Hello and welcome to my Arbor Shiloh Camber review.
In this review, I will take a look at the Shiloh Camber as an all-mountain snowboard.
As per tradition here at SnowboardingProfiles.com I will give the Shiloh Camber a score out of 100 (based on several factors) and see how it compares with other all-mountain snowboards.
NOTE: The 2024 model was the last model of the Shiloh Camber.
Overall Rating
Board: Arbor Shiloh Camber
Price: $549
Style: All-Mountain
Flex Rating: Medium (6/10)
Flex Feel on Snow: Medium (6/10)
Rating Score: 86.1/100
Compared to other Men’s All-Mountain Boards
Out of the 37 men’s all-mountain snowboards that I rated:
Overview of the Shiloh Camber’s Specs
Check out the tables for the Shiloh Camber’s specs and available sizes.
Specs
Style: | All-Mountain |
Price: | $549 - BUYING OPTIONS |
Ability Level: |  |
Flex: |  |
Feel: |  |
Edge-hold: |  |
Camber Profile: | Traditional Camber - but not quite - Arbor's "System Camber" |
Shape: | |
Setback Stance: | Centered |
Base: | Sintered |
Weight: | Felt heavier than normal |
Sizing
LENGTH (cm) | Waist Width (mm) | Rec Rider Weight (lb) | Rec Rider Weight (kg) |
|---|---|---|---|
153 | 250 | 114-194 | 52-88 |
156 | 251 | 120-200 | 54-91 |
159 | 253 | 126-206 | 57-93 |
160MW | 262 | 132-212+ | 60-96+ |
162 | 254 | 130-210+ | 59-95+ |
Who is the Shiloh Camber Most Suited To?
Arbor has achieved a really good balanced snowboard with the Shiloh. It's snappy enough, but still with enough dampness - it's right in the middle flex-wise - that happy medium that allows you to do pretty much everything.
And it strikes a really nice balance of being able to ride it pretty fast, but it's still fun to ride slow. It's fun to open out in wide spaces and carve, but also to weave through tighter spaces.
The only real weakness is powder, but other that it's the definition of do-it-all. Great daily driver option.
Not for a beginner, but great option for intermediate and up looking for a mid-flexing do-everything ride.
The Shiloh Camber in More Detail
O.k. let’s take a more detailed look at what the Shiloh Camber is capable of.
Demo Info
Board: Arbor Shiloh Camber 2022, 156cm (251mm waist width)
Date: April 5, 2021
Conditions: Sunny! Barely a cloud in the sky and felt nice and warm.
2°C (36°F) degrees o°C (32°F) with wind. Barely any wind. 5kph.
24 snow: 0cm (0")
7 day snow: 3cm (1.2")
On groomer: Icy in patches, medium in patches and slushy in patches. Snow quite messy/cruddy. GOt softer and more slushly as day went on.
Off groomer: Icy/crunchy for the most part particularly on particular sections - but certainly not bullet proof and in places started to soften up quite a bit as the day wore on.
Pretty typical spring riding.
Bindings angles: +15/-15
Stance width: 540mm (21.3″)
Stance Setback: Centered
Width at Front Insert: 267mm (10.5")
Width at Back Insert: 267mm (10.5")
Rider Height: 6'0"
Rider Weight: 175lbs
Rider Boot Size: US9.5 Adidas Tactical ADV
Bindings Used: Burton Malavita M
Weight: 3080grams (6lbs 13oz)
Weight per cm: 19.74 grams/cm
Average Weight per cm: 18.43 grams/cm*
*based on a sample size of around 100 models that I’ve weighed in 2019, 2020, 2021 *& 2022 models. The Shiloh Camber is quite a bit heavier than most boards I've weighed. One of the heavier. And you can feel that weight on snow. For some this is a big deal. Others like a bit of extra weight (can help with smashing through crud and not getting bucked around).
Damp or Chattery?
It's not ultra damp, but it's just on the damper side of the middle of the scale.
Smooth or Snappy?
It's not ultra snappy, but it's just on the snappier side of the middle of the scale.
Powder
I didn't get any powder to test the Shiloh Camber in, but based on specs and general feel, I wouldn't say this would be that at home in powder. Like any board, it's going to be fun in powder (I mean come on, it's powder!), particularly in shallow powder.
But not going to be an easy floater in deep powder. There's no rocker in the profile, the stance is centered (of course you could set it back some, and that would help on a powder day), there's no taper and whilst the nose is fractionally longer than the tail, there's not a lot of difference in tail and nose lengths.
It does have "uprise fenders" (3 degrees) at the contact points and Arbor's system camber does mean the camber flattens out towards the tip and tail, and this will certainly help it in powder, but not enough to make it a really good board in powder, IMO.
Carving & Turning
Carving: Really fun board to carve. And has that ability to be fun carving at slower speeds and opening out to a higher speed carve too.
Turning: Pretty easy and fun board to turn - really strikes that nice balance between easy/fun to turn, but also nice to hit more aggressive carves on.
Maneuverability at slow speeds: Pretty nimble when riding slow. Certainly not something that has to be ridden fast to be fun. Not quite as nimble as my control board (Lib Tech Terrain Wrecker) or the Arbor Relapse that I also rode that day, but pretty darn close - and given how well it rides at speed, it's a really good option for both riding slow and riding fast.
Skidded Turns: Didn't feel catchy and you could get away with skidding to some extent. But also not super easy to skid on.
Speed
Whilst not being an out and out bomber, it's pretty stable at speed. Certainly more stable at speed than the Relapse I also tested that day and my control board (Terrain Wrecker) and could open it out to pretty good speeds before it started to feel like it was getting a little twitchy.
Uneven Terrain
Crud: In crud it wasn't like a crud crusher where it just smashed through everything in it's path, but it also didn't get bucked around super easy either. When it did feel like it got bucked a little, it was pretty easy to adjust on.
Bumps: It's nimble enough at slower speeds that you can weave through bumps pretty well and hugs them pretty well too - not to the same extent as I found with the Terrain Wrecker (control board) or the Relapse I also rode that day. But pretty good for its flex. Definitely a board that works well in the trees.
Let’s Break up this text with a Video
Jumps
Overall a fun board to hit jumps and side hits on.
Pop: Good overall pop. You had to put in a little effort to extract that pop, but when you did you got rewarded. And it wasn't super hard to access the pop or anything - you didn't have to throw everything in it to get it to pop, but you had to give it some effort.
Approach: A really good balance between being stable on faster approaches to bigger jumps and being nimble enough to make corrections and for approaching trickier side hits.
Landing: Nice and solid on landings - but forgiving enough that it you didn't get it perfect you didn't get punished.
Side-hits: Good for side hits. Not quite as fun as the Relapse I also rode that day, but the Relapse was really nimble and had really easy to access to pop. The Shiloh isn't hard to access it's certainly nimble enough and has good overall pop, so it was still something that made me want to search out every hit I could find.
Small jumps/Big jumps: Medium to Large were it's forte, IMO.
Switch
Really good for riding switch. It's pretty much a twin between the contact points, so when you ride it with it's reference centered stance it feels natural riding switch.
Spins
It's on the heavier side, which did make getting the spin around a little more of an effort - and the pop is good but does take some effort too - so you've got to put a little more into spins to get the best out of it, but not like throwing everything into or anything, but just not effortless.
But otherwise good to spin and good for setting up and landing switch.
Jibbing
It's not really made to be a great jibber, but it gets the job done when you need it to. It's not something that I feared hitting a box or rail on, but also not something I would get as a go-to for the jib line in the park.
Butters
The Shiloh was surprisingly easy to butter. And really fun when it came to butters.
Score Breakdown and Final Verdict
Check out the breakdown of the score in the table below.
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
POWDER | 2.5 | 7.5/15 |
CARVING | 4.0 | 8/10 |
TURNS/SLASHING | 4.0 | 8/10 |
SPEED | 3.5 | 7/10 |
CRUD/CHUNDER | 3.5 | 7/10 |
TREES/BUMPS | 4.0 | 8/10 |
SWITCH | 4.0 | 8/10 |
JUMPS | 4.0 | 8/10 |
SPINS | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
BUTTERS | 4.0 | 4/5 |
JIBBING | 2.5 | 2.5/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 86.1/100 |
Overall, the Shiloh strikes a really good balance between a lot of different factors, meaning you could do almost anything almost anywhere on this board. Whilst it's deep powder credentials are probably it's weakest point, it's otherwise one of those boards, that you wouldn't be disappointed to have under your feet on any given day, on any given part of the mountain.
If you're looking for a camber dominant do-it-all board that isn't too aggressive and either aren't too worried about powder performance, don't tend to get much deep powder or have a separate board for powder days, then this is a really good option, IMO.
More Info, Current Prices and Where to Buy Online
If you want to learn more about the Shiloh Camber, or if you are ready to buy, or if you just want to research prices and availability, check out the links below.
If you want to check out some other all-mountain snowboard options, or if you want to compare how the Shiloh Camber compares to other all-mountain snowboards, then check out the next link.
Hi Nate
I think I just turn into intermediate level since I have had 3 seasons experience. I would like to buy a “ All can do” snowboard but I am still struggling with, there are too many brand with good quality snowboard.
May I have your assistance to choose one for me in your experience.
I am 5 ft 8 inches, 78 kg, Men. I want to get into some carves, play with terrain and park. I am now using Burton Cartel X & Boot Ion, size 8.5.
Is Arbor Shiloh Camber the best for me, any other recommendations & opinions.
Thank you so much bro !
Hi Henry, thanks for your message.
The Shiloh Camber could work (you’d have to find a ’24 or earlier model, as they aren’t bringing it back in a ’25 model), if you don’t need too much in terms of powder float. If you want something that’s better in powder, then I’d check out something from this list or this list and have a look at the score breakdowns.
Note, from that first list, the only boards I’d be a little weary of as an intermediate would be the Rossignol One and the Capita Mercury.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
Thank you so much, Nate. I still got few questions if you could help, appreciate it !
1. Have you heard about Burton Paramount 2019 ? That’s the one i own now which purchased from second handed market. I am not sure if the function or specs of these two boards are the same.
2. Which size of the Shiloh would you recommend base on my height & shoes size?
3. If compared to Bataleon Thunderstorm, which one do you prefer as a all mountain snowboard except powder ability? Because there are some comments about 3BT snowboard not fit into park & ride in icy condition.
Thank you again, Nate
Hi Henry
Yes, I rode the Paramount (2020 model) and really liked it – you can see my review on it here. It’s a little more technical a ride than the Shiloh and more freestyle focused than the Shiloh. But you could certainly use it for all-mountain with a strong freestyle flavor. Again, not great for powder, but otherwise good, but not as easy to ride as the Shiloh camber. The closest equivalent now in Burton’s lineup is the Freethinker, IMO.
Size-wise, I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 157, but I’d be erring a bit smaller than that with 8.5 boots. For the Shiloh, I would be leaning 153 for you as an intermediate, but the 156 would work well too – if you’re looking to mostly ride fast and carve, then the 156 might be better, but if you want to incorporate some trees and park stuff as well, then I’d be leaning 153.
I really like the Thunderstorm and on a good conditions day, I’d want it over the Shiloh personally, both on groomers and off. And I was happy taking the Thunderstorm in the park. But if it was an icy day, then I’d want the Shiloh over the Thunderstorm. It’s not terrible in icy conditions, but also not great and the Shiloh certainly better, in my experience. If you get icy conditions a lot, then the Shiloh would be the safer bet. If not, then the Thunderstorm would be a really good choice.
Hey I know I’m super late to the party on this but I’m really contemplating the Shiloh rocker or the element rocker as i am currently on the arbor foundation 159mw and I want a board that I can progress with I’m not looking for crazy speed or to carve. I want to get good at flat ground tricks like butters tripods 180 or even the occasional side hit or even going off trail to hit a little pow I do eventually want a pow specific board so that’s not to important but I’m looking for easy riding easy butters and over all just riding with a nice flow
I’m 6foot 260lbs and wear a size 11.5 boot men’s
When it comes to the Shiloh I was wondering would you recommend the 161mw for the style of riding I’m looking into I would say I’m a beginner looking to progress in tricks but not necessarily in the park
Hi AJ, thanks for your message.
I would personally go Shiloh Rocker over Element Rocker. Size-wise, I would put your “typical all-mountain length” at around 165. But given you’re more of a beginner and the style of riding you’re looking to do, I would size down from that. So while the 163MW is probably the more “pure” size for your specs. Given your style and how you want to ride it I would go 161MW. The 157MW would be too small. Although smaller does make it easier to press the tip/tail for butter tricks, I think it would be too small overall for regular riding and certainly for pow – and you’d probably risk it being at a point that you would over flex it when pressing, and have difficulty locking in the press at that size. So, yeah, I think 161MW is the best balance between being easy to press/butter but still being big enough to ride otherwise.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi Nate!
I can’t seem to find alot of reviews about the Shiloh Rocker, only the camber. I can make some assumptions based on it’s profile but do you have an experience with the Shiloh rocker or the Cross Cut rocker? I am looking for something with a different ride than my full camber Burton and wondering if either of these boards might fit the bill.
Thanks for all your great info!
Hi Stephen
Thanks for your message.
I haven’t ridden the Shiloh Rocker unfortunately, so I can also only make assumptions based on the different profile and experience with other Arbor rocker boards I’ve ridden.
Those assumptions are that the rocker vs the camber will likely be:
– not as good on a carve and not as stable at speed – a slightly looser feel. But with Arbor’s sysmem rocker it’s not as loose as you would typically get from a full rocker board.
– better in powder
– not quite as good in terms of edge hold in hard/icy conditions
– not quite as good in terms of pop and jumps in general
– a little easier to slash turns with
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I am looking at the Shiloh Rocker and am trying to decide between a 157mw or 161mw. I am 6’0″, 180lbs, and a size 12 boot. My goal for this board is mostly to have it as an all mountain board, working on riding switch, practicing buttering, and hitting the park every now and then. I have a separate powder board that I would use on heavy powder days. Any recommendations? Thanks!
Hi Cole
I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 160 but I would go 157MW in this case. Even though the 161MW is closer to that length, for how you’re going to use it I would err shorter rather than longer – especially given you have another board for powder days.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I have almost the same question as Evan did above. I am 6ft, 225lbs, (currently losing some weight, plan to get and stay around 210.) and have a boot size of 12/13 (mondo 29.7). I currently ride a Westmark Rocker 161W with Contact Pros and consider myself a high level beginner/low intermediate. I ride blue groomers and like to hit trees and small side hits, however want to improve my riding at faster speeds and carving. I have a hard time committing to speed and carves on the Westmark due to it not feeling very stable. Would you recommend the Shiloh camber as a second board for days I want to practice carving and riding at speed, and would 160MW be a good fit for me? I would most likely pair this board with Vans Aura Pros and Burton Cartels Reflex. Thanks for your advice.
Hi Rob
Thanks for your message.
I think it would be a good option. It will certainly give you more stability and better for carving vs the Westmark Rocker, but at the same time it’s not something that’s too aggressive or hard to ride. That said, I probably wouldn’t typically recommend it for a high-end beginner/low end intermediate, but since you already have another board and this would be specifically for carving and riding at speed, then I think it works.
Size-wise, I think the 160W would work well. I would put your “standard all-mountain length” closer to 162 (assuming 210lbs) but sizing down a touch will help to make it a little more manageable.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hey Nate
Thanks for the review. Why did you go with the 56 and not the 59? I’m 6ft, size 10 Ride Fuse boots, about 180. I ride the Cypress in M/L. Don’t know what I would be more comfortable on. Did the 56 feel short to you, and do you think the 59 will lose the nimble quality? Thanks !
Hi Brian
Thanks for your message.
The 56 was what was available to me, but yeah would probably buy this board in a 159. That said, I’m comfortable on anything from a 56 to 60 for an all-mountain board. The 59 would be less nimble and I do find 3cm is noticeable, but it wouldn’t be enough to make this board difficult to maneuver. It would impact it but it would still be pretty nimble at 159. Between the 56 and 59 you’d feel the 59 little less nimble at slower speeds, a little better in terms of speed and stability at speed, a little better float in powder a little stiffer and a little harder to butter, spin and ollie. All those differences are what I would call noticeable but subtle, for a 3cm difference.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I’m trying to determine what my next step up in the snowboarding world will be. I’ve been reading snowboard reviews for days at this point, and I just need to pick something.
I would say I’m a solid intermediate rider looking to move up in the world. Right now I ride an Arbor Westmark Rocker that I really do like a lot. It’s easy to ride and playful but it’s falling a bit short for me in the areas of high speed and hard carving. I think I want something with a bit more aggressiveness to it for those days I feel like bombing it and laying down a good carve. I’ve never ridden a camber board, though, and I’m worried about over-committing and getting something that gives me a good ass kicking.
I’m mainly a resort rider who spends time on groomers, sometimes in powder and trees, and not much park stuff. I also want to improve my skills at jumping but I couldn’t really care less about jibbing, and if I ever start to care I’ve got my Westmark.
From what I can tell the Shiloh Camber seems like a good choice, as does the Coda Camber. I’ve also been looking at the K2 Instrument.
What are your thoughts on these boards? Anything else you might recommend? Should I just say screw it all and keep riding my Westmark? Please help me end this hell of indecision.
thanks,
Evan
Hi Evan
Thanks for your message.
If you’re looking to get more stability at speed and improve your carving, then I think moving to a board with at least some camber is a good idea. The Shiloh camber will certainly give you a good step up in terms of speed and carving – and better pop too. It’s not as easy to ride as the Westmark and not as playful, but it’s also not ultra aggressive or super catchy or anything like that. It’s a step up, but it still offers some forgiveness. Not great for powder – but if you’re not in anything too deep, it will do fine. But once you get into powder that’s more than a foot or two deep, it will become an effort to keep the nose up.
The Coda Camber is another step up again. It’s a little stiffer. Still doable, but it’s a little less forgiving. Little more of a step up.
I haven’t ridden the K2 Instrument, so not sure there.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi Nate..
I’m 6ft3 and weigh 245lbs with a size 13 boot. I’ve been riding an old 5150 stroke 164wide since the early 2000’s. I ride mostly groomers on the East Coast while trying to keep up with my kids, nothing too crazy. A few 360’s, spins, etc.
Am I too heavy for the Arbor shiloh 163midwide rocker or do I need to go with the Arbor element 166 midwide rocker? Any thoughts on which board is best for my needs/size…
thanks
Hi Tim
Thanks for your message.
I would be leaning 166MW Element Rocker. I think it’s all round the best size for you. But the 163MW Shiloh Rocker is doable, if you’re not really riding that fast. I think you’d prefer the 163MW Shiloh Rocker for spins, but if you’re also looking to ride fast, I think the 166MW Element Rocker gives you a better combination of being able to bomb but not being so big for you that you can’t slow it down and play around.
Mid-Wide is funny in this case too, because these boards are wider at the inserts than most wides – coming in at around 280mm at the inserts for both boards. So I think they should be a great width for your 13s.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
First of all sorry for my approximate English speaking as I am french speaking mainly.
I’m looking to buy a Arbor Shiloh snowboard rocker but i am hesitant about which size I should get.
I am 6 feet tall (about 185cm), I weigh 182 pounds (around 83 kg) and my boot size is 10 ( euro size 43 for example with Vans BRAND or if you want other précisions, I measured my feet which are around 27,3 centimeters).
My snoarboarding level is around intermediate (slightly above begginer as I can go threw Blues and Reds more or less easily).
Looking forward for your answer,
Thanks in advance
Max
Hi Max
Thanks for your message.
For the Shiloh Rocker, for your specs and what you’re describing, I would go 158.
For your specs, I think around 159-161, if you were an advanced rider. But as an intermediate rider, I would be looking more like 157-159. So 158 is spot on. Even if you were more advanced and wanted to go longer, the 161MW would be too big, IMO, when looking at the length and width combined.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thanks for the answer!!
I’ll meditate on that before to send my letter to Santa Claus 😂
😂😂 you’re very welcome. Hope Santa listens!
Dear Nate,
same question, Shiloh or Element. I’m 180cm, 90kg (200 lb). 30 years experience… – + 156 or 159cm (Burton Step on, 9.5).
I’m riding mainly in carving mode, butter or a jump in between for fun + I have follow my son into the trees from time to time…
Thanks a lot
Jan
Hi Jan
Thanks for your message.
I’d be leaning towards the Shiloh. I just found it a better board for carving, but still just as agile at slower speeds. Just as buttery and just as good on a jump – or maybe even a little better.
Size-wise, it’s a tough call between the 159 and 162. Both would work, IMO. The 159 would give you more maneuverability at slower speeds and a bit easier to butter, setup ollies etc, but the 162 will be better for bigger, higher speed carves, stability at speed and float in powder.
Hope this helps with your decision
I’m looking at either getting the Arbor Shiloh or the Arbor Element. Which one do you think would be better? And I am unsure if I want a rocker or a camber, what do you prefer?
Hi Nik
Thanks for your message.
Can you let me know a bit more info.
1. What’s your ability level?
2. Do you prefer to ride more aggressively (deep carves, bombing etc) or more playfully (buttering around, prefer riding slower than fast, etc)
3. Where do you typically ride? A lot of powder? Hard pack? Icy? Do you like to ride trees? Do you ride the park? In the park do you ride jumps and boxes/rails or just one or the other?
Anything else about your riding you can give me would help to decide between them.
Hi Nate,
I’m not ‘nik’ (obviously) but I had the EXACT same question so maybe you could help me out as well?
I am wanting a camber as this is the style of board I grew up on and have always rode.
My ability level is: intermediate to advanced. Took some years off but back into the sport now for the past few years.
My riding style varies, but I like groomers, deep carving, some times playing around, sometimes bombing, in & out of trees, side jumps, but not really a park rider or a lot of jibbing. Haven’t been backcountry or deep powder either. Typically riding out west.
Also physical stats are:
Height: 6’0
Weight: 180 lbs
Boot size: 10.5 Burton Swath BOA
Thanks a lot!
Drew
Hi Drew
Thanks for your message.
I’d go Shiloh for you. Just gives you a bit more for carves/speed, IMO, but still just as good when playing around and in trees and for side hits.
Size-wise, I’d say 159 for sure. With 10.5s it sounds like it’s bordering on being a bit narrow, but it’s wider at the inserts than the waist would suggest. At inserts the 159 will be around 269mm at the inserts, which should be all good for 10.5s.
Hope this helps with your decision
Man, thanks a lot for the advice. This helps out a lot. Any thoughts on bindings? I was looking at Burton Malavita medium, but open to anything equivalent from another brand…
Drew
Hi Drew
I think the Malavita would work well – and you should be good to go Medium with 10.5s. I rode the Shiloh with the Malavitas (they are my test bindings). I also tested the Swath Boa (in 10.5s) in medium Malavitas and they fit fine, so you should be good there. The Swath Boa are a little wider in the heel than other Burton boots, so it was a snugger fit in the heel, but they still fit.
If you wanted to look at others – something at least 5/10 flex and up to 7/10 flex would be your best bet. Something from one of these should work well (within that flex range):
>>Top 5 All Mountain Bindings
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
>>Top 5 All Freestyle Bindings
Nate,
How would compare this to the Yes Typo for east coast riding? I’m looking for something a touch less aggressive and more nimble at slower speeds than my Capita Mercury.
Hi Scott
I would say that the Shiloh is somewhere in between the Typo and Mercury, in terms of aggressiveness. Whilst the Shiloh is all camber, Arbor’s camber, as you probably know, is a little more mellow than traditional camber, and it’s a touch softer flexing than the Mercury. From my experience it’s more nimble at slow speeds than the Mercury.
The Typo is another step down in aggressiveness – it’s actually quite playful. There’s less camber than than both and it’s a good bit softer. I would say Mercury 6.5/10 flex, Shiloh 6/10, Typo 4.5/10. The Typo is also the most nimble at slow speeds of all 3. The Shiloh is better when riding faster than the Typo, IMO.
So yeah, for something that’s a touch less aggressive than the Mercury, the Shiloh would be the ticket – and is more maneuverable at slower speeds. If you wanted to exaggerate that even more, at the sacrifice of a bit of stability at speed, then the Typo is that step further – I would go as far as to say that it’s quite playful.
Hope this helps