Hello and welcome to our list of what we consider to be the Top 5 Freeride Snowboard Bindings.
This list has been updated for the 2023/2024 season.
Each binding is rated on its ability specifically as a freeride binding – not just rated generally as a binding. For example the likes of responsiveness is given higher importance than other factors.
As is custom at SnowboardingProfiles.com each binding is given a rating out of 100 based on several factors.
Comparison Stats
Of the 13 freeride bindings I rated:
Alright let’s get into the top 5!
FREERIDE BINDING #5=
Bindings: Jones Apollo
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CA
Smart rating score: 87.4/100
Flex: Stiff (8.5/10)
Starting off the list at #5, we have the Jones Apollo bindings.
Jones bindings are built off of NOWs tech and utilize Skate Tech and have NOWs great shock absorption.
But it's not just shock absorption that make these great freeride bindings - they are also super responsive and can really handle big carves and bombing at speed, really well - and when you're charging, they are one of the best at absorbing chatter along the way.
Score Breakdown for the Apollo
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
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CARVING | 5.0 | 30/30 |
SLOW SPEED RESPONSE | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 3.5 | 10.5/15 |
ANKLE SUPPORT | 4.0 | 12/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 5.0 | 10/10 |
COMFORT | 3.5 | 7/10 |
BOARD FEEL | 3.0 | 6/10 |
ENTRY/EXIT | 4.5 | 4.5/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 87.4/100 |
FREERIDE BINDING #5=
Bindings: Salomon Quantum
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CA
Smart rating score: 87.4/100
Flex: Stiff (8/10)
Next up are Salomon's Quantum bindings.
A nice stiff flexing binding to bomb the mountain hard and fast with.
These bindings will hold your boots nice and strong, have good shock absorption and enough comfort to keep you riding all day.
But mostly these bindings are excellent for high speed carves and for supporting you at high speeds in general.
Score Breakdown for the Quantum
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
CARVING | 5.0 | 30/30 |
SLOW SPEED RESPONSE | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 3.5 | 10.5/15 |
ANKLE SUPPORT | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 4.0 | 8/10 |
COMFORT | 3.5 | 7/10 |
BOARD FEEL | 3.5 | 7/10 |
ENTRY/EXIT | 4.0 | 4/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 87.4/100 |
FREERIDE BINDING #4
Bindings: Bataleon Astro fullwrap
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CA
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UK/EU
Smart rating score: 89.0/100
Flex: Stiff (8.5/10)
Next we have, at #4, Bataleon's Astro bindings.
The Astro come in two different versions, a full wrap and an asym wrap. The Asym wrap versions come in at a slightly softer flex. But the full wraps are, make no mistake, stiff. And that helps to make them really good for high speed charging.
They also come with heaps of adjustability to get them hugging your boot just right and high-end shock absorption - and all round just quality across all the factors we test for.
Now, I won't go as far as to say they are low price. Bindings in this flex range don't come at a low price, but for this category, they are more affordable, being $67 less than the average price in this category.
Score Breakdown for the Astro
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
CARVING | 4.5 | 27/30 |
SLOW SPEED RESPONSE | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
ANKLE SUPPORT | 4.0 | 12/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 4.5 | 9/10 |
COMFORT | 4.0 | 8/10 |
BOARD FEEL | 4.0 | 8/10 |
ENTRY/EXIT | 4.0 | 4/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 89.0/100 |
FREERIDE BINDING #3
Bindings: Union Atlas FC
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CA
Smart rating score: 90.1/100
Flex: Stiff (9/10)
Coming in at #3 we have Union's Atlas FC bindings.
The Atlas FC are a stiffened up version of the Union Atlas and Atlas Pro. And boy are they stiff! You'd need to be a body builder to get any meaningful twist or pullback out of the high-back.
But just being stiff is one thing, but how that translates into performance is another. And how well you can construct them, so that they are still comfortable and conform well to your boots is another thing.
Fortunately, the Atlas FC have you well covered in terms of high speed charging, but they're also pretty comfortable at the same time, and all round are just quality bindings with no real weaknesses.
Score Breakdown for the Atlas FC
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
CARVING | 5.0 | 30/30 |
SLOW SPEED RESPONSE | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
ANKLE SUPPORT | 4.0 | 12/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 3.5 | 7/10 |
COMFORT | 4.0 | 8/10 |
BOARD FEEL | 4.0 | 8/10 |
ENTRY/EXIT | 4.0 | 4/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 90.1/100 |
FREERIDE BINDING #2
Bindings: Rome Cleaver
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CA
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UK/EU
Smart rating score: 92.1/100
Flex: Stiff (8/10)
In the #2 spot, we have Rome's Cleaver bindings.
Besides being able to handle any level of hard charging, having great shock absorption and really good ankle support, these bindings have ultra adjustability. More than any other freeride binding that I've tested.
Add to all that some really decent board feel and being nice and comfortable and you've got yourself some pretty formidable freeride bindings.
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Score Breakdown for the Cleaver
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
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CARVING | 4.5 | 27/30 |
SLOW SPEED RESPONSE | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 5.0 | 15/15 |
ANKLE SUPPORT | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 4.5 | 9/10 |
COMFORT | 4.0 | 8/10 |
BOARD FEEL | 4.0 | 8/10 |
ENTRY/EXIT | 4.0 | 4/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 92.1/100 |
FREERIDE BINDING #1
Bindings: Flux XV
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CA
Smart rating score: 92.1/100
Flex: Stiff (9/10)
And, finally, the #1 spot goes to Flux’s XV bindings.
The XVs are light, stiff and just respond like a dream - without feeling like tanks at the same time, when you're riding a bit slower.
If you you like to ride hard and aggressive and need something that can power a stiff and aggressive board, and don’t want to compromise on stiffness and response then the XV might be your ultimate bindings.
Typical of Flux bindings, the XVs have a firm locked-in feel with great ankle support. Add to that great comfort and a lot of tool-less adjustability and you have the near perfect freeride binding.
Whilst they may lack somewhat in shock absorption, these babies more than make up for it for that rider looking for the ultimate in response and support.
Score Breakdown for the XV
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
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CARVING | 5.0 | 30/30 |
SLOW SPEED RESPONSE | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
ANKLE SUPPORT | 5.0 | 15/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 3.0 | 6/10 |
COMFORT | 4.0 | 8/10 |
BOARD FEEL | 4.0 | 8/10 |
ENTRY/EXIT | 4.0 | 4/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 92.1/100 |
Thanks for reading
So that’s my Top 5 Freeride bindings. I hope this has been helpful in your search for bindings.
If you’re interested in any of the bindings in this list check out the links under each binding to learn more.
Hello, please tell me. Rome SDS national snowboard 22-23, adidas acerra boots (flexibility 8), Rome National snowboard (flexibility 7), will cleaver bindings fit properly? I choose between bataleon atom (flexibility 8), rome sds black label, cleaver, katana. I don’t know what to choose. I’m just looking mainly at the cleaver, but I’m wondering if it would be too stiff for the boot?
Hi Sergey
I think you could put the Cleaver on that setup. We haven’t tested the National, but assuming the 7/10 flex, the Cleaver should match well. Typically I like to try to either match board flex or go a touch stiffer, when thinking of binding flex. I wouldn’t go stiffer than 9/10 on a 7/10 flex board, but the Cleaver should be fine, IMO.
Got a Fun one I dont think you have ever answer. a challenge… 🙂 I am an older rider and have run Switch bindings since the early 2000’s. yesterday my boot separated ending in a noninjury but spectacular crash. As these have been out of production for over a decade replacing them is a non- option. so it is time for me to go conventional. I am mainly a carver with no park use intended. I am in Michigan so we really don’t have mountains and very little powder mostly groomers. because the vans/switch boot was pretty stiff being a step in I am pretty sure I mm going with a pretty stiff boot but now I am on to the binding. I am about 5’7 145-155 love my speed and have a new K2 excavator 154. It was the first day for it yesterday as well. LOVE the board. I am also glad the boot died on the last run of the day. well with it broke it would be the last one, but we were heading to the car when it gave up the ghost. your thoughts
Hi Odoe
Thanks for your message – and glad the boot separating didn’t cause any injury.
I haven’t ridden the Excavator yet, but it’s supposed to be on the stiffer side, so I think stiffer bindings would be a good idea. And given you like to ride fast and don’t do any park, stiffer is the way to go for your riding style too, IMO.
I would go for something in the 7/10 to 9/10 flex range. If you like the idea of going really stiff, then going up to around 9/10 flex is a good idea. If you think you’d prefer a little forgiveness, you could go as soft as 7/10, but I wouldn’t go any softer than that, given the board and how you like to ride. If you wanted to check out options around that 7/10 flex range, then you could check out this list.
If you wanted to err stiffer, then anything from this list would work well with the Excavator and your riding style, IMO. The only caution I would give, is that since you weigh less than I do, you may find them a little stiffer than I found them – typically the less you way, the harder it is to flex a binding and the more you weigh the easier it is. So, that’s just something else to keep in mind.
Hope this helps with your decision
I have the now O-drives & the Jones Apollo 21-22 models. And after only a few days of off piste riding they both had similar faults. The kingpin separated from the baseplate on the o-drive & the Apollo had fractures across the high back. I’m told by Now Snowboarding they hadn’t seen this for a while but are aware of the weakness. So I got the Union Atlas Pro 22/23 model. These are crazy stiff , paired with my jones flagship, match made in heaven.
Hi Stewart
Thanks for the info and your insights. Glad you have found your match! And yeah they are super stiff for sure.
Hi Nate, thank you for this detailed list! I am researching bindings to pair with my Jones frontier and am debating between the Burton Cartel X and the Union Atlas. Which would you recommend? Thanks!
Hi Tate
Thanks for your message.
There’s not a bad choice between them, but some differences to consider:
– Cartel X has a little more board feel
– Atlas has a little more adjustability – one of the big differences is the ability to do micro-stance width adjustments
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
Thanks, probably just going to base my purchase off of the best price I can find. One other question- For a size 11 boot, would a L or M binding be better in your experience? I have heard mixed opinions, especially with burton bindings. Thanks!
Hey Tate
With an 11 I would go L for Atlas for sure. I’ve had 10.5s in Union Ms but it’s been pretty close – you might get lucky with an 11 but you’d risk not fitting into it. I would go L for Atlas.
For the Cartel X, it depends on your boot. If you have Burton boots or other low profile boots, then you’ll likely be fine in an M, but would still fit fine in the L too. I can’t do Burton in an L, it’s just too big for my low profile 9.5s, but I imagine an 11 would fit fine in the L. But if you’ve got Burton or other low profile boots and wanted that snugger fit, I think you’d likely (no guarantees) get in the M. Depending on the width of your board, sometimes the L can be advantageous – i.e. if your boots fit just as well in the M and L, then having the L on a wider board does give you a subtle leverage advantage. I’d go with best boot fit as the first, most important thing, but if it’s a tie at that point, then it depends on the width of the board.
Hey Nate! I’ve been riding the Jones Airheart this season and really hate the bindings I have on it…I get very little response which is really difficult when I do steeps or aggressive riding. The Airheart is a stiff board so I would really love a pretty stiff binding to go with it. I’ve been considering Flux XVs, Flux GXs, and Burton Lexa X’s but not sure which to choose…do you have a suggestion or advice on any other ones I should consider? Thanks so much!!
Hi Sophia
Thanks for your message.
I would be leaning Flux GX, to get that really good response, without going oppressively stiff. The Airheart is a stiffer board, but the XVs are really stiff and I think would be too stiff for the board, so I’d go GX first. The Lexa X would certainly work as well, and they’d be my second choice. Between the GX and the Lexa X, the Lexa X is a little more comfortable and have better shock absorption, but for ankle support and response the GX are better – and given that response sounds like it’s your biggest thing, that’s what I would be leaning towards. Between the GX and XV as well, the GX are designed for women, so they are likely to fit your feet/calves better. But to confirm, if you could let me know a little more info that will help with a more accurate recommendation:
1. What’s the size of your Airheart?
2. What is your weight? (people who weight less feel gear (boards, bindings and boots) relatively stiffer to people who weigh more)
3. What is your boot size? (just want to check that the board isn’t too wide for you, which may be part of the response issues you’re having)
4. What bindings do you currently have on the Airheart?
Hope this helps
Hi Nate, I just started riding again on a GNU Antigravity, but I’m still using some older Burton Custom 4×4 bindings. I don’t mind how the bindings function, but I’m in my 40’s now and am curious about bindings that might offer a lot more shock absorption for my knees, back, and to reduce general fatigue. I’m planning to look at Remind insoles for my boots, but are there any bindings you think would make the ride even more cushy?
I love the site and am in awe by how much great content you’re creating!
Cheers
Hi Nick
Thanks for your message.
Burton bindings tend to have good shock absorption, in my experience – but not sure how old your Custom’s are – and also ideally you’d want something a little stiffer flexing for the Antigravity. Probably not as stiff as this list though, I’d be looking at something 6/10 to 7/10 for the AG. Custom bindings more like 4/10.
But yeah, generally Burton and Union tend to have good shock absorption. If you wanted to step the shock absorption another notch, then NOW/Jones bindings are the most damp/shock absorbing that I’ve tested.
Some options in that 6/10 to 7/10 flex range.
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
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Hope this helps
Thanks Nate, much appreciated. I hadn’t checked out the NOW offerings before, looks like a unique system with a lot of dampening. Cheers
You’re very welcome Nick. Happy riding!
So I ended up going the tried-and-true route and ordered a pair of Cartel X based on their reputation and your review 🙂
Super excited. I have an older K2 Eldorado 168 as well that I’ll use them with alongside the AG.
It’s awesome to realize the relationship between binding flex and board flex. I could really feel the older, softer Burton Customs “flexing-out” on the stiffer AG when trying to muscle it around now that I’m thinking in those terms. Can’t wait try a modern, stiff binding with this board!
I think those old customs will be just right for riding a soft, rocker board next season…
Hi Nick
Thanks for the update. Let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get on the Cartel X.
Hi Nate,
I’m really appreciating the Cartel Xs so far. Great overall design, plus the heel-hammock and ankle straps are pretty great. It was a little hard to assess them initially because I’ve noticed an increase in heel-lift with my Photon Boa boots as they break-in – especially when I practice riding switch with less-correct technique (compared to regular). I’ve managed to correct some of the lift with foam donuts (32 boots heel-lift kit) taped to the outside of the liner around the ankles. Unfortunately Burton’s J Bars are unavailable anywhere right now. Do you have any resources you would go to for heel-lift solutions? I think my skinny ankles are main culprit 🙂
Grateful as always, and really happy my setup is feeling really cohesive and rideable. Thanks
Hey Nick
Thanks for the update. Appreciate it. And glad to hear your liking the Cartel X so far.
In terms of heel lift, the only thing I really know that works is J Bars. I haven’t used 32’s foam donuts, but from what I can tell they should do the same thing. If you have more of them you could try doubling up on the foam donuts. Or if you’ve already done, so maybe even try tripling up. If what you’ve done with them so far has managed to help – thickening it up might help to give you a little more heel hold.
Hey Nate! Thank you for all your reviews it’s very helpful.
I’ve just bought Burton FA, I have my old binding ride rodeo, i didn’t try it together, but probably it’s very soft for this board.
Which binding would you recommend for FA?
I like carving and backcountry.
Hi Ilya
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, Rodeo too soft for the FA, IMO. I’d look at something around the 7/10 to 8/10 flex range. You could go stiffer too, like some of the stiffer bindings on this list, but that would be the range I would go with for the FA. But if you really wanted to go for that extra stiffness, then you could certainly match something like the XV or Atlas FC to the FA. One thing, if you could let me know your weight. I would err a little stiffer for a heavier rider and a little softer for a lighter rider, after matching with the board.
If you do want some great 7/10 flexing options, also check out my top 5 all-mountain-freeride bindings.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate, thanks for the reviews. I know it takes up a lot of time. I was wondering when you will have reviews for the 21/22 line? I ride a Donek thats 10/10 stiffness and love to freeride/eurocarve. I had Burton Cartels on them but its too soft and I broke both ankle straps.
Hi David
Thanks for your message.
I typically try to release 1-2 reviews per week, starting mid-late April for the new gear I’ve tested. So 21/22 reviews will start coming out soon, but will keep coming over the rest of the year.
Yeah, definitely something stiffer in your bindings if you have a board that stiff, for sure! I would go with something 9/10 to 10/10 in terms of binding stiffness. From this list I would look at the Now O-Drive, Union Atlas FC or Flux XV.
Thanks for your reply Nate. I really like the flux xv but I cant get used to the gold color… Upon my research I found the Ride A10. What are your thoughts on those? How would it stack up with this list?
Just curious, what boots were you in when testing the above? I’m wearing Burton Driver X boots
Hi David
Yeah, it’s unfortunate about the Color. The 2020 model colorway was better and it looks like the 2022 model will be offered in either a gold or a black colorway, but unfortunately the 2021 is only the gold.
Boots were Salomon Lo-Fi for all but the XV, which was Vans Infuse. But the Driver X would be a better match with these bindings, IMO.
I haven’t tested the Ride A10 specifically, but on paper it’s certainly a match. I have ridden the Ride C6 – and I wasn’t blown away by them, but also there wasn’t anything bad about them. The A series are a bit of a step up, so that would make a difference to the quality. I would say that they would certainly be a good match flex-wise.
Hi Nate,
I love your reviews and use them a lot to help choose gear. I really appreciate your passion and detail in what you do. Thank you!
I have a question about bindings. I have a Yes Optimistic as well as an Arbour Shreddy Kruger. I need a new set of bindings and want something stiff to match the Yes Optimistic. I have demoed the Flux TM John Jackson 2018 bindings and loved them with the board. However I loved the sound of your review on the XVs above. But I am really open to suggestions. The XVs are also proving tough to find down here in Australia. I actually like the sound of the XFs on your review but wondered whether they may not be stiff enough for the optimistic .
About me – I have worked a couple of snow seasons in Canada and the US but more recently try and get over to Japan when I can (we have 2 kids under 2 so this has been hard recently). I love going fast and carving, hitting the powder but also would like to be able to enjoy some slower days with some chilled turns etc (especially given I know have kids and a wife to spend time with on the slopes).
I like Flux bindings and I am leaning to one of either XV, XF or TMs but I am open to other brands if you can recommend. I have only really used Burton Missions previously.
I wanted to add: I would greatly appreciate your recommendation for any brand of bindings that you think would suit my two boards. I enjoy going fast, tree runs and slashing / surf style turns when taking it easy on slower days. Thanks in advance Nate 🙂
Hi Geoff
Thanks for your message.
2 kids under 2 – that’s hard work for sure. I have a 5 year old and 2 year old – and it’s a little easier now, but when they were 2/3 and 0-1, was definitely challenging!
I think for the Optimistic, the XVs would be ideal. But given you also have the Shreddy Kreuger, which is softer from what I can see (not a board I’ve ridden), then going with something like the XF would certainly work. The TM would certainly work too – being, IMO, in between the XV and XF in terms of flex. Assuming you can find the TM (2019 was the last model they made of the TM).
Certainly anything on this list would work well with the Optimistic, IMO. It’s just whether they’re a little stiff for the Shreddy Kreuger, depending on how stiff you find that board to be. Something like the XF – or anything from the following list – would be good in between options. I think since you rode the TM and liked them, that going Flux makes sense, but there are other really good options there too.
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
Other option would be to go with something stiff for the Optimistic and keeping the Missions for the Shreddy Kreuger.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thank you so much! Great advice.
Haha yes the kids keep us on our toes but I’m glad to hear it gets a little easier. I can’t wait to get out on the slopes with our boys. I was literally just watching the new Travis Rice movie with my eldest and he kept asking me when I was going to take him to the snow.
I can still get the TMs here in Australia. In fact I can get the 2018s or 2019s. The 2018s are more expensive which seems strange – was there a downgrade from 2018 to 2019? I notice you did a review of the 2019s and they sound great. I can pick them up at the moment for $287 AUD which is a great price. The new John Jackson XFs are on sale for $380. He must have gone to the XFs from the TMs? So the TMs are about $100 cheaper.
I literally can’t get the XVs right now but could wait for the new ones to arrive. I won’t be riding for a little while. I would love to go our next winter (July 2021) but it may not be until the next Northern hemisphere winter – I am aiming for Japan 2022 (if COVIS permits!).
In terms of riding the missions for the Shreddy – they actually broke – they were second hand ones from when I was in Whistler which was in 2008! So I will need a pair of bindings that work with both. It is definitely a lot less stiff than the Optimistic. I am leaning towards the TMs or the XFs then. Can you see a downside to ordering bindings that have been discontinued? For example, replacement parts or do you think it shouldn’t make any difference. Sorry for all the questions – I haven’t really invested in a good pair of new bindings before and I want to make sure I make the right decision given I don’t get an opportunity to go and demo equipment very easily. I live up on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland Australia. We live a long way from the snow!
Sorry I realise my message has jumped around a lot!
Thanks again Nate – your website and advice really are a fantastic resource.
Hi Geoff
Yeah certainly different challenges with the kids as they get older, but overall a little more sleep and they become a little more able to do things for themselves, which makes things a little easier overall.
Odd that you can get the 2019s cheaper – there wasn’t any downgrade there, so yeah, I would go 2019 if you go with TMs.
Shouldn’t be too many issues with the discontinued TMs. Particularly if it’s just a couple of season’s old, like 2019s. Parts for the likes of the XF and XV should still be compatible.
After reading up on them today on your reviews, I am almost leaning towards the XFs now. Slightly more forgiving as I don’t get to ride frequently. They will also suit the Shreddy Kruger better. Do they have any better shock absorption than the TMs or are they the same in your opinion? That was something I noticed after landing off small jumps etc – the TMs were a lot harder landing. I realise both will have poor shock absorption but wondering if the XFs have any more.
Also do you think the XFs will still be able to drive the Yes Optimistic well enough for carving etc?
Thanks Nate 🙂
Hi Geoff
I think the XFs will still be enough to drive the Optimistic. Again, I think ideally something a little stiffer, but as a good balance between the Optimistic and Shreddy Kruger, the XFs are a good middle ground, IMO.
In terms of shock absorption, I didn’t really notice any difference in that respect between them.
Thanks so much for your help Nate.
I am thinking of going with the Union Falcors after you mentioned that any of the boards on that list could be a good intermediate. Reads like a similar flex to the XFs but a little more shock absorption.
My only issue now is sizing. I have read it is usually good to go down a size when you are in between sizes. I am a size 10.5 Ride Jackson boot. According to the sizing guide this means a large binding. I ride a 151 Optimistic. Do you have an opinion about which size to go with based off my size, board width and boot?
Thanks again Nate and I’ll let you know how I go when get the new bindings. You provide such a great service, I recommend your reviews to others over here in Aus.
Hi Geoff
No guarantees, but with a Ride Jackson 10.5, I think you should be fine to get in the Medium. I find with low profile 10s, I can get into Union M with plenty to spare. With non-low profile 10s, I’m at the limit of an M (last hole on the toe strap). Ride boots aren’t the lowest profile going around but they’re also not the bulkiest – they are more low profile than average, so my guess is that you’ll be OK. But no guarantees.
I think the M would go better with the 151 Optimistic, just because the footbed is quite long on the Falcor. But I do think you’d be able to squeeze the Large on there, if you didn’t want to risk going M binding-wise.
I’m not at home right now, but I do have some 10.5s (not Ride boots – I have a Ride 10) that I can try in my Falcor M and see how they go. They aren’t quite as low profile as typically Ride boots, so if they get in OK, then I think you should be fine in the Jackson’s. Will try to remember to try them on when I get home and see how they fit.
Hi Geoff
Just tested some 32 10.5s in the M Falcor and fit fine with some room to spare. The boot measures 31.2cm long. The Jackson 10.5 is probably a similar length. Maybe a couple of mm longer, but I still don’t think you should have any issues in the M.
Thank you so much Nate! I really appreciate the extra effort of testing out your 10.5 boots in the bindings!
I called up the store to see if I could get the mediums but they said they don’t actually have any despite listing them on their website. They tried a pair of 10.5 rides in the large union falcor bindings and they said it was a little loose side-to-side (laterally).
It looks like I literally can’t get a pair of mediums in Australia right now. I am guessing the 2022 ones will be in soon.
However I expect them to be full price so I may reconsider the XFs or TMs. They are such a good price and I have just booked in a trip to the snow in August.
Thanks again Nate, you are so helpful – for someone like me who can’t go and try on gear at the moment it is a game changer. Thanks, Geoff.
You’re very welcome Geoff. If you think of it, let me know what you end up getting – and hope you have an awesome trip in August!
Hi Nate, I got the TMs. They were by far the cheapest at $250 (Aussie dollars). I have tested and enjoyed them with the optimistic so they are a known entity.
Thanks once again. Take care and have a great season!
Hi Geoff
Good call – and nice price! Hope you have a great season too, when yours comes around.
Hi Nate. What’s your height, weight, and foot specs?
Hi James
Thanks for your message.
Height: 6’0″
Weight: 180lbs (give or take 5lbs)
Foot size: 27.3cm
Boot size: Depends on brand – usually a US10 or US9.5
Hi Nate.
Which one do you perfer for 2020 Salonmon Assassin Pro? Just picked up one
Hi Deskins
Personally I would actually go a little softer flexing for the Assassin ProAssassin Pro. It’s not a soft board, by any means, but more medium stiff (6.5/10 by my feel).
Personally I would go with one of the following for the Assassin Pro:
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
But if you want your bindings stiffer than that, then I would go either X Base, Ultra or XV, assuming you’ll be doing some kind of freestyle sometimes on the Assassin Pro – mostly because those 3 have good board feel, despite their stiffness. All the bindings in this list are great though, and if board feel isn’t a big deal for you, then anything here, if you’re looking for stiff bindings.
But yeah, personally I would go for something off the other list as a better match for the Assassin Pro.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
How was your experience with adjusting the high back on the Burton Xbase? I have read a few complaints online with regards to adjusting the forward lean. I currently have a pair of Malavitas that I’m using for my YES Jackpot and Arbor Annex though thinking I might want a stiffer pair of bindings for the Annex.
Thanks
Hi Adal
Thanks for your message.
I don’t remember having any issues with adjusting the forward lean on the X Base, but I can’t remember if I even adjusted it or not.
I would say you don’t need to go that stiff for the Annex (could do if you want to, but wouldn’t have to) – assuming you’re just looking at Burton, you could also look at something like the Genesis X, if you’re worried about the X Base’s forward lean.
Hope this helps
Thanks Nate!
Perhaps I’ll just stick with the Malavitas.
You’re very welcome Adal.
The Malavita would certainly work on the Annex. Ideally a little stiffer, but they certainly work.
Hi Nate,
I am 50 years old and 245 lbs. I have been snowboarding in the 80’s and starting to get back into it. I put 2 seasons behind me and getting back to a decent level (intermediate). My style is carving, going pretty fast (not like I used to) and some back country. No park riding or jumps do to potential injuries, age and weight. What bindings would you recommend for my style of riding that are direct and easy on the knees? I am a wanna-be Ryan Knapton. Any boots that you would suggest that are very comfortable to fit my needs? I am looking to upgrade my board to a 27cm waist size in the near future. My current size boots is 9.5 K2 Ryker (normal size 10.5), bindings Burton Freestyle 13 and board Ride Manic 161cm. All gear just to get back and see if I enjoy riding. Boots hurt & bindings feel sloppy. Now I am looking to get the proper gear. Any advice would really help me. Thanks.
Hi Jason
Thanks for your message.
From your style, I think going with relatively stiff bindings is the way to go. Certainly the Burton Freestyle are likely to feel way too soft for what you’re doing. As an intermediate rider, I would probably be tempted to look at something with a little more forgiveness than what’s on this list, but if you feel that you’re keen to get something really stiff, then the bindings on this list are great options. For some options that are stiff enough, but with just a bit more forgiveness, also check out:
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
Bindings with a canted footbed can be easier on the joints, including knees, so that might be one thing to consider. I think the Union Ultra and Salomon Quantum on this list have canted footbeds. But also I would look at shock absorption – and the NOW bindings (O-Drive on this list) are the best I’ve ridden for that. If you didn’t want to go as stiff as the O-Drive, there’s also the NOW Drive, which is a little softer (but still 7/10 flex). But also check out the shock absorption in the score breakdown’s for more.
In terms of boots, I would check out the following:
>>My Top All Mountain (medium-stiff flex) Snowboard Boots
>>My Top 5 Freeride Boots
I wouldn’t say the Ryker were as soft as the Freestyle bindings, but for what you’re describing, you could definitely go stiffer. In terms of comfort in boots, a lot of that comes down to how well they fit (too tight and you can get pressure points and/or cramping, too loose and you can get cramping and/or a sloppy feel) and what you’re feet are like. What’s comfortable for me, isn’t necessarily comfortable for you, because everyone have different feet. But checkout the score breakdown of the boots above, to see what I found comfortable, to give you some indication. Also, you should find out if you have wide feet or not. If you do, then going with a wider fit boot will help too. For more on fit etc, check out:
Sizing Snowboard Boots: The Different Brands
Wide Snowboard Boots for Wide Feet
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this detailed response. You don’t know how valuable this is to me. After reading many of you articles and reviews, I think that I need to step it a notch down on the stiffness. I am going to get the 2020 Union Falcor bindings and Adidas Acerra 3ST ADV, if they fit well.
I was just curious what board you would recommend? I am 6.0 feet tall and was thinking of the 2020 Burton Flight Attendant 168cm or the Yes Pick your Line. Am I going in the right direction? What board is closest to the Donek Knapton Twin that you tested? Or do you think that is again too aggressive for me? Thank you for all the help.
Hi Jason
I think that’s a good call on the boots/bindings, once you can tell if the Acerra fit well. They are nice and low profile boots too, so that gives you more leeway on those deeper carves, which is a good call, if you’re looking to emulate Knapton.
I haven’t tested any Donek boards, so I’m not familiar with the Knapton Twin. Just looking at the specs, I wouldn’t say that the FA or PYL are necessarily that close to the Knapton twin though, as it looks like it’s a twin shape and the FA & PYL (and any of the boards in this list) are more directional. If you are more looking for a carving twin, rather than a directional board like this, then you could also check out:
>>Top 5 Aggressive All-Mountain-Freestyle Snowboards
If you do go with PYL or FA, then 165 would be a good size for PYL, IMO, and the width should be plenty for deep carving, if you end up rocking a 9.5 Acerra.
For the FA, 168 is just a little longer than what I might recommend, partly because you describe yourself as intermediate, but it’s doable. Again, the width should be all good there with 9.5 Acerras.
Nate,
I just read your Driver X Review along with your 2020 Top 5 Free Ride Bindings Review.
I am Currently running Driver X’s & Burton Diode EST’s, I have have only ran these two together, but on several boards. Overall I am happy with the setup for my for groomer bombing & freeride over the last couple years, although they are on the heavier side.
My question lies in that I am picking up a locally built Powder board, giant shovel, swallow tail, & 4×4 mounting.. The Diode is discontinued, and I have heard of the 2020 X-Bases breaking their Ti hardware.
So what would you recommend for a binding between a Driver X and a stiff 175 board?
Flux XV? X-Base? Union Falcor? One of the other Top 5 Free Ride Bindings?
Thanks, WB
Hi Wilkie
Thanks for your message.
I would go for something like the XV or X-Base (or something else from this list) over something like the Falcor. If it’s a really stiff big board like that, I would personally want some stiff/responsive bindings to drive it. Haven’t heard of X-Bases hardware breaking, but that’s not to say it isn’t a thing.
Hope this helps
hello nate, Which bindings do you think would work best with the Burton Custom X snowboard between Burton X Base, flux xv and Nitro Machine?
Hi Catalin, see my other message for my comments on the X Base and XV.
I don’t test Nitro gear currently, so I can’t really compare the Machine. On paper it looks like it would be a good match, but can’t give you any first hand experience on that.
ciao nate, which do you think would work best with burton custom x, flux xv or burton x base ?
Hi Catalin
I think the X Base is probably the best option, in EST, that way you’re going to get the best connection with the board, using the Channel system. But the XV would do a really good job too – and if you wanted to save a good bit of money, the XV would be a really good match, IMO.
thanks for the answer, the budget is not a problem so i will go to burton x base if you think that it would work better!
Hi Nate,
could you maybe make a quick comment on how the burton X-Base compares to the union falcor in terms of response and feel?
Im considering to get either one for my Custom X and powder board (Burton fish). I would get the Est-Version of the X-base and I get a good deal on them – they are actualy a little cheaper than the falcor.
I currently have a diode Est. I tried them with the cartel highbacks but they are a little soft for bombing for my taste.
But what I hate most about them is the weight – they are heavy af. So I like to get some bindings with good response but are lighter.
Im just worried that the X-base could be too over the top response wise and that I maybe would be missing the hinge-tech.
Any thoughts?
Hi Flo
The X Base and Falcor have a similar response, I would say, maybe the X Base a touch more. The X Base is certainly stiffer though. I haven’t weighed the X Base so I don’t have exact figures to compare but both are very light. They both have very good board feel. You don’t loose anything there with the X Base even though they’re stiffer. And the EST version will have even more in that sense over the Re:Flex model. So yeah really good board feel as most Burton bindings do. But Falcor good in that respect too – with that minidisc really helping.
I think if you were just pairing with the Custom X and wanted all the power, response and bombing you can get, then the X Base is probably the best choice. But I think the Falcor would work better overall, if you were going to use them on both the Custom X and the Fish.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thx alot for your quick answer. I pulled the trigger on the X-base. Mainly because of the good deal and out of curiosity 😉
Also I like the EST- System for the convienince it provides.
I never really understood how a binding can offer you the same level of response but still be softer or stiffer though. I can understand the feeling of the back in the day stiff as hell onepiece baseplates who acted like a cask but still would provide you just about the same repsonse as a modern relativly flexy binding because you couldnt really move in them. But with todays bindings I really dont quite get this distinction since they all allow you to move to a certain extend…
Anyhow I hope its stiffness is not too over the top.. i guess Ill just have to try it…
Is the X-base stiffer than the union ultra FC?
Otherwise Ill try to make some frankenbinders again to get as close as possible to a binding that I like – or I ll just sell it again 😉
Well, I will report back as soon as I had a chance to ride it.
Hi flo
Nice one! Would be awesome to know what you think once you’ve had a chance to ride with the X-Base.
I don’t really know the physics behind it, but sometimes I find that a binding just feels more forgiving, particularly at slower speeds, but is just as responsive and solid when bombing and carving hard even with a slightly softer, slightly more forgiving feel. I think it also depends on the board too. I think if the board is ultra stiff, then you probably get more out of the stiffer bindings. Like a binding with 10/10 flex vs a binding with 8/10 flex on an 8/10 flex board, maybe you don’t get as much benefit out of the extra stiff bindings, but maybe on a 10/10 stiff board, the 10/10 stiff bindings might make more of a difference.
I would say the X Base just a touch stiffer than the Ultra FC overall, but not heaps in it.
Nothing wrong with a good pair of frankenbinders, especially on Halloween!
hello nate, I have 175 cm height and 80 kg what you recommend burton custom x 156 or 158?
Hi Rico
Assuming from our earlier discussions that speed is your biggest concern and if you’re going for a board like the Custom X, then riding fast/aggressive should be your style (or else it’s the kind of board that could be too much, if you were wanting to ride more casually) – then I would say go 158 for your specs.
thanks again for the answer, i bought burton custom x after the conversation with you, what links would you recommend? I have a union falcor that I used on the flight attendant, do you think it would work on custom x or would you recommend something more rigid?
Hi Rico
The Falcor could work on the Custom X for sure. Perhaps ideally, something a little stiffer. But what I would do is try out the Falcor and see how you like it. If you felt like you needed something more to drive the Custom X, then I would look into stiffer options then. If you love the combo, then you can save some dollars on new bindings. But yeah, this would be the list to look at if you do go for something stiffer. Ideally, I would say around 9/10 in terms of flex.
thanks for the answer, so i will do!
Hey Nate,
Currently looking at getting the X Base reflex for my jones mountain twin. There’s an end of season sale so they are actually super cheap at the moment so that takes the cost factor out of the equation.
I currently have Union Atlas bindings but the flex underfoot I don’t like. I used to rock cartels and o like that flex under foot way better.
Do you think the X Base would be too stiff for it?
Will be riding it mostly in resort pow and back bowls in Japan. I’d like to think I’m fairly advanced rider. Hard to find reviews on these things!
Cheers
James
Hi James
Thanks for your message.
Personally I probably wouldn’t put bindings that stiff on the Mountain Twin (maybe I’d put them on the Ultra Mountain Twin, which is quite a bit stiffer). I think the Genesis X Re:Flex or Cartel Re:Flex would be better options. Awesome that you’ve found them cheap but you want the best setup for you/your board. Without having actually tested that particular combination I couldn’t say for sure, but my guess is that they would be stiffer than ideal in that setup.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thanks Nate, yeah that’s what I was thinking.
Also, how do the Genesis X compare weight wise with the Cartels and also the Union Falcors?
Hi James
I haven’t weighed the Genesis X or Burton Cartel unfortunately. The Genesis X felt about normal in terms of weight when I rode with them. But based on the weight of my Malavitas vs the weight of Union bindings in general, I would say that the Genesis X are likely a little heavier than the Falcors. I have 2017 & 2019 Malavitas – the 2017 Malavitas weigh 900 grams (for one binding including screws and disc) and the 2019 version 880 grams. The Falcor’s I weighed were 780 grams.
Hi Nate,
great reviews that I appriciate!
I run a Union Falcor with my Kazu Pro and Korua Apollo and am really happy with them.
Currently I have got an BX-board (SG Force) and would like to carve with it at some positive stance (27/9 or similar) and do occasionally Giant Slalom. Do you think the Flux TM or XV would better suit this board?
The main consideration against the Falcor is that, firstly the highback can not be rotated… secondly I hope the Flux would have even better responsivness and better ankle support. Could you confirm that from your experiance?
Would there be a big difference between TM and XV? It is really easy to get the TM cheap (at less than 200 Euro) but XV would cost double…
Thanks in advance!
Hi Joe
Thanks for your message.
I haven’t done any Giant Slalom but certainly for carving, I think you’d get a touch more response from the TM and little more again from the XV vs the Falcor. Not by heaps, but a little. And certainly a bit more in terms of ankle support in my experience. I think from what you’re describing, the TM or XV would be a little better vs the Falcor.
Between the XV and TM, there’s certainly a difference, but it’s not huge, IMO. The XVs are lighter and more comfortable overall. But the response difference is minimal – it’s there, but very subtle. So it would really depend on your own cost to benefit preferences. If you wanted to get every last bit of performance out of your binding, then the XV is going to give just a little more. But if you’d prefer to save a bit of money for still really good performance, IMO, then the TM probably has the greater cost-to-benefit in this case.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate.
Im riding a Nidecker Megalight and my boots are Ride Insanos.A friend is selling me his 2017 Union Ultra FC for a good price.Three things worry me.
The shock absorption (as im an older rider with some knee injuries and broken bones) ,the not so supportive ankle strap and the missing of canted footbeds.I m used to really supportive ankle straps and canted bindings.The second can be solved by changing to a better anklesrap but the canting issue is vital.
Any tricks to make a DIY canted footbed to calm all my worries?
I love responsive bindings and i want them so bad.
Thx in advance.
Hi Lakis
Thanks for your message.
The 2019 Ultra FC ankle strap is supposed to be more supportive, if you could get hold of one of those.
Can’t think of anyway to make the footbed canted though. There might be a way, but not one that I know of, sorry.
Great review and appreciate the insights provided. Keep up the good work.
I’m aggressive rider who loves speed and carving, based on the above would you say the Flux XV 2019 bindings are right me.
Would it be possible to recommend an associated boots as well.
Thanks
Hi Michael
Thanks for your message.
If speed and carving are your main things, then yeah the XV would be a great option, IMO.
Check out the following for some good boot options:
>>My Top 5 Freeride Boots
>>My Top All Mountain (medium-stiff flex) Snowboard Boots
Hope this helps
Nate, thank you for posting these thorough reviews and esp. for responding to the questions. Super helpful!
I’m in the market for a powder board and freeride bindings.
I’m 5’6″, about 160 lbs, and I ride a 151 Gnu Riders Choice—love it. For the powder board, would you recommend I go up in board size? Someone told me that you should size-up if you’re getting a non-powder board that you’d like to sometimes take into powder.
For the freeride bindings, I’m having trouble finding options with canting, which is important to me since I had ACL surgery a couple years back. Is this a brand-specific feature? Could you recommend brands/models to look at?
Hi Raymond
Thanks for your message.
Yeah typically going a little longer for a powder board – and same for getting a non-powder board that you sometimes take into powder. Usually powder-oriented boards have a shorter effective edge vs overall length (usually because of a long nose) – so when riding on hard pack, the effective edge is what you feel but when you get into powder, the overall length comes into play. The exception to this rule is if you’re going for a short/wide. These are usually made for powder, but they get their surface area from being wider, rather than longer – they are still typically tapered, have rocker in the profiles, setback stance etc, to make them better in powder as well, but in terms of surface area the width is where they get it from, rather than the length. If you could give me some specific boards that you’re thinking of, I could give you my opinion on sizing for powder for your specs.
In terms of bindings with canting, quite a few brands offer canting but usually not universally across their range. In terms of freeride bindings with canting, from this list, the following have canted footbeds:
– Salomon Quantum (2.5° of canting)
You could also check out this list, which are also great for freeriding, but just a little more forgiving:
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
In that list, the following have canted footbeds
– Union Falcor (3°)
– Arbor Cypress (1.5°)
Some other options are Ride Capo (comes with their standard (2.5) wedgie I think which I’m guessing is 2.5°), Ride El Hefe (I think this comes with both a Standard and 4.0 Wedgie – but not sure – the later I’m guessing is 4° of canting) – I think most if not all Ride bindings have their “wedgie” footbed. Also something like the K2 Formula C (3°)
Hope this helps
Nate, awesome intel! I’m replacing some very old Burton Custom Freeride bindings (loved them btw) that sit on a classic K2 Eldo. Love to carve and rip down the mountain … (+30,+15) stance. Flux TM, XF, other?
Hi Mike
Thanks for your message.
If you want a stiffer, more locked in kind of ride, then something like the TM would be a good bet. If you want just that bit more forgiveness/board feel (slightly softer flexing and slightly shorter high back), then the XF would be better. If something with a bit more forgiveness is what you’re looking for (but still relatively stiff/responsive), then check out:
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
Which has the XF, there.
But yeah, if you want really stiff to really rip down, then something from here, like the TM would be a great choice.
Hope this gives you more to go off
Have you had a chance to test out the Jones Apollo bindings this year? I ride a Flagship which is amazing and I’m wondering if Jones bindings would compliment my setup.
Hi Josh
I do plan on riding some Jones bindings (2020 models) this spring, but unfortunately I didn’t get on any Jones bindings for the 2019 models.
Based on specs alone, without knowing how they feel to ride, they look like they’d be a good match for the Flagship.
Hi Nate
Having taken your reviews to heart, early this year I abondoned my ancient K2 zeppelin and bought a Slash ATV. I board in Europe for only a week a year and have been doing so for probably 20+ years now. Generally hoof it down groomed slopes as fast as I can; bit too old (48) to make an arse of myself in parks or off piste. Broke my ankle in March (last day of the hol thankfully) so naturally I’m blaming my cruddy old bindings as opposed to irresponsibly enjoying the awesome speed of the ATV way too much. The Flex bindings sounds pretty peachy. What do you reckon, the XFs or XVs?
Contrary to what my long suffering wife thinks, I’m definitely going back next season. After all, nobody likes a quitter.
Hi Craig
Thanks for your message.
Good to hear you’re going to be back on the board next season (and glad that you’re injury was on the last day of your holiday and not your first!).
I think Flux would be a good choice for sure. In my experience they provide good ankle support, and you’ll probably appreciate that after your ankle injury. And yeah going for something that has good response and a good bit of stiffness is a good idea to match the ATV. I would say the XF are just a little more forgiving and softer than the XV (and a bit cheaper too). But they still have great response and support. I’m probably going to actually move the XF into my “all-mountain-freeride” list for the 2018-19 season, because I rode them again this season and I think they’re better suited to that category – and I think I’ll probably drop their flex rating just a touch too – probably 7.5/10.
I think both would certainly work – if you wanted to really go for that really stiff feeling, then the XV is the better choice, but if you want just that little bit of movement/forgiveness, then the XF. The XF were one of my favorite bindings to ride this season (along with the Union Falcors – but for you I would go XF as they are a bit better in terms of ankle support). But then I do like something that offers a bit more flex, so for your purposes, you might like the stiffer feel of the XVs.
Hope this helps with your decision, and hope you have a great next season and continue to enjoy the ATV, and hopefully even more so with new bindings!
Hi!
Have you guys tried drake radar bindings ? As far as i can read about them they seems like a very good bang for your buck pair of stiffer bindings, but there isn’t that much information I can find about them. would love if you guys would have any experience of them.
Hi Marcus
Haven’t tested any Drake bindings so can’t really say for those, unfortunately
Hey Nate! Thinking of pulling the trigger on the Flux XFs – only concern is the shock absorption. Is it really that bad?
I have some old Ride Contraband bindings (they finally broke) that seem like they don’t have that much padding for shock absorption either but I don’t know how they compare.
Anyway, any thoughts you might have would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers!
Hi Andrew
Thanks for your message.
I couldn’t say for sure, because I never tested the Contrabands, but just from a bit of research, I’d say they would be similar. The XFs aren’t terrible there – there is some padding – but not that much in the heel and the footbed is quite hard rather than being cushy. I think this does give them better board feel though, than they’d otherwise have – so there is an upside there.
I’ve had Flux DSs for a few years now and I don’t notice it now that I have boots with good shock absorption. I did use to notice it before that but usually most noticeably after a long park session or after a long day – by the end of the day just feeling the vibrations a bit more than I might on a long day with a more shock absorbing binding.
If you’re not likely to get in the park that much or if you have good shock absorption in your boots, then it’s not a huge deal, IMO.
Hope this helps
Nate! You are the man – that was super helpful.
My park days are long gone – I mostly charge powder/groomers nowadays and the way you described it sounds they will be just fine!
Thank you much for all the research you do!
See you out there.
-Andrew
You’re very welcome Andrew. Hope you have an awesome season!
Hi Nate,
Thanks for all your work and reviews. I am an intermediate rider that gets out 10-12 days a year. I hit groomers and glades if the snow is good. I don’t do park.
I’ve been doing some research and I’m leaning towards one of these 3 bindings. Note, I just got done with the KEY Formula which were good but I didn’t love them.
1. Arbor Cypress
2. Flux XF (worried they might be too stiff?)
3. Burton Cartel (seem to check off a lot of boxes)
Thanks!
Hey
Thanks for your message.
I don’t demo Arbor bindings but the Cypress sound like they would be the right flex level – but I couldn’t give any more details than that.
The Flux XF is quite stiff and maybe a bit stiff for an intermediate level – but they do provide good board feel despite being quite stiff. If you haven’t already you can check out my review of them at the link below.
~ Flux XF Review
I think the Burton Cartel’s would be the best bet (or the Arbor Cypress but I’m not sure). They are a good flex level for an intermediate level and are just all-round great bindings – especially for the price.
>>Burton Cartel Review
Since the K2 Formulas have what I would say is a mid-stiff flex, then going for medium flex might be your best bet – so that would be Cypress or Cartels. Though the XFs would still probably feel better than the Formulas just because I found them to be more comfortable and have better board feel and better ankle support.
But overall, I think the Cartel’s are your best bet.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thanks for the reply! Anything else from Flux that you would recommend (I like the feel of their binding) or any other binding you think I would enjoy?
Hey
I think you’d like the Flux DS. They have a mid flex, maybe slightly leaning towards the soft side of medium – around 4.5/10, I’d say. They would be a great choice for an intermediate rider – and are great at any level – I own the DSs. The other option would be the RIIs. They will be a little bit softer again – maybe 4/10. Or there’s the TMs – but they are probably more like 7/10 – so getting on the stiff side again.
I think the DSs would be a good match for you.
Hi Nate, I am reading your test reports with interest and your experience help a lot finding new bindings. However, so far I could not decide for a new binding. First some words about my riding style. I would consider myself as an experienced rider and have increasing fun on strong carving. However, I am also doing some small freestyle stuff, 180s and 360s on small kickers, changing to switch and also some buttering. Grinding very rarely and only on boxes and bigger kickers are not my favorites and if there is some snow I don’t say no to off pist. I know that there is now binding fulfilling all of these requirements, but I think that a stiff binding can also be used for small freestyle tricks, but a soft binding makes no fun for carving and freeride. I try to find a very stiff (maybe the stiffest) connection to the board ( with Driver X softboot) and I found the Union FC and Flux XV, both reviewed by you. The main difference seems to be the boot support. However, I have no clear idea what that meens. Does a high boot support give a stiffer feeling for carving ( I hate it when my heel lifts inside the boot or the boot lifts inside the binding) and would you say, that this is a property I should focus on? The Union FC is about 120 $ cheaper as the Flux XV at the moment and would be my my choice, if the properties are similar.
Thanks and regards, Malte
Hi Malte
Thanks for your message.
Boot support (at least not the way that I define it) shouldn’t affect the response of the binding and the boot support rating that I use doesn’t reflect boot lift inside the binding. Basically what this boot support rating is, is how much ankle support there is. Some people prefer to have a lot of ankle support – either they just like the feeling, they have ankles that are quite skinny or aren’t very strong or have ankle problems. I think most people probably prefer a bit more ankle support which is why I score higher for bindings that have good ankle support. But some people prefer their ankles to have a bit more freedom – in this case boot support won’t matter or you might even prefer less boot support. And for someone with strong ankles, this probably doesn’t matter too much either.
Hope this makes sense and answers your question
im looking to maybe upgrade my bindings. looking for something more freeride! i currently ride on burton malavitas. and to be honest i like them. ive not seen u mention the malavitas at all. but i would compare them closest to the cartels(would i be right or wrong). what differences if any would i notice from changing to burton genesis or x-base? thanks
Hi Phil
Thanks for your message. I like the Malavitas too – just not quite as much as the Genesis or the Cartels. To me the Malavitas are kind of like the Cartels but also a bit like the Genesis – just a bit more freestyle based. I actually have a review for them in the works – just not finished or published on the site yet.
I like the Genesis a bit more than the Malavitas and I you get a touch more response out of them – but I definitely wouldn’t say they’re freeride bindings. They don’t have that kind of response. I would say that the Genesis are all-mountain leaning on all-mountain-freestyle and the Malavitas are more all-mountain-freestyle, if that makes sense.
If you changed to the X-Base you would notice a much bigger difference in stiffness and response compared to the Malavitas – going to the Genesis I think you would notice it but it would be a more subtle difference.
Another option which might suit you well – assuming you want to stick with Burton, which isn’t a bad idea at all, especially since you know that you like them (and Burton’s bindings are pretty consistently good), would be the Genesis X. The Genesis X is a stiffer more responsive version of the Genesis. Not quite as stiff but just as responsive, IMO, as the X-Base – but not quite as pricey. You get all the awesome-ness of the Genesis but in a stiffer more responsive model that’s more suited to freeriding.
Check out the link below for my top 5 all-mountain-freeride (in between all-mountain and freeride bindings) which I consider the Genesis X to be.
~ My Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride bindings
Hope this helps
Union FC? Thoughts?
Hi Sean
I definitely rate the Union FC – They’re only not in this list because I have categorized them in a different category – “All-Mountain-Freeride”. Just because they are great as both all-mountain bindings and as freeride bindings. You can see them in my All-Mountain-Freeride list in the link below – or at my full review at the 2nd link.
~ Top All-Mountain Freeride Bindings
~ Union FC Full Review
So that would work as a freeride binding or as an all-mountain binding, IMO.
Hi Nate,
Trying to decide between Burton Genesis X, Burton X-Base and a pair of last years Burton Diode’s. Response is key but also appreciate comfort. Any advice?
Hi Matthew
I think any of those would work and are probably similar but not the same in terms of response and in terms of comfort. It’s unfortunate that they have stopped making the Diodes this year because they were awesome. If you can find a pair of those that might be your best bet, because you should be able to get them for the lowest price.
The Genesis X are probably just that little bit softer flexing than the other 2. I’d say that they are an 8/10 flex, whereas the X Base is more of a 9/10 with the Diode’s being a 9/10 or even 10/10.
Overall I’d say that the Genesis X would be slightly more comfortable (mainly due to the canted footbed that the Diode and X Base don’t have) than the Diode and X Base and the Diode and X Base being slightly more responsive – but only subtly so. The X Base are probably the lightest of the 3. I’d say the order of responsiveness would be:
1. X Base and Diode
2. Genesis X
And the order of comfort would be
1. Genesis X
2. X Base
3. Diode
Personally I’d go Genesis X but that’s mostly because I like a little bit of forgiveness even for freeriding. But if you like your bindings stiff and the response is the most important thing then the X Base or Diodes – in which case I’d go Diodes, just because you should be able to get them considerably cheaper. But if you have no budget concerns, then the X Base will probably give you the best of both worlds in terms of response and comfort.
So I have just recommended all 3! Hope this gives you more information to go off anyway.
Hey there, lady rider here who’s resorted to using guy gear for the most part since they just don’t seem to make female gear aggressive /responsive enough for some of us. A little history; I was been riding the libtech TRS for three years now, and I love it. I have it in both regukar width (for the guys) and narrow (for the ladies). Frankly, I still prefer the guys line even though I have tiny feet (size 23.5). It’s jus more stable, and has significantly more pop. That being said, I’ve accompanied the board with bent metal bindings and love them. Super stiff and responsive, however, since I do have small feet, the fit isn’t ideal since they are a men’s s/m. My question is; do you have any recommendations on ladies bindings that can hang? I was sold on the Rome katanas, and they just aren’t as responsive, and the high backs I feel are way too soft for bombing. Thanks in advance for your opinion!
Hi Laura
I would look into the Flux GX and the Burton Lexa. These are the stiffest/most responsive women’s bindings I know of. Check out the link below for my list of the top 3 women’s freeride bindings. I could only find enough to make a list as a top 3 – there really is a lack of stiffer/responsive women’s bindings.
>>My Top 3 Women’s Freeride Bindings
Hope this helps
Hey Nate
Has the x-base changed much form 2015 /16 to this years 2016/17 model.
Cheers brud
Hey Jim
The 2016/17 model is very similar (virtually identical) to the 2015/16 model. The same bindings really for all intents and purposes. If you can find a good deal on 2015-16 model go for it.
Thanks mate. yep got last seasons for 1/3 cheaper. Your top 5 helped greatly. Cheers
Hey Jim
You’re very welcome. Let me know how you like them when you get a chance to ride them. Have an awesome season!
Hello Nate. I haven’t seen a any “step-in” binding reviews. What is your take on the step-ins from flow (or others)? I am intermediate-advanced free rider (never in the park) with wide feet looking to purchase the a frame arbor and ride trident boots. I ride in the northeast and CO (when i can get out there).
Hey Nick
To be honest I haven’t put any focus on step-in/speed-entry/rear-entry bindings for a while. The only reason being that I need to limit my focus somewhat because I only have so much time, not because I have anything against them.
I did own a pair of low level flow bindings for a while and, compared to other bindings I’ve owned and demoed, they weren’t great. But, as I say, they were low level Flow bindings and aren’t a comment on their higher end bindings (and also the bindings I had were 2013 models so they may have improved those since then).
I might try and get on some more high end Flows and GNUs (who also do that type of binding) this season so I can see how they’ve changed since I last tried them, but sorry I can’t be of more help at this point.
hey Nate, is the 2015 Rome Targas worth getting for 80.00 less than the 2016? or spend extra for the 2016?? thanks
Hey Ari
Personally I’d go with the 2015 model because you’re saving quite a bit. There usually isn’t that much difference in tech from one year to the next – just some tweaks usually. This definitely makes a difference over 2-3 seasons but not usually that much over 1 season unless there was some major breakthroughs for that particular model. I don’t think the Targas changed that much between 2015 and 2016 so I’d go with the 2015
Do you test these out yourself or just look at specs? I’m just wondering how you decide on so many pairs of bindings. how would the union t-rice or atlas or the ride capo’s didn’t make the list? these all seem like powder bindings rather than freeride.
Hi Paul
Thanks for the message.
My reviews and analysis take into account my own testing, analysis of the specs and analyzing other professional reviews and user reviews. By taking all these different things into account I get a more accurate picture. I could just test them and give my personal view based on nothing else but my style, ability level and physical characteristics would make that a bias test. So I like to look at all the angles.
I haven’t tried the Atlas but I am looking to get a chance to test them this winter as I have heard good things. This list is always evolving as I test more but this is my top 5 from the ones that I have done.
I’m not sure of your meaning of freeride and powder. Everyone seems to have a different view of these. If you can clarify what your definition is that would be great. In my view these bindings are great as powder and freeride. You can check out what I consider freeriding to be at the following links. I’m interested to know what your definition is.
~ 6 Broad Snowboarding Styles
~ Freeriding vs Freestyle
~ What is freeriding
Hope this answers your questions
Hey Nate,
Big footed rider with toe/heel drag issues sometimes. Is there a significant difference between the footbed height of the Ride El Hefe and the Flux DM? Could the canting or the dampening of the El Hefe help avoid some of that drag? Or are they pretty much consistent?
Thanks!
Hi Dixon
The El Hefe might have a marginally higher footbed but nothing significant. I don’t see how the canting or dampening would affect toe and heel drag. Toe and heel drag is typically caused by a snowboard that is too narrow for your boots. If you pick the right sized bindings for the snowboard then the bindings shouldn’t have any effect on toe and heel drag except something with a thicker footbed that raises your feet higher above the board.
Ideally you want to set up your bindings so that they are from edge to edge on the board but not overhanging at all. I know that you can adjust the heel and toe on the baseplates of the DMs to help get that fit just right.
Learn more about finding the right sized bindings at the link below.
~Binding Sizing
Hope this helps.
Any thoughts on the NOW Drive or O-Drive?
Thanks for all of the insight!
Hey Adam
Thanks for your message.
Unfortunately I don’t really know anything about NOW gear so I can’t comment there. Sorry I can’t help more on that.