Hello and welcome to my Burton Kilroy Twin review.
In this review, I will take a look at the Kilroy Twin as a freestyle snowboard.
As per tradition here at SnowboardingProfiles.com I will give the Kilroy Twin a score out of 100 (based on several factors) and see how it compares with other freestyle snowboards.
DISCOTINUED BOARD: Note that the 2022 model was the last model of the Kilory Twin. However, it really just got a name change, with the Good Company being the same board, but with a different name.
Overall Rating
Board: Burton Kilroy Twin 2021
Price: $419
Style: Freestyle
Flex Rating: Medium-Soft
Flex Feel on Snow: Medium-Soft (4/10)
Rating Score: 85.2/100
Compared to other Menβs Freestyle Boards
Out of the 36 menβs freestyle snowboards that I rated:
Overview of the Kilroy Twinβs Specs
Check out the tables for the Kilroy Twinβs specs and available sizes.
Specs
Style: | Freestyle |
Price: | $419 |
Ability Level: | |
Flex: | |
Feel: | |
Turn Initiation: | Fast |
Edge-hold: | |
Camber Profile: | |
Shape: | |
Setback Stance: | Centered |
Base: | Sintered |
Weight: | Feels a little lighter than normal |
Sizing
LENGTH (cm) | Waist Width (mm) | Rec Rider Weight (lb) | Rec Rider Weight (kg) |
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135 | 235 | 100-150 | 45-68 |
145 | 245 | 100-150 | 45-68 |
148 | 248 | 100-150 | 45-68 |
152 | 250 | 120-180 | 54-82 |
155 | 252 | 120-180 | 54-82 |
159 | 255 | 150-200 | 68-91 |
* the 135 and 145 are both new for 2022
Who is the Kilroy Twin Suited To?
The Kilroy Twin is a great option for anyone looking for a predominantly park board that also works well doing freestyle things over the rest of the mountain. Particularly those who are looking for something full camber but want something softer flexing.
Not for a beginner, but fine for low intermediate and up, IMO.
The Kilroy Twin in More Detail
O.k. letβs take a more detailed look at what the Kilroy Twin is capable of.
Demo Info
Board: Burton Kilroy Twin 2021, 152cm (250mm waist width)
Date: March 7, 2020
Conditions: Cloudy but still around 90-95% visibility.
Groomers had a decent layer of soft with mostly a medium firmness under that layer, with some harder spots in patches.
Off groomer soft with some overnight fresh. Not waist deep or anything, but a nice amount.
Wind around 10-15kph (6-9mph). Temperature was -8Β°C (17.6Β°F) and with wind chill -11Β°C (12.2Β°F).
Bindings angles: +15/-15
Stance width: 560mm (22β³) - rode it 1" wider than reference
Stance Setback: Centered
Width at Inserts: 262mm (10.31") - likely around 260mm (10.24") at reference stance
Rider Height: 6'0"
Rider Weight: 175lbs
Rider Boot Size: US10 Salomon Lo-Fi
Bindings Used: Burton Malavita M
Rough Weight: Felt a little lighter than normal - but 152 is also shorter than I'd normally ride, even for a park board.
Powder
Not designed for powder but for brief moments in not-too-deep powder, it was OK, like most boards are, though I did nose dive and get stuck once. Would definitely be a back leg burner in deep pow for extended periods of time.
True twin, centered and full camber doesn't scream easy powder float.
Carving & Turning
Carving: Good for how short and soft flexing this board felt. That full camber profile helps there for sure. Good, but still not a hard carver or anything. But fun for shorter/sharper carves, vs long arcing ones.
Turning: Easy board to turn and a very snappy feeling turn.
Maneuverability at Slow Speeds: Really nimble. Partly that's down to it's size - it was short compared to what I'd normally ride - but add length to it and it was still going to feel quite nimble.
Skidded Turns: Good for skidding turns for a camber board. But always going to be not ideal, with a full camber profile profile, but definitely can skid your turns on it.
Speed
Definitely not a bomber, but surprisingly good for it's flex and the size I rode.
Uneven Terrain
Easy going over bumps and nice and snappy and nimble weaving between.
Good enough in crud. Doesn't crush through it but goes over top OK.
Let's Break this Text Up with a Video
Jumps
Good fun for jumps - side hits in particular.
Pop: Good pop and excessively easy to access. Fun board for easy pop
Approach: Bit wobbly for approaches to larger jumps, but stable enough for other sizes, where you didn't need as much speed.
Landing: Pretty solid considering it was a 152.
Side-hits: Super fun for side hits - really nimble and good easy pop.
Small jumps/Big Jumps: Best suited to small to medium jumps in my opinion vs larger jumps.
Switch
Great for switch as expected.
Spins
Really easy to get the spin around (size helped, but would still be easy at a longer length, IMO), great for setups and landings, whether switch or otherwise and really good pop. Overall a really fun board to spin with - not as suitable for larger tricks though.
Jibbing
Not the biggest fan of all-camber for jibs, but I felt confident hitting jibs on this board, and I'm definitely not the strongest jibber in the world.
Butters
Really easy to butter. More so than I remember the Kilroy Process being, even though they look like basically the same board. The smaller size definitely helps there, but had it felt like that in a 155, I would have given it 4.5, so the 4/5 (and every other score here) is adjusted for length.
Score Breakdown and Final Verdict
Check out the breakdown of the score in the table below.
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
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JUMPS | 4.5 | 18/20 |
JIBBING | 3.5 | 14/20 |
SWITCH | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
BUTTERING | 4.0 | 8/10 |
SPINS | 4.5 | 9/10 |
UNEVEN TERRAIN | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
POWDER | 2.0 | 2/5 |
CARVING/TURNS | 3.0 | 3/5 |
SPEED | 3.0 | 3/5 |
PIPE | 3.5 | 3.5/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 85.2/100 |
The Kilroy Twin is a snappy, energetic park board, that has easy pop and a lively feel. It's got more for carving and can handle speed better than you would think (though still not a bomber), and just has a great feeling on a turn or short carve.
But mostly this board kills it in the park and for sidehits. In the park it was better on jibs than I expected and was just about ideal for small and medium jumps. Not as suitable for larger jumps though, IMO.
More Info, Current Prices and Where to Buy Online
If you want to learn more about the Kilroy Twin, or if you are ready to buy, or if you just want to research prices and availability, check out the links below.
If you want to check out some other freestyle snowboard options, or if you want to compare how the Kilroy Twin compares to other freestyle snowboards, then check out the next link.
Jackie says
Hi Nate,
Thanks for the detailed reviews.
I am seeking a board that fits me and need some professional advice. I just finished my first snow season and am trying to get away from the rental. I don’t know what level I am right now, but I can S turn on green and feel relatively confident about it. My highest speed is 19 mph and 16 mph on average. I didn’t try linking turn on blue slopes because I am still nervous about its steepness, but I tried the falling leaf on them.
My goal for the next snow season is to feel comfortable doing S turn on the blue slopes. I also want to learn how to switch and start to try some carving. I think I will stay away from the park and powder for now.
I’m 175cm and weigh 57kg. And I’m wearing size 10 woman boots. I learned how to snowboard on a traditional camber board and want to stick with it. And I want to learn switch, so I pick up the true twin. My trainer recommended the man snowboard for me due to my feet size and height. Then I narrow my choice to Burton Good Company and Process Camber. I live in Saint Louis, MO, where we only have packed conditions with man-made snow on a little hill. Which snowboard do you think fits me better, and what size should I choose? Will Good Company be a better choice because it’s lighter and I don’t have strong legs as men?
I hope that my essay is understandable and not too annoying. Thank you
Nate says
Hi Jackie
Thanks for your message.
I would go Good Company for what you’re describing. For a couple of reasons. Firstly, in terms of sizing. The smallest Process is 152, which is too big for you, IMO. Weight is most important for length sizing. Whilst I do take height into account, it’s the secondary thing (there is a leverage factor with height, but it’s not as influential on sizing as weight is). I would put your “standard all-mountain length” at around 148. But I would err a little shorter than that, given you’re a newer rider and looking to go traditional camber (mellow the board out a bit by going shorter). So for the Good Company I would be looking at the 145. But even if you didn’t want to size down, then the Good Company also has a 148.
The other reason is that the Good Company will be an easier board to control and not take as much “muscling” to turn. Not as much because of being lighter (size for size, I would say that the Process is actually lighter (though if you go 145 Good Company vs 152 Process it will certainly be lighter because of the size)), but because it’s a little softer flexing, which should help make it easier to turn.
Also, if you are set on traditional camber, the Process is actually “purepop” camber, which has flat sections towards the tip and tail, so is more of a camber dominant hybrid camber (aka mostly camber) rather than full traditional camber.
But yeah, long story short, I’d go with the Good Company in 145 – or at most 148.
Hope this helps with your decision
Jackie says
Hi Nate,
Thank you for your advice.
I am a little bit surprised because I have never tried boards below 150. I have tried 3 boards so far. The first one is a traditional camber in 151 with a medium flex. It’s my first rental board. It was a little stiff and long for me at first. But after I made some progress, I got used to it and found it stable at speed. The second one is slightly softer than the first one, and it’s a traditional camber in 153. It’s even easier to ride and more stable at speed. Then I tried a much softer one in 155, which I don’t like because it’s too soft and unstable. But I can still use it. I am trying to find a replacement for my second rental board, but surprised by the length you recommend. But it’s worth trying since you’re more experienced than me.
And my husband wants to buy the Burton Process flying v board and needs your help deciding the size, if you don’t mind. He is 5’11 and 166 lbs, wearing 10.5 men’s boots. He is a beginner working on S turn more smoothly on green runs.
Thanks a lot!
Nate says
Hi Jackie
If you’re used to longer sizes and like them, then err longer, as personal preference comes into it. But purely based on your specs, those sizes are long for your weight. I imagine you were given those sizes purely base on height (which is typical at a rental place). But based on what you’ve been riding and sounds like you’ve been getting on with quite well, it might be the case that you find the 145 Good Company too soft and probably want to ride it in a longer size. And particularly if stability at speed is important to you and you like to ride fast and aren’t as concerned about slower speed maneuverability or have found those sizes to be fine for you in terms of the amount of maneuverability you need, then sticking to something more in the late 140s early 150s makes sense.
David says
Hi Nate,
Really appreciate your reviews! The last few seasons have been amazing thanks to your advice.
I’m currently looking at a first setup for the gf and the 2023 good company is one of our tops picks so far, but I’m wondering if this would be the right board for her in terms of progression and style.
Skillwise, she’s low intermediate with roughly 2 seasons of experience. Turns are pretty solid, but still catches edges occasionally and isn’t really confident in her riding just yet. Almost all of our riding will be outside the park, until possibly late season. Style-wise, we plan to work on improving her riding, learning to carve, starting to learn switch, ollies, and basic butters/presses.
So we’re looking for something forgiving, good for progression, and building confidence. But being full camber, I’m worried she might develop a fear of catching an edge. Would the Good Company be a good match for her? Or would you recommend looking at some hybrid camber options?
Other boards on our list are
Salomon No Drama(camrock), which seems like it might be way too stiff?
Capita Space Metal Fantasy(flat,rocker)
Bataleon Feel Better
Nate says
Hi David
I found the Kilroy Twin pretty un-catchy. But I did ride it in a 152 which is small for me, making it feel a little softer than it otherwise would in a longer size. I find soft boards tend to be less catchy, all else being equal.
So, there is a chance that she could find it a little more catchy than I did, but I found it was fine and based on my experience would be suitable for an intermediate rider. Be careful with sizing though. Even thought it is a unisex board it’s quite wide for using as a women’s board, unless you go down to the 135. Not sure on the appropriate sizing for your gf, but just something to think about if you did go Good Company.
I agree that the No Drama would be too stiff.
The Space Metal Fantasy could work for what you’re describing. It’s not the best for carving and if your gf progresses quite quickly might feel the lack of camber in this one, if she gets into carving, but otherwise could work well.
The Bataleon Feel Better I think would be a good option. It’s camber, but in my experience with Bataleon boards with 3BT shouldn’t be catchy at all.
Hope this helps
David says
Hi Nate,
Thanks for your comments on the board!
It seems like like appropriate sizing might make it easier to ride and partly make up for the catchyness of the full camber. Now that you mention waist width tho, it could be an issue since there are no sizes between 135 and 145. At 43 kg/95 lbs would the 135 be a decent size for her?
I agree with you on your thoughts about those boards. I wish I could suggest others, but I’m really limited by selection and preference π
I’ve never ridden 3BT but love the idea of a fun, surfy easygoing board. My only concern is edge grip. We ride in South Korea where theres no pow, mostly hardpack and some ice, with moguls forming later in the day.
What do you think about 3BT in hard snow conditions?
Nate says
Hi David
I have found the Bataleon board’s I’ve ridden to be decent but not amazing in terms of edge grip in hard/icy conditions. Not up there with the likes of boards with magnetraction or some other kind of edge tech (e.g. YES’ underbite or mid-bite) but better than I thought they’d be. I’ve found, as a whole, but depends a lot on the model, that they’ve been quick edge to edge, so good for moguls/trees.
In terms of sizing, the 135 may well be a good size, but if you could let me know her height and boot size (or shoe size if you’re not sure of her boot size), so I can give a more accurate opinion.
David says
Hey Nate,
Yeah, from discussions, it seems like the edge grip is better than what you would expect from rocker-type boards. Thanks for confirming that. The 3BT seems like a super mellow, playful vibe and I’d be down to sacrifice precision for surfiness. I just imagine it to be such a fun and different ride. What was your experience on the 3BT?
For board sizing, she’s 5’4″ and 6.5 boot size, or 235mm which is the waist width on the 135. Perhaps sizing down might make the edges more manageable? I’m just still caught on recommending a full camber board. What are your thoughts on the 3BT Feel Better as an alternative?
Nate says
Hi David
I really liked the Bataleon boards I tested. They’ve got a bit of that surfier vide, but not quite as much as I was expecting. Certainly catch-free, but I found I could ride them more precise than I was expecting as well, particularly their stiffer offerings, naturally. If you’re concerned about catchiness, then I think the Feel Better would be a safer bet – or even the Push Up, if you didn’t want to go quite as soft.
Size-wise for the Good Company, I think the 135 could work. It’s good width-wise, IMO and whilst the 135 is a little shorter than what I’d consider her “standard size” this is the kind of board you can ride shorter – and would help with making it more manageable.
For the Feel Better/Push Up, I think the 138 would be a good size.
David says
Thank you Nate!
All things considered, it came down to design and the lady went with the good company 135. I think it’ll be fine, just hoping it’s not overly catchy when she starts trying switch or spinning on the snow/basic butters and jumps.
I appreciate all your help and effort with the website! Stoked for the season!
Nate says
You’re very welcome David. Hope it works out well for her. If you think of it at the time, let me know how she gets on. Stoked for the season too, really itching for it now – hope yours rocks!
Anders Eegholm says
Hello Nate
Looking for a new board and looked at the kilroy 159cm 2020 and the free thinker 156w 2020
IβM a intermediate rider not so good at jumps and stuff yet but hope to be.
I want a fun board that would be easy to do small tricks and have fun on and also having fun down the slope with the rest of the family on skies
Iβm 178 cm tall
Weighs about 83kg
Use size 11 in boots burton photon
And large bindings burton cartel
Nate says
Hi Anders
Thanks for your message.
I think the Free Thinker will be too stiff/aggressive for what you’re looking for. The Kilroy Twin would likely work well for what you’re describing, but size-wise I’d probably be looking a little shorter, if you’re going to be focusing predominantly on freestyle stuff. As an all-mountain length, I think 159 works. Also both the 155 and 159 Kilroy Twins are borderline too narrow. You might get away with the 159 if you have +15/-15 angles, low profile boots (which the Photon’s are) and aren’t going to be carving super deep on it. The 155 is less certain though.
Hope this helps
Ben says
Hello Nate,
Thanks for all the tests and reviews!
It helps for choose.
I snowboard before 2000, I Love it!
I own a few burton boards π
(Dragon 152, custom X 154,
skeleton key 154, process 155 and 3 more for my son π)
My sun ride with the process 155 (heβs age is 15, 175 cm, 63kg)
Now comes the real question π:
what length should i take for the kilroy? to improve my freestyle technique? I sometimes find my dragon 152 to have too little stability.
i love everything on the mountain, even trees and goats π iβm 169 cm/5β6β – 65 kg/143 lbs
Thanks
Greetz ben
Nate says
Hi Ben
Thanks for your message.
Could you let me know your boot size as well. I consider it important for sizing – not just to make sure the board isn’t too narrow, but also to make sure it’s not too wide – and to compensate for with length if it is.
Ben says
Hi Nate,
Of course it is 10,
With medium bindings.
Thanks.
Nate says
Hi Ben
Typically I’d say 148, if you’re going to be using the board to predominantly focus on freestyle. But given your experience with the 152 Dragon, I probably wouldn’t go smaller than the 152. But I wouldn’t go bigger either, particularly if you’re going to be focusing predominantly on freestyle with it.
Hope this helps
Ben says
Hi Nate,
Thanks βΊοΈ
Iβll go for the 152 Kilroy.
happy Holidays,
and enjoy sliding in the snow. π
Nate says
Thanks Ben. Happy holiday’s to you too and hope you have an awesome season! If you think of it at the time let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get it out on snow.
Rico says
Hi Nate
Enjoying your reviews and thought I ask you for an advise – as unfortunately I don’t have access to a lot of boards π
I’m boarding for about 30 years . I ride a Stone Message (traditional camber) for harder snow, and a Proto Type 2 for softer conditions. I’m looking for a replacement / upgrade for my Proto Type 2, because I really miss the pop I get from the Stone Message.
What would you say, ist this a board something to look at if I’m searching for a good carver with pop for softer conditions. I’m never in the park and do not hit big jumps (too old π but enjoy regular and switch carving, some 180ies over small bumps and buttering / playing around on the groomers.
I would really appreciate your advice – thanks.
Nate says
Hi Rico
Thanks for your message.
This board is a good carver for its flex, but it’s still not a hard carver. Good for carves at slower speeds, but when really getting up to speed it’s not as good. Good pop and really easy pop too (don’t have to wind it up too much to extract it). So depending on how hard you wanted to carve, it could definitely work for what you’re describing. If you wanted a little more for carving and a little more pop, then I would look at the Paramount.
Hope this helps
Rico says
Hi Nate
Thank you very much for your reply. Will take look at the Paramount as well.
– Rico
Nate says
You’re very welcome Rico. Curious to know what you go with. If you think of it at the time, let me know what you go with and how you get on, once you get it on snow. Happy riding!
Rico says
Hi Nate
I got my new board at the beginning of this week – and no, it is not a Burton but a GNU Antigravity. Might be a bit of a surprise, but let me explain.
The Paramount looked really interesting, but I just couldn’t get it at a good price. So I decided to open up my search parameters a bit and checked what I could get for around 300$ (which is really cheap here in Switzerland).
This is how I settled on the Antigravity – and I love it so far. We already have spring conditions and the edge hold in the morning is surprisingly good for its flex (which for me feels around 5). I can carve it hard and it handles uneven terrain pretty well. So all in all this is a really great board for the price. I miss a bit of butterabilty, and riding switch is obviously not as easy as with the Never Summer PT2.
So your recommendation had an influence – I went for a board that carves great and I enjoy it π
Thanks again!
Nate says
Hi Rico
Thanks for the update and your feedback on the Antigravity. Really appreciate it, and glad you’re enjoying it and were able to find it for a great price!