do).

      Firstly, in terms of sizing, I’d typically say more around 142/143 for your specs, but given that you’re used to riding a little longer, 145/146 should be all good. Though, I’m not surprised you find the 148 Klassy difficult to maneuver in tight spaces.

      I agree that the Hel Yes would have been a great option, if you could find it in the 146 – but anything else would be too big, IMO. The Hello probably too soft for how you describe your riding, IMO.

      Given you like the Klassy and that you like speed and carving, I would be leaning towards the Barrett (146) from GNU. The Ladies Choice probably not enough in terms of speed for what you’re describing and the Ravish I feel might be a little too playful as well – given the C2 (more rocker than camber) profile and a softer flex.

      The Barrett isn’t super stiff or anything either. I would say 6.5/10. A little softer than the Feelgood camber. I linked to our review of it above, if you wanted to look at more details.

      Another option to look at for a good all-rounder, is the Jones Twin Sister. I would typically say go 143, but you could 146 too.

      I think one of the Hel Yes, Barrett or Twin Sister would be a good bet for something that can carve, ride fast but still be a little bit forgiving, so you’re not having to ride it hard every second, like something like the Feelgood camber – but with better edgehold etc than the Feelgood Flying V and in a better size than the 148 Klassy.

      The Lexas should work fine for any of those options. If you were being really fussy, you could move up to the Lexa X for the Barrett (or something like the Union Legacy or Union Trilogy) – or even the Hel Yes or Twin Sister, but the Lexa will be all good, IMO, so no need to change bindings.

      Hope this helps with your decision

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      • Jules says

        January 6, 2022 at 11:09 am

        You’re amazing, thanks so much for the super quick reply! All of that makes sense – and I’ve been doing some digging, but it seems that the 146 Barrett and Hel Yes are sold out nationwide. I might be able to get the 143 or 146 Twin Sister locally – my only concern is that the ref stance is listed at 53cm with no set back. Would that work for my 48-49cm stance without messing up control over the board? And if you have any other suggestions where to look for boards, or alternative boards I should check out, let me know 🙂

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        • Nate says

          January 7, 2022 at 1:06 pm

          Hi Jules

          Jones always have super wide reference stances. I almost always bring my stance in with Jones boards. For my size, the reference stance is typically 60cm (23.6″) but I always bring that back to 56cm (22″). So if you move both bindings in one hole from reference, you can achieve a 49cm stance. Being one hole in from reference won’t mess up the feel of the board – and it’s better to be at your more comfortable stance width.

          Also note that the Twin Sister does have a setback stance. This has been confusing with the Twin Sister (and Mountain Twin) for years. There is a “centered stance” and a “freeride stance” also labelled on the board. The centered stance is as it sounds – “centered” along the effective edge. Still a 5mm setback on the overall length of the board as the nose is 10mm longer than tail. The centered stance is 51cm wide, as it’s achieved by moving the back binding towards the center one set of holes. The reference stance has a setback of 20mm and the freeride stance (achieved by moving the front binding back one set of holes) has a 40mm setback.

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          • Jules says

            January 10, 2022 at 6:18 am

            Super helpful advice as always! Thanks, Nate! I purchased a 143 Twin Sister and will report back from the slopes when I get there 🙂

          • Nate says

            January 11, 2022 at 2:13 pm

            You’re very welcome Jules. Look forward to hearing how you get on!

26. Damla says

    December 25, 2021 at 1:40 pm

    Hi Nate,

    Hope you are enjoying the holidays, thank you for the very informative reviews and responses! I am a beginner level 3 based on your descriptions. I am mostly a resort boarder. I am 5ft4 and and 110-115ibs and my boot size is 7.5. I will be using a step on binding/boots. Would the Capita Paradise be too aggressive for me? I want something relatively versatile in icy/powder/slushy conditions. Also, what size board should I get, I was thinking 141, 143, or 145?
    Thank you, looking forward to your advice!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      December 27, 2021 at 6:02 pm

      Hi Damla

      Thanks for your message.

      I think ideally you’d be level 4 beginner or up for the Paradise, but you could ride it at as a level 3 at a push.

      Size-wise, I would say your standard all mountain size is around 143, assuming a relatively advanced level. As a beginner, I would size to the 141 or 139 though. The 141 should be fine and I think the 139 could be pushing it too narrow for your boots. Would probably get away with it, but I think the 141 should work anyway.

      It’s not super good for icy conditions, but doable.

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply

      • Damla says

        December 28, 2021 at 11:43 am

        Thank you Nate, this is very helpful! I have actually also been considering Emoticon (143) after reading that your wife likes it a lot and it’s very versatile and great in icy conditions. Do you think that Emoticon might be a better fit given my level? I want a board that will help me progress but also one that I can grow into and use for a considerable time. I’m also happy to take other suggestions (I was looking into GNU Velvet)!

        Reply

        • Nate says

          December 30, 2021 at 6:18 pm

          Hi Damla

          The Emoticon would be a great board for your level and something that you can still ride as you grow more advanced. My only concern there would be the size. It’s at the high-end of size for you, IMO. But the board is a better fit for your level, IMO.

          The Velvet is a bit more of step up – more on par with the Paradise, in terms of level. If you were to go Velvet, I’d say go 139. Problem there though, is that it’s probably too narrow for your boots. And I would go 143 Emoticon or 141 Paradise before I went 143 Velvet.

          Reply

          • Damla says

            January 1, 2022 at 9:28 am

            Hi Nate, wishing you a happy new year!! This is extremely helpful, I will go with 143 in Emoticon based on your advise.

          • Nate says

            January 2, 2022 at 3:46 pm

            You’re very welcome Damla. Happy new and happy riding!

27. Tiffany says

    December 17, 2021 at 1:09 pm

    Hi Nate, thanks for your wealth of information here! Feels like the more I learn, the more confusing it is to pick a board out.

    I am an int-adv rider, and I’ve been riding a Burton Social 142 for the past 8 years (same board I learned on), with Burton Citizen bindings. I’m 5’3″, 125lbs, size 6 boot. I’ve been looking at all mountain boards (or maybe a freeride board?). I love going off-piste, finding powder stashes, cruising moguls and trees, and prefer steeps over speed. I don’t go near the park, and generally dislike groomers (partly for the amount of people, and partly because I don’t feel confident with speed). I’m in Colorado where conditions range from icy to deep powder. At this point in my riding, its hard to tell if it is my beginner set up or my skill level that is holding me back from advancing.

    I am torn between an all mountain board and freeride board. I want a board that can hold an edge and handle speed well, but is still nimble enough for moguls and the trees. Any insight you can offer is much appreciated!

    Thanks again, Tiffany

    Reply

    • Nate says

      December 18, 2021 at 2:15 pm

      Hi Tiffany

      Thanks for your message. Lots of options that fit what you’re describing, but let’s see what we can narrow it down to.

      I think you could definitely do a freeride board. By the sounds of how you ride, I think a freeride board that’s not overly stiff would work well. An all-mountain board would work too.

      In terms of size, I would say something around 145 for your specs, assuming a fairly advanced level. But given your boot size, most boards are going to be wide for your boots at that length, so I would size down a little from there, depending on the width of the board.

      First board that came to mind was the Capita Equalizer – a freeride bordering on all-mountain board, that’s nimble. It’s also quite narrow. It would be a debate between the 142 and 146. The 146 would be the more stable at speed size, but the 142 would be more nimble. So it kind of depends which you value more. Even though it’s the same length as your social, the Equalizer would still be more stable at speed in the 142 than your 142 Social. It’s stiffer (but not super stiff) and has a good bit of camber in the profile versus the V Rocker of the Social.

      Some others that could work:

      Burton Story Board 142: It’s wide for your boots, but sizing to 142, it should be OK. Probably not going to be as nimble as the Equalizer 142, but likely a little more stable at speed. And certainly more stable at speed than the Social. The advantage of this over something like the Feelgood camber, is you get that rocker at the nose for better powder float.

      Jones Twin Sister 143: Again, it’s wide for your boots, but not overly long, so I think it could work. Because of width I wouldn’t go as long as 146 on this one.

      Never Summer Infinity 142 or 145: Same kind of debate as with the Equalizer as to which size to choose. This is a narrower board, so I think it would work well with your foot size.

      Never Summer Lady West 142 or 144: A little more advanced than the Infinity and more freeride than the all-mountain infinity, but sizing works well, IMO. A little stiffer, so it depends on how stiff you’d want to go

      My instinct says Equalizer or Infinity/Lady West. Between the last 2, kind of depends on how directional you wanted to go and how stiff you wanted to go.

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply

28. Sunshine says

    December 14, 2021 at 9:18 pm

    Hi Nate,
    I’ve been looking for new board and found your page… leaning so much and very helpful!
    I’m 5′, 110lb, boots size 6. intermediate rider. I currently ride burton feel good small 140.( I realized that its too wide for me) I would like to try more buttering, spinning tricks and jumps. no so much of powder since i usually ride smaller hills.

    what do you think of these boards?

    never summer infinity 142
    never summer ProtoSynthesis 139

    do you think ProtoSynthesis would be too aggressive for me?
    infinity 142 would be too long for tricks on the ground?

    let me know what you think!
    Thanks so much

    Reply

    • Nate says

      December 15, 2021 at 1:04 pm

      Hi Sunshine

      Thanks for your message.

      The Proto Synthesis (PS) is the more aggressive board, for sure. But it’s also more suited to the things you’re describing. That said, the Infinity would be absolutely fine for those things. Size-wise, the PS is the better size in 139 for you, IMO versus the 142 for the Infinity. I think you’d get away with the size of the Infinity in general, but because you’re looking to get more freestyle oriented, ideally a little smaller.

      You could also look at the GNU Ladies Choice (139.5, which is nice and narrow) which isn’t as aggressive as the PS. But from those 2, I would be leaning PS.

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply

      • Sunshine says

        December 15, 2021 at 2:27 pm

        thanks so much for your reply! hearing from you really helps!

        I think I’m leaning to PS. GNU ladies Choice sounds good though.

        Now i have a question for bindings. I have burton boots so thinking about
        burton Escapade or Lexa.
        which one would be better? I’m guessing Lexa X would be too stiff?

        looking forward to hear from you again!
        thanks so much!

        Reply

        • Nate says

          December 16, 2021 at 1:18 pm

          Hi Sunshine

          The Lexa and Escapade would both suit either board well, IMO. I would be leaning Escapade, but Lexa definitely isn’t a wrong choice for those boards. But yeah, I’d say Lexa X a little too stiff.

          Reply

          • Sunshine says

            December 16, 2021 at 2:20 pm

            Thanks so much for taking your time.
            I’m super excited to get a board that actually fit me!
            THANK YOU!

          • Nate says

            December 17, 2021 at 4:52 pm

            You’re very welcome Sunshine. Hope it treats you well. If you think of it at the time let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get it out on snow. Happy riding!

29. Kat McNeill says

    December 10, 2021 at 6:07 pm

    Hi Nate,

    This review has been so helpful! Thanks you! Wondering if you could help me figure out sizing… I’m a high-intermediate level rider and I’m upgrading from a 138cm board I’ve had since middle school. I mostly ride in Colorado and Utah and do a bit of everything (including switch). I’m looking at the Jones Twin Sister or the Yes Hello but am not really sure which size would be best. I think you said somewhere the twin sister is somewhat wide and I have smaller feet… I’m 5’4, 135lbs, size 6.5 feet. Also do you have any binding recommendations for either of the two boards? Thanks so much!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      December 11, 2021 at 2:20 pm

      Hi Kat

      Thanks for your message.

      I would say something around 146 would be just right for you, if it was a good width. But given your foot size, those boards will be on the wider side. Particularly the Twin Sister. So I would go 143 for the Twin Sister. If you went Hello, you’d have to go 146. It’s certainly still within your range, but it’s on the bigger end of your range, because of the combination of length and width. But still doable. But between the two, I would be leaning 143 Twin Sister, just because I think it’s the better size.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

30. Tasha says

    December 9, 2021 at 8:32 pm

    Hi Nate

    I apologize if I am repeating myself. I thought I wrote you before but can’t find any comment from me or answer from you. Anyway, I would love quick advice from you!

    I have been snowboarding since I was in high school and am in my 40s now, so pretty experienced/advanced rider. I used to live in Tahoe but now I am in NYC so only ride a few times a year when we go on our annual trips – to Austria where I see a lot of steep/icy conditions and to Utah where we try to get as much powder (live for powder) and tree runs as possible.

    I have been riding a 151 Burton Fortress which has been cool but sometimes near the end of the day when I am getting tired I find it becomes a bit harder for me to maneuver. Definitely a board that performs best when I ride more aggressively.

    I am ready for a new board and am considering the Yes Hel Yes but I can’t choose between the 146 and the 149

    I am 5’6″
    120-125 lbs
    Size 9 boot

    Also wondering which binding I should pair with this board. A trusted Tahoe friend says he loves NOW bindings, but that’s all I have heard so far.

    Thank you!!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      December 10, 2021 at 12:11 pm

      Hi Tasha

      Thanks for your message.

      I did get your other message, and replied. It was on this post. I will paste the reply below, so you don’t have to go searching for it.

      In that message, I asked for boot size and I see you mentioned it this time. So, I would say 146 typically, but it’s a close call, given the board you’re currently used to. The 146 is on the narrower side for 9s, but shouldn’t be too narrow. The 149 is certainly not out of range though. It’s very doable and since you’ve been used to riding a 151, that makes it even more doable. This might help you to decide:

      – 149 will give better float in powder and more stability at speed
      – 146 will provide more maneuverability at slower speeds, better in trees, better for freestyle stuff and all round a little easier, less effort to ride.

      I think you’ll find even the 149 less taxing than the Fortress. I don’t know much about the Fortress but looking at the specs, it looks pretty stiff, full camber and a lot of effective edge versus overall length. With the 149 you’d get a softer flexing board with less effective edge and a little rocker in the profile to help mellow things out. The Fortress seems like a pretty stiff, aggressive ride. So, if you want to mellow out your ride a bit, but not too much, then the 149 probably makes more sense. The 146 would be my first choice, purely based on specs and how you describe your riding. But because of your familiarity with a board like the Fortress and in the 151 size, the 149 might be more suitable.

      If you’re not doing any buttering, ollies or that kind of thing, then I think a NOW binding would be a good match – the only thing that I don’t like about them was the butterability aspect. For the Hel Yes, if you were to go witha NOW binding, I would go with either the Brigada or Conda. If going Brigada, I would use the stiffer bushings (NOW has replaceable bushings which can have a subtle affect on flex – the stiffer bushing’s making the bindings a little stiffer). If going Conda, I would use the medium bushings.

      Hope this helps

      Previous reply below.

      Hi Tasha

      Thanks for your message.

      For what you’re describing, I think the Hel Yes should work well. Size-wise I’d probably go with the 146. But if you could also let me know your boot size, that would help with sizing too.

      In terms of bindings, I would pair the Hel Yes, with something around a 6/10 flex and up to 7/10 flex. Something from the following:

      >>Top Women’s All-Mountain Bindings

      >>Top Women’s Freeride Bindings

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Tasha says

        December 10, 2021 at 8:34 pm

        Thanks so much for the awesome feedback! I’ll let you know which size I end up with.

        Any other bindings besides the NOW you would suggest for this board?

        Reply

        • Nate says

          December 11, 2021 at 2:36 pm

          You’re very welcome Tasha.

          My apologies, I forgot to add the links in my previous response.

          I would be looking at something around 6/10 to 7/10 flex. The following should give you some good options in that flex range.

          >>Top Women’s All-Mountain Bindings

          >>Top Women’s Freeride Bindings

          If you have any questions about those, let me know

          Reply

31. Lonneke says

    December 6, 2021 at 11:54 pm

    Hi Nate,

    To be quite honest, I have no idea what kind of board would be best for me…

    I am going to participate in the anwarter-course in Austria in about two weeks and my (about 5 years) old board (burton hybrid camber) is broken, so I am in desperate need for a new one.

    I´ve read a lot of reviews and top-10 lists, but am not that much wiser.

    For the anwarter we need to complete two carve-runs, a piste-trick freestyle run and we need to demonstrate different drift-turns. Conclusion: a very versitale board is needed, which also would be able to support switch-riding.

    I am mostly concerned about the grip and edge control by carving and the ability of the board to ride switch.

    Really hoping you could help me out here!

    Looking forward to hearing from you 🙂

    Reply

    • Nate says

      December 7, 2021 at 12:17 pm

      Hi Lonneke

      Thanks for your message.

      I think you’re in the right place here. Very versatile boards that are really do-it-all boards. Given you’re need for that carving side of things, I wouldn’t go with a rocker dominant board, like the Swoon Rocker or the Feelgood Flying V. The Feelgood camber also, might make the freestyle run a little trickier. Assuming at least a solid intermediate level of riding, I think the Swoon Camber, Hel Yes and Twin Sister would be your best bets.

      If you’re not in need of something with good powder performance, you could also check out the Lib Tech Ryme, Never Summer Proto Synthesis, Niche Nightshade or GNU Pro Choice. Which will all be a little better for switch, but not as good in powder. Note that the Hel Yes, Twin Sister and Swoon Camber are all fine for riding switch, but just not quite as good.

      Also, let me know if you’re looking for any sizing help. I would be happy to give you my opinion.

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply

32. Zach says

    December 2, 2021 at 8:24 pm

    Buying a snowboard for my girlfriend. She is an intermediate rider, the majority of her runs are on groomers, however we love playing in the powder whenever we’re lucky enough to get it. She usually sticks to blues unless there is some powder we head to the steeper stuff. Never goes in the park. Rarely ever rides switch, sometimes just briefly. The Yes Hel Yes caught our eye but were a little worried about seeing that it’s a board for advanced riders. Do you think the Hel Yes sounds like a good fit get her capabilities, or should we snag something off your Intermediate list?

    Reply

    • Nate says

      December 4, 2021 at 10:57 am

      Hi Zach

      Thanks for your message.

      The Hel Yes is doable for high end intermediate riders, for sure, IMO. But if she’s more low to mid Intermediate, if that makes sense, then it might be a bit of a stretch. The YES Hello is worth checking out, if you think the Hel Yes would be too much. It’s essentially a mellower version of the Hel Yes. If you’re not sure about her level, you could check out this to see if it helps you to get a better idea.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Zach says

        December 7, 2021 at 5:29 pm

        Hey Nate,

        Thanks for the response and all of the incredibly helpful and thorough info on this website. Amazing website!

        I am going buy the Lib Tech Cortado for my girlfriend and sister and am having trouble figuring out the best size. Both riders are high-level intermediate riders that love the pow when we are lucky enough to get it. If not they are carving groomers with an occasional tree run here and there. Never in the park.

        Rider 1 is 5’8” 155lbs
        Rider 2 is 5’7″ 135lbs

        The lib tech cortado has a 151 and 154… I’m leaning 154 I think for both riders. Or should the 135# rider be best on a 151? What do you think?

        Reply

        • Nate says

          December 8, 2021 at 12:22 pm

          Hi Zach

          Size-wise for the Cortado, I wouldn’t go that big. It’s a wider board – kind of like a semi-short/wide.

          Even at a regular width, I’d be debating between 151 and 154 for Rider 1. 154 only if really wanting to maximize powder performance, but probably 151 for all round performance, particularly if she’s riding trees. 154 not out or range though. But because of that extra width, depending on boot size, I’d probably go 148.

          For rider 2, if it was a regular width, then I’d be debating between the 148 and 145. With that width though, I wouldn’t go longer than 145, depending on boot size.

          So you probably know my next question! If you can let me know their boot sizes, that would really help.

          Reply

          • Zach says

            December 8, 2021 at 2:45 pm

            Interesting. I didn’t realize the Cortado was wider than the average all-mountain board. What are the pros and cons of the extra width?

            Rider 1 – 5’8″, 155lbs, Size 8 boot
            Rider 2 – 5’7, 134lbs, Size 8.5 Boot

            Appreciate your help!!

          • Nate says

            December 9, 2021 at 1:47 pm

            Hi Zach

            The Extra width helps with float in powder (and can help with a wider platform for landing jumps and depending on boot size, you might need the extra width to avoid boot drag of course. But mostly a short wide board allows you to go shorter but not sacrifice on surface area for powder purposes – and particularly for powder in trees. It gives you a shorter board that can be better for weaving through trees without clipping your tail on the way through for example. The biggest con of going too wide, IMO, is that it can make turn initiation difficult – usually sizing down, if you size down enough counteracts that though. Basically when your feet are too far inside the edges of the board, it just makes getting leverage on the edges harder – makes the turn initiation a little delayed as well as requiring more force physically to get the board to turn. The other downside is that by sizing down you lessen effective edge – so when doing big carves you’ve got less edge to work with, which can affect stability at speed and carving. At the point you’re really on your edge and letting the sidecut do the work on your turn, the width of the board isn’t felt anymore – when you’re purely carving that width doesn’t help with stability. But it can help with stability for landings or when flat basing. Hope all that makes sense.

            If you did go Cortado with those boot sizes, then I would look at:

            Rider 1: 148
            Rider 2: 145

33. Tom says

    November 30, 2021 at 2:17 pm

    Hello, I went through most of Nate’s suggestions but I can’t find one that fit my situation. My daughter is 17 years old, 6ft even and about 145lbs. Her shoe size is woman’s 11. She did 2 seasons on rental equipment and every time they suggested a different size board. She will spent her time mostly on Wisconsin’s groomed hills. I want to surprise her this upcoming Christmas and purchase a board for her but still confused on which one and what size.
    Little birdie told me that she is looking for something in 152-155 range, is that right?HELP!!!!!!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      December 1, 2021 at 10:50 am

      Hi Tom

      Thanks for your message.

      Firstly, in terms of sizing. Assuming roughly a high-end beginner to low intermediate level?, I would say something in the range of 150-152 would be her best bet. I wouldn’t go longer than 152 at this stage. Up to 153, if she’s more advanced than I’m assuming, but I wouldn’t go as long as 155. Given she wears 11s, the width will be the most difficult thing to accommodate, when looking at women’s boards.

      Not sure if you know what her bindings angles are, but if she’s riding something like +15 degrees on the front binding and -15 on the back binding, then she could go as low as 245mm waist width (depending on the board – boards differ in their width at inserts versus waist width) – but if she’s riding with a very flat back binding angle, like 0-3 degrees, then probably want to go at least 252mm at the inserts. As a high-end beginner/low intermediate (again making an assumption there), she’s probably not really railing her carves yet, so she could get away with a little narrower than that.

      Some options worth looking at (depending on binding angles):

      – Burton Feelgood Flying V 152 (244mm waist – it’s borderline, but if she is riding at +15/-15, should be fine)
      – Burton Yeasayer Flat Top or Flying V (247mm waist)
      – Jones Twin Sister 152 (246mm waist)
      – Salomon Gypsy 151 (247m waist)
      – Salomon Wonder 152 (245mm waist)

      I think any of those would work. The likes of the Yeasayer and Gypsy are more what I call all-mountain-freestyle, but they’re good for resort riding, if she’s not going to be getting into any deep powder any time soon. Something like the Twin Sister is maybe a little bit of a stretch at that high-beginner, low intermediate level. But if she’s more solid intermediate than I’m assuming, it would work well.

      I’m guessing she doesn’t have boots yet? When she does, if she ends up in 10.5s, that would give a little more leeway in terms of width – and all the options above should be fine, regardless of binding angles. In my experience, if her shoe size is 11, then she’ll either end up in 10.5, 11 or 11.5 boots.

      If you were happy to look at men’s boards as well, there will be a number of suitable options in the length/width range we’re looking at.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

34. Daniella says

    November 28, 2021 at 5:54 pm

    Hi Nate,

    I’ve been reading reviews on your website and would love your opinion on what might be the best board for me (I’ve been going crazy over here). I’m an intermediate – higher intermediate rider who’s looking to upgrade from my youth 138 Burton Feelgood that I’ve had since middle school. The biggest problem I’ve been having is feeling sketchy at higher speeds since I’ve become a more aggressive rider. And I’m hoping to continue to progress in riding more aggressively by maintaining stability at higher speeds, carving, smaller jumps, light buttering, maybe some tree and bowl action.

    My home mountains are Big Bear and Mammoth, so I’m looking for something that can handle a bit of everything – groomers, trees, small jumps, the occasional powder and off-piste day. I’ve kinda narrowed down the list to the Jones Twin Sister and the Arbor Cadence Camber. What would you recommend for me? I’m also open to other boards as well.

    I’m 5ft 2in, about 114lbs and am size 6 in shoes.

    Looking forward to your advice! Thanks.

    Reply

    • Daniella says

      November 28, 2021 at 6:15 pm

      Also contemplating the Yes Hel Yes!

      Reply

      • Nate says

        November 29, 2021 at 1:01 pm

        Hi Daniella

        Thanks for your message.

        Given what you’re describing, I think any of those would work – and would give you that extra stability your seeking from the current board your riding. If you’re looking to ride some powder in the mix, then I’d be leaning Twin Sister or Hel Yes. The Swoon Camber can handle powder OK, but the others will float a little easier in there, IMO. Also you referred to the Cadence Camber, but I was guessing that you meant the Swoon Camber. However, if you did mean the Cadence Camber, not that it’s more freestyle oriented, than all-mountain and whilst it would be fine for most of what you’re describing, I would be leaning Swoon Camber over Cadence Camber for what you’re wanting it for.

        Size-wise, for your specs, I would be looking at something around 141/142, and with your boot size, you could even go smaller than that, if the board is a bit wide for your boots. So, IMO, the smallest Hel Yes, is going to be too big. Therefore, I think the Twin Sister is your best bet. And I think the 140 is the way to go. It’s going a little shorter, but it is going to be wide for your boots, so that sizing down a little bit makes sense, IMO. If you decided to go Swoon Camber, i.e. if you weren’t too concerned about deep powder (it will be fine in moderate powder), then the 143 would work. It’s on the longer side for you, IMO, but it’s doable – and it’s a bit narrower than the Twin Sister.

        Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision

        Reply

        • Daniella says

          November 30, 2021 at 8:33 pm

          Thanks, Nate! I’m going to go with the Twin Sister.

          I’d like to understand a bit more about deciding on the right size for me, as I’ve had some conflicting advice. What would be the major drawback on going larger than 140 on the Twin Sister? I know you mentioned it would be too wide for me if I went with the 143 or 146. However, I received advice that although the 146 is on the wider side, because of my progression, where I’m riding (Big Bear + Mammoth), and the twin flex on the board, I would enjoy the ride. Plus, the effective edge is not as long as the board.

          What do you think about that? Thanks so much for your advice and appreciate the help!

          Best,
          Daniella

          Reply

          • Nate says

            December 1, 2021 at 11:56 am

            Hi Daniella

            The major drawback would be the effort it would take to turn the board at slower speeds. Particularly if you went 146, it’s going to be something that’s slow to turn and take quite a bit of effort to turn sharply when riding slower. Because your feet would be a good way inside the edges of the board, you simply have to put more effort in to initiate a turn – the leverage is just more difficult to obtain. If you were a heavier rider, then the wider factor wouldn’t be felt as much – as you would have more pressure to apply to the edges. At your weight though, I wouldn’t want to be that far inside the edges. Also the longer the length, the harder to maneuver, so the combination of that length and width would be too big, IMO. You would certainly have good stability at speed and float in powder at that length. So, if you think you’ll be bombing most of the time, not really ever riding slow or need short sharp turns, and you’ll be riding a lot of powder, then it’s doable. But for all round riding, I’d say don’t go 146. The effective edge on the Twin Sister isn’t super long compared to overall length, but it’s also not short compared to overall length. It’s about average (effective edge is never as long as the board – even boards with a long effective edge versus overall length, the effective edge is always a good bit shorter than overall length) – check this out for more on effective edge.

            But if you are worried about the 140 being too small, the 143 is doable though. It will be optimized more towards bombing/powder, but still OK for slower speed/tighter stuff. I just wouldn’t go as long as 146, with your specs.

35. Rob says

    November 27, 2021 at 2:37 am

    Hi Nate,

    Really like the helpful website, I’ve been down a rabbithole this morning of reading all your board reviews and advice 🙂

    I’m a smaller and lighter guy (5’6″ and 120 lbs size 7.5 US mens boot) so I started looking at womens boards due to them having a narrower waist which seemed to fit my smaller feet.

    I’d say I was a good intermediate level, been boarding for 20 years but only get to go a couple of weeks a year.
    Currently ride an ancient almost 20 year old Salomon fastback which while really long at 156 had a narrow waist at 245mm.
    Although its probably too stiff and too aggressive for my riding these days and completely wears me out by the end of the day,
    so I’m looking to update it to something more modern that’s a bit more chill to ride so I don’t have be maximum concentration all day 🙂

    I mostly ride groomers with some powder if there is any when I’m on holiday, some switch and some small jumps.
    Tend to avoid the park these days.

    I’ve eventually narrowed a short list down to:
    Salomon Rumblefish (148)
    Salomon Wonder (148)
    Jones Dream Catcher (148)
    Jones twin sister (146)

    I’m leaning more towards the Salomon rumblefish or maybe the wonder but I’m concerned the rumblefish might be too stiff and aggressive
    as the manufactures website lists it as ‘very stiff’.

    Any thoughts on my choices and the differences between the Wonder and Rumblefish?

    Thanks!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      November 27, 2021 at 5:30 pm

      Hi Rob

      Thanks for your message.

      Size-wise, I think those sizes should suit you well, both length and width. Could also consider the 149 Twin Sister and 151 Dream Catcher, but the 146/148 would also certainly work. Purely based on specs, I’d be leaning 146/148, but given that you’re ridden a 156 for so long, the 149/151 become options too.

      The Rumble Fish isn’t as stiff as Salomon rates it, IMO. They also rate the Salomon Assassin Pro as “very stiff” but I felt that at more like 6.5/10 – when they make it sound at least 8/10, by calling it very stiff. So, the Rumble Fish certainly stiffer than the Wonder – and probably a little stiffer than the Dream Catcher and Twin Sister, but nothing crazy in terms of stiffness. That said, if you’re looking for a more chill ride, then the Wonder is probably the way to go.

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply

      • Rob says

        November 29, 2021 at 12:45 pm

        Hi Nate,

        Thanks for taking the time to reply. It really helped break my analysis paralysis.

        After pretty much deciding on the Wonder, I then found a really great deal on last years Jones Dream Catcher so I’ve gone for that.

        Really looking forward to getting on the snow with it.

        Reply

        • Nate says

          November 30, 2021 at 1:20 pm

          You’re very welcome Rob. Always interested to hear how people get on with their new boards, so, if you think of it at the time let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get it out on snow. Happy riding!

          Reply

36. WetNoodle says

    November 26, 2021 at 6:08 am

    Hi Nate,

    I am an intermediate-advanced rider who has 12+ years of experience, but have been out of the game for the past 4 seasons. I have always rode more mellow boards because I liked playing in the park (’09 Forum Mini Youngblood (145); ’05 Burton Feather (147). Now I’m looking to get back into it and burn some COVID-related weight, haha. I’m 5’4 and 170lbs with a size 8 boot. I am looking for an all mountain board, and I hope to still be able to hit some jumps. Powder is no concern as the conditions where I live are pretty icy/groomed. Just looking for some recommendations and your input. Thanks!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      November 26, 2021 at 1:07 pm

      Hi Wetnoodle

      Given that you’re not concerned about powder, I would also look at all-mountain freestyle boards. You can check out some options at the following:

      >>My Top 5 Women’s All-Mountain Freestyle Snowboards

      From this list, I would be looking at:

      – YES Hel Yes
      – YES Hello (if you wanted to go a little mellower than the Hel Yes)
      – Jones Twin Sister
      – Rossignol Airis (again if you wanted to go mellower)

      Because they are good in hard/icy conditions and are still good for freestyle stuff.

      From the other list I just linked to, they’re all good in hard/icy conditions, IMO. The Ryme and Nightshade in that list are the most aggressive rides. The Ladies Choice and No.43 the most mellow and the Proto Synthesis in between.

      If you narrowed those down to 2-3 options, I’d be happy to give you my sizing opinion for each specific board.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • WetNoodle says

        November 27, 2021 at 12:23 pm

        Hi Nate,

        I appreciate your input. I was looking at Yes boards, but unfortunately the only option in town is the Yes Basic (148). I also found Libtech Skate Banana (156), Capital Scott Evens (155) and older (2018) Ride Burnout (155) which would be the closest to what I’m looking for without having to order. Any ideas in relation to these options?

        Thanks!

        Reply

        • Nate says

          November 27, 2021 at 5:43 pm

          Hi WetNoodle

          IMO those are getting too big for you, particularly when combing the length and width of them, compared to your specs. I’d be looking at something more around 152 – and narrower as well. The YES Basic (149) could possibly work. A little shorter, but will still be wide for your boots, so sizing down would make sense there. But the others, IMO are too big. Are you able to order online? It would open up a lot more options.

          Reply

          • WetNoodle says

            November 28, 2021 at 7:35 am

            Hey Nate,

            Yeah, that makes sense. I was hoping to avoid the hassle of ordering online, but I found some sites. I am currently looking into ordering the Ladies Choice in 151.5 as it seems like a super fun board that will hold an edge really well. Thanks for all your input. it was nice to talk options!

          • Nate says

            November 29, 2021 at 11:43 am

            You’re very welcome. If you think of it at the time let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get it out on snow. Happy riding!

          • WetNoodle says

            November 30, 2021 at 5:15 am

            Hey Nate,

            Sorry I’m back to bug you again, haha.

            I’m just looking ahead at bindings, but I’m not sure if I’ll grab any this season because I am hoping my super old softer ones will get me by for 1 season. In relation to pairing the Ladies Choice, would you go with Burton Escapades or Union Triology? I figured Burton Lexas might also work well, but will be the stiffer option. And do you have any input on Now bindings? I’ve never ridden these so I’m not sure how they compare to giants like Burton and Union.

            Thanks again for all your help!

          • Nate says

            November 30, 2021 at 1:51 pm

            Hi WetNoodle

            I think Burton Escapade would be the best match. But The Trilogy would certainly work as would the Lexa. Lexa around 6/10 flex, with the Trilogy more like 6.5/10 and the Escapade more like 5/10. The Ladies Choice is more like 5/10. But the Trilogy and Lexa would still certainly match. Probably just wouldn’t go as stiff as the Lexa X (more like 7/10).

            NOW bindings have some things about them that I really like – and others that I like less. Biggest pro, is their shock absorption. It’s better than anything else in the industry that I’ve tried. Biggest con is their board feel for butters. I find flexing the board for butters with them more difficult. Certainly compared to the likes of Burton Re:Flex or Union mini-disc bindings – but even versus their universal disc bindings. Another pro is their response. They do provide really good response. Another small con is their straps – I say small con, because they’re not terrible or anything, or uncomfortable, but I prefer a lot of other ankle straps over theirs.

          • WetNoodle says

            December 1, 2021 at 4:15 am

            Okay, thanks for the great input. Last question. I had someone tell me that if I’m looking at the Trilogy I might as well cough up some extra cash and get the Legacy, is there that mich of a difference between the two? I thought that they would be pretty comparable. Despite the specs of the Escapade, my friend suggested to go with Union instead. I haven’t ridden higher end Burton bindings (always middle of the pack – e.g. Stiletto, Scribe) so I figured their higher end stuff would be really responsive, and any of the options would be a nice upgrade.

          • Nate says

            December 1, 2021 at 12:19 pm

            Hi WetNoodle

            For sure, any of these options would be a nice upgrade from Stiletto, Scribe, so I don’t think you’d be disappointed in any of them.

            Between the Legacy versus the Trilogy, there is quite a bit of difference. They are similar in terms of overall response, but have a different feel to that response. The Legacy is more what I would describe as a springy/explosive type of response, versus the Trilogy which is more smooth/even/consistent. The Legacy have better board feel, thanks to that mini-disc, but given the big disc on the Trilogy, the board feel isn’t too bad. But definitely get a step up there with the Legacy.

            The Legacy also a little more comfortable, better shock absorption and a little lighter. They’re just a touch softer flexing too, so a little better match to the board, IMO.

            The Trilogy does have better adjustability and it’s not that far off in those other factors, but a combination of all those things, does make the Legacy a bit of a step up. But between the two, I think it would depend on the best match for the board your riding and the feel you want. If I had to choose, I’d say that the Legacy is the better match to the Ladies Choice, but you might prefer the sounds of a smoother, more even response and might even want something a little stiffer. The Trilogy certainly isn’t wrong for the board, but if I had to choose I’d be leaning Legacy.

          • WetNoodle says

            January 22, 2022 at 10:19 am

            Hey Nate,

            I just wanted to update you and thank you for all your help. I ended up with the Gnu Ladies Choice and Union Legacy bindings. OMFG is it ever a fun set up. The board is does everything I need it to do. Great for carving down groomers, pressing, going off little kickers and the bindings are very responsive! I’ve been hitting the slopes weekly and even though at first I was a bit reserved/nervous since I haven’t been in SO LONG, it has been like riding a bike. Every time is better and better!

          • Nate says

            January 24, 2022 at 5:43 pm

            Hey WetNoodle

            Thanks for the update! So good to hear your new setup is going well for you. Happy riding!

37. Annie says

    November 23, 2021 at 12:24 am

    Hi Nate!

    I am an intermediate to advanced rider (5’9, ~160 lbs, size 9 boot) and ride mostly groomers but like to go off-piste to cut through trees but will also be able to charge powder. I am looking for an all-mountain, single quiver board that can do everything outside the park – bomb down a mountain and still be able to carve well. I also want something that I can continue to progress with as I advance. I am on the West Coast so I board at Tahoe resorts.

    Based on the research I’ve done, I’ve narrowed it down to the Yes Hel Yes and the Bataleon Storm. I haven’t seen a lot of Bataleon boards on here but the Storm seems to have gotten a lot of hype for their 3BT. I am also curious to get your advice on sizing (152 or 156 for the Storm and 152 or 155 for the Hel Yes)

    Greatly appreciate any suggestions or advice!
    Annie

    Reply

    • Nate says

      November 23, 2021 at 1:01 pm

      Hi Annie

      Thanks for your message.

      Unfortunately haven’t tested any Bataleon boards yet. Hoping to get on some this winter, but for now, don’t really have any insight into Bataleon boards or 3BT.

      As you can see from this list, I highly recommend the Hel Yes, so that’s definitely an option – and fits what you’re describing well, IMO. You could also look at Freeride boards, since it sounds like you’re not really doing any freestyle (or riding switch?), but the Hel Yes would certainly be a good bet for what you’re describing, IMO.

      Size-wise, it’s a tight call between the 152 and 155 for the Hel Yes. I would be leaning 152 though. I don’t think you’d find the 155 massive or anything, but it’s just on the big side for your specs, IMO. Doable, but I like the 152 more for you. Particularly if you want to ride trees, I would be leaning 152. 155 not wrong for you, IMO, though, so the following might help:

      – 155 will provide better float in powder and more stability at speed
      – 152 more maneuverable at slower speeds, easier to handle overall and for your specs still going to provide good float in powder and stability at speed, IMO.

      Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision

      Reply

      • Annie Begin says

        November 23, 2021 at 2:21 pm

        Thanks Nate! Greatly appreciated

        Reply

        • Nate says

          November 24, 2021 at 2:22 pm

          You’re very welcome Annie. Happy riding!

          Reply

38. Leah says

    November 11, 2021 at 1:00 pm

    Hey Nate! I am an intermediate rider with an old forum aura under my boots. I’m looking to upgrade! I spend a lot of time on groomers but enjoy going off into the trees and trying new stuff. I’ve been recommended to get the capita birds of a feather, burton yeasayer Flying V and Salomon oh yea. I am not sure what is best for me. My main goal is to hold an edge and be in control at high speeds, but still be able to have fun and go through the trees.

    TIA 🙂

    Reply

    • Nate says

      November 12, 2021 at 10:20 am

      Hi Leah

      Thanks for your message.

      The Oh Yeah is a more freestyle oriented board, IMO and also something that I think you’re going to find doesn’t give you enough stability at high speeds.

      The Yeasayer Flying V is also something I wouldn’t be that high on if edge hold at high speeds is important to you.

      The Birds of a Feather (BOAF) could work. That would be the best of those 3 options, IMO.

      I see those are all twins. Do you like to ride switch? Or ride freestyle at all? If not, then you don’t have to go twin (you still can if you want (assuming you don’t ride powder that much?), but you can get advantages going with a directional board, if you’re not looking to ride switch/freestyle. Happy to make some recommendations for an intermediate appropriate directional board, if you’re OK to look outside those options. If you want to stick to one of those, I’d go BOAF.

      Also, important to get the sizing right. I’m happy to provide my opinion on that. Would just need your height, weight and boot size.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

39. Nikki says

    October 31, 2021 at 11:26 pm

    Hi Nate – been reading through these comments and you are so honest and helpful! Hope you might be able to help me out too.

    For reference, I’m 5’9″ and about 160lbs (size 9 boot).
    Three years ago I was a beginner-intermediate rider, just about to move out west, and looking for a new board. Someone ill-advised me to get a Ride Warpig 148cm. I have spent the last three seasons in Whistler struggling on this board, sticking to blue/black groomers, unable to progress much, and also too inexperienced to figure out why. I thought my board was the best? At least that’s what the sales guy said…
    Last year my friend gave me his Never Summer Proto Type 2 (160cm) to try for fun after hearing me complain. It was a WORLD of a difference. I felt like I could initiate turns easier, go faster and overall had way more fun. So I’m looking for a new board this season, but there are so many options out there. I don’t know if I should go with a hybrid camber like the Never Summer or a hybrid rocker. Right now I’d call myself an advanced intermediate rider, mostly on groomers and bowls, but starting to get into the steeper stuff and easy glades. No park or jumps or backcountry.

    Thanks!!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      November 1, 2021 at 12:19 pm

      Hi Nikki

      Thanks for your message.

      Firstly, in terms of sizing, I would put you at around 154cm for length (a standard all-mountain length), as an advanced rider. As an advanced intermediate rider, I wouldn’t go longer than 154 – something in the 151-154 range, depending on the board. In terms of width, with a size 9 boot, depending on preferred binding angles, I’d say between 240-246mm ideally with no angle on your back binding – and as narrow as 232mm (depending on boots and how you ride) with a 15 degree angle on your back binding. If you’re not sure of binding angles, then something in the 237-244 range would be a good bet.

      The 148 Warpig was far too wide for you, IMO. If you were going to go that wide, you would have needed to go a good bit shorter than that, IMO. A little surprised that you enjoyed the 160 PT2, as that’s really big for your specs, IMO. But it goes to show how much your feet didn’t like the width of the Warpig. Not just waist, but the Warpig 148 is around 270mm at the inserts, versus roughly 262mm on the PT2 160. That’s quite a big difference when it comes to width on a snowboard, even if it doesn’t sound like that much. Of course, it’s not just sizing that will affect how easy the board is to initiate a turn on, so there are other factors at play there as well, but sizing makes a big difference. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with how easy it is to turn a snowboard that’s correctly sized!

      Based on your experience with the PT2, I think Hybrid Rocker (which is what the PT2 is by my definition – hybrid rocker = rocker between the feet with camber towards tip and tail | Hybrid camber = camber between the feet, and usually under the feet, with rocker towards the tip and tail). Keeping something around the mid-flex is probably a good idea too.

      The Never Summer Women’s Proto Synthesis is certainly an option based on your experience. However, it is more freestyle oriented. It would still work for what you’re describing, but I think ideally something more directional, if you’re going to be riding powder at all. If no powder, then I think it’s a good option. If you did go Proto Synthesis, the 151 would be your best bet, IMO.

      Some other options:

      – GNU Ladies choice 151.5 or 153.5 – not like amazing for powder, but a little better than the PT2, IMO
      – Never Summer Infinity 151 – a little softer flexing than medium, IMO – more like 4/10, but still a good option if you like that idea. Though my instinct says you might find it a little soft, given that you liked the PT2 in 160. I feel like you might prefer something that gave you a bit more stability at speed
      – Lib Tech No.43 152 – again not great for powder, but a good option if you’re not too concerned with powder
      – GNU Barrett 152 – a little stiffer than medium at 6.5/10, but if you’re OK with that, a really good option, IMO, particularly if you’d like more powder performance
      – Never Summer Lady West 153 – again a little stiffer – closer to 7/10 flex, but another really good option, if you want better powder performance
      – GNU Ravish 152

      Of course a lot more options, if you wanted to also consider Hybrid Camber options, but I think if you got on well with the Hybrid rocker in the PT2, then I think it’s a good bet to go down that road.

      Hope this helps

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      • Nikki says

        November 14, 2021 at 3:18 pm

        Hi Nate – wow thank you so much!! So informative and helpful. In terms of big pow days, I only come across that maybe once or twice a season (limited riding to weekends only). Out of these options, which one do you think is best for holding a good edge and also helping me progress in my riding. Want to slowly try and get into more trees and feel better moving around moguls when I encounter them. The only other board I am considering beyond what you mentioned is the Yes Hello 155. Thanks again!

        Reply

      • Nikki says

        November 14, 2021 at 3:24 pm

        And yes I should add – I like the idea of a directional because I don’t ride switch and stability at high speed is great!

        Reply

        • Nate says

          November 15, 2021 at 1:39 pm

          Hi Nikki

          In terms of more directional options with good edge hold the Barrett, Lady West or Ravish, from the Hybrid Rocker options would be your best bet. The Ravish being the most easy going ride of them, with the Barrett and Lady West being a little stiffer/more advanced.

          The Hello is something that holds an edge really well and is a little bit directional (more so than the likes of Ladies Choice and No.43) but fairly close to a twin. It’s also a Hybrid Camber (just to make sure you’re aware – it’s not a bad thing, but just an FYI, given we were looking at Hybrid Rocker’s). It’s also a softer flexing option. A little stiffer than the Infinity we discussed, but softer than the Proto Synthesis. I would also be tempted to look at the 152 for you, but the 155 is doable. The other option, similar but not as soft, is the Hel Yes – closer in flex to the Proto Synthesis.

          Reply

          • Nikki says

            November 17, 2021 at 8:11 pm

            Thank you!! Last question – I found a Lady West but it’s 151cm, would I be happy with that as advanced intermediate rider or size up?

          • Nate says

            November 18, 2021 at 11:23 am

            Hi Nikki

            I think the 151 is doable for you, for sure. 151 is within your range. I think if you had the option, I’d be leaning 153, partly because you rode and liked a 160. If not for that information, it would be a pretty tight call between 153 and 151. So yeah, definitely doable, IMO, but ideally 153.

40. Emily says

    October 21, 2021 at 8:44 am

    Hello Nate! I was hoping you could advise me, as your past advice that I have read sounds so helpful!

    I am an intermediate rider, primarily resort, rarely hitting the park, love powder when I can, but generally riding pretty typical west coast terrain.

    I need a new board and boots this season and I am trying to figure out what might be best for me.

    About: 5’5, 135lbs, Burton size 7 boot.

    I have been primarily looking into the Capita Paradise (145) and Yes Hello (146), but wondering if either of these is best? And how much difference the bindings will make? Union bindings? So many choices!

    Thanks so much in advance!!
    Emily

    Reply

    • Nate says

      October 21, 2021 at 10:37 am

      Hi Emily

      Thanks for your message.

      Both boards are really good options for intermediate riders and nice and versatile. And I think you’ve got the sizing just right for both. Nice job! The Hello is better in icy conditions, IMO. Pretty similar for powder. I would be leaning Hello, but there isn’t a bad choice between them, for what you’re describing.

      In terms of bindings. I would say they make the least difference out of boards, boots and bindings, but still certainly make a difference, particularly if they are ill-suited to the board you’re riding or to your riding style or ability level. And of course, if they’re uncomfortable, then that’s always a concern.

      For the Hello and Paradise, something with a flex around 5/10 to 6/10 is your best bet. If you’re not really doing any freestyle stuff, you may not have to worry too much about shock absorption or board feel, but both can be nice regardless – particularly shock absorption, which is good for absorbing chatter as well as landings from jumps etc. I would check out the following (though they’re labeled freestyle and all-mountain, you don’t have to be riding freestyle to enjoy those in the freestyle list – there might be something in there that suits your purposes) – and pay attention to the flex ratings there and also the score breakdowns to help decide what you want the most out of your bindings:

      >>Top Women’s Freestyle Bindings

      >>Top Women’s All-Mountain Bindings

      Hope this helps with your decision

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41. Millie says

    October 9, 2021 at 2:07 pm

    Hi there, would really love your advice!

    I’ve been riding for 15 years, mostly advanced intermediate / advanced, prefer carving but want a board I can take into powder and trees and not feel awkward on. I’m 5’4, 125lbs, 8.5 shoe size and have a very old 2006 Burton Feelgood 151 I’ve been riding on. Yeah I know, it’s way too long for me but I guess I got used to it? I do like how I’ve felt stable at high speeds but now realizing it’s really not the best board for quick turns. Most of the time will be riding hard packed snow with a bit of powder now and then.

    I’m looking at the new Burton Feelgood Flying V, as well as the Story Book, but am open to more suggestions on the snowboard as well as the right length.

    Thanks!
    Millie

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    • Nate says

      October 11, 2021 at 2:58 pm

      Hi Millie

      Thanks for your message.

      The Feelgood Flying V will give you a better experience in powder, IMO, and be better in terms of easier short/sharp turns, even without sizing down. But I feel like you’ll likely miss the more camber dominant feel of the Feelgood if you’re used to that. Particularly if you’re riding hard pack most of the time. Flying V doesn’t tend to do that well in hard snow (in my experience).

      If you’re not riding any switch or really any freestyle, then I think the Story Board would be your better bet. It’s better in powder than the Feelgood and the rocker in the tip will likely help a little for faster turns (as well as powder). If you size down a bit (to the 147), then that’s going to give you something that’s certainly quicker turning than the 151 Feelgood. But at the same time, will still be stable, have better edge hold than the Flying V and still have a camber dominant feel that you’re used to (and is typically better for carving).

      Even at 147 it’s at the longer end of your range, for your specs (IMO), but I think it will be a good size, particularly given that you’re used to a 151.

      Of course, there are a lot of options for what you’re describing, but I think the Story Board would work well (assuming you’re not really doing any freestyle). If you wanted other options, I’m happy to provide some, but if you want to keep it simple, I think the Story Board 147 should work well.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Millie says

        October 11, 2021 at 3:47 pm

        Thanks! This is super helpful. I try to ride switch sometimes and that’s kind of the extent of my free styling hehe. How much of a problem would that be with the Storyboard? The other board I was thinking about was the Yes Hel Yes, which you clearly like here too! Would you go bigger on that one, and how would you compare vs. Story Board?

        Reply

        • Nate says

          October 12, 2021 at 11:05 am

          Hi Millie

          You could still ride the Story Board switch occasionally. It’s not going to feel that natural as it’s quite directional, but it’s doable.

          Hel Yes is a lot less directional than the Story Board – it’s not a true twin or anything, but it’s directional twin with a small setback, no taper. It’s pretty good for riding switch – in fact giving it 3.5/5 for switch is maybe a little harsh! Not as good in powder as the Story Board – those are probably 2 of the biggest performance differences – Hel Yes better for switch, not as good for powder – it’s still not bad in powder though – just that the Story Board really good there. Carving and speed pretty comparable. Flex similar – the Story Board a touch stiffer, but subtly. Hel Yes better for things like jumps, butters, spins, boxes/rails etc – but if you’re not doing any of those, then they’re not that relevant.

          Reply

          • Millie says

            October 12, 2021 at 3:38 pm

            Thanks that is super helpful!

          • Nate says

            October 13, 2021 at 10:20 am

            You’re very welcome Millie. If you think of it at the time, let me know what you end up going with and how you get on, once you’ve got a chance to get it out on snow.

42. Victoria says

    September 22, 2021 at 11:06 am

    Hello,

    So the board I have now is the burton Genie. It’s the largest size in kids, but I believe it is a little too short for me obvi lol. I’m 5’3 1/2 112 pounds. My biggest issue is I find the board catches the sides and I tent to wipe out. I find doing my turns or going over bumps it’s not stable.

    I’m looking to get a new board for my size. The two snowboards that interest me are the hel yes and the burton camber feel good. If you could let me know what you think of these two picks, I’d love feedback!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      September 23, 2021 at 12:19 pm

      Hi Victoria

      Thanks for your message.

      I didn’t think the Genie came in a kids version? Can you confirm what the size of your board is?

      For your specs, I would be looking at something around 142/143, assuming a relatively advanced level of riding. If you’re more of a beginner or intermediate rider, then something a little shorter. Could you also let me know your boot size. Boot size is important for sizing as well.

      For the Feelgood camber, you will want to be quite an advanced rider anyway, so for that I would go 142.

      For the Hel Yes you still want to be a capable rider, but a solid intermediate level is fine. Unfortunately the smallest size in that board is 146, which IMO, is a little too big for your specs. If you were dead set on going with the Hel Yes, then definitely 146.

      That fact that you mention that you’re catching edges on your current board, I would be concerned about the feelgood camber. Full camber boards tend to make it more likely to catch an edge. It’s a very stable board, so you will definitely get good stability there, but it’s a board that prefers to be ridden fast. If you like to ride slow sometimes, it’s less suitable for that, IMO.

      Definitely plenty of options that would be a step up from what you have, but without being too big a leap. But if I’ve understood wrong and you are at an advanced level, then let me know. If you could also let me know the size of your current board and your boot size, that would be great.

      Hope this helps.

      Reply

43. Summer says

    September 17, 2021 at 9:50 am

    Hi Jamie,
    I’m riding a Women’s Burton Troop (2010 or 2011) board with Salomon Ivy Boa boots and have been very happy with them. I’m looking for new equipment and will be at Big Sky this year. I’m an advanced border but in my 40s so I don’t plan to be in the park. I like steep runs, some trees and getting off the groomed runs, as well as the occasional jump. I had a variety of used boards 15 yrs ago but haven’t tried anything new since getting the Troop board in 2010. What do you recommend?

    Reply

    • Summer says

      September 17, 2021 at 9:51 am

      I should have said that I’m about 5’8″ and 135lbs, with a size 9 women’s boot.

      Reply

      • Nate says

        September 17, 2021 at 12:08 pm

        Hi Summer

        Thanks for your message.

        I would look at the following:

        – Arbor Veda 150
        – Burton Story Board 147
        – Capita the Equalizer 150
        – GNU Barrett 149
        – Jones Dream Catcher 151
        – Jones Twin Sister 149
        – Lib Tech Dynamiss 149
        – YES Hel Yes 149

        I know that’s a lot of options, but plenty fit your needs. The likes of the Dream Catcher, Dynamiss & Equalizer are what I would call on the border of freeride and all-mountain, the Story Board, Barrett and Veda Freeride boards, but if you’re not really riding switch or freestyle, should work well.

        In terms of sizing, those are the sizes I recommend based on your specs and how you describe your riding, but given that you’ve been riding 15+ years, you may have your own personal preferences which you should consider as well. Like if you typically ride considerably shorter or longer than that, you might want to think about adjusting the sizing.

        Hope this helps

        Reply

44. donkeykong says

    September 16, 2021 at 7:16 pm

    Hi there! Thank you so much for the write up- I’ve been riding for 10+ years, most of it on a board that I got when I was a kid (K2 moment). Picked it out because of graphics but it’s served me well. I’m looking to upgrade my board to push me to the next level – currently ride mostly blues, occasionally go into the trees, and eat sh*t on a lot of bowls but I can’t get enough of them.
    I’ve dabbled in park but I’m looking for a stiffer board, still all-mountain and looking for something that does well on and off-piste. I wanted to improve my carving, and also do more free riding.

    I’m just under 168cm, 105lb, and wear size 6 boots. I was debating between the Hel Yes, Dream Catcher and Twin Sister. I really like the sound of the Hel Yes but my biggest concern was that it might be too advanced for me. Not to mention that I feel like all the boards I listed might be too wide for me.

    Would greatly appreciate any advice, much thanks in advance!

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    • Nate says

      September 17, 2021 at 11:41 am

      Hey Donkeykong!

      Thanks for your message.

      I don’t think the Hel Yes is outside your scope in terms of being too advanced, based on what you’re describing, but I do think there’s not really a suitable size for you in the Hel YES, unfortunately.

      In terms of width, with 6s, they are all quite wide, but you could size down the length a little to make up for that. Unfortunately wouldn’t be able to do that with the Hel Yes as the smallest size is 146. Looking at length alone, I think around 142 would be your sweet spot and I wouldn’t go longer than 143, unless you were only going to be riding powder and bombing the whole time. I think the Twin Sister in the 140 would work. It’s still wide for your boots, but it’s a little shorter, so that can help make up for the maneuverability lost in going too wide.

      The Dream Catcher is a board you can ride a little longer (it rides short for it’s length). So even though the 142 isn’t sizing down (IMO) it kind of is with that particular board. So I think you get away with that size in that board, even though it’s a little wide for you.

      Another option you could look at is the Capita Equalizer. It’s what I categorize as a freeride board, but it really borders all-mountain and freeride. The 142 could work for that board as it’s narrower.

      Or if you wanted to look at something more all-mountain-freestyle, then there’s the GNU Ladies Choice 139.5 (which is nice and narrow) or the Never Summer Proto Synthesis 139.

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply

45. Teresa Zhong says

    August 26, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    Hey Nate!

    Word on the street is that you’re the person to go to for a snowboard rec 😉

    I am in desperate need of help finding a new snowboard. Ya girl has been riding someone’s old beater board for the past like 4 years LOL I think my progress has legit stopped bc of that.

    I’m 5’1″ Approx. 135 lb.

    I’m looking at making Mammoth Mountain my home base but sometimes Big Bear (they don’t get the best snow.) Something that could be adequate in powder aka as long as its not complete shit in powder

    I want to get more into faster carving and some park stuff/jumps.

    Definitely looking into the Yes Hell Yes board, but lowkey not feeling the design too much lol
    Arbor is my go to brand for skateboards. But absolutely open to all brands

    Thank you!!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      August 27, 2021 at 11:03 am

      Hi Teresa

      Thanks for your message.

      You’re in the right place, IMO, looking at an all-mountain board, for what you’re describing.

      Size-wise, in general I would be looking at anything around 143-145, in terms of length. But if you can also let me know your boot size – that’s also an important part of sizing.

      If you can get past the graphics on the Hel Yes, I think it would def be a great option for what you’re describing. The 2022 model is a little different design, though not that different.

      The Swoon Camber would work too for sure. The biggest downside is in powder. The Swoon Rocker is better in power, but you do loose some pop and speed/carving performance.

      The Twin Sister would definitely work too. Probably in the 143, but once you let me know your boot size, I can take a closer look at the sizing. 146 for Hel YES, and 143 for Swoon Camber (144 if Swoon Rocker).

      Jones Dream Catcher and Salomon Wonder also worth looking at.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Teresa Zhong says

        September 10, 2021 at 11:50 am

        Hi Nate! So sorry for the late reply, never got a notification in my email. Anyways! My boot size is a Women’s 8.

        Thanks for all your help!

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        • Nate says

          September 11, 2021 at 2:41 pm

          Hi Teresa

          I think 146 for both Hel Yes and Twin Sister. Probably 147 if you went Arbor Swoon Camber. I’d be leaning Hel Yes or Twin Sister, just because you mentioned you wanted something that’s at least decent in powder. I wouldn’t say the Swoon Camber is terrible in powder, but it’s average at best.

          Reply

          • Teresa Zhong says

            September 17, 2021 at 4:16 pm

            Great! Thanks for all the advice

          • Nate says

            September 18, 2021 at 3:49 pm

            You’re very welcome Teresa. If you think of it at the time, let me know what you go with and how you get on once you’ve had a chance to get it out on snow.

          • teri says

            October 26, 2021 at 1:26 pm

            Hey Nate,

            Turns out Jones wont be in stock til Decemeber so I think Im going to go with the Arbor Swoon Rocker. Should I be getting the 148cm?

            Thank you!

          • Teresa Zhong says

            October 27, 2021 at 8:31 am

            Hi Nate!

            Not sure if my previous comment got submitted.

            The Jones board is going to be out of stock til December so I think I’m going to go with the Arbor Swoon Rocker. Can you recommend a size for me? Not sure if I should be getting the 144 or 148.

            Thank you!!

          • Nate says

            October 27, 2021 at 11:02 am

            Hi Teresa

            Got your other message too – just had to be moderated.

            It’s a tough call with sizing on the Swoon Rocker, but I think I’d be leaning 144. Just because I think the 148 is getting a bit big for your specs. The width probably looks a little small, based on waist width, but Arbor boards are typically wide at the inserts compared to the waist, so you shouldn’t have any issues width-wise. The 148 measures 251mm at the inserts (236mm waist), so the 144 is likely around 249mm at the inserts, which should be plenty wide enough for 8s.

46. Kara says

    May 23, 2021 at 6:59 pm

    Hi Nate –

    First of all, thanks for all of your help with these lists! I have been driving myself crazy looking at reviews, and trying to snag a 2021 board before the 2022 hit the market.

    I am a higher end intermediate rider. Have been riding on and off for 20 years (with a large gap until the last 3 seasons). I have been riding a crap rocker board, and really want to get back to a camber or hybrid camber. I’m tired of the instability at high speeds. Love to charge it, but also want to be nimble on the mountain.

    I am a true all mountain rider, love carves and groomers, but would like to elevate my riding to be more all-mountain with tree runs, mountain jumps, etc. I did those when younger, but finally after a few seasons feel confident enough to get back into it. You prob wont ever find me in park. I also want to progress into more switch riding.

    That being said, I would like a board that can elevate me more into expert riding. I currently have been looking at the Arbor Swoon Camber and The Never Summer Photosynthesis. I’m 5’7″, 130 lb. Been riding 150, but have realized I can prob drop down to 147-148. Size 7 boots, M bindings.

    Any ideas? Driving myself crazy with looking at boards. Considered the Capita Birds of a feather, but ride a lot of late season spring snow in PNW (majority of time has been March – May), so worried about edge hold so it’s out for me. Can sometimes see really hard packed snow and ice late in the day. Not as worried about Powder. I will get it, but don’t chase it enough to solely base my decisions on that.

    Hope you can help, your website is awesome!!!

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    • Nate says

      May 25, 2021 at 10:56 am

      Hi Kara

      Thanks for your message.

      Since powder isn’t a big priority, then I think the Swoon Camber and Proto Synthesis are both great options. The YES Hel Yes and Jones Twin Sister would also be solid choices. But if you’re looking predominantly camber, then the Swoon Camber and Proto Synthesis are more camber dominant than the Hel Yes and Twin Sister (though those two are still more camber than rocker). I think any of those 4 would treat you well for what you’re describing, but if you did want to go mostly camber, then the first 2 are the front runners.

      Size-wise, Yeah, I’d say around 147-148 is spot on. For the boards mentioned:

      Swoon Camber 147
      Proto Synthesis 148
      Twin Sister – debate between the 146 and 149, but probably leaning 146 for this one as it’s a little wider than the average board at that length
      Hel Yes – again between the 146 and 149 – I don’t think either would be wrong, but leaning more 149 for this one. It’s not as wide and by the description of your riding I’d be leaning 149, but 146 certainly still an option

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply

      • Kara says

        May 29, 2021 at 10:25 pm

        Hi Nate,

        I truly appreciate your response and help! Been searching everywhere for the Yes Hel Yes and the Twin Sister, but pretty much sold out in 2021 unfortunately.
        Looks like it’s between the Swoon or Protosynthesis (I had previously wanted the Hel Yes, but didn’t know if it would be too stiff).

        Appreciate your response and confirming I am in the right direction – you absolutely rock and have helped so many people!

        Best Wishes, looking forward to more of your content in the future.

        Kara

        Reply

        • Nate says

          May 31, 2021 at 10:47 am

          You’re very welcome Kara. Thanks for visiting the site. If you think of it at the time, let me know what you go with and how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get it out on snow.

          Reply

          • Kara says

            June 3, 2021 at 10:51 pm

            Hi Nate,

            Thanks again. I have decided to go with the NS Proto Synthesis because it seems with the hybrid, though small rocker, might be an easier transition since I am coming off a rocker currently to begin with.

            I really want the Arbor Swoon Camber as well, super tempted to buy both. Do you think there’s enough of a difference in the two boards to own both, or do you have a preference over one another? I’m just in love with both boards. My only concern on the Swoon was going strictly over to a camber, rather than partial hybrid.

            Thanks again for your help, I will for sure post an update once I get to take this in the snow next season!

            Kara

          • Nate says

            June 4, 2021 at 12:28 pm

            Hi Kara

            There is quite a lot of overlap with those 2 boards. I definitely wouldn’t say they’ll feel the same to ride at all. But for the purposes you’d ride both, they’re in a very similar category. Too close, IMO, to be in the same quiver. That doesn’t mean you can’t, but there wouldn’t be really particular conditions or anything like that, that you’d want to choose one over the other, IMO.

47. Katie says

    April 18, 2021 at 11:53 am

    Hi Nate:

    Just finished a weekend of spring riding out in Mammoth, and it’s got me thinking about upgrading my board.

    You helped me find the PERFECT first board a couple seasons ago: I’ve been riding on a Burton Yeasayer Flying V (152). It’s been perfect for the past 2.5 seasons as I progressed.

    But now I’m cruising blue-blacks, and I’m feeling like I could use something a little stiffer for more control on steeps, less chatter, and faster riding.

    Mammoth is my home mountain, so I ride mostly groomers – and powder when we can find it! I love tree runs when the snow is right, no park stuff. I’m 5’9”, 150 lbs, boots are women’s size 10.

    The Feelgood Flying V seems like the obvious step up, but should I consider anything else? Not looking for anything too aggressive, maybe the Jones Twin Sister?

    Thanks, Nate! Your advice is always SO helpful!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      April 20, 2021 at 10:02 am

      Hi Katie

      Thanks for your message. Glad to hear that the Yeasayer Flying V has treated you well and that you’re able to enjoy some spring riding!

      Yeah, the Feelgood Flying V makes sense, if you like the feel of that Flying V profile and don’t want too drastic a chance and want something that’s still playful and not too aggressive, but a little stiffer. The Feelgood Flying V fits that description really well. It’s a step up, but not too big a change. Size-wise, I would go 152 again.

      The Twin Sister is also definitely an option. It would present a bigger change, for sure, but would still definitely work. It will feel a little stiffer than the Feelgood Flying V (I would say around 5/10 flex for the Feelgood Flying V – versus around 6/10 for the Twin Sister – compared to around 4/10 for the Yeasayer Flying V) and is more camber dominant. Still not massively camber dominant – there’s still a bit of rocker in there and the 3D contour base also helps it to be more forgiving. Overall, I would say it’s a little more aggressive than the Feelgood Flying V, but I wouldn’t call aggressive. It’s one of those boards that’s right in the middle of aggressive and playful. Versus the Feelgood Flying V, which is on the more playful end of the scale. You get better edge hold in hard/icy conditions too, if you find you come across them regularly, but not a big concern if you don’t see them much, and if you haven’t had any issues in that regard with your Yeasayer Flying V.

      Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision

      Reply

      • Katie says

        April 20, 2021 at 12:55 pm

        Thanks so much, Nate!

        I also found your full review of the Jones Dream Catcher, which sounds like it might be closer to what I’m used to and a little more in line with my riding style than the Twin Sister. Do you think that might be a logical step up from the Yeasayer? Better edge hold and a little more stability, but still fun to whip through trees? And size-wise, it looks like you’re recommending people size up a little on that board – would you think 154 rather than 151, if I go that route?

        Thank you! I SO SO appreciate your advice!!

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        • Nate says

          April 21, 2021 at 11:01 am

          Hi Katie

          Yeah if you go Dream Catcher, I think the 154 would be the best bet.

          To note that the Twin Sister changed for the 2021 model – and it’s now a more maneuverable board than the 2020 and earlier models. I would say it’s become even more maneuverable than the Dream Catcher now. That’s based on the 2021 Mountain Twin (men’s equivalent of the Twin Sister) as I haven’t had anyone test the 2021 Twin Sister. But yeah both would be good step ups from the Yeasayer. But just wanted to point that out about the 2021 model of the Twin Sister, as it underwent a few changes.

          Reply

48. Erin says

    March 20, 2021 at 12:20 am

    Hi there

    I just bought the Capita Equalizer size 150 but I am not sure it’s the right choice and also may be too big! I am 5’4, 128 lbs, size 7.5 boot. My board is 12 years old and a size 154. I am an intermediate advanced rider. I like playing in the trees and riding powder (who doesn’t!). I like to off piste and groomers, never go into the park. I don’t go crazy fast but I think that’s because my board can’t handle speed and so I want a board that is more stable at speed (but also fun going playfully through trees and is still fun at slower spped). Should I stick with the Equalizer but should I exchange it for a 146? Also do you have an opinion on Flux bindings? Thank you so much!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      March 20, 2021 at 2:36 pm

      Hi Erin

      Thanks for your message.

      I think the Equalizer is a great choice for what you’re describing, but I think 146 is the better size for you. I think that’s about the perfect size for you. Since you’re used to a 154, the 150 is definitely doable though. If you were coming from a smaller size, I would say 100% 146, but since you’re used to riding longer, I don’t think the 150 is wrong, but purely for your specs, I think the 146 is the best match.

      The 150 will be more stable at speed and float better in powder, but the 146 will be more maneuverable in tighter spots (better for trees) and for your specs would still be fine in terms of speed and powder float, IMO.

      I really like Flux bindings. Really good response, great ankle support, great adjustability, comfortable and all round well built. The biggest downside of them is less shock absorption than most bindings. If you can get past that, they are awesome bindings. The Flux GS I think would be the best match to the Equalizer and what you’re describing. But if you wanted to go a little stiffer and wanted to drive the board a little harder, the GX would certainly work too.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Erin says

        March 21, 2021 at 8:26 am

        Thanks so much Nate! Really appreciate you taking the time to respond! I am going with the Equalizer 146 and Flus GS. I can’t wait to hit the slopes!

        Reply

        • Nate says

          March 22, 2021 at 3:00 pm

          You’re very welcome Erin. Happy riding!

          Reply

49. Elaine Tam says

    March 17, 2021 at 11:10 pm

    Hi Nate,

    Really enjoy reading your reviews, it has helped both myself and my friends in figuring out what boards are good for us. I’m looking to buy a new board as I’m looking to go out west next year to do more powder runs. I live out east in Toronto so the runs are usually more groomed and icy.

    I’m 37, 5’5, usually between 155-165 pounds, and currently I ride a Never Summer Men Cobra 153cm with the Union Legacy binding and I wear Size 7.5 men burton photon boots. The cobra board is about 7 years old so I’m looking for an all mountain board for more icy and hard snow condition that is also good for powder riding. I’m an intermediate rider. I don’t ride fast, hence I do a lot of turns when I ride to check the speed when I carve.

    I’m planning to use the Union Strata men medium binding with this new board. A couple of boards that I’m considering is there Yes Hel Yes 155cm (not sure if they go any longer), the Bataleon storm 156cm, and Bataleon thunder 153cm. Would really appreciate any other recommendation or whether you think the ones that I’m considering is a good fit for me 🙂 thank you for your help Nate!

    Reply

    • Nate says

      March 19, 2021 at 11:14 am

      Hi Elaine

      Thanks for your message.

      I think the Hel Yes would work really well. But I would be looking more at the 152 for that. For your specs, ability and how you describe your riding, I think that would be perfect size. I think going 155/156 is too long, taking everything into account.

      I don’t test Bataleon boards, so can’t say much about them not having had any experience with them. Length-wise I think the 152 Thunder could work, but I think it’s a bit wide for your boots. The 152 (rather than 156) Storm looks like a good option on paper. I don’t know how well Bateleon ride in icy conditions though, as I haven’t ridden any.

      In terms of bindings, the Legacy is pretty close to the Strata and is likely a better size. Women’s bindings are made with women’s calves in mind, so I would stick to the Legacy (if you feel the need to upgrade you could get the newer Legacy or another option). As well as that, the Strata has quite a long baseplate and even in the medium, could be too long for the width of the boards. Also according to Union’s sizing, a Men’s US7.5 would be a better match to the Small Union Strata. I haven’t tested boots that size in the medium, so I don’t know if it would be a good fit or not, so in this case I would go with the recommendations. So if you are set on going Strata, then I’d go Small rather than medium. But I would recommend going Legacy over Strata in your case.

      Some other options, if you weren’t doing any freestyle stuff and not really riding switch:

      – Never Summer Lady West
      – GNU Barrett
      – Lib Tech Dynamiss
      – Jones Dream Catcher

      But I think the Hel Yes would be a really good option for what you’re describing.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Elaine Tam says

        March 19, 2021 at 4:26 pm

        Thanks Nate for your recommendation. This is extremely helpful. I was wondering if you think the Hel Yes in 149cm is better or the 152cm. I found a couple of stores that has one size or the other 🙂

        Also, what would be an upgrade to the Legacy that would fit the Hel Yes board?

        Hope you have a great day!

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        • Nate says

          March 20, 2021 at 2:18 pm

          Hi Elaine

          I think the 152 is probably the best size, but 149 is doable. It’s on the shorter side for you, but in a reasonable range. I’d usually say 149 if you were riding more freestyle, but it’s still doable, particularly as you don’t ride that fast. It would be a bit more to get used to, given that your used to a 153.

          Between the 152 and 149 Hel Yes, I would say:

          – The 152 will be more stable at speed, float better in better and feel a little stiffer than the 149
          – The 149 will be more maneuverable at slow speeds and for short/sharp turns, better for buttering and freestyle in general and feel a little more playful/softer flexing relative to the 152

          Will answer your binding question in reply to your other comment.

          Reply

      • Elaine Tam says

        March 19, 2021 at 5:22 pm

        Hi Nate – Sorry, one last question, for bindings, I would probably buy something new. Which women binding would you recommend then? I want to correct myself that currently I’m riding a Union Trilogy and not Legacy. So I’m opened to getting any brand of binding that would fit my riding style and Yes Hel Yes board 🙂 Thanks again for your help.

        Elaine

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        • Nate says

          March 20, 2021 at 2:21 pm

          Hi Elaine

          If you’re on the Trilogy, then the Legacy, IMO, is an upgrade, and would be a good match to the Hel Yes. The main difference between the Trilogy and Legacy, IMO, is that the Legacy has better board feel and more of a springy/sharper turn feel. The Trilogy is a smoother feel and less board feel. If you’re not really riding freestyle then board feel isn’t as big a deal, but I would still say the Legacy is a step up from the Trilogy overall.

          The Burton Lexa (or even Lexa X if you wanted to go a little stiffer in your bindings) would also be a great match, IMO

          Reply

          • Elaine Tam says

            March 22, 2021 at 3:20 pm

            Thank you Nate for all your help!!

          • Nate says

            March 22, 2021 at 6:28 pm

            You’re very welcome Elaine. Happy riding!

50. Amber S says

    February 23, 2021 at 11:48 am

    Hi Nate!

    I haven’t bought a new snowboard in 11 years and it was a Burton Avenue 139. I am 5’3″, 125 lb, size 7 boot. I live in Denver, but only get 3-8 days on my board these days. I’m a quick intermediate all-mountain rider and want a board for Colorado riding.

    My husband loves his Never Summer board. And I was recently recommended a Lib Tech Cortado. I’d love to get your take on a recommendation. Love your list, BTW (but I’m having a hard time with your top picks being sold out). TIA

    Reply

    • Nate says

      February 23, 2021 at 2:11 pm

      Hi Amber

      Thanks for your message.

      Firstly, I would go a little longer – somewhere in the range 142-144.

      If you’re not really riding switch, then something like the Cortado could work (I’d go 142 if you went for that one). Some other freeride options (more directional), so again if you’re not really riding switch:

      – Lib Tech Dynamiss 142
      – Never Summer Lady West 144 – a little stiffer, but still not oppressively stiff
      – Burton Story Board
      – GNU Barrett
      – Jones Dream Catcher
      – Capita The Equalizer
      – GNU Klassy

      I would check those out. If you do like to ride switch a bit, then an all-mountain option would be better, IMO.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Amber S says

        February 23, 2021 at 2:51 pm

        Thanks so much for the quick reply!

        Reply

        • Nate says

          February 24, 2021 at 4:14 pm

          You’re very welcome Amber. Happy riding!

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      • Jenn says

        October 9, 2021 at 1:14 pm

        Hi Nate,

        I love reading all your reviews and threads. I have a binding question for you…

        I just picked up a 146 Yes Hel Yes and a 140 Korua Dart (for powder and deep groomer carves). I have size 6.5 K2 Contour boots. What binding and size would you recommend for each board?

        I’ve been looking at Union Legacy/Trilogy and Burton Lexa/Lexa X.

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        • Nate says

          October 9, 2021 at 2:19 pm

          Hi Jenn

          Thanks for your message.

          For the Dart since it’s stiffer (I believe – but don’t currently test Korua, so can’t say for sure) and because you’re looking to do deeper carves on it, I would be looking at the more responsive bindings – so I’d be leaning Lexa X for that. With the Trilogy a close second.

          For the Hel Yes, I would go Legacy as a first choice. Burton Lexa would definitely work too – and even Trilogy or Lexa X, but I think having the extra board feel of the Legacy over the Trilogy on the Hel Yes would be good to have.

          If you were going one binding for both, then I’d be leaning Lexa X, because I think it would work best on the Dart and still matches the Hel Yes as well, but if you’re getting one per board (which is ideal of course), then I’d go Legacy for Hel Yes and Lexa X on the Dart. Everything you’ve listed would work on either board to be fair – but those are the combos that would be most optimal, IMO.

          Hope this helps

          Reply

51. Victoria says

    February 16, 2021 at 10:32 am

    Hello Nate, I’m trying to decide on a new setup. 5’4″, 135 lb, size 6.5 boots that are on the bulky side (the length of the boot is 28cm). I do resort riding (moguls! people!) and love glades runs, so I want something maneuverable, but I also love speed. I also have a powder trip planned for next winter. No backcountry or park on the regular. Can you advise?

    The Hel Yes reviews are off the charts. Could I pull off the 149 (smallest I can find in stock)? I’m in the middle of the weight range, but your post on waist width suggests the board might be too wide. I ride +18/0. Would the 149 be too wide? What is the ideal waist width?

    If I get the Hel Yes, is the Union Trilogy is a good match? Also looking at Legacy, but it is in low stock everywhere.

    Other options I’m considering because the waist is smaller: Capita Equalizer 146, Never Summer Aura 150 (146 also an option but I am over the suggested weight). How would you weigh these 3 options? All their shapes are different and I’m not sure how to evaluate CRC (Aura) vs RCR (Hel Yes, Equalizer-ish – that has a bit of flat).

    Thanks in advance and thank you for your hard work on this site! It’s been invaluable.

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    • Nate says

      February 17, 2021 at 2:46 pm

      Hi Victoria

      Thanks for your message.

      If you were to go Hel Yes, I would go 146 for your specs for sure. I think the 149 isn’t super long for you, but on the long side. Doable length alone, but add the width to it and I think it’s overall too big.

      Ideally with 6.5s you’d want something less than 234mm waist width-wise. That’s a rough estimate because the width at inserts differs compared to the waist depending on the board. Taking into account your boots are bulky, you probably don’t want to go too narrow, so something 230-236 is probably the way to go. It’s your foot size, rather than the length of the boot that is the main factor in creating leverage on the edges. Sizing down a little bit is a good way to compensate for a board being too wide. I would say your all-mountain size is around 147cm, so if you go with something wider, then preferably you’d size down a little from that. Especially if you want something maneuverable.

      For the Aura I wouldn’t be too worried about the suggested weight. I think the 146 for the Aura would be the best size for you. You could possibly do 148, but 150 too big for the Aura for you, IMO.

      Equalizer sounds like a good option for what you’re describing too and I think the 146 is a good size for you.

      Between the Hybrid Rocker (CRC) and Hybrid Camber (RCR), typically Hybrid Rocker feels a little on the looser side and Hybrid Camber a bit more stable. But it depends on how much rocker is involved and how much camber is involved. A Hybrid Rocker with a lot of camber and very little rocker can feel very stable or even semi-locked in. And a Hybrid Camber can feel on the looser side if there’s very little camber and a lot of rocker. The “Ripsaw Rocker” profile on the Aura is quite stable feeling, but probably just on the looser side compared to the Hel Yes and Equalizer.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Victoria says

        February 17, 2021 at 11:19 pm

        Yes, it’s very helpful. I’m leaning towards the Capita Equalizer because it has the longest effective edge of the three for carving. Are there any cons with the Equalizer? Reviews I’ve read make it sound good for everything: powder, trees, groomers.

        Oh, of the three, how would you rank them for going slow on flats or going slow when navigating resort traffic? I’ve read some reviews on TheGoodRide suggesting that certain boards aren’t great at slow speeds? What contributes to that?

        Last thing about bindings – any thoughts on the Union Trilogy/Legacy vs Burton Escapades/Lexas for these boards?

        Thanks so much.

        Reply

        • Nate says

          February 18, 2021 at 3:31 pm

          Hi Victoria

          No glaring cons to the Equalizer. I would say it’s not ideal riding switch, but doable – and not amazing in the park for the likes of boxes/rails. But still fine for jumps. And decently buttery, without being ultra buttery. It’s not something that’s amazing in any one category, but certainly above average for carving, speed, trees and powder. I’d say the Equalizer probably the best for riding slow, followed by the Hel Yes, then the Aura, but all not that far apart.

          A few things can contribute to a board not being great to ride at slow speeds – and bindings and boots can also contribute to how well your setup rides at slow speeds too. The main factor, IMO, is flex. Really stiff boards tend to be harder to ride slow – just a lot of effort to get them to turn when riding slow. Stiff boards also tend to be more stable at speed – so stiffer boards, in my experience, really come to life when riding fast and can actually become quite quick edge to edge when riding fast, but when you slow them down, they tend not to turn as easily as softer flexing boards. Other things, like width, sidecut, effective edge to contact length ratio and sizing all play a part too.

          I would probably be leaning Legacy or Lexa for the Equalizer or any of these boards really, especially the Aura, which is a little stiffer. The Trilogy and Escapade would definitely work on the Equalizer though. There’s not really a wrong choice out of those for the Equalizer, but if I had to choose I’d be leaning Legacy/Lexa.

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52. Sally says

    February 16, 2021 at 10:17 am

    Hi Nate,

    I am looking to purchase a new snowboard (women) and really appreciate your reviews! I am currently riding an old Santa Cruz board (purchased when I was 16) and am interested in the Yes Hel Yes or Jones Twin Sister for the medium flex and all mountain abilities.

    I am 31 years old, 5’6″, 135 lbs, and wear a size 9/9.5 boot. I have been snowboarding for about 16 years but these days, I ride about 4-10 days a year (downside of living on the East Coast). I would say I’m an intermediate/advanced rider, as I love a black diamond groomer but haven’t yet mastered moguls or switch-riding. I often ride in different mountains with various snow conditions–Tahoe, Colorado, and West Virginia.

    I’d be curious for your input on the Yes versus Jones, or any other suggestions. I also plan to get new bindings so any thoughts on those would be great!

    Thanks!

    Sally

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    • Nate says

      February 17, 2021 at 2:30 pm

      Hi Sally

      Thanks for your message.

      Both boards are very good across various conditions. I’d say Hel Yes a little better in icy conditions but Twin Sister still good there.

      Size-wise, I’d say around 148 in general, so it’s between the 146 and 149 for the Hel Yes and Twin Sister. For the Hel Yes, I’d probably be leaning 149 as the width is better for your boots. For the Twin Sister, either should be good width-wise.

      For bindings, I would check out the following:

      >>Top Women’s All-Mountain Bindings

      Hope this helps

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53. Carrie says

    February 16, 2021 at 6:36 am

    Hi Nate,
    Thanks for all your really great insight and advice. I have been riding a for a few years now. I started on a 154 Burton Amplifier that my husband had bought for his son a while back. Once I had the basics down I bought a 153 Frenemy which was the perfect transition board. This year I started riding the 149 Feelgood which I am loving. I recently bought last year’s 152 Storyboard but haven’t tried it out yet. I ride more free ride, no park or jumps. I just like to cruise down the mountain and am starting to get more comfortable at higher speeds. I am considering adding to my quiver and think the Hel Yes might fit the bill. I ride out east mostly. My local shop has the 152 left in stock but I’m not sure if I should size up to the 155. I am 5’8″, 160lbs, and wear a size 9 boot. Any other thoughts on boards that I should consider adding to my quiver?

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    • Nate says

      February 17, 2021 at 1:03 pm

      Hi Carrie

      Thanks for your message.

      I think the 152 would be the best size for you for the Hel Yes. The 155 certainly not out of range, and if you wanted it to be your longer freeride board, it’s an option for sure. But I would be leaning 152. Both would work fine width-wise, IMO.

      Hope this helps

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54. Susan says

    January 31, 2021 at 11:10 pm

    Hey Nate –

    Thanks for all your great advice. This thread has been going for a long time and I’m glad you’re still taking questions. I am about to upgrade my board and am considering a 2020 Rossi Frenemy that I found at one of my local shops.

    Background: I started snowboarding two years ago because I earned free tickets to Mt Hood Meadows. Bought a woman’s 2005 Burton FeelGood on Marketplace for $75. Obviously didn’t know what that was.

    Fast forward to now, I’ve been pushing pretty hard on this thing and am proud to say that I have progressed to being an intermediate rider. That said, I still feel like my progress has been slower than others due to the aggressive nature of this board and because of the jenky step in bindings it came with (please don’t laugh!).

    Obviously I’m eyeing the new Burton step-ins. But that’s another conversation.

    Details: I am 31 years old, 117lbs, 5′ 3 and 1/2″ size 7.5 boots and am currently on a 149cm. Based on all your responses to other people I am afraid you are going to tell me that everything I’m looking at is too big for me! Anyway, I ride frequently and in all conditions, aspire to ride switch, and currently want a one-board-quiver.

    After doing some research, I decided to order a 151cm 2019 Rome SDS Reverb Rocker, which is a camber/rocker/camber and a true twin. However, when I called the store to make the order they asked why I was looking at men’s equipment (you can laugh now!) Since learning that boards NOT labeled as “women’s” are gender specific, I am back to the drawing board, which is what ultimately led me to your article.

    Based on everything you’ve said, I think the Frenemy will be a good option for me. I’ve been working really hard on the FeelGood and not feeling so good, and I want to have more fun on the mountain. I also took it as a sign that the Frenemy was available in 147 at my local shop. And the price is hard to beat (270!?)

    That said, I must confess that I was really excited about the Reverb Rocker and I’m wondering if you can give me a better sense comparison between these two options or maybe refer me to something similar. The RR is at the far end of my size range and has a completely different camber, but it stood out to me as a solid board that would give me a lot of growth potential.

    I have no doubt that the Frenemy will feel amazing after what I’ve been riding, but I’m also wondering if the Reverb Rocker might be a better challenge long term.

    Please let me know what you think!

    Susan

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    • Nate says

      February 1, 2021 at 1:07 pm

      Hi Susan

      Thanks for your message.

      You are right, I am going to say that size-wise, I would err shorter for your specs. More like 141-143 ideally. But given that you’re used to riding a 149 and quite an aggressive 149 at that, you would probably fine going a little longer. I think the Frenemy would be a really good option from what you’re describing, but ideally the 144. Given what you’re used to riding, the 147 Frenemy will still feel a lot more easy going, so it’s doable for you, though typically I would say it’s too long.

      Definitely wouldn’t go as long as the 151 Reverb Rocker though or that long for anything. The other thing with going for the Reverb Rocker 151 is that it’s going to be way too wide for your boots too. Width is also very important. The 151 Reverb Rocker would be a lot of hard work for you, IMO.

      I don’t test Rome gear, so I couldn’t say what’s similar. But if you’re looking for something with a hybrid rocker profile (camber/rocker/camber), then there are certainly plenty of options around with those specs.

      If you’re looking all-mountain, then the likes of the NS Infinity is a good option. You could also look at all-mountain-freestyle boards too. Particularly if you don’t see a lot of powder or if you don’t tend to ride in deep powder. If you do then sticking to something more all-mountain probably a good idea. But if you’re interested in all-mountain-freestyle, also checkout:

      >>My Top 5 Women’s All-Mountain Freestyle Snowboards

      And this one might be worth a look at too:

      >>Top 10 Women’s Intermediate Snowboards

      Hope this helps

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      • Susan Randolph says

        February 4, 2021 at 1:12 pm

        Hey Nate, thank you for this very thorough response! I checked out your other lists and saw several other boards I have been looking at. You’re totally right, the Reverb Rocker is going to be way too wide for me! I compared the specs and looks like it’s almost 9mm wider than the Frenemy!! The good news is that the 147 Frenemy is exactly the same width as my current board, so I decided to go for it. I do tend to ride a lot in powder so I think sticking with all mountain is the right choice. I’m shopping for boots tomorrow and am hoping to get out in the snow this weekend. Thanks for all your great advice!

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        • Nate says

          February 5, 2021 at 2:05 pm

          You’re very welcome Susan. If you think of it at the time, let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get the Frenemy out on snow. Happy riding!

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55. Jenn says

    January 25, 2021 at 10:44 am

    Hi Nate!

    I’m in a similar boat to a commenter below who’s looking to upgrade their Frenemy. On your snowboarding levels spectrum, I’m a level 5, borderline 6. I’m mostly looking for something a little faster. I mostly ride groomers with occasional powder days, some trees, and infrequent icy terrain, though I want to start riding switch and playing with natural features, ollies, buttering, etc. I have no interest in the park.

    5’3″, 128lb, size 6.5 boots

    I was looking at the Hel Yes, but it looks like most women’s YES boards are sold out now. I’m scouring the used market and found these options:
    – Jones Dream Catcher 148: seems long for me and the waist width is 240
    – Jones Women’s Flagship 144: waist 237. An older model. I think 2017
    – Nitro Drop 146: directional so maybe not ideal, but it has a narrower waist at 235

    What are your thoughts on these, especially the Nitro? I’m also open to new if there’s a board that sounds like a slam dunk for me.

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    • Nate says

      January 25, 2021 at 5:02 pm

      Hi Jenn

      Thanks for your message.

      Dream Catcher 148, I think is too big overall, especially when taking into account length and width.

      The size of the Flagship is certainly a better fit, but it is quite a stiff board and quite directional also. Wouldn’t be that well suited to switch, ollies, buttering etc. Otherwise would work, but not great for those things.

      I don’t know the Nitro Drop well, but I think that size would be doable. On paper it could work, but like you mention it’s quite directional, so won’t be the best for riding switch and freestyle stuff in general. It might be a little easier to butter than the Flagship as it looks like it’s not as stiff. Out of those I would be more inclined to the Nitro Drop, but not perfectly suited to what you’re describing.

      I think something like the Dream Catcher in the 145 or if you were happy to sacrifice a little in terms of powder for more freestyle ability (but still good on groomers):

      – Lib Tech No.43 146
      – GNU Ladies Choice 145.5 (not as wide as it looks based on waist width. Still a little wide for you, but certainly not as wide as the Dream Catcher 148)
      – Never Summer Women’s Proto Synthesis 145
      – Jones Twin Sister 143 (it’s wide for you, but going shorter would make bring back some of the maneuverability lost for being wider)

      Hope this helps

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      • Jenn says

        January 29, 2021 at 4:54 pm

        Hi Nate,

        I thought I responded, and now I’m not sure if I did since I know you have to approve posts. Anyway, if not: thanks for your help! I’m intrigued by the asym boards. What do you think about last year’s Never Summer Women’s Proto Two in a 142 (all I could find)? My stance width is ~18″ so I thought it might be more appropriate too. Its range is 16.5 – 22″ vs 18-22.5″ for the 145 (2020).

        I’m also considering a GNU Ladies Choice, 2017, 142.5cm. Is that too short? Even worse for powder? And what do you think about buying older boards like 2017 boards? Could the material degrade enough or the tech change enough in that time that it’s not worth the savings?

        Thanks again.

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        • Nate says

          January 30, 2021 at 2:02 pm

          Hi Jenn

          Ladies Choice a little better in powder than the PT2, IMO, so as far as asym boards go, it’s one of the better in powder. And should be fine if you don’t see powder that often or if it’s not typically that deep.

          2017 for the Ladies Choice, the main change since then for that board, is that it changed to a C2X camber profile from C2. Which basically means a little more camber in the C2X version and a little less rocker. So it was a little less camber dominant in the 2017 model. I think it changed to C2X for the 2018 model. I think in general, going back to 2017 is OK depending on the board. In this case, it depends if you’re OK with the different camber profile.

          In terms of size, I don’t think 142.5 is wrong for you for the Ladies Choice. Both 142.5 and 145.5 will work, but will have different personalities. Some things to consider:

          – The 142.5 won’t be as good for float in powder as the 145.5 and won’t feel as stable when riding fast
          – The 142.5 will be easier for ollies, buttering and be more maneuverable at slower speeds and therefore better for tight spaces

          The 142.5 is also better a better fit for your boot size.

          Same differences between the 142 and 145 PT2. And again, both sizes work for your specs, just with subtly different strengths and weaknesses.

          Also, the smaller versions will feel a little softer flexing than their longer counterparts.

          So long as you can fit your stance width on the board, I wouldn’t necessarily choose the size based on that. But if that’s a tie breaker, then that’s another plus for the smaller size if you were to go PT2. But I before I chose based on that, I would look at whether you think you’d prefer a little longer for better powder float and stability at speed or the shorter length for better maneuverability/butterability.

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56. Emilee V says

    January 22, 2021 at 11:51 am

    Hello! I started riding last season and got a few days in before COVID shut everything down. This season, I have about 10 days in so far and am confidently connecting turns and riding blues in Utah. I’m looking forward to riding powder days, but this season has had some pretty hard snow so far. I’m interested in riding switch and mostly just cruising down the mountain and playing in powder. Not sure what else I’ll feel drawn to as I progress.

    I’ve been borrowing an older (2013?) Burton Feather 144 and after reading a lot of reviews, just found and purchased a new Rossignol Frenemy 147 that was on sale. I’m 5’6 and 126 lbs, my snowboard boots are size US 7.5. My question is – should I continue to learn a bit more on the board I started with (Burton Feather 144) and wait until later in the season to hop on the new board or would I be better off getting on it right away? Also I guess I’m looking for validation that the frenemy `147 is a good size for me to have for the next few years.

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    • Nate says

      January 23, 2021 at 11:24 am

      Hi Emilee

      Thanks for your message.

      I would say the 147 is at the upper end of your range size-wise and more of a size for you as a more advanced rider. So I would probably continue to progress on the 144 Feather for now. However, if you wanted to give the Frenemy a go and see how you get on, you could. If you feel comfortable riding it, that’s great. But if you feel you’re struggling with it, I would go back to the Feather until you’ve progressed a bit more, rather than trying to force yourself to stick with it.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

57. Elisabeth says

    January 5, 2021 at 10:05 pm

    Hey Nate,

    I’m an advanced rider, been riding since I was 13 and I’m 32 now. My snowboard is a very old brand, I don’t think they even sell it anymore, but it’s still in good shape and I use it all the time. Last year I went to Vermont and tested out some new boards and it made me want one. I’m 5’3 and 125lbs…my board is 152, which I’m told is kind of big for my height? I ride with an aggressive stance. I’m looking for a board that’s mostly great with carving and ripping the trail, but would also be good on jumps/rails if I chose to do so. What do you suggest?

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    • Nate says

      January 6, 2021 at 2:04 pm

      Hi Elisabeth

      Thanks for your message.

      Yeah it’s quite big for your specs overall. More so to do with weight than height these days. I would have you on around a 145/146, but given that you like to ride quite aggressively and since you’re used to a longer board for such a long time, I probably wouldn’t opt to go that much shorter, unless you think you would prefer shorter – or if you rode shorter boards when you were testing boards out and liked them. Otherwise, I would size down a little from 152, but maybe more in the range 148-150.

      In terms of the board, I think you’re in the right place here with all-mountain boards. If you don’t really ride powder or not much, then you could also look at all-mountain-freestyle. From this list, I would be leaning towards YES Hel Yes and Jones Twin Sister, not just because they’re on the top of the list here, but because they strike a good balance in term of being good for carving/speed, but also good for jumps/rails. If you wanted to sacrifice a little on rails for more carving/speed, then the Burton Feelgood or Arbor Swoon Camber also come into play.

      You could also check out the following, if you don’t really see powder much or don’t tend to ride in powder:

      >>My Top 5 Women’s All-Mountain Freestyle Snowboards

      Pay attention to the score breakdowns to see what might suit you best.

      Hope this helps

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58. Gabriela says

    January 5, 2021 at 9:31 am

    Hi,
    I am an advanced rider that lives on the East Coast so mostly doing groomed and icier runs but loves backcountry and tree runs. I do once a year go out West so want something that can also handle some backcountry power if needed. I currently ride an Ride snowboard (forget what model), 154 length and am 5’6″ 155lbs, size 10 shoe. I find this board less responsive than I would like so am looking to upgrade. I keep coming across the Yes Hel Yes, Ride WarPig, Gnu Essential Service and Jones Twin Sister. Any advice on differentiating between those 4? Thanks for the help

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    • Nate says

      January 5, 2021 at 3:04 pm

      Hi Gabriela

      Thanks for your message.

      First thing I would do is size down a little. Particularly when it comes to trees, but even just on icy groomers, I think you’ll appreciate a slightly shorter board. For your specs, I would be looking at something 149-151, maybe 152, if you really want more stability at speed and float in powder, but I think as a balance between everything that 149-151 range would work best, IMO. Which for me puts the Essential Service out, given the shortest size is 155.

      – YES Hel Yes 149 (or 152) would be a really good option, IMO, only concern is width. Depending on your brand of boots and your binding angles, I think you could get away with it width-wise. If you ride with a flat back foot (like a binding angle of 0 or 3 or something like that) and have bulky boots, then it might be little narrow. But with more angle on your bindings and/or lower profile boots, it’s a width you could get away with and would make a really good option, IMO.

      – Jones Twin Sister 149 (or 152). Another really good option, IMO. And I don’t think you’d have any width issues. This board is quite wide at the inserts compared to the waist width, particularly if you’re riding it at it’s reference stance. But even if you ride at a narrower stance, the width should be all good, IMO.

      – Not sure there’s a good size for the Warpig. The 148 is going to be way to wide at that length, IMO. The 142 would be your best option, IMO, but not sure you want to go that short? Also in my experience I didn’t find it to have great edge hold in hard/icy conditions. Not with Ride boards in general. Not terrible either by any means, but the Twin Sister and Hel Yes better in those types of conditions, IMO.

      Hope this helps

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      • Gabriela Poles says

        January 10, 2021 at 10:23 am

        thanks for the help, this is great. I was leaning towards the Jones Twin Sister and I think this seals the deal. Looking forward to trying the new board out!

        Reply

        • Nate says

          January 11, 2021 at 4:38 pm

          You’re very welcome Gabriela. If you think of it at the time, let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get it out on snow. Happy riding!

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59. Elena says

    November 24, 2020 at 3:52 am

    Hi Nate! Thanks a lot for your help with my setup. So, my friend ask me to write you some questions too 🙂 She is intermediate rider who prefer all-mountain riding and freeride. This season she she want to change her board (Rossignol Frenemy) for something more stiff. What can you say about Nidecker Princess? Will it be OK or too much for intermediate rider?
    And what board can you reccomend?
    Thank you.

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    • Nate says

      November 24, 2020 at 12:35 pm

      Hi Elena

      Good to hear from you again.

      I don’t currently test Nidecker gear, so I can’t say anything from firsthand experience. On paper it looks like it’s a good option for how she likes to ride – certainly a freeride board. Because I’m not familiar with Nidecker I couldn’t say how it would feel in terms of flex, but from a little research it certainly looks like it would be stiffer than the Frenemy and overall quite an aggressive board from what I’ve read. Probably not ideal for an intermediate rider. Some good options that are freeride oriented, but an easier going ride (from what I can tell) than the Princess:

      – Lib Tech Dynamiss
      – Jones Dream Catcher
      – Capita The Equalizer
      – GNU Klassy

      All a little more advanced and more freeride oriented than the Frenemy, but not too big a step in terms of ability and more suitable for an intermediate rider, IMO, than how the Princess looks to be on paper.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Elena says

        November 26, 2020 at 4:45 am

        Hi Nate! Yes, that’s really helps. My friend decide to go with Capita The Equalizer 🙂

        Reply

        • Nate says

          November 26, 2020 at 1:10 pm

          Hi Elena.

          Hope you both have an awesome season!

          Reply

          • Elena says

            November 30, 2020 at 4:18 am

            Thanks a lot! Hope you will have a great season too 🙂🏂

60. Isabel says

    October 13, 2020 at 7:18 am

    Hi Nate,

    I am currently riding a Gnu B Nice 142.5 with Union Rosa bindings and size 6 Ride Sage boots. I am 5’3″ and about 120 lbs and I’ve been riding this setup for 2 seasons. I was looking at the Yes Hel Yes at the end of last season but was hesitant due to the smallest size being a 146 and decided to wait. This year Yes has the Hello which I noticed is like a softer version of the Hel Yes. I was thinking that I could get the Hel Yes for better carving, higher speeds, and for those occasional powder days here in NH. I was also thinking of getting a new set of Union Trilogy bindings to go with the new board. Do you think the Hello might be a better option since its a softer board at that larger size? If I were to get one of these boards do you think the B Nice could become a like park board for me? Also I’m slightly clueless 😅 which one do you think would perform better in the trees, the B Nice or one of the Yes boards? Thanks for all your help.

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    • Nate says

      October 13, 2020 at 11:09 am

      Hi Isabel

      Thanks for your message.

      146 is on the longer side for you, IMO. Doable, but I’d prefer to see you on something closer to 143, 144. Going with the Hello over the Hel Yes, would make it easier to manage for sure, so if you do go for one of those in a 146, I think that’s probably the best option.

      The Trilogy would be a great match for the Hello, IMO.

      The B Nice would make a really good park board option in that quiver, IMO.

      In trees, the Hello and Hel Yes would go better in trees when there’s lots of powder in there, IMO. Without much powder, I’d say fairly similar length-for-length, but the B-Nice potentially a little better, just because it’s shorter.

      Hope this helps

      Reply

      • Isabel says

        October 13, 2020 at 12:19 pm

        Hi Nate,

        Thanks for the response as it really does help a lot. I ultimately agree with you on size. I guess I was hoping I might be able to get away with it since I was a fan of the Hel Yes, but I’m sure I can find a board that’s literally a better fit for me, lol. Thanks for the insight on the bindings, potential 2 board quiver, and performance in the trees as well. It looks like I’ll need to do some more shopping around. I’ve had a good look through your site, but I know not all the boards are necessarily similar to each other. Would you be willing to point me in the direction to some comparable options that I could look further into?

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        • Nate says

          October 14, 2020 at 10:26 am

          Hi Isabel

          Some comparable options:

          – Jones Twin Sister 143
          – Jones Dream Catcher 145 (this is a board you can ride a little longer – i.e. it feels smaller than the overall length suggests – you could go
          – Salomon Rumble Fish 144 (not quite as good in powder as the 2 above, but still OK, and if you don’t see it that much, should be fine)
          – Rossignol Frenemy 144

          I’ve chosen these as boards with similar camber profiles and flex to the Hel Yes and Hello (and suitable for how you describe your riding). There are other options like:

          – GNU Ladies Choice
          – Lib Tech Dynamiss

          That would also work.

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61. Catherine Lessard says

    July 29, 2020 at 10:46 am

    Hi Nate,

    Thank you for such amazing review and information.

    I need your advice in choosing the right board lenght.

    I found a good deal (50 % off, yay for off season sales!) on Burton Feelgood and I am wondering if I should get a 146 or a 149.

    Stats:
    5’4, 127 lbs, size 8 boots

    Previous board that I owned:
    Burton freedom (back in the days, Victoria Jealouse’s pro board) 152 (was a bit long)

    Boards that I currently have :
    Burton Malolo 149 (year 2007, 50 cm setback) : love it for carving and riding powder, when there is some. The lenght feel good.

    Ride OMG 147 (year 2014) : I bought the board to be able to learn to ride switch and still be able to carve. The lenght feel good as well, yet sometime I wished it was maybe setback or maybe a bit longer ? Yet, it is easier to ollie then my Malolo (long nose!)

    Type of riding I do :
    Groomers, ride fast & carve mainly – I am an advanced rider for just riding along
    Trees riding
    I don’t go in the park or pipe
    I would like to keep learning to ride switch and learn to do butter, ollie higher, maybe do an 180 while riding off an ollie if i can.. As you can see, I want a fast board that can carve as it’s mainly what I do, but that can provide me with the opportunity for learning some new thing. But I have no interest in the park and I know that I will want to keep going fast and carve, thus do not want a too soft or short a board.

    I will get the Feelgood in either 146 or 149, but I also intend of getting the Hel Yes in either 146 or 149, if I can find a demo and try it before. I will probably sell my Ride OMG and keep my Malolo for pow.

    Will I notice a difference between the 146 or 149 Feelgood ? What about tight turns, medium and big radius turns ?
    (Intuitivly, I’m thinking the 149 will feel like my Malolo for carving, but the 146 will be easier to ollie. Yet, can the 146 still be fast and be stable, as it is stiff ?)

    What about the 146 or 149 Hel Yes ?

    Thank you very much for your recommendation and your advice !

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    • Nate says

      July 29, 2020 at 1:58 pm

      Hi Catherine

      Please see my response to your comment on the Burton Feelgood Review

      Reply

62. Amy says

    June 1, 2020 at 10:56 am

    Hi Nate,
    I have gone snowboarding maybe 10-15 times, and I have been using rental boards. I am now ready to buy a board. Since its off season I have found some pretty good deals on gear. I am looking to getting the arbor swoon, but I can’t decide whether to get the camber or rocker version. I want an all mountain board that will work in my conditions. I live in Southern California, and mostly ride Bear mountain, and at times go to Mammouth if I can. I am also looking at getting the union trilogy bindings. Will that be a good match with the arbor board? Also, what size board do you recomend, I am looking at a 144cm. I want this board to last, and I’m only 15 so I should still have a couple of years left to grow. For reference, I am 5’2”, about 115 lbs, and wear a size 7.5 boot. Thanks, anything will help.

    Reply

    • Nate says

      June 1, 2020 at 12:41 pm

      Hi Amy

      Thanks for your message.

      I would go for the rocker version, if I was you. Firstly, because I think it would be the better option for you in terms of skill level and because it’s probably better for the conditions you’ll ride in. But that’s assuming you want to take advantage powder when you get it. If you think you probably won’t venture off piste at all, and you think you’ll probably be a more aggressive rider (i.e. riding fast, doing big carves etc), then that would make me lean a little more towards the camber. But otherwise, I would go rocker for you.

      Size-wise, I think ideally you’d get the 140. But I definitely understand that it’s an investment getting a board and there’s often a lot of research involved, so I get the need to want something that will last you. I’m not a big fan of getting a board to “grow into” because it can slow/limit your progression, particularly if it’s way off. But in your case, given that you’ve still got growing to do, I get it and I think that’s doable. 144 is a little big for your specs right now, IMO, but it’s not way off. I think at around 5’4″/5′”5 and around 120lbs/125lbs, then it becomes a very good size.

      Width-wise, both the 140 and 144 would work fine, IMO.

      Hope this helps with your decision

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63. Sarah Walker says

    March 6, 2020 at 9:20 am

    Hi Nate!

    Thank you so much for your awesome website. I have been trying to decide between the Jones Dreamcatcher and Twin Sister, and finally chose the Dreamcatcher. My question concerns size. I am an intermediate rider 5’7″, 138pounds with an 8 boot size. I have been riding a Burton Feelgood 152 for the last 12 years. I usually rind on piste and like to carve. I don’t ride in parks or do any jumping, nor do I ride switch. I am pretty boring and just like to bomb downhill. Powder is my favorite, but have not gotten to ride in it much the last few years. I ride in the West and South West.

    I purchased the Dreamcatcher 151 as requested by the folks at Jones. I just received it and it is a lot wider than I expected. I am considering exchanging it for the 148. What do you think?

    Thanks so much for your help!

    Warm Regards,
    Sarah

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    • Nate says

      March 6, 2020 at 12:59 pm

      Hi Sarah

      Thanks for your message.

      Yeah the Dream Catcher is a little wider than normal (typical of a lot of Jones boards). And usually I would say something around 148, 149 for your specs, as an intermediate rider would be the way to go. But for a couple of reason’s I prefer the 151 for you for the Dream Catcher. Firstly, because you’re already used to a 152 – and secondly, the 152 you’re used to will have a lot more effective edge than the 151 Dream Catcher.

      But going shorter on a board that’s on the wide side is also a legit thing to do, so it’s a tough call. Usually I would say if you’re looking at 149 Mountain Twin, then go 151 Dream Catcher. And I think 149 Mountain Twin would be the way to go for you. I’m hesitant to say go down to 148 for the Dream Catcher though, especially as you’re used to the 152 Feelgood, and going down to 148 Dream Catcher would be a big drop in effective edge.

      In terms of width, just looking back at the specs of older Feelgood’s, it looks like there was a 240mm waist width on the 152. The Dream Catcher has a 242mm waist width. So in terms of waist it’s not that much wider. But in terms of width at inserts it’s a good bit wider. I would estimate the Feelgood 152’s width at inserts is likely no more than 250mm. The Dream Catcher 151 on the other hand is 255mm at the tail insert and 257mm at the nose insert (at reference stance). So a good bit wider. Usually wide enough that I would say size down, but my biggest concern there is effective edge for you. Part of the reason that the Dream Catcher is wider is because of quite a wide reference stance of 550mm (21.6″). If you were to ride it narrower, say at 510mm (20″), then that would make it feel narrower – likely around 253mm at the back insert and 255mm at the front. Still decently wider than the Feelgood, but would narrow it up a little.

      Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision

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64. Stefanie says

    March 3, 2020 at 11:32 pm

    Hello Nate,

    Great information on women boards, there are brands I never heard of. Thanks for that.
    I want to upgrade to a new board also, been riding for I guess 15 years but bought a used board back than for beginners not knowing anything about snowboarding.
    I always go to AUSTRIA when it comes to winter vacation for the great mountains. I love to go fast with the snowboard so that my friends who all ski don’t have to wait for me all the time. When there is a little more time, I love to carve but I don’t really go in the park for flips or anything, I guess I’m too scared to hurt myself. When it’s snowing I love the powder but I don’t go a lot off the track (I got lost a couple of times in front of water holes and had to walk in the deep snow – too much honestly😉😁).
    What would your recommendation be for me? Do you know the board Nitro Victoria? I went for a test run and liked the speed.

    Cheers Stefanie

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    • Nate says

      March 4, 2020 at 2:31 pm

      Hi Stefanie

      Thanks for your message.

      I haven’t ridden many Nitro boards, so I’m not that familiar with them, and I haven’t ridden the men’s equivalent of the Victoria, so I can’t give you much on that one.

      But looking at the specs, sounds like it’s a mid-stiff board with a full camber profile. So probably quite an aggressive ride for speed and carving, which it sounds like you’re mostly into. It’s got a directional sidecut, a longer nose than tail and a small setback. So it’s relatively directional, which is probably going to suit you as well, unless you like to ride switch a lot. Probably not going to be the best in powder, just not having any rocker in the profile, but not the worst either, given it’s directional nature. If you’re not riding powder that much, or if you’re never in really deep powder, then it will do the job fine.

      The closest equivalent in this list is the Burton Feelgood.

      From this list in general, I would be looking at the Feelgood, Swoon Camber, Hel Yes or Twin Sister. The other’s aren’t going to give you the kind of speed performance you’re looking for, I don’t think. If you don’t go Nitro Victoria but want similar, the Feelgood or Swoon Camber are the closest, especially the Feelgood. If you wanted just a bit more forgiveness, then the Twin Sister or Hel Yes are the way to go.

      If you’re not riding any switch or freestyle and want a bit more in terms of powder performance, then you could also check out:

      >>My Top 5 Women’s Freeride Snowboards

      Hope this helps

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65. Lynn says

    February 29, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    Hi Nate,
    I am running GNU B-Nice now and hope to have an upgrade. I am looking on sales boards in Canada and only ROSSIGNOL Justice and Frenemy are on sales here. Would you recomment me go Justice or Frenemy? Hope to know if it will be a necessnary upgrade from B nice, or you recomment other boards? I am pretty intermediate riders, learning true carving now, next step maybe pratice small jumps during normal ride. I am 166cm and 51 kg without gears with boots size women 7.
    thanks,

    Reply

    • Nate says

      March 2, 2020 at 10:45 am

      Hi Lynn

      Thanks for your message.

      As an intermediate rider and based on what you’re describing, I think the Frenemy would be a good step up from the B Nice, without reaching too far. The Justice is quite a stiff flexing option, and might be a step too far – and would also make it quite difficult to learn small jumps as well. I think the Frenemy would be a really good step up.

      Size-wise, I think the 144 would be your best bet for the Frenemy, for sure. In general I would say around 142-144 for your specs as an intermediate rider.

      Hope this helps with your decision

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66. Heather Kalman says

    February 25, 2020 at 3:35 pm

    I’m an intermediate to low-advanced rider and I’m interested in upgrading. I’m 5’4” and weigh 140lbs. If it helps; I don’t go in the park, I ride goofy most of the time but do enjoy riding switch every once in awhile. (Riding conditions: I live in BC and my home mountain is Big White but I tour throughout other BC resorts when I can) I currently ride a 149cm YES Emoticon with RIDE Bindings, the board is good but I don’t feel comfortable going fast. I like to carve and ride on edges yet I don’t feel stable on this board. I am looking for an all mountain board that would not be too stiff (still be nice is softer snow) but will let me carve a bit more and feel stable at higher speeds but also one that I can use in powder.

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    • Nate says

      February 26, 2020 at 3:18 pm

      Hi Heather

      Thanks for your message.

      If you otherwise like your Emoticon, then I think the Hel Yes would be a good option. It’s a good step up and would certainly give you more in terms of carving, speed and powder. It’s a stiffer flex than the Emoticon for sure, but it’s not overly stiff. Something that you can still ride switch on too – but overall a little more directional. I would stick with 149. I think that’s a good size for you.

      But if you wanted to change brands, then the Jones Twin Sister is also a good option, that would fit what you’re describing too.

      You could also look at some freeride options (they’re often but not always stiffer, so we could look at softer (around that 6/10 flex mark) options if you were interested), but you would be sacrificing in terms of switch with those. Let me know if you wanted to check those out, and I can give you some good options, otherwise, I think the Hel Yes or Twin Sister would work really well for what you’re describing.

      Hope this helps

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67. Courtney says

    February 16, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    Hi Nate,
    You have great information for women riders, thank you! I’m looking at getting a new board and wondering what you recommend? Currently looking at the 2020 YES Hel Yes 149 or 152 and the 2020 Jones Twin Sister 149 or 152.
    I’m an intermediate rider (level 5/6 based on your chart) and I’m looking to advance and go a bit faster. I’m 5’2”, 160lbs, wear 2018 Vans Aura Boa 8.5 boots, and have 2018 Burton Women’s Lexa Re:flex Bindings. I ride primarily in Tahoe and a little in CO.
    I currently ride a 2008 Arbor Cadence 146 that I’ve been riding from 2008-2011, 2015-now. Kids caused a bit of a hiatus from riding, but now I’m able to ride more often again, yay!
    The Arbor has been really good to me, it’s been great riding it and it really grew with me as a rider, but now I don’t always feel confident with it holding an edge on sometimes icy/crusty conditions and sometimes at high speeds it doesn’t feel super stable. This could just be that it’s too small of a board for me now?
    I enjoy cruising the mountain and I want a board that can go everywhere with me, from enjoying the steeps, bowls, and trees, to cruising more slowly with the kids. All of this diverse terrain in varying conditions from powder to icy, to spring slush-this will be my one board. If I visit the parks, I’m only doing little jumps and boxes.
    Thanks so much for all of your help!

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    • Nate says

      February 18, 2020 at 8:12 pm

      Hi Courtney

      Thanks for your message. Awesome that you’re able to ride more now. I have 2 small kids but fortunately as I do this I get to ride a lot still, but my wife isn’t able to get out as much as she used to for now, but hopefully will be able to get out more as the kids get bigger.

      Size-wise, I would say something around 148-150 is a good range to look at, so yeah I think you could do with a little more length over your current 146. The Cadence is more of a freestyle focused board, so going with something more versatile like the Hel Yes or Twin Sister is a great idea too, given how you describe your riding. Both would work really well for what you’re describing, IMO – they are very versatile boards for everywhere on the mountain and in all conditions.

      So, yeah I would go 149 for either. 152 isn’t crazy big for you, but it’s on the bigger side, and I think 149 is right in the sweet spot for your specs and how you describe your riding.

      Hope this helps with your decision

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68. Cate says

    February 4, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    Hi Nate,
    I’m thinking about a new board that is still good for all mountain riding, but goes a bit better in the powder as I live in Japan. I don’t spend much time in the park, but am often in fairly dense trees and it can get pretty icy in the afternoons. I have an oldish K2 ecopop 155cm which I still love for resort riding but do struggle a bit when the powder is deep and terrain is not that steep – ( ie – most of the time for Japan) and thinking it could be time for a new board. I also have a jones solution splitboard 156cm which I’m playing around with in the backcountry but I still spend more time in side country.
    From reading reviews I’m considering yes hel yes, but it seems hard to find it and especially in the bigger sizes. Do you have any other recommendations?
    I’m 172cm and about 65kg and probably somewhere between intermediate and advanced and have some joint issues so taking it a bit easier these days.

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    • Nate says

      February 5, 2020 at 3:29 pm

      Hi Cate

      Thanks for your message.

      The Jones Twin Sister would also be a good option, and comes in a 155, if that’s the kind of size you’re looking to stick to. Should give a bit more in terms of float in powder vs the Ecopop. Good in hard/icy conditions too.

      There are also more directional options you could consider. Boards that are still going to go well on groomers – not like powder specialist boards, but that are a little better in powder. There are some good options in that area (freeride boards) that aren’t too stiff as well, if you’re not looking to go too stiff (your joints may not like it if you go too stiff). You could check out the following for some good options.

      >>My Top 5 Women’s Freeride Snowboards

      If you want to expand on that list, let me know and I can find some other suitable options.

      Size-wise, you could even go a little shorter if you wanted – 152-ish. But if you’re comfortable in that 155 range or want to keep things longer for more float in powder, then all good. But typically for your specs, I’d say more around 152. Going a little shorter would sacrifice a little in terms of float, but would be better in the trees.

      Hope this helps

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      • Cate says

        February 6, 2020 at 4:25 pm

        Thanks for this advice Nate, it is really helpful. I have actually also been thinking about something more directional and a bit shorter to help in the trees, so your words are convincing me it could be a good idea. I don’t mind sacrificing a bit in terms of speed, riding switch and jumping, as long as I have something all purpose enough I can still have fun when there isn’t fresh snow.
        Looking at the freeride list, the Dreamcatcher seems to fit this profile pretty well. Any others?

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        • Nate says

          February 7, 2020 at 2:52 pm

          Hi Cate

          Yeah, I think the Dream Catcher would work well for that. A couple of others that come to mind are the GNU Klassy (151 or 155 options) and Capita Equalizer (150 is the longest size).

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69. Denise says

    January 23, 2020 at 3:04 pm

    Hi Nate,

    I didn’t see a reply link on your last message, so I’m creating this new thread.

    I know that the Ladies Choice is an asymmetrical board and riding with a duck stance is suggested but I’m more of a directional rider. I hardly ride switch so my bindings are set up at +15/0. Will this stance work for the Ladies Choice? Also, will moving my bindings back a little be doable so that I can get through powder? The magne-traction is leaning me more towards this board now.

    Reply

    • Nate says

      January 24, 2020 at 1:50 pm

      Hi Denise

      You can ride an asym board without a duck stance, but it’s recommended to ride it with one. You could also set back on it. I haven’t tried it on asym and it might be weird but I’m not sure.

      But since you’re more of a directional rider and want that powder performance, then I think you’d be better off going for a board that’s already designed and setup to do that. If you wanted to go something similar-ish to the Ladies Choice, but with an already directional setup and something that would suit your binding angles more, I would look at the GNU Klassy. It’s got the magne-traction too and the same camber profile as the Ladies Choice, but it’s designed already with a setback stance and is a directional ride already. I think something like that would be more suitable.

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      • Denise says

        January 27, 2020 at 11:33 am

        Thanks for all your help Nate! I actually decided on the Jones Twin Sister, 146cm 🙂 Super excited to receive this board and ride this weekend. I did change my binding stance to +15/-3 and might try to gradually go to +15/-15 and see how I like it.

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        • Nate says

          January 27, 2020 at 3:05 pm

          You’re very welcome Denise. Awesome that you have your new deck sorted! Hope it treats you well and you have an awesome time on it. If you think of it at the time, let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to ride it.

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          • Denise says

            February 3, 2020 at 1:25 pm

            Nate,

            First impressions is the Twin Sister is amazing!!! I definitely felt how fast it wanted to go once I got off the lift. It’s amazing on groomers and turning was very easy to get used to. I paired the board with Burton Lexa bindings and they both worked really well together. I will say since the board is a lot stiffer compared to my Deja Vu, I lost my balance a few times on uneven terrain but no worries it was something I had to get used to. The Twin Sister is not as forgiving as the Deja Vu but the speed makes up for it. This board definitely wants to go fast and I didn’t lose speed even on flat green/blue runs. I was even able to keep up with my boyfriend who rides a Lib Tech T Rice Pro and he goes FAST. Mammoth unfortunately didn’t have any powder this weekend but I hope I get to take my board to Tahoe at the end of this month to see some fresh pow. This board has definitely gave me more confidence and never did I once feel like I was going to slip on thin cover groomers or hard packed snow. I didn’t realize how fast I could go until I got on this board. I love it. Thank you so much again!!

          • Nate says

            February 4, 2020 at 11:50 am

            Hi Denise

            Awesome to hear that you’re getting on with the Twin Sister! And thanks for the feedback – always love to hear people’s opinions and insights.

            Happy riding!

70. Denise says

    January 20, 2020 at 3:58 pm

    Hi Nate,

    I’m an intermediate to advanced rider. I’m interested in upgrading and I’ve been doing some research on some new snowboards. I currently ride a Burton Deja Vu Flying V, size 146cm. I love the board when the snow is soft but I don’t feel comfortable going fast during icy conditions. I live in Southern California and board just about around this area only. I ride mostly at Mammoth and Bear Mountain. I want a hybrid board that holds an edge in icy conditions and also does well in powder. I don’t do much in the park if that helps. I’m also 5’3 and weigh 145lbs. Some boards that I have on my list are:

    Jones Dream Catcher
    Jones Twin Sister
    Yes Hel Yes
    Capita Paradise
    Burton Day Trader
    Burton Story Board

    If you could choose your top 3 to help me narrow down my search that would be super helpful.

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    • Nate says

      January 21, 2020 at 3:27 pm

      Hi Denise

      Thanks for your message.

      For what you’re describing, the top 3 from there would be the Hel Yes, Dream Catcher and Twin Sister. They are the best 3 from that list in hard/icy conditions, IMO. Something like the Day Trader or Story Board could work, but you wouldn’t see as much improvement in hard/icy conditions as the Jones/YES options there. You would see some improvement vs the Deja Vu Flying V though – so if you just wanted some improvement in icy conditions they could come back in to it. Noting that between them, that the Story Board is a little stiffer. The Paradise s OK in powder, but not as good as the others on this list – and not as good for hard/icy as the HY, TS & DC. So yeah, if you’re looking for that significant increase, then I’d go one of those.

      Size-wise, I would think about going a little longer too – up to 145-147. If you know you like shorter boards, it’s not something you have to do – but based on specs/ability/how you describe your riding, I think that would be a good size range to look at.

      Hope this helps

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      • Denise says

        January 22, 2020 at 10:29 am

        Thanks so much for all the info. The Hel Yes is sold out so I think I’m now deciding between the Jones Twin Sister, Dream Catcher, and the Lib Tech No 43. What do you think about the 43?

        Also, for the Twin Sister and No 43, I see there is only 146cm and 149cm. Do you suggest I go to the 149cm? For the Dream Catcher I would also be in between the 145cm and 148cm, so I’m not sure if I should size down or go up for that one. I wear a size 9 boot if that helps.

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        • Nate says

          January 22, 2020 at 12:26 pm

          Hi Denise

          The No.43, IMO, isn’t as suitable for powder as the Jones options. Will be fine in shallow powder, but when it gets deeper will be more of a fight to keep the nose afloat. Otherwise a good option, but if you need more in powder, then Mountain Twin or Dream Catcher are the better options, IMO.

          Sorry size-wise I said to size up and then basically gave you the same size you’re already on! For some reason, I was thinking your Deja Vu was a 143.

          For the Mountain Twin I would say 146 and for the Dream Catcher 148. The Dream Catcher is a board you can ride a little longer. For the No.43 I’d say 146. But it’s probably getting a bit narrow for size 9s. Even the 149 No.43 could be pushing it. I know it looks similar to the Dream Catcher 148 in terms of waist width, but it’s narrower at the inserts vs the Dream Catcher. You’d probably still be OK on the 149, but I would say that the 146 is the slightly better length for you, and that’s getting quite narrow for 9s, IMO.

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          • Denise says

            January 22, 2020 at 4:34 pm

            Thanks so much Nate, your insight is helping me but also is making me more curious! I just looked up the waist width on the No 43 and wow it’s pretty narrow. Well more narrow than my Deja Vu. So I think that option for me is eliminated.

            What do you think about the GNU Ladies Choice and Pro Choice in comparison to both Jones Dream Catcher and Twin Sister? I’ve read the GNU boards have a good edge hold but to me it seems more of a park board. Also, what size would you recommend for the GNU?

          • Nate says

            January 23, 2020 at 12:00 pm

            Hi Denise

            Yeah the Ladies Choice/Pro Choice have really good edge hold. The Pro Choice is predominantly camber and a little more aggressive vs the Ladies Choice. The Ladies Choice is also a little better in powder, so for you, I would be looking at Ladies Choice. I would call the Ladies Choice all-mountain-freestyle. Not strictly a park board – something that certainly performs very well in the park, but can ride the rest of the mountain well too. More freestyle/park focused than the likes of the Twin Sister/Dream Catcher, but not strictly park. A similar kind of board to the No.43. It’s not going to be as good in powder vs the Jones options, but it’s just a little better in powder than the No.43, IMO.

            Size-wise it’s a tough choice between the 145.5 and the 148.5. I would be leaning towards the 145.5 though. You’d get that little bit more in terms of speed and powder out of the 148.5, but overall I think the 145.5 is the better fit. The 145.5 is likely a little narrower overall, at the inserts vs the De Ja Vu, but I think it’s doable, especially with +15/-15 binding angles. Note that the Ladies Choice is an asym board (different heel edge vs toe edge), so riding it with a mirror duck stance is preferred for it. I really like the feel of Asym twins personally, but just thought you should know that’s what it is, in case that’s not something you want.

71. Mie says

    January 11, 2020 at 8:03 am

    Hi Nate

    first of all i am blown away by your knowlege, and i hope you can help me with deciding witch All mountain board to buy ( i am loosing my mind here, trying to get the “perfect board”;))

    I am a woman on intermediate level, been riding about 10 yeas on a Jeenyus camber 148, witch might has been too short and has definitely been stopping me to progress some times (it is super catchy and I have been falling flat hard a lot) and it does requires a lot of effort and energy. On the other hand it did force me to have a very good technique.
    I am 180cm tall and 62 kg, my boots are us size 9 (both Boots and binding are Burton – medium flex).
    I am looking for a board that is very catch free, but still stable at speed, I am not super fast, but want to be more confident on a new board to gain more speed. i do like to ride switch, do butters and play around, but not in the park
    I ride mostly pistes and a little bit of powder and trees (my riding bodys are all skiing). Mostly in Austia and France.
    These are the ones that i am intersted in:
    Burton feelgood Flying V
    Burton Yeasayer Flying V
    Burton Yeasayer flat top
    Arbor Swoon rocker
    Jones Twinsister
    Or??

    I was told that the flying V, is difficult to manage in flatter terrains (riding from mountain to mountain) have you any experience with that?

    Thank you so much in advance and sorry for the novel 🙂
    Best Mie

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    • Nate says

      January 13, 2020 at 11:09 am

      Hi Mie

      Thanks for your message.

      Firstly, in terms of size, I think you could size up a little, but I wouldn’t go too much bigger. I think something around 150, 151 would be a good bet for you.

      The Flying V profile can make things a little trickier when traversing, but it’s nothing too bad. The Flying V is quite a loose feeling profile, that’s very catch-free and easy to ride. The medium flex of the Feelgood Flying V somewhat counters that looseness, compared to if it was softer flexing, but still pretty loose feeling. The edge-hold in hard/icy conditions isn’t great with the Flying V either, so that’s certainly something to consider. In softer snow, it’s a very good option though, IMO.

      Unlike the Feelgood camber, the Flying V version is softer flexing, as well as having that different camber profile – so the Flying V version is more like 5/10 flex vs the 7/10 flex on the Feelgood. The Yeasayer is a little softer again – maybe like 4/10. The Flat Top version is a little more stable feeling than the Flying V and feels a little stiffer too. It’s still quite catch-free, but not quite as loose a feel to it. The Swoon Rocker is probably around a 5.5/10 flex – it feels just a touch softer than the Camber version (which tends to be the case with camber vs rocker). It’s also on the looser side with all that rocker, but Arbor’s rocker isn’t as loose feeling as other “all rocker” boards, but still relatively loose.

      The Twin Sister is a very stable feeling board, and I would say the most stable feeling of the list. It’s a little stiffer too. 6/10 flex I would say or maybe even a touch more. You could ride the Twin Sister a little shorter than that suggested range (i.e. going for the 149 vs the 152) if you wanted to mellow it out a bit. It’s not overly aggressive by any means – not to the extent of something like the Feelgood camber, but it’s a little more board to handle vs the others on the list. But I wouldn’t call it catchy.

      Overall, I think if you’re OK with a loose feeling and little bit wobbly on those traverses, and don’t see too much in the way of hard/icy conditions, then the Feelgood Flying V or the Yeasayer Flat Top could work well. But if you want a more stable feel, with better edge-hold in hard/icy conditions, in a slightly more advanced ride (but still good for a solid intermediate rider), then the Twin Sister would be what I’d go with. The Arbor Swoon rocker has a little better edge-hold, so that’s something that’s a little looser than the Twin Sister, but not as loose as the Flying V, but a little better edge-hold vs the Flying V.

      Overall, from what you’re describing, I would be leaning Twin Sister. You could also check out the following, if you wanted more options (don’t want to confuse things more, but just wanted to make sure you have all the options at hand).

      >>Top 10 Intermediate Snowboards

      Hope this helps with your decision

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      • Mie says

        January 22, 2020 at 1:33 pm

        Hi Nate
        Thank you so much for your reply, it was really helpfull!
        I have decided that the flying v and rocker profile is not for me, it is going to be too unstable in cat tracks and when flat basing.

        But i would love to get help and expertise again.

        so i have narrowed it down (and aded a few) to Jones ,twin sister or the dream catcher,
        Yes, emoticon
        Capita, Paradise.

        my bindings are Burton Custom size S.

        Thanks a lot.

        Best Mie

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        • Nate says

          January 23, 2020 at 11:46 am

          Hi Mie

          I would say the Emoticon and Paradise are both a little more easy going than the Twin Sister or Dream Catcher but certainly not loose feeling. So, based on what you described in your first comment, I feel like they might be a good way to go.

          The Emoticon (4/10) is a little softer flexing than the Paradise (5/10) with the Emoticon having the better edge hold in hard/icy conditions. But both are certainly more of a stable feel as opposed to a looser feel. Neither are great in deep powder, but if you’re not really in anything too deep, they should be fine. The Paradise a little better in powder vs the Emoticon. The Paradise also better at speed. The Emoticon is more buttery, but the Paradise is pretty buttery too. Both more buttery than the Twin Sister and Dream Catcher. Both easy to maneuver for trees etc.

          Size-wise, for the Emoticon, I’d say it’s between the 149 and 152. There’s not a lot of tip and tail going on there, so there’s quite a bit of effective edge compared to overall length, which makes me lean slightly towards the 149. Of course if you wanted to improve it’s stability at speed and float in powder, the 152 would help there.

          For the Paradise, the 149 is the longest option, and I would say that’s the shortest you’d want to go with that particular board, so if you went Paradise, I’d go with the 149.

          Oh and apologies, I liked you to the wrong intermediate list in my last comment. Should have been:

          >>Top 10 Women’s Intermediate Snowboards

          Some other options, if you haven’t already considered them would be the Salomon Rumble Fish, Never Summer Infinity and Rossignol Frenemy.

          Reply

72. Anya says

    January 8, 2020 at 8:04 am

    Hi Nate,

    Thank you for sharing all the information online, the input you provide is great! I’m boarding for the past 18 years and I think I can say I’m an intermediate to advanced level boarder. I’m in the process of buying a new board and was wondering if you can offer some help.

    I’m really excited about step on system from Burton and I think I’m set on that. I will get Felix boots in size 8,5 or 9 and appropriate burton bindings. I’m 5’-7” tall and 126 lbs. I need to find an appropriate board. I mostly board on East Coast, but I also do sometimes trips to West Coast. I enjoy trails and easy carving down the mountain, but also like to pick up on some speed when the terrain allows and even go off trail sometimes. So definitely in search for an all mountain board. I was looking at Yes Hel Yes, but the board is all sold out. Now I’m looking at the Burton Feelgood board, but the fact that you are describing it as an aggressive board is a bit scary to me. Would I be better of with Jones Twin Sister, you scored them the same. I was wondering if you can provide your perspective and advise on appropriate size for me.

    Your help is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!

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    • Nate says

      January 8, 2020 at 1:54 pm

      Hi Anya

      Thanks for your message.

      Yeah, based on how you describe your riding, I would be going with the Twin Sister. I would have also said Hel Yes, but sounds like it’s not available. The Twin Sister I think would be a better balance between aggressive and playful for you – and better in icy conditions for the East Coast riding.

      Size-wise, I would go 146 for the Twin Sister for you.

      A good match with the Felix too, IMO.

      Hope this helps with your decision

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      • Anya says

        January 8, 2020 at 7:30 pm

        Hi,

        thank you for your fast response. I’m doing some more research and I’m wondering if you can provide some comparison between Twin Sister and Dream Catcher? Are both equally good? I also run into the Capita Birds of a Feather and Equalizer and I was wondering what you think about it compared to Jones Twin Sister?

        Thank you again, your help is really appreciated since there is a flood of snowboards out there and buying one can get quite complicated.

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        • Nate says

          January 9, 2020 at 1:03 pm

          Hi Anya

          The Dream Catcher is a slightly more directional board and has some different strengths and weaknesses but still a good board. You can check out my review on it to do a more thorough comparison:

          – Jones Dream Catcher Review

          The Birds of a Feather is a more aggressive board and a little more freestyle focused. Not great in powder and not as good in hard/icy conditions as the Jones options, IMO.

          The Equalizer is a more directional option and a solid all-round choice too. Still not quite as good in hard/icy as the Jones options, but otherwise a good all-round option. Vs the Twin Sister, very similar in terms of carving, & powder. Not quite as good at speed, but a little better in uneven terrain. A little better for jumps but not as good for switch.

          So based on what you’re describing, I would probably not go Birds of a Feather, but the Dream Catcher and Equalizer are viable alternatives – hope this gives you more to go off.

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          • Anya says

            January 9, 2020 at 7:58 pm

            Hi Nate,

            Thank you again. I did a full circle 🙂 Back on Jones Twin Sister, I think it is the best option for me. I just want to verify the size. 146cm hits me right a bit above my shoulder and 149 a little below my chin. Do you still think I should go with 146 size? I feel it is a tough one since the weight recommendations are so vague. For 146 the weight is between 100-150 and for 149 the weight is between 110-160. Pretty much overlapping. Your input is greatly appreciated!

          • Nate says

            January 10, 2020 at 12:39 pm

            Hi Anya

            I do like to take height into account, but the most important factors for sizing are weight and boot size, so I wouldn’t worry too much about where the board sits, in terms of your chin or anything like that. 149 certainly isn’t way off for your specs. I put you roughly on about a 148, as a standard length for an all-mountain board, assuming an advanced level. So could have gone to either 146 or 149. I went 146 for a couple of reasons. Firstly, you described yourself as intermediate to advanced. I usually take off a little length for an intermediate level. Since you’re at least on the cuff of it, I wouldn’t necessarily take off size for that alone but that in addition to the other factors. Secondly, it doesn’t sound like you’re an overly aggressive rider and usually I would err longer for more aggressive riders. Thirdly, the Twin Sister is quite wide at the inserts compared to the waist, so it’s overall a wider feeling board. I usually err on the shorter length option if a board is a little wider, depending on boot size. So, overall I erred slightly shorter, rather than slightly longer.

            In saying that, the 149 is certainly not out of the picture. One other thing to consider is what you’re used to riding, and if you have a preference for certain lengths. Like if you’re used to riding north of 150, let’s say, then going 149 probably makes more sense. Or if you know that you’ve ridden boards around that 146 and found them too short, then going up to 149 makes sense. On the info, I would go 146 for you. But I would definitely take into account what you’re used to riding and adjust from there if you need too – particularly since you’ve been riding for 18 years.

73. Sylvia says

    December 11, 2019 at 9:56 am

    Hi Nate,

    Thanks for posting this! Really helpful to learn more about snowboard profiles.
    I’m 5’7 and 163lbs and have been riding LTR rental boards (148-149cm) mostly in the east coast for the past 2 seasons, averaging about 10-12days per season. I would say i’m high-end beginner level as I managed to do blue runs in the east coast quite comfortably in good snow condition towards the end of last season.

    This year I’m planning to venture out west to utah/colorado/tahoe. I’m ready for my first board and have demo the burton feel good 149cm in hard icy condition, and it was brutal, barely managed a blue run. (there was only one type of board at the resort). I was suggested the burton yeasayer 148 or rome kashmir as a start board. However, i am also looking at a couple of used board options. Would the burton feather 149 or burton genie or salomon lotus 149 suit my profile? Or do you think i should stick with the feel good if i won’t be on icy conditions? Any recommendations will be appreciated! Thank you!

    Reply

    • Sylvia says

      December 11, 2019 at 10:23 am

      Forgot to add, i wear a shoe size 8.

      Reply

      • Nate says

        December 11, 2019 at 12:08 pm

        Hi Sylvia

        Thanks for your message.

        Firstly, in terms of length, I would say something between 150 and 153 for your specs, as a high-end beginner. Width-wise, I would go at least 233mm at the waist, to be safe, but no more than 243mm at the waist, if possible.

        The Feelgood, assuming you rode the camber version, is a very advanced board – quite stiff and traditional camber. Pretty much the opposite of what’s good for a beginner and a long long way from the LTR! So, I wouldn’t suggest getting that board – it’s a lot of board to handle. The Feelgood Flying V version is more doable for a high-end beginner going on intermediate rider.

        The Yeasayer (whether the flat-top of flying v version) is a much more easy going option and definitely doable. You could ride the 148, if you wanted to stick to a similar size that you’ve been riding and to make it even more easy going, or you could go 152 if you wanted as well – though the 152 is getting quite wide for your boots, IMO.

        I don’t test Rome gear, so I don’t really know how accurate their flex ratings tend to be but just looking at the specs, I think the Kashmir will be too stiff (rated 7/10 flex). Also it’s a purely flat profile. Preferably I think you’d want some rocker in the profile. Again, I don’t know how Rome’s profile tend to feel, but looking at the specs, I wouldn’t be that keen on the Kashmir for you.

        The Burton Feather is a very beginner friendly, easy going board – and would be great for your progression, IMO. The only question would be whether you could grow out of it too quickly. The same goes for the Genie. Note that the Genie is more freestyle focused and the Feather more freeride focused. So, if you did get one of those, then I would go Feather if you think you want to ride powder in the future, or already are, and Genie if you think you want to learn tricks, jumps, jibs etc. The Lotus is also beginner friendly, though maybe not quite as beginner friendly because of the profile, but still pretty soft flexing.

        I would say the Yeasayer, of the boards you have mentioned, is the best option as a balance between being easy enough to progress on, but being something that you won’t grow out of too quickly. For more options that match that description, also check out:

        >>Top 10 Women’s Intermediate Snowboards

        Or if you want the easiest possible progression and aren’t worried about growing out of it too quickly, check out:

        >>My Top 10 Women’s Beginner Snowboards

        Hope this helps with your decision

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74. Mica says

    December 9, 2019 at 9:49 am

    Hi! Thanks for the helpful reviews.

    I plan to replace my gear (from 2013) this year, and I wanted your opinion. I’m 5’2 and 150 lbs. I’ve been snowboarding for about 15 years, and I would consider myself a high intermediate / low advanced boarder. I love carving groomers, bowls, and trees and playing around on natural features.
    Initially, I would typically spend 30-40 days on the mountain each season. However, I moved to Nashville eight years ago, so I only get out west a couple of weeks a year now. I’ve been researching the Yes Hel Yes, and I was curious if you thought that was a good fit for me and what size you would recommend. I’m also open to any other suggestions you have. Thanks!

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    • Nate says

      December 9, 2019 at 12:11 pm

      Hi Mica

      Thanks for your messages.

      I think the Hel Yes would be a really good fit for what you’re describing. Size-wise, the 149 would be spot on, IMO, for your specs/experience/how you describe your riding. As an experienced rider, personal preference and what you’re used to come into it as well. But based on those things I’d say 149 for sure.

      Hope this helps with your decision

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      • Mica says

        December 9, 2019 at 4:50 pm

        Awesome! That’s the size I was thinking, but I wanted to get a second opinion. Thank you so much!

        Reply

        • Nate says

          December 10, 2019 at 4:29 pm

          You’re very welcome Mica. Hope you have a great season and enjoy your new board!

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75. Mica says

    December 7, 2019 at 2:14 pm

    Hi! Great reviews! Interested in your opinion on new gear I’m looking into. I’m 5’2 and 150 lbs and wear 7.5 boots. I’ve been riding for about 15 years. The first several years, I would go 30-40 days each season. However, now I live in Nashville and only make it out west a couple of weeks each year. I would consider myself an intermediate to advanced rider. I enjoy carving groomers, bowls, and trees. I like playing on natural features and only occasionally hit small jumps in the park. I’ve been researching the Yes Hel Yes, but I’m open to any other recommendations you may have. Thank you!

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76. Jana Novotna says

    December 2, 2019 at 5:17 am

    Hi Nate,

    great reviews! I have been riding on the Roxy Banana Smoothie from 2014 (size 149). It´s very playful an great when the snow is soft. I have however had quite hard time riding on a harder/icy snow. I also enjoy carving and this board doesn´t feel too stable when I ride on the edges. I am looking for an all mountain, that I can also use in powder. I was checking Jones Dream Catcher, Jones Twin Sister, Capita The Equalizer, Yes Hel, Lib Tech no. 43. I am 173 tall, shoe size 39 and 65 kg. I would be happy for any advice or suggestion. J

    Jana

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    • Nate says

      December 2, 2019 at 3:28 pm

      Hi Jana

      Thanks for your message.

      I don’t think you would feel too limited by Directional Twin – it’s going to give you more versatility than a true twin – in that you can still ride it both ways, but it gives you a bit more in terms of powder. Not as much as a more directional board, but gives a good balance if you didn’t want to go fully directional.

      Any of those options would be good for what you’re describing and certainly give you more stability than the Banana Smoothie (which is quite a loose board).

      In terms of what’s best in hard/icy conditions, I would say Hel Yes, then Dream Catcher/Twin Sister then Equalizer.

      The Dream Catcher is a little more directional than the others. So, if you think you’d prefer more directional – like if you’re really never riding switch or doing 180s, then that might be a good option for you. Otherwise, they would all be a good step up from the Banana Smoothie without being too much of a shock to the system.

      The No.43 is a true twin. It would certainly be a good option if you’re looking to stay with a twin, but not as good for powder as the other options, IMO.

      Size-wise, I would say something around 150-152, for your specs, what you’re describing and given that you’re quite an experienced rider. You could go a little shorter if you wanted more maneuverability, but otherwise, I think that would be a good range for you.

      For the mentioned boards, I would say:

      Dream Catcher: 151
      Twin Sister: 149 or 152
      Equalizer: 150
      Hel Yes: 149 or 152
      No.43: 149 or 152

      Hope this helps with your decision

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      • Jana Novotna says

        December 4, 2019 at 12:50 am

        Hi Nate,

        thank you so much for your advice. I am really leaning towards the Hel Yes. I am planning to try a bit more freeride but unfortunately you never really know how the conditions will be and many times it gets quite icy. I don´t ride switch eventhough I try.

        But the board is not too hard in case the terrain gets a bit uneven right?

        Also, what binding would you suggest?

        Have a great day!
        Jana

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        • Nate says

          December 4, 2019 at 2:55 pm

          Hi Jana

          I don’t think you’ll find the Hel Yes too hard in uneven terrain.

          In terms of bindings I would go for something with 5/10 or 6/10 flex to match the board – something from the following would suit the Hel Yes well:

          >>Top Women’s All-Mountain Bindings

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          • Jana Novotna says

            December 5, 2019 at 1:47 pm

            Hi Nate,

            very last question: would the Union Juliette bindings also work. They are on a offer with Hel Yes right now but not sure if they would fit.

            Thank you
            Jana

          • Nate says

            December 6, 2019 at 12:06 pm

            Hi Jana

            I think the Union Juliet would work on the Hel Yes. It’s got a 5/10 flex, so in terms of flex it’s a close enough match. Not quite the same quality as something like the Trilogy and the Trilogy a little more responsive for sure. But for the price, the Juliet is still decent quality. Ideally if you were going Union, I would go Trilogy or Legacy for Hel Yes, but the Juliet would certainly do the job and save a bit of money

77. Jana says

    December 1, 2019 at 10:22 pm

    Hi Nate,

    I am looking for a new board. Since a few years I have been riding on the Roxy Banana Smoothie from 2014 (size 149). The board is very playful in soft snow but I have had difficulties riding on harder/icy snow. I like to carve and ride on edges and I didn’t feel too stable on this board. I am looking for an all mountain board that would not be too stiff (still be nice is softer snow) but will let me carve a bit more and feel stable also on harder snow but also one that I can use in powder. I don’t ride in parks but like to take advantage of the sides of the slope and any bumps I find along. I was looking at Jones Twin sister, Dream catcher, Capita The Equalizer, Hel Yes (Open for other suggestions). I am quite experienced – more than 10 years, 173 tall, shoe size 39. I was wondering if the directional twin is a good choice or if it limits you a bit. The banana smoothie is a true twin.

    Thank you
    Jana

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78. Sarah says

    December 1, 2019 at 12:59 pm

    Hi Nate,

    I’m an intermediate to advanced rider. I currently ride a board that my friend made in Tahoe. I went on a backcountry trip to Baldface the past three years and always rented a board. I’m looking for an all mountain board that rides well on powder, groomers back country etc… I ride goofy and like to go fast but also be in control. I’m 5’5” and weigh about 120, foot size 7. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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    • Nate says

      December 2, 2019 at 2:42 pm

      Hi Sarah

      Thanks for your message.

      From what you’re describing, I think the Twin Sister or Hel Yes would be your best bets from this list. They give a good combination of float in powder and stability at speed, which are two things that it sounds like you need most. They’re also not like beasts or anything. Still fairly easy to maneuver at slow speeds, when not really charging.

      If powder and speed are your main things and you want to really optimize them and especially if you’re going to be doing a fair few backcountry excursions, then you could also check out:

      >>My Top 5 Women’s Freeride Snowboards

      Which are more directional and more made for riding freeride. Usually a little stiffer, but not always. If you don’t ride switch or any kind of freestyle, then they’re worth checking out too.

      Size-wise, I would say something around 145 would be a good bet for your specs, description of your riding and ability level.

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply

79. Allison says

    November 26, 2019 at 12:17 pm

    Hey there!

    I started out riding (and still am) a 155cm “beginners” board (I couldn’t tell you the brand…). Now that I’ve been riding for 5 years, it’s time for an upgrade. I’m 5’7”, at 150lbs and wear a size 10 boot. I gravitate forwards the 155cm to avoid toe and heel drag. Anyway, I ride mostly in NY – meaning little powder and lots of hard surface. I’d like to get into jumping and overall different terrain riding but feel that my board is too inflexible to provide what I need to get into the trees/jumps/etc.

    Do you have any suggestions on brand/type? Thanks in advance!

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    • Nate says

      November 27, 2019 at 2:43 pm

      Hi Allison

      Thanks for your message.

      Firstly, in terms of length, I would say something around 153 would be a good bet, at an advanced level. If you consider yourself more intermediate, then around 150-152. But since you’re used to 155, then probably something around 151-154, depending would be a good bet.

      In terms of width, depending on binding angles, I think something around 243mm to 250mm at the waist width as a rough estimate would work. If you ride with angles like +15/-15 you should be able to get away with going narrower than that – down to around 238mm at the waist – and if you ride with a very straight back foot, then more like 245mm to 255mm.

      Assuming at least an intermediate level, and taking into account your conditions and how you describe your riding, I would suggest the following (one or more might be more relevant depending on your typical binding angles):

      – Yes Hel Yes 152 (242mm waist)
      – Jones Twin Sister 152 (245mm waist) – this should be wide enough regardless of binding angles. It’s wider at the inserts vs the waist than the average board
      – Rossignol Frenemy 153 (242mm waist)

      Since you don’t see much powder, I would also consider the following:

      – Salomon Rumblefish 152 (245mm waist)
      – GNU Ladies Choice 153.4 (244mm waist)

      Hope this helps with your decision

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80. Grace says

    November 6, 2019 at 3:13 pm

    HI Nate,

    I am looking at purchasing a new board for the upcoming season in Japan. I did my first season there last year and very keen to go back. However, I am having trouble deciding which board to purchase as well as appropriate length. I am fairly new to the sport [only learning to board last year], however would say I’m beginner/intermediate. I am looking for something that I can use all over the mountain.

    I am 165cm, approximately 70-75kg, with a boot size US 9

    Cheers,
    Grace

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    • Nate says

      November 7, 2019 at 12:26 pm

      Hi Grace

      Thanks for your message.

      Being at that lower end intermediate/high-end beginner, I would recommend checking out the following:

      >>Top 10 Women’s Intermediate Snowboards

      Some good all-mountain options include the Infinity and the Rossignol Frenemy (also on this list). And also the Burton Feelgood Flying V (the camber version is on this list but wouldn’t recommend that for your level).

      Size-wise, I think something between 148 and 150 would be a good range to look at.

      So, the Infinity in the 149 – but my only concern there is if it’s a little narrow for your boots.

      The 150 Rossignol Frenemy would be a good size – and I think that would be fine for your boots too.

      The Feelgood Flying V 149 would be a good bet – and is also a good width for your boots, IMO.

      Hope this helps with your decision

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81. Krista M says

    October 6, 2019 at 8:26 pm

    Hi Nate,

    I’m so impressed with your knowledge and advice on boards. I’ve been riding for about 8 years now on a Ride board (143). I ride mostly east coast (WV, NC, NH, VT). I usually just ride groomed and stick to the trails (blues to double blacks) and like to cruise. I find myself struggling to keep up speed-wise with my friends, especially if I hit a cat walk. I’m thinking it’s time for a bigger board. I’m 5’6”, 135lbs, shoe size 7.5. I’m planning to ride in Utah and Colorado this winter and hopefully will ride some powder.

    Also I bought flows two years ago. I can’t remember the exact model. I ordered the isis but due to the name they sent me the newer ones with a different name. I honestly struggle to get in and out of them from the back latch thing. Any suggestions on bindings as well to go with the hel yes?

    I’ve been looking into the Hel yes but have no idea which size to get.

    Thank you in advance!

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    • Nate says

      October 7, 2019 at 12:23 pm

      Hi Krista

      Thanks for your message.

      From what you’re describing, you’re definitely on the right list and on the right track with the Hel Yes, IMO. And going a little longer will certainly help with glide on those cat tracks. For your specs, I would say around 149 would be a good length to go for, assuming an advanced level of riding. If you identify more as intermediate, then you could size down a little from there. So, I think sizing up a little from what you’re currently riding makes sense, even taking cat tracks out of the equation.

      So for the Hel Yes, it would be weighing up the 146 and 149.

      The other option is the Twin Sister. One of the reasons, I bring this board up specifically is because I’ve found Jones boards typically have the best “glide” on flats – which would certainly also (as well as increasing the length) help you on cat tracks. But both options would def work well for what you’re describing, IMO. Size-wise for the Twin Sister, I would be leaning towards 149, but again either 146 or 149 would be what I would be weighing up for you for that board.

      The Hel Yes 146 and the Twin Sister 149 have the same effective edge – so for the Twin Sister you can afford to go a little longer – which is why for the Twin Sister I would be leaning towards the 149.

      Whereas I would be leaning 146 for the Hel Yes, for a couple of reasons. Firstly, because it has more effective edge vs overall length than the average board (so it will feel a little longer than the 146 suggests) and secondly, because you’re used to a 143, going up to 146 isn’t as big a leap as going to 149. For the Twin Sister, even though going 149 would be a bigger leap for overall length vs what you have, it will feel a little shorter than a 149.

      One advantage of going Hel Yes over the Twin Sister is just that little bit more edge hold in hard/icy conditions and if you’re riding out East a lot you might appreciate that. That said, The Twin Sister is pretty good in that department – just not quite to the same extent as Hel Yes. The 149 Twin Sister would provide just a little better float in powder vs the 146 Hel Yes.

      Hope this all makes sense and gives you more to go off for your decision

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      • Krista M says

        October 7, 2019 at 9:42 pm

        Hi Nate,

        Thank you so much for your advice. I ordered the 149 Hel yes. I think it’s going to be a huge upgrade from my old board and give me more speed to keep up with the guys.

        Now, let it snow!

        Happy riding!

        Thanks again.

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        • Nate says

          October 8, 2019 at 9:17 am

          You’re very welcome Krista. Yes, bring on the snow! Hope you have a great season with your new board. If you think of it at the time, let me know how you go with it.

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82. Kimberly says

    September 30, 2019 at 7:59 am

    Hey Nate!

    I would consider myself an intermediate rider (6 based on your ability level scale). I do a lot of riding through different terrain. I mostly enjoy carving through the trees and hitting little jumps but also will occasionally zip down the groomers. I’m from the Canadian Rockies, so powder is hit or miss, but I do enjoy it when it’s around! I am beginning to peak and interest in back country but would likely look into a separate set up for that.

    My current set up is a Capita birds of feather 148cm. I am looking for something a bit more responsive and suited to my riding type. I am 5’1 and weight about 60kg. I am currently looking into the YES hel yes 146 or 149, Arbor Swoon rocker 144 or 148 or camber 143 or 147. I am not sure which length or board would be best suited for me. I like the Capita, but i do find I can’t always get the perfect carves in the trees that I desire.

    I’m interested to see what you would recommend! And if there’s another board you believe that would be better suited.

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    • Nate says

      September 30, 2019 at 1:10 pm

      Hi Kimberly

      Thanks for your message.

      Firstly, size-wise, I think you could come down in size from your current Birds of a Feather. I think something 143-145 would be a better range for you to look at. But if you could also let me know your boot size, I could get more accurate with sizing. If you’re riding something that’s a little wide for your boots, then that’s certainly going to affect response and make it require more effort to go from edge to edge. So either finding something narrower or sizing down a little more again (going shorter can make up for loss of maneuverability from riding something too wide) could be necessary, if the board’s we’re looking at are wider than ideal.

      For the Hel Yes (which I think would suit what you’re describing), the smallest size is 146, which I think you would be fine on, given that you’re used to 148. I wouldn’t go longer than that though. And again, I think it also depends on boot size.

      For the Swoon. It’s a touch call between the rocker and camber options. The rocker will feel quicker edge to edge through the trees and give you more float in powder. But won’t be as good for carving the groomers and will lack a little for stability at speed and for pop. I think from what you’re describing the Rocker is probably your best bet, but it’s a tough call. Size-wise I would probably be looking at 144/143 – but again might depend on boot size. The camber would be aggressive and give you more pop and spring, but would be a good step down in powder.

      I think the Twin Sister would work too, and the size most likely the 143 – but the 146 would be a possibility too.

      Hope this helps and if you can let me know your boot size, I can confirm my opinion re sizing.

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      • Kimberly Trinh says

        October 3, 2019 at 10:42 pm

        Thanks for all of that information Nate!

        My boot size is a women’s 7.5US. Hopefully you can have a better grasp on giving a more firm answer!

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        • Nate says

          October 4, 2019 at 11:40 am

          Hi Kimberley

          Thanks for the extra info. I would say you should be fine on all those options, with your boot size. With the Arbor Swoon perhaps actually being on the getting too narrow side. So, I would say a good bet would be 143 or 146 Twin Sister or 146 Hel Yes.

          The debate between 143 and 146 for the Twin Sister is a tough one. The Twin Sister has less effective edge compared to overall length vs the Hel Yes (and vs the Birds of a Feather), which points me towards the 146. But the Twin Sister is a little wider – and it’s the kind of board that’s quite wide at the inserts compared to the waist width (so where your bindings will actually be, it’s wider than it looks), which makes me lean towards the 143. Overall, from what you’re describing, and if you go for a different setup when you start looking at backcountry, then I would just be leaning towards 143.

          Hope this helps

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83. Ashley says

    August 4, 2019 at 11:02 pm

    Hi Nate!

    I have been snowboarding for a few seasons, and my first board was a 149 salomon surface. I would say I am intermediate now (probably on the lower end) and am looking to get a new board.

    I would like to start playing around with tricks but at the same time I also want a certain amount of speed and control while going downhill as I find that my current board doesn’t seem to be very fast and my turns are not very agile. The conditions I snowboard in are quite varied sometimes it’s really icy and sometimes I do get powder. I am 165 cm and 50kg so I was thinking of the 142 or 145 Never Summer proto type two. My footsize is 235cm (US Women 6.5) and my current bindings are Burtons Citizen Re:Flex for women.

    Your input would be much appreciated!

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    • Nate says

      August 6, 2019 at 10:09 am

      Hi Ashley

      Thanks for your message.

      I agree that sizing down is a good idea for you. IMO 149 is quite a bit too long – and likely one of the major reasons you’re not finding your turns very agile. Given how you’re describing how you want to ride, something around 142 would be a good length for you, IMO. The 142 PT2 would be a good width for your boots too, IMO.

      The Proto Type Two, in the 142, would be a great choice for everything you’re describing, with the one down-side being powder. If you’re not in powder that much – or if you find that you’re never really in deep powder – like only ever a couple of inches, then it’ll be fine. But if you get into deeper powder, then you’re probably better off going with something off this list, to get a bit more powder performance. But if you’re not really seeing deep powder, then the PT2 142, or anything from the following, in a similar size, would work well, IMO.

      >>My Top 5 Women’s All-Mountain Freestyle Snowboards

      Hope this helps with your decision

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      • Ashley says

        August 26, 2019 at 3:06 am

        Thanks for your reply Nate! If I was looking at deeper powder, would a 142 Jones dream catcher be too short for me?

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        • Nate says

          August 27, 2019 at 10:30 am

          Hi Ashley

          If you were wanting to use the Dream Catcher as your do-it-all board, and want to also be learning tricks on it, then I think the 142 is a good size – and will still be good in deeper powder than something like the PT2 142 – just because it’s designed to be better in powder. Length and width are factors for float for sure – but there are other things too – and the Dream Catcher is quite good in powder for those other factors regardless of size. So I think the 142 would be a good option for that board for a bit of everything.

          But If you’re looking at it as a second board and want to maximize powder, stability at speed, then the 145 – or even the 148, if part of a quiver, would be a better option.

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84. Kimberly A Rivera says

    June 7, 2019 at 11:58 pm

    Hey Nate,

    I’m an intermediate boarder from the northeast coast (riding mostly in NY/PA/Vermont) and have been riding an old used board for the past 4 seasons. I’ve been in desperate need for an update and after some research decided to go for the Arbor swoon rocker 148cm (it was also on an awesome promo). I loved the look and reviews of the board but after reading some of your comments here, I am wondering if I should have went for the chamber rather then the rocker. I’m mostly riding on groomed trails but am hoping to expand into the woods and looking to get on more powdery trails. That being said, as I advance, I’ve been wanting to go faster, but I’m definitely not the person to be gunning it straight down the mountain. Do you think the swoon will limit my speed and will be less stable for carving than the chamber? I’m not much of a park-goer, just some baby jumps here and there.

    Any insight would be amazing! I’m also 125lb and 5’4. I chose the 148cm based off some reviews and size charts I read. I’m also looking for new bindings for this board, something simple and on the less expensive size.

    Kim

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    • Nate says

      June 10, 2019 at 12:36 pm

      Hi Kimberly

      Thanks for your message.

      You would certainly get a bit more in terms of speed and carving out of the camber version and a bit more pop. But riding the Coda Rocker (men’s equivalent of the Swoon), the rocker version is better for carving than what I would usually expect from an all rocker board, and in terms of speed. But not to the level of the Camber version. But you do get an easier ride and something better in powder – and in uneven terrain, IMO. A little more effortless changing edges (which is of course nice to have in the woods). If you were really bombing and riding quite aggressively and getting into deeper carves, then I might say camber, rather than rocker. But I think you’ll be fine with the rocker, from what you’re describing and get just a bit more versatility out of it.

      Size-wise, I would have recommended the 144, taking everything into account. But the 148 isn’t way off – and it will give more in terms of float in powder and stability at speed. Just not as nimble, not as good in the woods and not as good for more freestyle stuff. So 148 isn’t super long for you, IMO, but ideally I would have gone 144 for you.

      In terms of bindings, it’s a good idea to get something with the right flex to match your board, ability level and your riding style. So, something with around a 5/10 or 6/10 flex would work well for you, IMO. A lot of cheaper bindings tend to be softer flexing, so just so you don’t go out and just buy the cheapest, as you want something suitable too. But there are also some well priced bindings in that flex range too. I would say a good balance of price and quality and being suitable for your needs, the following would be great choices.

      -Union Trilogy
      -Burton Scribe
      -Salomon Mirage

      And if you can find something past season, then that should save you a good bit too. If you want to go for something even less in terms of cost, then the Union Juliet is worth checking out – still reasonably quality and a good flex match, but a little less in terms of price.

      Hope this helps

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      • Kimberly A Rivera says

        June 16, 2019 at 5:48 am

        Thanks Nate, this was really helpful! I had trouble finding a 144 board, but there are still 140’s available, is this too small? If I can still find 144 boards, I’d rather swap then spend the money for a board that’s not exactly what I need.

        If I ended up switching to a chamber, would 147 still be too large? It’s been tricky finding the smaller sizes for last years boards. Ug!

        Also thanks again!!!

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