Hello and welcome to my list of the top all mountain snowboard boots for women for for the 2022-23 season.
The following 5 boots have been assessed on a number of factors that I consider important for women’s all-mountain boots. And, as always, they have been given a score out of 100.
Comparison Stats
Of the 14 women’s all mountain boots that I rated:
O.k. let’s get going with the top 5!
WOMEN'S ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #5
Boot: Vans Luna Ventana Pro
- CA
- UK/EU
Lacing System: Traditional Lacing (with Boa)
Flex: Medium (6/10) - but 5/10 to 7/10 depending on what you do with the tongue stiffeners.
Rating: 85.0/100
Starting off the list at #5 we have the Vans Luna Ventana Pro boots.
The Luna Ventana Pro features Vans' "Flex Control System" which consists of removable tongue stiffeners that allow you to stiffen up the boots with the tongue stiffeners in or leave them out - or have one in each boot to either increase lateral or medial stiffness.
The Luna Ventana Pro also feature a really cool lacing system, where you have traditional lacing to allow complete control over where you tighten the boots and also a BOA which acts on a harness that wraps around your ankle, to help increase your heel hold.
Score Breakdown for the Luna Ventana Pro
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
RESPONSE | 3.0 | 15/25 |
COMFORT | 4.0 | 16/20 |
HEEL HOLD | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 3.5 | 10.5/15 |
TRACTION | 4.0 | 8/10 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 85.0/100 |
WOMEN'S ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #4
Boot: K2 Estate
- CA
Lacing System: Double Boa
Flex: Medium (6 out of 10)
Rating: 86.1/100
The #4 boot for this list is the K2 Estate.
If you’re someone who wants to ride the park, the backcountry and the groomers and don’t want separate boots for separate occasions, then the Estate’s (and everything on this list, of course) are a great option.
They have that great ability to be really shock absorbing and comfortable but at the same time offer plenty of performance, response & traction.
The second boa on the Estate's controls the heel hold on the liner - which is great for tightening the liner on the fly and for getting great heel hold - but there is only 1 boa for the whole of the outer boot, which impacts it's adjustability. But if you don't need that adjustability, then everything else about this boot is right up there.
Check out the Video Below for More About the Estate
Score Breakdown for the Estate
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
RESPONSE | 4.0 | 20/25 |
COMFORT | 4.5 | 18/20 |
HEEL HOLD | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 2.0 | 6/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 4.0 | 12/15 |
TRACTION | 4.0 | 8/10 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 86.1/100 |
WOMEN'S ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #3
Boot: Ride Karmyn Zonal
- CA
- UK/EU
Lacing System: Double Boa
Flex: Medium (6 out of 10)
Rating: 88.9/100
Coming in at #3 are Ride’s Karmyn Zonal snowboard boots.
Unlike the Estate above, both of Karmyn's BOAs work on the outside of the boot - one for the upper section of the boot and one for the lower section of the boot, giving more control over how you want your boot to fit.
Across all relevant factors the Karmyn are just all round a quality pair of snowboard boots.
Score Breakdown for the Karmyn
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
RESPONSE | 4.0 | 20/25 |
COMFORT | 4.0 | 16/20 |
HEEL HOLD | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 4.0 | 12/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 3.5 | 10.5/15 |
TRACTION | 4.0 | 8/10 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 88.9/100 |
WOMEN'S ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #2
Boot: Burton Felix
- CA
- UK/EU
Lacing System: Double Boa
Flex: Medium (6 out of 10)
Rating: 91.1/100
Next up, at #2, we have the Burton Felix boots.
With the Felix boots, you are going to really appreciate the response you’ll get when your on the steeps or anywhere you want to be charging hard. But they’re also flexible enough that you can still ride casually or playfully.
The Felix are super comfortable and highly adjustable so you can get the fit just right. They have great shock absorption to add to that comfort – and for landing jumps & tricks and reducing chatter in rough snow.
For More Details Check out the Vid Below
The Felix comes in at around 4:42
Score Breakdown for the Felix
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
RESPONSE | 4.0 | 20/25 |
COMFORT | 4.5 | 18/20 |
HEEL HOLD | 4.0 | 12/15 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 4.0 | 12/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 4.0 | 12/15 |
TRACTION | 4.0 | 8/10 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 91.1/100 |
WOMEN'S ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #1
Boot: Vans One & Done
- CA
Lacing System: Double Boa
Flex: Medium (6 out of 10) - 5/10 to 7/10 depending on how you use the tongue stiffeners
Rating: 92.2/100
Finally in at #1, is the Vans One & Done.
The One & Done is new from Vans for 2023 but has been around on the men's side of the line for years (with the Infuse).
The One & Done is one of those boots that just feels like it's super high quality when you just look at it and hold it. And then once you get it on your foot and out on snow, you realize this boot isn't all just looks.
Across every factor these boots excel - they're responsive, but not ultra stiff/unforgiving, they're comfortable, provide great heel hold and shock absorption.
And they're adjustability is awesome. Not only do you have the traditional lacing for the outer boot, but you also have a BOA that works on a harness that wraps around the ankle section of the tongue of the boot, to intensify heel hold. Then on top of all of that, you can adjust the flex too - with Van's removable tongue stiffeners.
Score Breakdown for the One & Done
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
RESPONSE | 4.0 | 20/25 |
COMFORT | 4.0 | 16/20 |
HEEL HOLD | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 4.0 | 12/15 |
TRACTION | 4.0 | 8/10 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 92.2/100 |
Over to You….
So that’s my list of the best 5 women’s all mountain boots. I hope this has helped you in your hunt for great snowboarding boots.
Check out the links above for more info on each boot and to check for current prices and availability.
Hi Nate,
Thankyou for such a great review! I have small feet and due to this am currently wearing the kids burton zip line boa but am finding it to soft and not holding my feet in place enough so am looking for a stiffer women’s boot in a 5 I’m about 57kgs. I’d say im an intermediate/advanced rider likes fast Carvy runs but also keen to get more confident with tricks and jumps this year. Would love to know your recommendations.
Hi Renee
Thanks for your message.
Everything on this list is likely to feel significantly stiffer than the Zip Line’s, but I think they are all a good flex for what you’re looking to do. I wouldn’t go any stiffer than 6/10, as you’re likely to find them too stiff. So I think something in that 5/10 to 6/10 flex range is a good bet. If you have the chance to try anything on in-person, then that’s the best bet in terms of making sure the boots fit right. Fit and flex are the main things, so I’d go with whatever is the best fit. Even if you can try on the brand of the boot you want – as most boots within a brand will fit similarly.
Some things for fitting – >>How to Size Snowboard Boots
Also there are a couple of 5/10 flex options in the following as well – >>Our Top Women’s Freestyle Snowboard Boots
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
So I’ve decided on the Yes Basic 143cm board. I already have boots, but just want to check that they are ok.
I have Burton Felix Boa 2021 boots (size 8, based on Mono foot size of 25cm, although my left foot is slightly smaller than my right foot). I bought these in July 2021 but have only used them a few times. A total of 11 days (so still possibly breaking them in). I have read your guides and looked up Burton Felix boots online and was a bit concerned that they’re ranked as medium-stiff flex and might be too stiff for my ability level between beginner and intermediate. But your review of the boots above is pretty good coming in at number 2 on you list. You rated them with a stiffness of 6. Is this ok for me and the Yes Basic? Is there a way to adjust them so they’re not so stiff? Overall the boots are comfortable and are of very high quality but I have had issues with pressure points/soreness on my right ankle bone (the round bit that sticks out) on my back leg (I ride regular). After a few days riding, it looked and felt like I was almost getting a blister, so I put a bandaid on it while I was riding for the next few days and it definitely helped and didn’t turn into a blister). Is this from new boots and the boots being a bit stiff? (Or it could have been the board I was using which was a rental – a 2018 Head Rose with medium flex… or my stiff bindings, or technique or a combination).
I already have bindings but that’s another story and will post that under your bindings reviews.
Thanks so much for all your help – it’s incredibly helpful – what would we do without you?!
Hi Jess
I would say they’re probably the stiffest I would pair with the Basic, but just inside a good range, IMO. The pressure point on your ankle might go away with time – and could just be part of breaking it in – and stiffer boots do tend to take longer to break in, but it could also be just that they don’t necessarily match with your feet that well, if it’s causing a lot of discomfort. Some brands just fit certain feet better. Have you felt like the pressure point is getting better since you first rode in them or is still about the same? Have you tried heat molding them?
In terms of for your level, they’re a little stiffer than ideal for your level, but doable at a stretch.
I will answer the bindings question over on the bindings post where you commented there.
Hi Nate!
Thanks for all great information you provide. Need your help once again.
After two seasons my Burton Limelights became too loose and there is a lot of heel lift.
Tried Thirtytwo boots and like the heel hold. But can’t decide which one to choose. 32 TM-2 or 32 Lashed with double boa. Can you explain the difference? As I understand, the TM2 are stiffer, but more comfortable. Lashed are to tight in toebox while standing but maybe they will break in?
Thanks a lot!
Hi Elena
Yeah, main difference is that the TM-2 are a little stiffer. The TM-2 does have 32’s performance liner and footbed (versus team liner and foot bed in the Lashed), which should help to make them more comfortable – but comfort is mostly down to fit. The TM is also a little shorter in the backstay versus the Lashed, which can affect comfort, depending on someone’s calves. The most important thing is fit, so if you feel the TM-2s fit better, that’s what I would be leaning towards. The Lashed would certainly break in and that tightness in the toe box would ease, but whether it eased enough is hard to say.
Hi Nate, thanks!
Yes, I same some concerns about Lashed, cause it’s very hard to stand in them because of a lot of pain in toes. So, if there is no big difference in stiffness I will get TM-2. After Limelights I rode some time in Burton supremes, but there was a heel lift and I tightened them too much but can’t say that boots are totally stiff at all. If compare to Burton Supreme TM-2 will be the same?
Hi Elena
Yeah, I would say that the TM-2 and Supreme will feel similar in terms of flex.
Hi Nate!
Thanks so much for these reviews they’re super helpful.
I’m updating my kit and looking for boot suggestions. I ride mostly groomers (Quebec) and I’m intermediate leaning advanced. I have super old Burton supremes. I like the responsiveness I get from the stiffness but my feet are not happy (hot spots and like a deep ache unless they’re laced perfectly?).
I like what I read about the Burton Felix and the Thirtytwo tm-2 in terms of comfort but I’m worried they’re not as stiff and I’ll be disappointed by that?
Hi Adrienne
Thanks for your message.
Being used to the Supreme’s, the Felix will likely feel softer, but that softness might help your feet to be more comfortable. The Felix are a feel of around 6/10 and the TM-2 more like 7/10. The Supreme more like 7/10 as well. I don’t think there’s a 2022 version of the women’s TM-2s, but if you were to find a 2021 version, I think you’d find them a similar flex to the Supreme’s. Also note that if you’ve done a lot of days on your Supreme’s they likely feel noticeably softer than a brand new Supreme would feel.
Hope this helps
Hi, I am looking for some new boots as my current boots are too small. I am 16, 5’5 almost 5’6 and 120 pounds. This next season with be my 8th or 9th year snowboarding. I am currently working on getting better on carving but can do everything else pretty well. At the beginning of 2020 I broke my arm carving down a slope as I over rotated backwards and caught and edge and fell on my wrist going pretty fast. Ever since I have been kind of hesitant of going faster and doing hard carves and didn’t go at all last year because of it? I have gone twice this season so far, once to my local resort and once at Mammoth Mountain and will probably go once or twice more before the end of the season, and am slowly building up my confidence back. What kind of boot would you suggest I get? I am about average skill level and am working on getting better at carving?
Hi Makenzie
Thanks for your message. Apologies for the late reply – doing a bit of a snowboarding tour right now, so quite behind on answering!
Since you’re looking to improve carving, I would try not to go too soft flexing. At the same time, for your specs and skill level, I wouldn’t go ultra stiff either. I think something around that 5/10 to 6/10 range is a good idea. So, something from this list should work well, IMO. BOA is pretty dominant these days, especially in women’s boots, so you’ll see a lot of those here. If you think you’d prefer speed lace or traditional lace (there is one here in the Luna Ventana Pro), I would be happy to suggest more options in this flex range.
If you think you’d prefer something a little softer than 6/10, you could also check out:
>>Top Women’s Freestyle Bindings
Hope this helps
Thanks for responding, I am trying to redo my whole set up right now also since all of my stuff is too small if you could suggest some snowboards and bindings that would be great.
Hi Makenzie
Would be happy to suggest some board and bindings. Also, I just noticed that I sent you to a freestyle bindings list in my last response instead of the freestyle boots list.
For boards, I would again look at something in that 5/10 to 6/10 range, given that you want to increase your confidence at speed and get better with carving. Something with camber is also a good idea, if your focus is going to be carving. You certainly don’t have to go full camber – and at an intermediate level looking to get your confidence back, I would suggest against it – but a hybrid board with a healthy amount of camber is a good idea, IMO.
If you want the board to also be good in powder, then I would look at this list – in particularly the Yes Hel Yes and Jones Twin Sister – or if you want things a little more mellow, the Airis and Hello are also options. The Arbor Cadence Camber and Feelgood camber are probably a little on the aggressive side – and the Cadence Rocker and Feelgood Flying V maybe not quite the carving performance you’d want, given that you want to work on that mostly.
If you don’t think you’ll be riding much powder, then something from this list would also work.
For bindings it kind of depends on which board you end up going with, but assuming you go with something around a 5/10 or 6/10 flex, then bindings with a similar flex is a good idea. Check out this list for some ideas. But we can look more at bindings, once you’ve decided on a board. Have you decided on boots yet?
Thank you for your help, this board wasn’t on your list but I have liked the look of the roxy smoothie womens board. It’s mainly black and has some blue and salmon colored branches on it. I wanted to see what you thought of that board, also my brother said that he really likes the union binding so I wanted to know what you thought of those too. Thank you.
Hi Makenzie
I think the Smoothie could work, but note that it’s going to feel a little on the looser side. If you’re really looking to get proper carves going, it may not be ideal for that. Boards with C2 tend to be more loose than stable and that’s sometimes a good thing if you like that feel and I enjoy it personally, but not for when I really want to carve. Great for slashing and getting the surfy feel going, but when really laying down a carve, I prefer to have more camber in the profile. That looser feeling can feel washy on big carves. The Smoothie looks like it’s not overly soft or anything, so that helps for carving, but my biggest concern would be the C2 profile. C2 does have camber, but it’s a little more rocker dominant than camber dominant.
I like Union bindings too. Assuming you end up on a board in that 5/10 to 6/10 flex range, then I would be looking at the Union Legacy. But you could also do the Trilogy (a little stiffer).
Hi Nate,
Thanks for updating your interesting reviews again for the new season.
I’m looking for an “all-mountain” boot for my 11-year-old daughter. I’m not sure though, if it is be the all-mountain, freestyle, beginner or some other category that I should be looking at?
This’ll be her sixth season, so she is already a decent rider, who can carve our “hometown blacks” (rated black, but rather hills than mountains still). When the conditions allow, she also likes to ride a bit of powder and trees. She doesn’t do jumps or jibbing (for now anyway), so I wouldn’t necessarily be looking for a freestyle-specific setup for her. However, weighing barely 40 kg, I wonder if an actual women’s all-mountain or freeride boot would be too stiff?
For the past couple of seasons she’s been riding Nitro Flora (flex 4), which is the first women’s boot she’s had (the first one being a kid’s Grom etc.). She’s soon growing out of them and I’m guessing there’s no point going back to a youth boot anymore?
She has been generally happy with the current boot, though has little to compare it to. Her own preference for the next one is “boa & nice colour” 🙂
My goal is to find a boot that is comfortable to keep her longer on the piste, but also such that allows her to keep advancing as a snowboarder.
It remains to be seen, whether the next boot is going to be her “final” boot size. She’s currently riding the Burton Process Smalls 134 with Union Milan bindings, both of which she’ll eventually outgrow (probably not this season).
Any suggestions for us for a direction or specific boot?
Cheers,
Jussi
Hi Jussi
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, given her weight, I probably wouldn’t go stiffer than 5/10 at this stage. Something either 4/10 or 5/10 would be a good bet, IMO. For boots the terms all-mountain and freestyle are pretty loose – there’s some things that make a boot better for freestyle, like good board feel and shock absorption, but those things don’t stop the boot from being good for all-mountain riding either. In this case, I’d be more inclined to go off the freestyle list.
Given her preference for BOA, I would look at the Ride Hera, Burton Ritual BOA (though quite pricey – you could also look at the Burton Limelight Boa, which is a similar flex) or the Vans Encore Pro.
If you’re looking for something easier on the bank account some other options include:
– K2 Haven (4/10 flex – only single BOA, which means less adjustability though)
– Vans Encore OG (again 4/10 flex and only one BOA)
– Ride Sage (same again)
– DC Search BOA (5/10 but also only one BOA)
Hope this helps
Thanks very much Nate!
We ended up ordering the Vans Encore Pro. After I explained her the rating categories in your reviews, my daughter concluded that she wanted a responsive boot first and foremost. It took me some explaining to convince her that a flex 9 boot, even if it’s 5/5 in response, is probably not the one for her just now 😀
At flex 5 the Encore Pro will be plenty responsive for her weight and age, I suppose?
Hi Jussi
Thanks for the update. Yeah, I reckon at her weight and age it should be plenty responsive.
You helped me pick out my beloved board so now I have a boot question. I switched into the Salomon Kiana Boa last season with disastrous results. I have small feet and super tiny ankles and calves. In order to get the boot to be tight enough to hold my foot still I had to tighten significantly. What I think was then happening is that I was cutting off blood supply and ended up with tingling / cold toes. I struggled with it everyday and I just never found a happy medium. When I loosened I was just moving all over. And now there are basically only Boas on the market. Any thoughts on my options? I loved the lace locking systems and if the teeth hadn’t given out on my older boots I’d still be wearing them.
Hi Maggie
Thanks for your message.
So important to have the right boots, so hopefully we can work something out together.
Can you remember the brand of boots you were riding before that you liked? Different brands fit differently and potentially Salomon isn’t a good fit for your feet.
Going traditional lace would give you the best in terms of adjustability, and speed lace (maybe what you’re referring to with the lace locking system?) also gives good adjustability, but so can double BOA. But in this case, I think we’ll look outside of BOA. BOA is pretty dominant in the market these days, but there are definitely a good number of lace and speed lace options available.
And first things first, I think is finding a boot that’s not going to give you too much movement without having to over tighten them – and then that extra adjustability can just be fine tuning.
First thing is sizing. We want to make sure that the boot wasn’t too big for you. You can check out the following for more on how you want the boots to fit:
>>How to Size Snowboard Boots
Thirty Two boots are worth checking out, particularly in the higher end range from them, as they come with heel hold kits (basically extra j bars that come with the boots and little pouches in the liner where you can stuff the j bars). Would help to get more around your ankles to hold them in more easily. But, if possible, you’d still want to try them on, to make sure they’re a good fit otherwise. If at all possible trying on boots is preferable. Even if you have the opportunity to try something in the brand and not necessarily the exact model. Or if you can’t try on in person, if it’s within your means to order 2-3 pairs of boots and return the ones that don’t fit.
Looking at some boots with a medium flex (which I’m guessing you’re looking at?), some options, in speed lace or lace):
– Vans Luna Ventana Pro (has a boa coil, but for the most part traditional lace, with that boa just working to lock your heel down more)
– Thirty Two Women’s Lashed Lace
– Burton Limelight (speed lace version)
– Burton Ritual (speed lace)
– Vans Women’s Hi-Standard OG (a little softer, but pretty close to medium)
Thank you!!! I was in a Salomon before with a lace locking system which is why I stuck with the brand. But to your point – the sizing just felt off from the get go and I would have to over tighten to keep my heel down but at the same time the toe box was too small. I loved the lace locking systems of the past! And yes, medium flex as I do a good mix of expert groomers and then in the trees some – no freestyle – but I definitely need to carve. I’m going to take a look at the ones you recommended and see if they are stocked anywhere local. Thanks again!
You’re very welcome Maggie. Hope you find something that’s a great match for you! If you think of it at the time, le me know how you get on.
Nate,
So here’s the update: was able to get my hands on a pair of last year’s Solomon dual lace Kiana in my original size (thanks to your sizing advice I was definitely in too small a boot last year). Putting them on feels just like my old Salomon’s that I wore for years. BUT I also ordered a pair of the Burton Ritual Speedzone. Having a hard time deciding as the last year’s Kiana are half the price….from what I can tell wearing around the house….. Burtons lacing system is easier and less cumbersome. The fit is similar- nice and snug maybe a bit wider in the foot and would benefit from heat molding. The Burton holds my weight while flexing forward maybe just a hair better (feels stiffer and a bit more supportive). The Solomans fit perfect out of the box and maybe flex more bending forward. I’m maybe splitting hairs…… might take both and then use resale market for my #2 unless you can sway me!!! I got both in cool colors so fashion isn’t helping the decision 🙂
Hi Maggie
Thanks for the update.
Sounds like a dilemma (but a high quality problem, given that both seem to fit well!).
Not surprised that the Burton’s feel wider – Salomon are typically on the narrower side and Burton on the wider side. Heat molding will help, but it won’t do miracles – so if you feel that the Burton are a little wide for your feet, heat molding will likely help, but won’t be a cure all. If the fit is slightly better in the Salomon’s I’d be leaning that way. But if you were happy to use the resale market, there’s certainly no substitute for testing them on a board.
Hi Nate,
Just looking for some insight into Vans boot sizing.
I have the Women’s Encore Pro dual BOA system in a size 5.5, but found that I could never really fully lock in using the ankle BOA, it never really did much. I have found last seasons Ferra Pro but only in a size 6. I have tried them out of the box and they seem to lock in well so I’m wondering if in your opinion they might work the same?
For ref. my foot length is 23cm, the 5.5’s are 22cm and 6 are 22.5cm. The size 6’s do not feel too different to the 5.5’s but obviously would pack down a little. I know it’s partly personally preference, but in your opinion do you think I should be in the size 6 or size 5.5 based on my measurement? OR in your option would I be better of getting the new Luna Ventura in the 5.5’s?
Thank you!
Hi Dani
Thanks for your message.
With a 23cm foot length, I would expect you’d be in either a 6 or a 6.5, so I’m kind of surprised you were able to get into the 5.5 without it being too small. So, I think the 6 should be fine, so long as you don’t feel like it’s too big. Yes, it will pack out a little, so you’ll want to take that into account. But if you find your toes are brushing the end (just brushing but without pressure) when you’re standing up straight in them and you feel like you have better heel hold, then I would say go with the Ferra 6.
Typically a smaller boot, or rather a snugger fit, will give you better heel hold. So if you have good heel hold with the Ferra 6, you’d likely get even better with the Luna Ventana 5.5, but purely based on foot size, I’d say that 6 is a good size for you. Apart from having other size options, the advantage of the Luna Ventana is that it has removable tongue stiffeners. But if you have no interest in being able to adjust the flex of your boots, then the Ferra Pro is very similar to the Luna Ventana.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate
We got a pair of burton ritual ltd 2021 in a 9.5 us. they are huge footprint, like close to length of my adidas lexicon 10.5us mens. we had size 9us emerald boa but they were a lil bit small. she has a salomon lotus with a 245mm waist width but now its a tad narrow with the rituals and just fits at max into here burton lexa bindings.So im looking at getting a yes basic 149 to fit width.
My question is, do womens boots not have reduced footprint in any brands? and am i doing right thing by getting a mens board in smaller size with wider waist width?(to keep flex a bit softer as well)
Cheers
Tim
Hi Tim
Thanks for your message.
Women’s boots certainly don’t get the same kind of reduced footprint attention as men’s boots, based on the women’s boots I’ve measured, the average length of the outersole versus the mondo of the boot is 3.5cm longer. For men’s boot, from those that I’ve measured that number is more like 2.9cm average over mondo. At a guess, if the Ritual women’s US9.5 is around 30.1cm (with the estimated 30.3cm for your 10.5 Adidas and given you said they weren’t quite as long), then that’s around 3.6cm longer than mondo, which is about average for women’s boots, based on what I’ve measured (but would be long for men’s boots). Adidas boots are really low profile, so it does make it sound worse than it is, but yeah for sure that footprint is quite large, especially comparing to men’s boots.
From what I’ve measured some women’s Vans boots and some women’s Ride boots are too – e.g. Vans Ferra Pro I measured were 2.7cm over mondo and Encore OG 2.8cm over Mondo and Ride Sage 2.9cm over mondo.
The only thing with increasing width, is that it’s the foot size that really matters when talking about a width being too wide. It’s the feet that ultimately apply pressure to the edges of the board, so going too wide to accommodate for boots can be problematic. In this case however, I think you would be fine with the YES Basic 149. The Basic 149 is around 25.6cm at the inserts, which should be fine assuming her feet are around 25.5cm to 26cm. And should be wide enough for the boots too (narrow enough for her feet and wide enough for her boots). In comparison the 151 Lotus is likely around 25.2cm at the inserts, so gain a little bit of width at the inserts there – but still not so much that the board should be too wide for her, IMO.
Still going to be quite a bit of overhang, but it shouldn’t cause any drag. If she’s laying eurocarves and has very little angle on her back binding, then there might be issues, but otherwise, I think she’ll be fine. She’d probably even get away with the Lotus, to be honest, depending on how aggressively she carves and her binding angles. This is all based on the assumption of around 30.1cm on the outersole of the boot.
Hope this helps
Nate,Great article!!! Thanks for all of the information! And the replies to comments.. so I’m wondering if I want to get a woman’s boot with a woman’s fit… I tend to have very large calves so when finding a fit for ANY kind of boot I tend to struggle.. I don’t think I’ve had any issue with rentals and demo’s each season, but of course nervous when I plan on investing in my own pair. Your insight?
Hi Donna
Thanks for your message.
It’s hard to say for calves without trying on first. But I think you probably don’t want to go too stiff, to allow for more forgiveness on your calves. But depending on style probably don’t want to go too soft either. Like if you’re not a beginner/not just riding playful in the park, kind of thing. So I think a mid flex is a good way to go.
Women’s boots are designed with lower calves in mind, so the back stay is shorter than they are on a men’s boot – so a women’s boot won’t go as high up the calf as a men’s boot – which will probably also help with big calves, so going for a women’s boot in that sense, probably makes sense too. But the best way to be sure is if you’re able to try on first.
Hope this helps
Hi there!! Gosh this is all so helpful! Thank you so much.. I’ve been having such a hard time finding the right boots… especially bc I live in taos,NM and the stores here only sell a few women’s boots and only one double boa which is what I’m looking for… ive been riding on and off for years… this is my first season pass and I am gonna ride as much as possible.. I want to eventually be able to ride thru trees and small jumps by the end of the season.. I was looking at the ride Hera or the k2 contour… wondering if you would have some advice? I have to order them online unfortunately but have been doing a bunch of research and can’t seem to figure out the best move here…
Hi Amanda
Since you’re looking to jumps and ride trees, I think the Contour is probably a little stiff overall, particularly if you’re not already at an advanced level. If you’re more intermediate, I would say they’re a little stiff – and also you might want a little more forgiveness for trees/jumps.
I think the Hera would work well though. But if you could also let me know the board you ride, that would help too.
One thing to note about both the Contour and the Hera, is that they’re not the typical kind of double boa. They have one Boa that controls the entire outerboot and the other boa works on a harness that wraps around the ankle on the liner to improve heel hold (the Ride system works a little differently in that it works by pulling the tongue into the ankle rather than a harness around the liner – but similar result). This is really handy in some ways – in that you can retighten this on the fly if you feel like your heel is loosening up. The downside is that you don’t get upper and lower separation on the outerboot – so it depends if you want that more traditional double boa of upper and lower separation – or this type, which gives you better heel hold, at the expense of that lower/upper adjustability.
Let me know what you’re thinking and I would be happy to look at some other options for you – but if that kind of double sounds like you’re kind of thing, I think the Hera would work well for what you’re describing.
Hope this helps
Oh my goodness I cannot thank you enough for such a thorough helpful response… this is more information and help than I’d imagined… ppl in the small shops here don’t really know too much unfortunately…
I didn’t know the boa system for those was just one string… hmm I think I would prefer to have two seperate but I don’t know.. I really just want to feel held and comfy in my boots like I don’t even know they’re on.
I ride a never summer infinity and have union bindings..
Hi Amanda
If you wanted that upper lower separation and BOA and to match the Infinity and how you describe your riding, the following would be great options, IMO:
– Burton Ritual LTD Boa
– Vans Encore Pro
– Burton Felix Boa
– K2 Kinsley
– 32 Lashed Double Boa
– Burton Limelight Boa
Fit is really important too. I know you don’t have the chance to try on, but if it was possible to try on brands, even if not in the exact boot, that would be helpful. Boots within a brand’s range tend to have a similar fit.
Thank you!! I’m going to call the shops down in Santa Fe and Albuquerque to see what they have in stock so I can do as you said and at least try on the brands… I truly cannot thank you enough for your excellent guidance and service! So grateful.. majikal solstice wishes to you!
You’re very welcome Amanda. Happy riding!
Hello! I am struggling to find snowboard boots. I prefer all mountain, but seem to find myself in the park or speeding down playing in the forest when I can. I need something for a slightly wide women’s foot. I am slightly flat footed as well. Im an intermediate rider and really want something that will not lift in the heels. I also like them snug and usually find myself tightening up every 3ish runs.
Thanks in advance 🙂
Hi Julia
Thanks for your message.
I think you’re in the right place here. I think something around that mid-flex is a good way to go for what you’re describing.
Thirty Two, DC and Burton tend to fit a bit wider, in my experience, so that might be a way to go there. For flat feet, I would look into getting custom insoles. For heel hold, it’s partly down to how well you size them, but there are certainly other factors. Check out the score breakdowns there for my predictions for heel hold for each boot. But it’s not the same for every foot. If there’s any way you can try on in-person that’s ideal, but sometimes I know that’s not possible. For more also check out:
>>Snowboard Boot Fit by Brand
Hope this helps
Hi can you compare the K2 estate with the K2 contour? I’m used to a stiffer boot so I tried on the contour and it fit well. Now that boots are on sale, there is less difference in price between the two, so I wonder if the Estate is an overall better boot component wise?
Hi Sarah
Thanks for your message.
If you prefer a stiffer boot, then I would be leaning towards the Contour. The Estate isn’t overly soft, but more like 6/10 flex vs 7-8/10 on the Contours. The Contours aren’t on this list, but they do feature on the following (which is for stiffer boots):
>>Top 5 Women’s Freeride Boots
In terms of price difference, it’s not completely unique, but it’s not the norm for stiffer flexing boots in a line to be cheaper than their softer flexing counterparts, which is the case with the Estate vs the Contour. But in terms of performance, especially if you prefer stiffer, then the Contour probably has it for you.
I would say the price difference relates to The Estate having a nicer footbed, a better sole and potentially the construction is longer lasting (but that’s just a rough guess). If you really didn’t like the footbed in the Contour, you could always get a custom footbed for it, but it’s not bad, just that the Estate’s is a little nicer.
Hope this helps
I also have the same dilemma between the K2 contour and estate. I have the 2017 K2 contour and the boa is slowly ripping the seams out so I don’t think it will last next season/don’t think they cover it beyond a year. I love this boot! However, I have not tried anything different now that I am at an advanced level. I do trees/powder/groomers/park in the spring. So far the contour has held up, but would the estate be a more aggressive shoe/be better for me? I want to buy higher quality now that I have been riding more. I have a salomon board/bindings, and ride about 15-20 days per season. What do you recommend?
Hi Emma
Thanks for your message.
I would say that the Contour is the more aggressive boot. It’s stiffer. As I said above, stiffer boots in a line are typically more expensive, but in this case it’s the other way around (between the Estate and Contour). I think the Estate is a better quality boot overall – but the Contour is the stiffer/more aggressive boot – so if you wanted to continue with that stiffer flex, then I would stick with the Contours, but if you wanted to go a little softer, then the Estate is a good choice. Note that the Contour aren’t on this list, as they’re too stiff to be considered for it, but they are on this one – >>Top 5 Women’s Freeride Boots
Hope this helps
Hi,
First of all, your reviews are great! I would like an advise about boots.
I bought Thirty Two Lashed double boa boots but I don’t like them since I cannot feel my board under my feet and I find the outsole too high so that give less control. I used to have Thirty Two Vela but this model doesn’t exist anymore. I’m an advanced rider, all mountain, mainly resorts tracks in cold Quebec, Canada and fresh pow 2-3 times a year.
There’s no mention about board feel for all mountain boots, how would you rank the one in the top 5?
Thank you very much!
Hi Marie
Thanks for your message.
I find that Vans typically have good board feel, so in this list the Ferra Pro would be the pick of them, IMO.
Thirty Twos 86FT have very good board feel, but they’re probably too soft flexing for what you’re looking for.
Unfortunately I don’t measure the height of boots – but thanks for the idea, as I think I will from now on.
Of the boots I have with me right now, I have two pairs of Vans (which are 28cm and 28.5cm tall respectively) and one ThirtyTwo – which is 30cm. These are men’s boots, but it might be the case that 32 Boots are typically higher (or Vans boots typically shorter) – but definitely not enough information at hand, to come to an accurate conclusion there.
Unfortunately, overall I didn’t think about board feel for all-mountain boots, just for freestyle – but I will keep this in mind in the future.
Hope this helps somewhat
Thank you very much for your quick answer, that helps a lot!
Cheers,
Marie
You’re very welcome Marie. Happy riding!
Funny thing is I was at a shop in Vancouver a couple of weeks ago buying new boots, and get this: I tried on the Ride Cadence, a higher-end 32 double BOA boot (but can’t remember the model), and the Vans Aura Pro men’s (they were sold out of Vans Encore Pro in women’s).
I had been riding a Vans Aura double BOA for several years so haven’t been exposed to different feels for a while.
And the FIRST thing I noticed about the 32 is how thick and high the sole felt. I actually felt like I was on a platform in contrast to what I had been used to.
The Ride Cadence felt the thinnest and felt almost like a thick sneaker. I would imagine the shock absorption wouldn’t be the greatest. Crazy thing is I read a review online somewhere where a girl says she wore a hole through the sole by the end of the season (crazy!).
I ended up sticking with Vans because I decided I’d go with what I was used to, and I trust Vans durability with their high-end boots. I rode the crap out of my old ones for years and they were indestructible.
Anyway, just to corroborate that 32’s sole / footbed is indeed thicker than any boot I’ve tried.
Hi,
I really enjoyed reading your article.
This is my third season doing snowboard and have done multiple ride this year and finally came to mind that I really need boots.
So far I really enjoy riding the tree runs and off piste.
Since, my calves are really developed from running, there is a huge size gab on my ankle and calves.
In some snowboarding boots, I can feel my heel lifting up.
I had Ride Hera and Ride Karmyn in mind. When I tried them at the store, the fit was great(especially)
My concern is weather Ride Hera is enough for all mountain snowboard? I really like the mountains and want to get better in next three years.
Could you please give me other recommendations? Other than the heel hold, what is important on off piste ride?
Hi Chiyoko
Thanks for your message.
If the Ride boots are fitting you well, then I think they are a really good option. Fit is probably the most important thing and is very different for different people, so if you already know that they fit well, that’s one box ticked.
In terms of riding off-piste, it depends what you’re doing. If you’re riding in trees a lot and are riding in tight trees and riding quite slowly, then going too stiff isn’t necessarily a good thing. Softer flexing boots tend to be a little more maneuverable at slower speeds. If your really bombing it out there, then going stiffer is a good idea to get good response at speed and good support. Also, if you like to surf powder off-piste – going a little softer also gives you a surfier feel. And, as an intermediate rider (if I have that accurate?) going too stiff isn’t the best idea either, IMO. Going with something around mid-flex is a good idea, depending. If you’re really riding fast and carving a lot, then going a little stiffer is a good idea, but otherwise the Hera would be fine – if that’s what fit best. But the Karmyn gives a bit more flex if you really worried about the Hera begin too soft.
The other thing is whether you are hiking at all, or just going off-piste in lift assisted areas on the resort? If you’re hiking a lot, then traction becomes more important. But in that case I think the Hera and Karmyn are about the same.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
I have recently been in search of new snowboarding boots. I am really confused because I am seeking improved heel hold and loved the lacing system on the Nitro crown, but then saw a review that said it was too tight and actually limited flexibility in the ankles. I like my boots tight at the bottom and looser on the top. I thought I would like the double boa systems but found they didn’t tighten the way I wanted. I did find that the liner helped a lot with heel hold more so than any lacing systems with the exception of the Nitro’s. I want medium level flexibility. Now I am just confused. I want a balance between comfort and heel hold. Loved the Nitro’s now I’m not sure. I have narrow ankles so I’m sure this doesn’t help. I am an intermediate to ad advanced rider. Any suggestions to sort out my confusion?
Hi Marreya
Thanks for your message.
Heel hold can be difficult to get right – especially if you have narrow ankles. As a rule up to 1cm (0.4 inches) of heel hold is fine. So it doesn’t have to be zero lift. Because everyone’s feet are shaped differently it’s hard to really tell the extent of heel lift until you try boots on. Whilst there isn’t much benefit in seeing snowboards or bindings in store I do recommend trying on boots before you buy – even if you eventually buy online.
It’s hard to rely on a review that says that boots are too tight in the ankle because that will depend on the ankle size. So the Nitro Crown’s might have been too tight for the person doing the review but might be just right for others. Some boots have a better ability to hold your heel down due to the way they tighten which is where some boots have a better rep for good heel hold than others.
If you aren’t able to try on boots in store for whatever reason, your best bet is to go with something that has a good rep for heel hold and then if once you get them you find that the heel hold isn’t great for you then you could try getting J-bars and that should help. But ideally you should always try on boots if you can.
You can learn more about how to get a good fit at the article below.
~ How to Size Snowboard Boots
Hope this helps