Hello and welcome to my Capita Navigator snowboard review.
In this review, I will take a look at the Navigator as a mellow freeride snowboard.
As per tradition here at SnowboardingProfiles.com I will give the Navigator a score out of 100 (based on several factors) and see how it compares with other mellow freeride snowboards.
Overall Rating
Board: CAPiTA Navigator
Price: $649
Style: Mellow Freeride
Flex Rating: Medium (5.5/10)
Flex Feel on Snow: Medium (6/10)
Rating Score: 90.0/100
Compared to other Men’s Mellow Freeride Boards.
Of the 28 current model mellow freeride snowboards that we tested:
❄️ The Navigator ranked 2nd out of 28
Overview of the Navigator’s Specs
Check out the tables for the Navigator's specs and available sizes.
Specs
STYLE:
MELLOW FREERIDE
PRICE:
$649 - BUYING OPTIONS
Ability Level:
flex:
feel:
DAMPNESS:
SMOOTH /SNAPPY:
Playful /aggressive:
Edge-hold:
camber profile:
HYBRID CAMBER
HYBRID CAMBER - Capita's "Resort V2"
SHAPE:
setback stance:
SETBACK 0.8" (20mm)
BASE:
SINTRUDED (In between sinteded and extruded) Capita's "Powerdrive™ Base"
weight:
FELT LIGHTER THAN NORMAL
Camber Height:
4.5mm
Sizing
LENGTH (cm) | Waist Width (mm) | Rec Rider Weight (lb) | Rec Rider Weight (kg) |
|---|---|---|---|
143 | 240 | 80-130 | 36-58 |
147 | 241 | 90-140 | 40-63 |
151 | 245 | 110-160 | 59-73 |
155 | 252 | 130-190 | 59-86 |
158 | 256 | 150-200 | 68-90 |
161 | 260 | 160-210 | 72-95 |
164 | 264 | 170-220 | 77-100 |
167 | 268 | 180-230+ | 81-104+ |
* the 143, 147 and 151 are considered the women's sizes and have a different graphic.
Who is the Navigator Most Suited To?
The Navigator is best suited to someone looking for a directional board that is good in powder, but can also handle groomers well, but they don't want a stiff aggressive ride. Rather for those that want a board that's not too demanding or fatiguing to ride and has easy maneuverability.
Particularly good for riding trees, with or without powder.
Not for beginners, but a great choice for intermediate riders who want a directional freeride board, but aren't ready or simply don't want a stiff, aggressive one. Also perfectly suitable for advanced riders who want a ride that's more easy going and more on the playful side.
The Navigator in More Detail
O.k. let’s take a more detailed look at what the Navigator is capable of.
Demo Info
Board: CAPiTA Navigator 2024, 158 (256mm waist width)
Date: March 20, 2023
Conditions
Overcast to start. But higher cloud. 85-90% visibility. Towards the end of the day there was some rain.
Temperature was around 2°C (36°F) - and -2°C (19°F) with wind chill in morning and 1°C (34°F) (and -2°C (19°F) with wind) in the afternoon. SE winds morning and afternoon at 10kph (6 mph) morning and 5kph (3 mph) in the afternoon.
24 hour snow: 0" (0cm)
48 hour snow: 0" (0cm)
7 day snow: 4" (11cm)
On groomer: Soft packed and bordering on slushy. But not ultra slow or sticky or anything. Got a touch slushier towards the end of the day, but not by much. Was pretty consistent.
Off groomer: Decent enough. Borderline slushy but not quite. Not ideal but OK.
Set Up
Bindings angles: +15/-15
Stance width: 560mm (22″)
Stance Setback: Setback 0.8" (20mm)
Width at front insert: 270mm (10.63")
Width at back insert: 266mm (10.47")
Rider Height: 6'0"
Rider Weight: 180lbs
Rider Boot Size: US9.5 Adidas Response ADV
Bindings Used: Burton Malavita M
Control Board for Control Laps: Lib Tech Terrain Wrecker
Weight: 2840grams (6lbs 4oz)
Weight per cm: 17.97 grams/cm
Average Weight per cm: 18.71 grams/cm*
*based on a sample size of around 250 models that I’ve weighed in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 & 2024 models. The Navigator was lighter than average on the scales and felt lighter than normal on snow too.
Powder
Nothing to test in on the day, but based on specs, feel and previous experience with the board, the Navigator should be really good in powder.
It's tapered directional shape (with a good amount of taper), setback stance and rocker in the profile all help with powder float.
Carving
The Navigator is decent on a carve. It can get a little washy as you get into higher speed carves, but nothing more than you'd expect for a board of this flex/profile. Overall decent enough.
Turning
Ease of Turning/Slashing: Really nice and easy to initiate turns on and to slash turns. Was a lot of fun to do casual turns on this board.
Maneuverability at slow speeds: Nice and quick edge-to-edge when riding slow. Turns on a dime.
Catchiness: Really uncatchy. Felt like it would be pretty hard to catch an edge on it.
Speed
Decently fast and with good glide. Stable at speed up to a certain point, but feels a little wobbly/chattery once you get it going really fast. As you'd expect for its flex and lightness.
Uneven Terrain
Crud: It's damper than you'd think, given how light it is, but it's not ultra damp or anything - and is prone to getting thrown off in crud/chunder, to a certain extent. But it's not super easy to loose your line and it remains decently stable through messy snow.
Trees/Bumps: One of the better boards going around for trees, IMO. It's nice and quick edge-to-edge, even at slow speeds and would perform well in trees with fresh powder too.
Jumps
Not the kind of board that will blow you away for jumps, but still really capable.
Pop: While there's not oodles of pop in this board, what is there is really easy to access. So you can extract that pop without having to wind it up too much, which I liked.
Approach: A good mix of being fairly stable and nice and easy to make adjustments to your line or speed check, when necessary.
Landing: Solid enough and allows you to speed check easily after you land, if needed. Not a stomper or anything but decent enough on landings.
Side-hits: Really enjoyed it for side-hits. Not ideal for spins off side-hits because of how directional it is, but otherwise, that nice agility and easy access pop make this board fun on side hits.
Small jumps/Big Jumps: It's sweet spot is medium jumps, IMO, and really good for small jumps too. Can handle slightly bigger jumps, but may struggle a bit on really big jumps.
Switch
Transitions to/from switch felt nice and catch-free and it wasn't too bad riding switch. But it did feel a little strange, as you'd expect, given how directional it is.
Spins
Not the best to setup/land switch, though that said, there's no catchy feeling in that setup. Otherwise pretty good - it's light and has easy access pop.
Butters
It's pretty easy to press the tip and tail on this board. The tip and tail do feel different to press, so there's that inconsistency there, but otherwise, pretty easy to lock in presses without too much effort.
Score Breakdown and Final Verdict
Check out the breakdown of the score in the table below.
| FACTOR | Rating (/5) | Weighted |
|---|---|---|
| Powder | 4.5 | 27/30 |
| Turns | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
| Carving | 3.5 | 7/10 |
| Trees | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
| Crud | 3.5 | 7/10 |
| Speed | 3.5 | 7/10 |
| Jumps | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
| Switch | 2.5 | 2.5/5 |
| TOTAL (after normalizing): | 90/100 |
The Navigator is a nimble, light, easy going directional board that is a great choice for someone who wants to be able to take advantage of powder days but when there isn't any fresh snow want something on the more mellow side to explore the groomers and trees with.
Particularly good for riding trees and while it's not a bomber or super aggressive carver, you can lay down some moderate speed carves and it will handle moderately high speeds well enough.
More Info, Current Prices and Where to Buy Online
If you want to learn more about the Navigator, or if you are ready to buy, or if you just want to research prices and availability, check out the links below.
If you want to check out some other mellow freeride snowboard options, or if you want to compare how the Navigator compares to other mellow freeride snowboards, then check out the next link.
Hi Nate,
Thanks a lot for your detail breakdown.
I am around 5’8 and weight 160lbs. But i have a relatively small feet for male (Us size 7, Mondo 250cm). I’d call myself an intermediate rider looking to keep progressing. I’m leaning toward a 155 for Whistler pow days, but i am curious do you think the waist width will be a issue for me consider my feet size.
I read your article about snowboard width sizing and it’s very inspiring. lol, wish i had read is sooner before i brought multipole board which is a bit too wide for my feet.
But as a pow-oriented board, i think the waist size are supposed to be wider to get better float. So i am a bit hesitant, do you think this 155 can be my fit, or should I aim narrower
I’d really appreciate your insight—and thanks in advance for your time.
Hi Chris, thanks for your message.
In this case, if you’d be using it predominantly as a powder, then I think the 155 should be a good size for you.
For a more groomer and/or park oriented board, I’d try to go narrower or shorten the length to compensate the extra width. I would put your “typical all-mountain” length at around 156, but assuming the board was too wide for your feet, which pretty much every men’s board in that length will be (imo), then going shorter can offset the downsides of being too wide for your feet (at least to a large extent). So, for example, if you were going to use the Navigator as a groomer or everything board, then going to the 151 would make sense. But in this case, if it’s to be your dedicated pow board, I think the 155 works.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hey Nate,
Trying to decide between this and the Niseko pleasure for riding mostly long angle pow, any insights?
Hi Kevin, thanks for your message.
If it’s for pure powder performance, I’d say the Niseko Pleasures has it over the Navigator, but only by a small amount. For overall ride feel, I would personally go Navigator though.
Hope this helps
What up Nate! Love the site. Just adding my opinion as a boarder with a ’24 Nav (155). I probably have 20-30 days on this board, and recently demo’d an Orca, so much of my review is based on that comparison.
First and foremost, this is a great all mountain board IMO. It just checks a lot of boxes, and for my favorite style of riding–quick slashing in the trees–it’s close to ideal. Nearly impossible to catch an edge, without being a beginner board.
It has enough liveliness to jump in and out of carves, but not a carving board. It’s got enough dampness to get you through most conditions, but not too stable once you’re cranking the speedometer or in nasty conditions. The edge hold is pretty good.
I’d say this board was good but not great in powder. I thought it would be a touch better. But the one thing about your review that caught my attention was that you put it as a mid-flex. I used to ride a Rossi XV and that deck was stiffer than Drake’s last single (HIYO!), so when I got the Nav I was pretty excited about the new found flexiness. But then I rode the Orca and I was blown away by the additional flex on that. I’m trying to demo a Salomon Assassin later this season, but I heard it described as a “stick of gum” lol.
Keep up the great work!
Hi Leo, what is your body weight and which sizes of the Navigator and Orca did you ride? Did you find the Orca to be much softer compared to the Navigator?
Hi Nate!
Thank you so much for your amazing in-depth snowboard reviews! They have been an in valuable resource for me. I’ve learned so much just reading through your recommendations for folks in the comments as well. Really appreciate this!
I’m a 5’7, 150lb female, and have been riding the Capita BOAF in 150cm for years as my main resort board. I absolutely love it – I find it extremely easy to ride and quite playful. Last year I decided I wanted to try a slightly more aggressive board to progress my riding, and something that would be better in powder. (Whistler is my main mountain, and i’d say i’m an intermediate rider pushing to become more advanced) I opted for the Capita Equalizer in 154. Since I wanted it to be my powder oriented board, I figured I should size up, but I have to say, i’m worried I went too long. It feels stiffer than expected, and I find it quite tricky to navigate trees with. I wonder if I should have gone with the 150? But it seemed silly to get the exact same size as my BOAF if I wanted it use it as my powder board. Would love your thoughts on sizing here! It feels very stable at speed for me, which I love. I can charge really hard on it, but it really burns out my back leg in powder, and feels like a lot of work to turn quickly. I thought it would feel a bit easier/more floaty/surfy.
I’ve been looking into the Capita Navigator this year…it seems like it might be a lot more fun in powdery trees, and I see the longest it comes in is 151 for women. Maybe this is more the board for me if i’m looking for something that can handle those 30cm days at the resort, while still being able to manage other variable terrain lower down the mountain?
Hi Mihela, thanks for your message.
Size-wise, I would put your “typical all-mountain” length at around 152, so while the 154 isn’t hugely longer than that, the thing with going longer is that it means you’re also going wider. And that extra width often has a big effect on how easy it is to turn the board – and can make it feel stiffer – the extra length can do that as well. So while 154 isn’t necessarily too long for you, for a powder board size, it might be the case that it was too long, when combining both length and width.
I definitely get your point re going bigger than what you’ve already got, to go for powder, but it might be the case that it was a little bit too much bigger, when taking into account length and width. So, I like your idea of going Navigator 151. While you’re only going 1cm longer than your BOAF, you’re also going wider, so in terms of surface area, which is important for powder, the amount bigger you’d be going is more significant than it looks. That, plus the fact the Navigator is better setup for powder vs the Equalizer, makes it a good choice, IMO. While you’ll be losing a bit of surface area vs the 154 Equalizer, most of that will be coming off around the tail area, and for powder, you want more surface area in the nose than in the tail. So you should be getting just as much surface area in the front half of the board, but less in the back, which should help the nose to float and the tail to sink a bit, which helps to keep you floating on top of powder, without having to use your back leg as much.
Another thing to consider is effective edge. The Equalizer in the 154 has an effective edge of 120.6cm, so you’re going to feel all of that when not in powder. Going from the 118.6cm of your BOAF, that’s a significant increase in effective edge – which is going to give you that extra stability at speed (so it’s not surprising you found that) but it’s going to make it significantly harder to make short/sharp turns on it. The Navigator 151, in contrast has just 114cm of effective edge, so it should remain nice and nimble on groomers, but powder only really cares about surface area and not effective edge, so having that lower effective edge isn’t going to negatively affect its powder performance, which is why you can often go bigger with more powder oriented boards – because a lot of that length is outside the contact points. That’s not as much the case with the Equalizer, and would go a long way to explaining why you found it that much harder to navigate the trees with (that and the width).
tldr; the Navigator 151 would be a great choice, IMO and should be a better powder option, while remaining more nimble than your Equalizer (sorry sometimes I go a little too far down the rabbit hole in explaining – once I get started it’s hard to stop typing!)
Hope this helps
This is amazing, thank you so much! Really appreciate the thorough explanation. Online sizing guides definitely don’t give you this much detailed information! Stoked to be armed with so much more understanding for my next board purchase. Thanks again!
You’re very welcome Mihela. Hope you have a great season!
Hi Nate!
I learn so much from your snowboard reviews. Thanks for all your efforts into helping the snowboard community.
Your review got me interested in the Capita Navigator. I’m a solid intermediate, but new to trees and powder and want something kinda easy to ride on for the new terrain I’ll be exploring.
Im 5’9- 5’10 and 160+ pounds, and a size 9 wide boot.
Would you recommend the 155 or 158 Navigator for me?
Thanks for all you do 🙏🏼
Hi Noam, thanks for your message.
I think the Navigator should work well for what you’re describing. Size-wise, I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 156/157, so you could go either way. But with size 9 feet, I would go 155. The 158 wouldn’t be huge for you or anything, but combination of length and width, it’s on the bigger side. The 155 would be just right, IMO.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi Nate!
I’m a girl 120 lbs boot size Women’s 8 (it’s around 6,5 in men’s sizes I think, MP255)
Between Capita Navigator 147 and Jones Dreamweaver 149, I think both should perform well enough off piste in snow, but what will be more stable and pleasant on groomers and give me less teeth chattering and better carving/cruising?
I’m getting just one board and I ride off-piste maybe only around 20%, when I have some luck for snow or lust for adventures, rest on groomers of a varying quality. Freestyle is not important, I’ll go with what board allows.
I’m around level 6 intermediate, I prefer to ride slower in general, but want to be able to handle all terrain confidently and comfortably.
Maybe some other options you could recommend me that should fit better?
Hi Margot, thanks for your message.
It’s a close call, I think both would work really well for what you’re describing. The Navigator a little better in powder, but it sounds like you’re not too worried about the difference there, and the Dream Weaver is really decent in powder.
The Dream Weaver is a little better in hard/icy snow. Otherwise, it’s pretty hard to separate them and I don’t think you could go wrong with either. Size-wise, if you could also let me know your height (weight and boot size are more important but I still like to take height into account, as there is a leverage factor).
Hope this helps
Thanks a lot for your help!
I’m 5’6 and I’m more or less sure about my preference of a roughly 146 to 149 length range.
Other options I’m thinking of are Nitro Drop, which is again a quite similar board that’s just a bit cheaper and also Hel Yes or Jones Stratos as more aggressive options. But I don’t want to go fast all the time.
Hey Margot
Thanks for the extra info and for letting me know your sizing preference. Note that the Dream Weaver is a little wider than most women’s boards in that length, but I think the 148 would still be fine, because it also has less effective edge vs overall length vs most. So, the width will make it feel a little bigger, but that reduced effective edge will make it feel a little smaller, so that 148 should be fine if 146-149 is your preference range.
We haven’t tested the Drop but it looks to be relatively similar to the Dream Weaver – certainly in terms of flex, camber profile and being directional but without taper (well 1mm, but basically none), but the drop does have a tighter sidecut. It’s hard to say in terms of effective edge as Nitro don’t publish this (they only publish contact length, which is different), so it’s hard to say there. But it looks to be the more similar option (on paper) to the Dream Weaver and Navigator vs the Hel Yes and especially vs the Stratos.
The Hel Yes is less directional – it’s directional twin (so more or less twin, except for a longer nose than tail and a small setback) but would still work for what you’re wanting. Not quite as good in powder as the likes of the Dream Weaver and Navigator, IMO, but still OK. It’s a little more aggressive than the Dream Weaver and Navigator, but not super aggressive or anything. The Stratos is stiffer and more aggressive than the Hel Yes, in our experience. And more of a directional freeride board.
With the Hel Yes you wouldn’t have to go fast all the time, it still works well at slower speeds, but the Stratos is less fun at slower speeds, in our experience.
I am a intermediate rider looking to buy the Navigator, but I’m not sure if I need 158 or 161. I am 6 feet tall and weigh 185lbs, boot size 10, mondo 280.
The board will be my daily driver all mountain snowboard. Primary use in the resort riding groomers and hunting powder in the trees. But most off the time i ride chopped up powder.
Do i need the 158 or 161?
Hi Robin
Thanks for your message.
I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 160, so you could go either way, but I would be leaning 158, as an intermediate rider. If you were looking to optimize powder float in open terrain, then I’d be more inclined to look at the 161, but given you’ll be in the trees, I would stick with 158. I am similar specs to you (6’0″, 180lbs, 9.5 boots) and I really like it in the 158.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi Nate,
Wanted to say thanks for your reviews. It helped me purchase my Yes. Greats board. I love it, but as you mentioned its not good for pow. Was looking at the Capita Navigator and trying to determine what size. I am a size 10.5 boot, 6′ and 230lbs but have put on a few extra pounds this winter and am usually 210 – 220lbs. This board would be for pow and groomers and wasn’t sure if it makes sense to get the 167 or the 164. Any help would be appreciated. On Union Strata bindings and just picked up Salomon Launch SJ boots.
Thanks
Hi Atish
Thanks for your message.
I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 162 (based on 220lbs). That’s not to say that 167 is necessarily too long, with a powder oriented board you can typically go a little long – and if you were exclusively looking to ride it in pow and not groomers much at all and if the board wasn’t as wide as it is, when it gets to those lengths, then it could be a possibility. But in this case I would go 164. At it’s length and width, it should give you plenty of float but still be fine on groomers. There’s a good chance the 167 would feel a bit cumbersome for you on the groomers, IMO.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hello! Thanks for the review. It helps a lot.
I’m a intermediate to advanced rider, all mountain ride.
I’m 85kg and 1.83mt.
I’m wondering if the 164 would be too big for me but its the only option i have here that would have enough width to my 11 US boots.
The only option I have is the 153 ultrafear capita.
Hi Nicolas
Thanks for your message.
I would put you on the 161, rather than the 164, if you had that option. And the 161 would be wide enough for 11s in most scenarios, IMO. I think 164 is getting on the big side for your specs. It’s doable, but not optimal, IMO. If you don’t have access to the 161 where you are, are you able to order it online? Or wait for the 2024 model. That’s what I would do, rather than get it in a suboptimal size.
Hope this helps with your decision
5’7” 195 lbs size 9 adidas tactical boots.
Looking for which size of navigator to get.
158 or 161 for Tahoe powder. Often in the trees but occasionally hunting for stashies.
Which size do I get?
Thanks!!!
Hi Jon
Thanks for your message.
As a starting point, I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 159/160, based on height and weight. For powder, and this type of board you can definitely err longer, so the 161 is definitely an option and wouldn’t be a wrong choice by any means. But given boot size vs width of board and the fact that your in the trees a lot, I would be erring towards the 158.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi Nate,
I’m 46, 6ft, 105kg and a size 8 boot I’m heading to Japan in about 3 weeks. Its now or never! I can get a good deal on a 161. A 164 would be better but worried it’ll be too wide for my feet. I’m in that big guy small feet netherworld. My other board is a Assassin pro 162 which is pretty stiff but worried about it, even if i set the bindings all the way back. I might be a bit lighter as i’m smashing the peleton!
Hi Wes
Thanks for your message.
I actually quite like the 161 for you. I think the 164 would be a more pure size for your height/weight, for sure. But with 8s and the width of this board, sizing down a bit is a good idea, IMO. So I think you’ll get on fine with the 161. May feel a little softer flexing than I felt the 158, but I imagine it would still feel around 5.5/10 or 5/10 at softest.
Hope this helps with your decision and hope you have an awesome trip to Japan!
Great stuff, i’ll use my cartels on it and i bought Union Atlas for the Assassin Pro. Should be able get it done with those 2. Can’t wait!
Sounds like a good idea in terms of binding matchups. Happy riding!
Hi Nate,
I’m in doubt between the K2 passport 160 or Capita Navigator 158 or 161. I don’t like freestyle and don’t go in a park. I like powder and off piste but there is less and less of that in the alps. So most of the time I board on the slopes. I am 57 years old, advanced rider (for 10 years -one week every year -on a Salomon Ace), 6 ft 2 and 175 lbs Which board do you recommend and why?
And I you recommand the Navigator would you advice the 161 or 158?
Kind regards,
Wouter
Hi Wouter
Thanks for your message.
I haven’t ridden the K2 Passport yet, so I can’t say much there. I think the Navigator would do a good job for what you’re describing. I think the only question mark would be how often you see icy conditions. It’s not terrible in icy conditions, but it’s not amazing either, in my experience. Otherwise it should treat you well if you like the idea of a mid flexing, semi mellow directional board.
Size-wise, if you go Navigator, it’s a close call. I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 160/161, so I would be leaning 161, but it would partly depend on your boot size too, if you could let me know your boot size. I rode the 158 most recently but have ridden the 161 (though it was a slightly different board then). I really liked it in the 158 (similar specs to you) but I like to ride a little smaller generally – and also in the 161 it’s getting pretty wide for a regular width – and I tend to not be a big fan of wider boards. But if you’ve got bigger feet than me, then the 161 could be the ticket.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi nate im a 15 y/o boy who is looking for a snowboard that is good all over the mountain, and was wondering if you think that the navigator is a good choice. i am looking for a board that i can go in the off piste on but still also go in the park and jump. Board size: 147, binding size: M, shoe size: 40EU
i have also been looking at the yes standard and basic, which would you suggest?
kris
Hi Kristoffer
Thanks for your messages.
Navigator not ideal for the park. For everything else I think it would be fine, assuming you’re at least at an intermediate level. Will be fine for jumps, particularly straight air, but not an ideal jumping board, and not great for switch/spins.
The Basic is more the other direction where it’s more park/freestyle suitable. Not great in powder, but does handle trees well – it’s quick edge-to-edge.
The Standard is a really good do-it-all board and I think would be most suited to what you’re describing. Biggest question mark is sizing. If you say your size is 147 and your shoe size is EU40, the smallest Standard (149) is probably going to be too big. It’s a bit wide for your boots and a bit longer too – so overall might be a little big. If you could let me know your height and weight, I would be happy to give my opinion on whether the 149 could work or not.
Hope this helps
so, i weigh around 50kg (110lbs) and im about 165. when i said 147 i meant specifically for the navigator, 149 is around my upper lip. and i double checked my shoe size and its 41 and i may need new boots, but in general size M bindings. since last i have also looked t the jones mountain twin.
thanks for the quick response
kris
so 149 is just above my upper lip so its not really too big, after checking my boots they are actually size 41 and i may need bigger soon, in general my binding size is M. i have also looked at the jones mountain twin. how would you think that board would work. i do enjoy going on side hits and practice 180s and 360s, and practice going switch but the park is not anything i focus on, i only go there a every once in a while. so for me it doesnt matter too much the the board isnt made for the park
kris
Hi Kristoffer
I think the Standard in the 149 is still a bit big for your weight/boot size.
The Mountain Twin 149 is still a bit of a stretch, IMO, but more doable size-wise. Even thought the waist width on the Standard is only 1mm wider, the width at inserts is quite a bit wider, due the mid-bite on that board. Given your probably likely to add weight in the coming years, I think 149 Mountain Twin is within range. I think ideally right now you’d be closer to 145 for length. But given your age, you may outgrow that size quite quickly.
The Mountain Twin is good for side-hits and rides switch well – and you have the option to center it up on effective edge (if you do end up getting it you’ll see on the inserts they have marker a “freestyle” stance and a “freeride” stance. If you go on the “freestyle” stance, it will be all good for riding switch.
Hi Nate,
Thanks as ever for your reviews and taking the time to answer questions.
I’ve been round and round with these kind of boards and keep coming back to the navigator. I’m pretty set on it, but slightly worried about width.
I’m 88kg and a UK size 11. I think I am looking at the 164. My question is, will it be slightly too narrow? Also, I guess 161 is not possible?
Cheers,
Brendan
Hi Brendan
Thanks for your message.
Width-wise, I think the 164 is probably doable, depending on a couple of things. If you have lower profile boots, that would certainly reduce the risk. And your binding angles will also play a part. E.g. with no angle on your back binding – e.g. +18/0 or something like that, and it’s going to increase the risk of drag compared to something with more angle on that back binding (I refer to the back binding and pretty much no one has a flat angle on the front binding and the back insert width on the navigator is slightly narrower than on the front).
I would predict around 273mm on the back insert, assuming a roughly 22″ (560mm) stance width. So with the above things in your favor, I think you’d be OK.
Length-wise, however, I think the 161 is probably the better length for you – but I think it would be too narrow in that size for you – more like 269mm at back insert.
Hope this helps with your decision
Cheers Nate.
I have gone for the 164. I’m used to bigger boards, so not worried about the length.
I usually ride +18/-11 so think I’ll get away with it.
Thanks again!
Brendan
You’re very welcome Brendan. Hope it treats you well. If you think of it at the time let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get it out on snow. Happy riding!
Hi Nate,
Finally had a chance to ride this board last week (after having it for a year!!), so thought I’d share my reflections in case it helps anyone else.
Set up:
Navigator 164, Bent Metal Joint (+18/+6), Nitro Venture Size 11 (UK).
I should start by saying buying the board was a bit of a gamble. I wanted something that was a reasonable all-rounder but would really be elevated if there was some powder around. Unfortunately, for the week we had in the mountains, the weather was dominated by high pressure – lovely sunny days and cold nights, but no fresh snow!
So, I ended up riding the navigator as a more conventional ‘resort board’ but still had a ton of fun. Your review is pretty much spot on 🙂
I did find it took a while for me to dial in turns (maybe due to the slightly larger size?). I even found it a bit catchy for the first few days and not very quick edge-to-edge. As I got more used to it though, I really enjoyed throwing it around and managed to get a modest carve going.
The base on this board is awesome. I got it waxed on day two of my trip and it is so quick! Also super durable, still looks mint after 6 days of riding on pretty hard packed snow.
Managed to hike and find a wee bit of soft, untracked snow early in the trip. There were definite signs of life in the softer stuff and I could feel that lift in the nose. I can see the navigator will likely be great in deeper snow.
I am considering buying a more conventional all-mountain snowboard and keeping this for deeper days, but in the event I can’t manage that before next season I’ll be more than happy to ride the navigator again in whatever conditions. Thanks again for the reviews. Cheers
Hi Brendan
Thanks for the update and the insights. Much appreciated!
Hi Nate! You’re doing great job out there!
I’m struggling with choosing the right size of Navigator for me – 151 or 155. My specs 5’8, 132 lbs, size 9 boot (Ride Trident). Bindings Burton Genesis. Currently riding NS Proto HD 154, but it doesn’t suit to my growing ambitions for freeride and powder 🙂
Could you please help me with this tricky choice?)
Hi Pavel
Thanks for your message.
I can see your dilemma. It is a tricky choice.
If you weren’t currently riding a 154 or if the 151 was wide for your boots, then I would say 151 for sure. I think it’s the more pure size for your specs. The 151 isn’t too narrow for your boots, IMO, but it’s a good width for your boots. If it was wide for your boots, then it would be easier to say go to 151, as it would still be overall a bit bigger than your standard “all-mountain” size. I would put your standard “all-mountain” size at 150-151. If you’re looking to go more freeride/powder oriented, then you can increase that range to like 151-154, kind of thing, unless you’re riding a lot of trees, then keeping things more all-mountain size is a good bet. Hope that makes sense!
The 155 is on the big side for you though, IMO. It’s on the wide side for your boots – and it’s really at the upper limit for your length, IMO. Might be a more “I wouldn’t go there” if you weren’t already used to the 154 Proto HD. Not only is the Proto HD more similar in length and width to the 155 Navigator, it’s got noticeably more effective edge than the 155, so it likely feels bigger than the 155 Navigator.
I think if you’re looking to ride a lot of trees, I would probably still stick with the 151. But if you’re not going to be riding trees that much, I would be leaning 155 – to keep that same surface area for powder, but with the advantages in shape, camber etc that the Navigator has over the Proto HD for powder. In other words, the 155 Navigator is going to be considerably better than the 154 Proto HD in powder, but won’t feel any bigger when not in powder – in fact will likely feel smaller.
The 151 would still, IMO, probably be a little better than the Proto HD in powder, but less noticeably so, given that it has noticeably less surface area. It does have the advantage of being directional, tapered and rocker in all the right places – so I still think you’d get a small bump in powder performance, but not nearly as noticeably as the 155.
Hope this helps with your decision
Dear Nate,
thank you for such a comprehensive reply! That’s really helpful not only for this case, but in general!
What I forgot to mention to make the picture complete. I’ve been testing Burton One Hitter 152 for a few days and it felt a bit strange, maybe cause I was used to Rocker hybrid and it’s a Camber hybrid, or simply because of shape. However, it floated pretty well in deep powder and I assume it’s quite similart to the Navigator, isn’t it?
Hi Pavel
Apologies for my slower than usual response – busy time of year with family and Christmas.
There are certainly some similarities – like effective edge, camber profile and taper.
I haven’t ridden the One Hitter specifically, but I’ve ridden similar Burton boards. And Burton and Capita do tend to feel different even with similar specs. And even based on specs, there are quite a few differences – different sidecut, the One Hitter is quite a bit wider, size for size and looks like it’s likely a little softer flexing.
But yeah, does take some getting used to going between Hybrid Rocker and Hybrid Camber if you’re not accustomed to switching between them.
Hello Nate – Great website & info!
Intermediate rider – Powder, Off-Piste, Groomers, Trees & Carving. I already have a couple of camber boards, but I am wanting an “easier to ride” rocker type for deeper days, on groomers, the trees and general exploring.
Looking for a surfy-fun and semi-loose board. Not too into speed.
Also, I am almost 60 years old, so not looking to get “beat up” out there by a rougher ride. But I do have a K2 Excavator and a Nitro Dropout for harder conditions.
5’10”, 175 lbs, size 10 boots.
Considering the Jones Mind Explorer (154-but concerned about the width with size 10 boots).
Also considering this Capita Navigator (158 or 161).
Any other suggestions and/or, what here would be a good choice for a fun/semi-loose powder/softer snow day ride.
Thanks!
Hi Matthew
Thanks for your message.
The Navigator isn’t super surfy or anything. It’s certainly not a locked in feeling board either. It’s right in the middle. But certainly suitable for what you’re describing, IMO. But if you wanted something looser and more surfy, then something like the Mind Expander would work well. Width-wise, I think you’d be fine on the 154 Mind Expander. Should be wide enough for sure. But the 158 would also work for you, IMO. It’s on the wide side for 10s, but if you’re going to be using it predominantly for powder, I think 158 would work well. But 154 is certainly an option – and particularly if you’re going to be using it more so in trees than open terrain powder.
Hi Nate,
Thanks for the write up, very informative! I’m close to getting this board for myself.
This would be my first directional, freeride board and I’m unsure whether the 155 or 158 is most appropriate at 5′ 11″, 150lbs. I’m enjoying the Capita Scott Stevens at 153 for freestyle and I did have a 155 all mountain (a board which I didn’t particularly enjoy) so the 158 seems like a large leap but I’m finding size chart recommendations for both sizes.
If you don’t mind, I would appreciate your opinion on this.
Cheers,
Max
Hi Max
Thanks for your message.
I would go 155 for your specs. I think the 158 is doable, but it’s on the long end of your range, IMO.
But if you could also let me know your boot size, that would help to confirm that as well.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thank for the content.
Very much liked the article on your site on effective edge.
I’ve been looking at the navigator only because i found it at such a great price with all the sales here in Australia and no one is riding currently
I was thinking I’d go for a 161 as my specs are 180lbs and 11.5 Burton ion boot
I’m just a bit worried about the width at 260mm and float in Japan powder as this is where I ride mostly. Hopefully I can get back there soon
My all rounder board has been a 157w deep thinker which has a waist width of 260mm which has been good as an all mountain charger with a bit of a directional feel. Just not as much taper or setback or length as the 161 navigator.
Basically I want to be able to charge around the groomers and side hits and make sure this has my back if I’m in the fresh stuff in Japan but I’m worried I should look elsewhere for a similar style board with a wider profile. Or would this be ok?
What are your thoughts?
Appreciate your time
Nelson
Hi Nelson
Thanks for your message.
In terms of powder I don’t think you’ll have any issues. I found this board to be good in powder and the specs back that up too. In terms of surface area, you’re still looking at overall more surface area than the 157W Deep Thinker – that extra length and being wider in the nose. That plus the extra taper and my experience with the 160 Deep Thinker, I’d say you’ll get a level up in terms of powder versus your 157W Deep Thinker.
In terms of width at inserts in terms of fitting your 11.5s on it, it’s a little narrower than the Deep Thinker at the inserts. The 161 Navigator should be around 269mm at the back insert (271mm at the front insert). The Deep Thinker 157W is around 272mm at the back insert (270mm at the front insert). The Navigator is a little narrower at the back insert due to the extra taper, mostly. If you’ve never had issues with boot drag on the Deep Thinker, then likely you’ll be OK, but 3mm can make a difference – and boot drag is more likely in softer snow.
But yeah, in terms of powder, I think you should be great with the Navigator, the only real question mark is the width at inserts. In terms of versus the Deep Thinker, you’re looking at a softer flexing board in the Navigator and a more mellow ride (not as aggressive) – a board I’d be happy to have in Japan though.
Hope this helps and hope you get some more riding in this year if your resorts open and hopefully not too long before you can travel to Japan again!
Awesome!
Thanks Nate!
Um just wondering, do you mean 272mm at front and 270 at the back for the deep thinker and not the other way around?
Thanks so much for your input.
Hi Nelson
So, typically with a non-tapered board, if there’s any setback the width at the back insert will be wider than the width at the front insert – which makes sense, since the back insert is set closer to the widest part of the board than the front insert is. With tapered boards, it depends on how much taper and how much setback. Occasionally a tapered, setback board ends up with the same width at both back and front insert – this is when the taper cancels out the setback, if that makes sense. In the case of the Navigator, there is enough taper there that, even though it’s setback 25mm, it’s still narrower at the back insert. In the case of the Deep Thinker, there’s less taper, so the setback is enough on that board to make the width at inserts still wider at the back than the front. Of course it depends on how much you set back to – whether you go to reference stance or setback further. E.g. on the Navigator, if you were to increase the setback, or widen the stance width, then it would be wider at the back insert than if you were to ride on the reference setback and reference stance width.
Sorry! That was a long way to say, yes 272mm back insert on deep thinker and 270mm front insert (based on my measurements of 267mm back inserts and 265mm front insert on the 160 Deep Thinker).
No, thank you!
Thanks for explaining. That makes so much sense now. I don’t know why I didn’t think of that!
Once again, so informative.
All the best Nate
You’re very welcome Nelson. Thanks for visiting the site and happy riding for the next time you get a chance to ride!
Hi Nate
very helpfull review. Could you please give some more information on carving performance. I generally ride off-slope after fresh snowing, but also like carving on slope. My current board is rossignol templar.
Do you have any link navigator carving video
Hi Serhat
Thanks for your message.
The only video I could find of it with someone carving on it was from an older model, when this board was a directional flat-to-rocker profile. It’s not a directional hybrid camber profile – and that camber makes it a better carver than it once was. It still wasn’t bad with the flat-to-rocker, but that camber has given it a livelier carve that’s just more energetic and helps to hold the edge a little better. It’s still not a board that lays down epic big arcing carves – and part of that I would say is the taper, part of it that the camber isn’t super dominant and that it’s not overly stiff. But it can still lay down a carve, but is just on the shorter/sharper carves side versus long drawn out carves. But it’s not something that’s super short/sharp on it’s carves, it’s somewhere in the middle, but just to the shorter/sharper side of the scale, if that makes sense.
Versus the Templar, I would say it’s a little better on a carve. Not massively so, but I would say 3/5 for the Templar and 3.5/5 for the Navigator.
Hope this helps
Thank you, Nate. I have been also evaluating ride commissioner. Since carving and powder ratimgs seems better than navigator, i changed my mind to commissioner
Hi Serhat
Yeah certainly a better carver (I haven’t ridden the Commissioner but did ride the predecessor to it – the Timeless). The Timeless was super stiff. I think the Commissioner is supposed to have mellowed out a little, but supposed to still be quite a stiff board. Just an FYI, in case you weren’t looking to go too stiff. But if you like the idea of going stiff, then yeah, the Commissioner is going to help give you some epic carves.
Hi Nate. Thank you for agood review. I am considering to buy this board. Bought the Kazu Kokubo 157, but I found it too stiff to my taste. Looking for something with a softer flex and more playful for buttering. Do you think this would be a good option? I am 165lbs and 5’11’’, us 9,5 boot size. Would you recommend the 155 or 158. I usually ride boards between 156-158. Thankful for your advice if you have the time.
Hi Anders
Thanks for your message.
The Navigator certainly softer than the Kazu, and easier to butter too. As far as a directional board for buttering goes, it’s pretty good. In my notes on it for buttering, I’ve got that it’s considerably easier to butter than the Kazu – with the Navigator being a 3.5/5 or up to 4/5 for buttering and the Kazu more like 2.5-3.
Size-wise I think you could definitely ride either size. I would probably be leaning 158. And the 158 will still be more buttery than the 157 Kazu but if you wanted it even more buttery, then going shorter would make it feel softer, more playful and more buttery than the 158 and more maneuverable at slower speeds, but it would also sacrifice a little in terms of stability at speed and float in powder.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate
Thank you so much for your advice. I think I will order the 158 then, I’ll post a comment after riding the board.
Thanks again!
You’re very welcome Anders. Look forward to hearing how you get on.
Hi Nate. Just wanted to follow up. I’ve tried the board out now in a variety of conditions, and it’s really been great. Would definately recommend it to others. Happy I went with the 158. Thank’s again for all the advice!
Hi Anders
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
Awesome to hear that the board is treating you well! Happy riding!
Hi Nate,
I’m an intermediate snowboarder who has been snowboarding for the past 10 years, but only 3-5 days a season. Recently I moved to Utah, so I can get quite a few more days in. Looking to get 10+ days this season. Right now I have the 2012 T Rowe Price Art of Flight @157 cm and I feel that it is way too stiff and un-playful for me. My goal is to get a lot more comfortable on my snowboard in all types of Freeride environments, but I don’t want to get a board that controls me, I’d rather control it. I don’t ride switch and prefer to bomb groomers, search for powder, hit small jumps(learning), and navigate trees (learning). I don’t care about riding park (rails, boxs, etc)
I’ve been doing a ton of research on your site and think that I’ve narrowed my search down to a handful of boards, all of which are Rocker/Camber/Rocker. Please help me decide which would be best for my needs:
– Capita Navigator
– Jones Frontier
– Jones Twin Mountain Twin
– Salomon Assassin
*Also for reference, I am 6’0, 185 lbs, and wear a size 11 boot.
Hi Will
Thanks for your message.
Based on the style of riding your describing, I would be leaning to either Capita Navigator or Frontier. Mountain Twin would work too, but since you don’t have much freestyle focus, I think going more directional makes the most sense. Either of those 2 would work well for what you’re describing, but I would be leaning Navigator, just because I found it a little better in trees, personally, a little more maneuverable at slower speeds. Frontier not bad in that respect, but Navigator just a little better, in my experience.
Some other options I would consider would be the GNU Hyperkyarve and Lib Tech Dynamo. However, they are Hybrid Rocker (camber/rocker/camber), so if you wanted to stick with hybrid camber (rocker/camber/rocker), then I’d stick with Navigator or Frontier.
Size-wise, for the Navigator I would be looking at the 158. The only question will be the width.
For the Frontier, I would be thinking between the 158W and 159.
Width-wise, the Frontier 158 is 265mm at the back insert, which is pushing it being too narrow for 11s. It might be doable, depending on a few factors.
a. binding angles. If you’re riding with angles like +15/-15 then it gives you more leeway to go a little narrower, less leeway if you’ve got a flatter angle on the back foot
b. profile of boots – if you have low profile boots, then you can afford to go narrower
c. how deep you carve. If you like to really lean into your carves, then you won’t be able to go as narrow without risking boot drag.
I think for 11s, if you have a good angle on the back binding and have low profile boots and don’t carve too aggressively, then you get away with it, but you probably want to have all 3 of things in place.
For the Frontier, the 159 is roughly 268mm at the back insert, so it gives you a little more leeway, but I’d still want at least 2 of the 3 above to be comfortable with 11s.
The Frontier 158W is going to be roughly 276mm at the back insert, which will be plenty wide enough. It’s just whether it’s on the too wide of things. Opposite to the other size options, if you ride with a flat back foot and like to really lean into your carves, then this would be a good width, IMO.
Let me know if you wanted to also consider something like the Hyperkyarve or Dynamo and I would be happy to give sizing opinions for those too.
Hope this helps
Thanks so much for the feedback Nate! Ok, so I think I’m going to cross both Jones boards off my list. The Capita Navigator looks super sick and seems like it could be a good board for me. I also like that you labeled it as “Surfy Freeride”, I grew up surfing, so if it even kinda feels that way, I’ll be happy.
I just measured my feet yesterday and it looks like they are 28cm. I’m still playing around with binding angles, but am naturally a little bit duck footed, so I’m thinking +18 in the front and maybe -6 for my back foot. Do those seem like weird angles, should I just keep my back foot at 0? With that being said, do you still think the 158 board would work for me?
I read a ton of reviews about people really liking Hybrid Camber, but do you think Rocker Camber would be a better fit for my riding style and needs? If so, I’ll take a look at those other two board that you recommended. What benefits do they have over the Capita Navigator?
Finally, I think that I’m going to replace by boots, any good recs for this particular board? Also, I currently have the Union Force bindings, would those be good for this or should I replace my bindings too?
*thanks for not calling me out when I said “T Rowe Price Art of Flight” I work in finance and it was a late night, I meant “T Rice Art of Flight” haha
Hi Will
haha yeah I noticed that, but knew what you meant!
Firstly, +18/-6 aren’t weird angles at all. I personally don’t like a 0 on my back foot, I like to be a little duck even if I’m not riding a mirror duck (mirror duck is like +15/-15, +12/-12, that kind of thing). If I’m riding a more forward stance, then something like +18/-6 is one of my go-tos. Whatever feels best for you. I think those angles would be fine if you were in a low profile boot and if you could get into a 10.5. Feet are kinda weird and fitting isn’t always straight forward, but if I had to guess, you should fit well in a 10.5 boot, which would mean you should be fine. And if you go low profile at the same time, then I would be confident the 158 Navigator would be good width-wise.
In terms of boots for the Navigator, I would be looking at something around 6/10. 7/10 in terms of flex. Some options here:
>>My Top All Mountain (medium to medium-stiff flex) Snowboard Boots
If you look at the score breakdowns you will see which ones are more low profile. I find with Adidas boots that I can get in 1/2 size smaller (I wear 9.5 in Adidas and I’m typically a 10), so you might even fit a 10 in them.
Union Force would be a good match for any of these boards, so I wouldn’t change those.
Hybrid Camber and Hybrid Rocker is a preference. I like both to be honest. I have boards with hybrid rocker and boards with hybrid camber – and I test a lot of boards with all sorts of camber profiles and I like riding both. Some people have strong preferences for one or the other. Hybrid rocker does tend to give a looser, surfier feel, so if you’re looking for that surfy feel, then I think the Hyperkyarve could be a good bet. That rocker between the feet typically gives a looser feel. The Dynamo only has really subtle rocker between the feet, so it’s more of a stable feel. The Navigator too, is more of a stable feel. It’s not “locked-in” but it’s not “loose” feeling either. Think of it as a scale of loose to locked-in with stable being right in the middle, if that makes sense.
You can check out this list too:
>>Top 10 Surfy (mellow) Freeride Snowboards
I think the Navigator would certainly work well for what you’re describing, but if you did want a particularly sufy feel, something like the Hyperkyarve is worth looking into.
You’re awesome Nate, thanks so much for the advice! I’m getting the Capita Navigator and the Adidas Tactical ADV’s.
Have a great season!
You’re very welcome Will. Hope you have a great season too! If you think about it at the time let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get your new setup out on snow.