Hello and welcome to my top 5 best all mountain snowboard boots for men for the 2018-19 season.
This top 5 will outline what I consider the best all mountain boots currently on the market and will cover a number of different factors that contribute to making a great all mountain boot.
Ratings & Comparisons
As always on SnowboardingProfiles.com the boots will all be given a rating out of 100 based on my scoring system. This is not an exact science (especially with boots as personal fit is so important) but will provide a way to give you a quick look at the performance of each boot.
Of the 26 all-mountain boots that I rated:
Note: Only boots with a flex rating of 6 or 7 were considered for this category.
O.k. let’s get into the top 5!
ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #5
Boot: Adidas Response ADV
Price: View More Info and Current Price Here
Lacing System: Double Boa
Flex: Medium (6/10)
Rating: 88.0/100
The first boots we take a look at on this list are the Adidas Response ADVs.
This is Adidas’ second year of producing BOA boots and the medium flexing Response ADV, are the mid-level BOAs they made – perfect for doing a bit-of-everything with.
They have really good response, great heel hold and all-round have no weaknesses – and of course they have Adidas’ renowned reduced outer-sole – so they’re a great choice for anyone with longer feet, looking to get on a narrower waist width board. Adidas boots are also known to be good for those with wide feet.
These are also the lowest priced boots on this list – and come in a good bit under the average price for this category of boot.
Check out the Video Below for more on the Response
Score Breakdown for the Response
FACTOR | rating (OUT OF 5) | contribution to final score |
|---|---|---|
Response | 4.0 | 20/25 |
Heel Hold | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
Adjustability | 4.0 | 12/15 |
Comfort | 4.0 | 12/15 |
Shock Absorption | 3.5 | 10.5/15 |
Traction | 4.0 | 8/10 |
Reduced Footprint | 5.0 | 5/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 88.0/100 |
ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #4
Boot: K2 Maysis Heat
Price: View More Info and Current Price Here
Lacing System: Double Boa
Flex: Medium-Stiff (7/10)
Rating: 88.0/100
If you’re worried about footprint reduction because you have big feet, then the Maysis won’t be the best choice on this list but otherwise these are awesome boots for those who want charge the whole mountain.
They are nice and responsive, really lock your heel down, are super comfortable and have a good grippy sole for when you have to do any hiking or in an icy car park.
The Heat are new for 2019 and offer a battery powered boot heating system, with 3 different heat settings. This is pretty unique and great for those who ride in seriously cold conditions or who tend to run cold.
These boots also come in a standard version (without the heat liner) which are $150 cheaper. If you’re budget is tighter and/or you don't need the heat, then those might be the better options.
Check out the video for more on the Maysis Heat
Score Breakdown for the Maysis Heat
FACTOR | rating (OUT OF 5) | contribution to final score |
|---|---|---|
Response | 4.0 | 20/25 |
Heel Hold | 5.0 | 15/15 |
Adjustability | 3.5 | 10.5/15 |
Comfort | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
Shock Absorption | 4.0 | 12/15 |
Traction | 4.0 | 8/10 |
Reduced Footprint | 2.0 | 2/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 88.0/100 |
ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #3
Boot: Burton Ion Boa
Price: View More Info and Current Price Here
Lacing System: Double Boa
Flex: Medium-Stiff (7.5 out of 10)
Rating: 88.6/100
The Ion BOAs were new for 2018. The speed lacing versions have been around a long time, but I was glad to see they put out a Boa version for these as I prefer it over the speed lacing, even if it does add another $50 to an already pricey pair of boots.
To be picky if there were anywhere that could use slight improvement it would be the shock absorption. Had they scored higher in shock absorption they would have made #1. If you’re also riding Burton bindings then this shouldn’t be an issue, as their bindings have some of the best shock absorption in the industry but if you’re pairing them with a less shock absorbing bindings, then you might feel it.
You pay for these, the most expensive on this list, but you get back performance – not for the small budget but for comfort and performance they’re an awesome boot, if you’ve got the means for them.
Check out the video for more on the Ion BOAs
This is for the 2018 model, but still relevant for the 2019 model.
Score Breakdown for the Ion Boas
FACTOR | rating (OUT OF 5) | contribution to final score |
|---|---|---|
Response | 4.0 | 20/25 |
Heel Hold | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
Adjustability | 4.0 | 12/15 |
Comfort | 5.0 | 15/15 |
Shock Absorption | 3.0 | 9/15 |
Traction | 4.0 | 8/10 |
Reduced Footprint | 4.0 | 4/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 88.6/100 |
ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #2
Boot: Vans Infuse
Price: View More Info and Current Price Here
Lacing System: Hybrid Boa/Traditional Lacing
Flex: Medium-Stiff (7 out of 10) - but can be 6/10 or 8/10 depending on whether you have the tongue stiffeners in or out.
Rating: 90.8/100
In at #3 we have the Vans Infuse.
One unique thing about these boots is that they have removable tongue stiffeners – so you can really vary the flex feel that you get. There are 2 removable stiffeners – so you can have both in, both out or one or the other in. So, even though I rate these as 7/10 flex, I would say they are more like a range of 6 to 8. So you can make them a bit stiffer or a bit softer with those tongue stiffeners.
Also, they have a mixed lacing system which is predominantly traditional lace but also has a Boa in there. The Boa works on a harness that cranks down on your ankle to keep your heel in place. So, you get the great adjustability of traditional lace with the great heel hold of Boa.
Other than that, these are very comfortable and responsive boots.
I liked them so much I bought them! Why didn't I buy #1 - well a. because Vans boots fit me very well (I have flat feet and a normal width foot) and b. my brother bought the Tactical ADV (and loves them!) but I couldn't copy him right!?
Check out the video for more about the Infuse
Score Breakdown for the Infuse
FACTOR | rating (OUT OF 5) | contribution to final score |
|---|---|---|
Response | 4.0 | 20/25 |
Heel Hold | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
Adjustability | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
Comfort | 4.0 | 12/15 |
Shock Absorption | 4.0 | 12/15 |
Traction | 4.0 | 8/10 |
Reduced Footprint | 4.5 | 4.5/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 90.8/100 |
ALL-MOUNTAIN BOOT #1
Boot: Adidas Tactical ADV
Price: View More Info and Current Price Here
Lacing System: Traditional Lacing
Flex: Medium (6/10)
Rating: 91.8/100
And in at #1, we have the Tactical ADV – the only boot on this season’s list to feature something other than a BOA system.
For anyone looking for the ultimate in reduced footprint – great with anyone with bigger feet that want to fit on narrower boards – the Tactical ADVs are a great option. They're also great for those with wider feet.
But that’s certainly not the only reason these boots are here. They are also responsive, comfortable and one of the the best you’ll find at absorbing shock – thanks in a large part to the boost tech that’s used in the boots.
Check out the Video Below for More About the Tactical ADVs
Score Breakdown for the Tactical ADV
FACTOR | rating (OUT OF 5) | contribution to final score |
|---|---|---|
Response | 4.0 | 20/25 |
Heel Hold | 3.5 | 10.5/15 |
Adjustability | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
Comfort | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
Shock Absorption | 5.0 | 15/15 |
Traction | 3.5 | 7/10 |
Reduced Footprint | 5.0 | 5/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 91.8/100 |
Over to You…
There you have my top 5 all-mountain snowboard boots for the 2018/19 season.
Check out the links under each boot to see more details and to research prices and availability.
Notes
This list is made up of boots that have a 6/10 or 7/10 flex – which are typically used for do-it-all, all-mountain riding. However, some predominantly freestyle riders like a stiffer boot and some freeriders like something a little softer, so they can really be used by almost anyone (except probably a bit stiff for beginners).
This list could easily be a top 15 and still have quality boot options in it – such is the nature of boots that have around that 6/10 or 7/10 flex (hence the high average price and high average score [see top of post]). But I didn’t have time to expand the list for this season (I will try to next season or possibly even later this season).
There are some great offerings in this category by the likes of Ride, Thirty Two, DC & Salomon that haven’t quite made it in. If you’re looking for a boot in this category and you’ve found something that looks good but it’s not on this list, let me know what they are in the comments below and I can give you my opinion on them.
Awesome post Nate! I am not very good a snowboarding, but I try my best, and I really like how you have set up your reviews on this page.
Have you got one for the ladies? My beginner equipment is definitely due for an upgrade, and I’d love to see you review one for the gals.
On a side note, those red adidas look hot! Very low profile, and stylish.
Great review!
Hey Survival Chick – glad you liked the post.
I have some ladies snowboard boots posts in the works currently which are due to be published sometime this month. Come back at the end of the month and there should be a women’s all mountain boots post and a women’s freestyle boots post out.
In the meantime if you are looking to upgrade some of your other equipment (i.e. bindings and board) you can check out the following links to see if anything there is to your liking – the posts below are in the same kind of style as this one.
Best Women’s Snowboard Bindings
Best Women’s Snowboards
Love the Nike’s! Although the Salomon would be better for a friend of mine. He likes boots that are a little stiffer. I will have to send him to your site and see what he thinks. If it was me, the Nike’s would win. Do any of these boots come in different colors? Possibly the Nike’s in black? Thanks.
Hey Liz – send your friend over – the more visitors the better! The Salomon F4.0 or Ride Trident would be great for that all mountain rider who prefers his boots stiffer.
Most boots come in different colorways – the Nike also come in a black version and a white version in addition to the red one’s pictured above.
Thanks for stopping by
This is a great write-up – I feel extremely well informed after reading it. I feel very confident that I could choose one of these boots and make the right choice based on the information provided. I really like the Nike boots – I pretty much like all things Nike – one question do they come in a color other than red?
Thanks – Jeff
Hey Jeff
Yes the Nike Kaiju also comes in a black colorway and a white colorway.
Thanks for visiting.
Hello Nathanial, If you have ever seen me on a snowboard before you would know I would LOVE to own my own pair or these badboys. I always get rentals at the slopes because I only go a couple times a year. BUT I really like the Men’s All-Mountain Boot, the #5 boot. The color is sick and everything. Which ones would your recommend for a not so good snowboarder like myself.
.. i still have much to learn on the board. lol
Hey Billy
First time I’ve been called Nathanial! But it’s got a ring to it 🙂
Probably a lot of these boots will be too stiff for you if you are still a beginner or intermediate rider. If I was you I would check out my list of the top beginner snowboard boots – they’re cheaper too! Check out my top 5 beginner boots at the link below.
Top 7 Men’s Beginner Snowboard Boots
Nathan,
I own a pair of Nike Zoom Force 1’s and they have been serving me great for the last few years. I’m thinking of getting another pair that’s a little bit softer just so I can get more room to move around without affecting my orientation too much. I’ll check these out that you’ve recommended!
Hey Wing
Thanks for visiting. Most of these boots will be slightly softer than the Zoom Force Ones, except maybe the Trident. The Zoom Force Ones are probably about an 7.5 or 8 out of 10 I’d say. So if you want to go just a little bit softer the first 4 boots in this list should be suitable,
If you want to go a little softer than that, check out my top 5 freestyle boots at the link below.
>>Snowboarding Profiles Top 5 Men’s Freestyle Snowboard Boots
Nate,
I have the Burton Moto and I like the boot, but I feel that I’m starting to need slightly more stiffness since at the end of my limited time last season, there were times when I wanted the boot to respond faster. I have the Flux DS on a Slash Brainstorm (as you may remember) and there’s something in the component chain that feels … slow.
I don’t think I should go from medium-soft to medium-stiff like your picks on this page. Are there any all-mountain boots you recommend for a low intermediate rider like me who needs a true medium flex (I’m guessing)?
Thanks,
John
Atlanta, GA
Hi John
Thanks for your message. I remember your setup (you had the Rome Tour originally I think but you didn’t like it and switched to the Brainstorm, if I remember correctly?).
I agree that moving to a medium would be your best bet.
I would check out the following post. It’s a freestyle boot top 5 but they’re really what I’d consider all-mountain-freestyle (whereas this list is more all-mountain-freeride). The boots in that list are medium flex and I think something there would work well.
~ Top 5 All-Mountain Freestyle Snowboard Boots
If you like your current boots then the Burton AMB might be a good option – the Burton Imperial is also another option (though more expensive than the AMB). But if you’re happy to switch brands, I think anything in there would be good options. 32 tend to make boots that are good for those with slightly wider feet so if you think you have wider feet, then the 32 Binary Boa is a good bet.
Hope this helps
ami say something about ride lasso ?
Hi Rico
Re your comment on the other post, I will compare the Lasso to the Trident.
The Lasso are softer flexing than the Trident. They are more of a medium flex (6/10) compared to the Trident’s Medium-Stiff flex (8/10).
I think that they would go well with your setup which is all around that medium flex (your Cartels and your Lib Tech Travis Rice Pro). They will be more forgiving than the Trident’s but will also be less responsive.
They are low profile (like the trident’s and all ride boots) and have a similar amount of shock absorption. They are suitable for anyone intermediate and up – whereas the Trident’s are more for advanced and up.
They are both quality boots – the main difference is that the Lassos are more flexible, more forgiving and less responsive than the Tridents.
Hope this gives you a bit more to go off.
Hey Nate,
I just wanted to ask you about the Adidas Blauvelt boots – how did you find the fit to be?
Are they true to size? Did you go a size or half a size down from your normal shoe size as per your boot buying guide?
I wanted to get your opinion as I can’t get to a store to try these and I’m being told to buy a size bigger then my normal shoe size which is the opposite to what I normally do for snowboard boots – I normally get a size smaller!
Thanks
Hi Prem
It’s hard to say because everyone’s feet are different. Even the same length feet can fit differently because of different shapes and different arches.
In my experience this boot is a 10 for me and I’m a 10 in shoe size. So I didn’t go down. But I didn’t go down for the Vans boots I currently own either – they are a 10. But for some I would go down half a size. That would be the usual for most but this isn’t always the case and brands differ as you know.
I wouldn’t go a size bigger though. I’m not sure who told you that but they probably have something about the shape of their feet that made them need a size bigger. If you usually go a size down, then I would say go half a size down from your normal shoe size or get something that is your normal shoe size.
Definitely make sure that the store you buy from will let you return them if they don’t fit – you want to make sure you get the fit right and if you can’t try on in store, definitely go somewhere with a good return policy. If they have more than one size and you can afford the outlay, then it can be a good idea to grab too pairs and return the pair that doesn’t fit. If you’re really game you could get 3 pairs – one half down, one shoe size and one half up. Otherwise for 2 sizes I’d try shoe size and half down (if available). I don’t think you’ll be going a whole size up or down from your shoe size in this case. But like I say it’s hard to tell, as every foot is different. Just make sure you go with a good return policy and that lowers the risk.
Hope this helps
Thanks Nate, that really helps! So I cant seem to find the right size in the blauvelts, hence I’m now looking at the Adidas samba and the zx 500 also. Did you find Adidas fit true to size or max a half a size smaller then normal in general?
Does this apply to the Nike Vapens also?
Sorry for asking you about 3 types of boots in one post.
Happy Easter by the way!
Hi Prem
Sorry for the late response – had a full on weekend demoing gear and then took Monday off for my fiancée’s birthday.
I find that Adidas boots all fit the same for me – and that was true to size.
Same for Nike boots from memory.
Hi Nate,
I’m trying to decide if getting a stiffer boot is the right approach or whether I should get something a bit softer. I traditionally just ride the mountain but having been venturing into the park a bit more. The boots I’m looking at are the Burton ion or the Addidas ATV to go with the Yes Greats and Burton Genesis, what would you recommend?
Thanks,
Adam
Hi Adam
Sounds like an awesome setup so far with the Greats and the Genesis!
I think the ATV or Ion would go with this setup. To more accurately match the flex of the board and bindings you have, something from the following list would be a slightly better match in terms of flex.
>>My Top Freestyle (medium flex) Snowboard Boots
But in saying that, if you feel like you want to go a bit stiffer in the boot, if you think that’s something you’ll like, then I do find that if any part of your setup is going to be stiffer, then boots are the way to do it – so you could certainly go with something 7/10 for boots to match with 5/10 board/bindings. Hope that makes sense. I wouldn’t recommend going with a 5/10 boot on a stiffer board – like a 7/10 flexing board – and I don’t like softer bindings on a stiffer board – but stiffer boots on a softer binding/board setup can definitely work.
Personally, I’d probably go with something more like 5/10 or 6/10 in boots for that setup – but some people do prefer a stiffer boot.
Hope this makes sense and helps with your decision
Thanks Nate, I phoned around my local shops and was able to get a pair of the Imperials and AMB for roughly the same price (will return the ones I don’t like). I know you like the AMB from your review but have you tried the imperials? From reading around online it sounds like they’re very similar boots with the imperials being slightly more responsive.
Thanks,
Adam
Hi Adam
I haven’t tried the Imperials but they do look similar. Imperials are slightly more expensive but you’ve managed to get them for a good price by the sounds of it. Having both to try them out is a good way to go too. I’d be interested to hear which ones you prefer.
What’s the main difference between the Ride Trident and Insano? I know the Tridents have the 3rd boa, but is it worth the extra cost? I’ve been riding DC Travis Rice boots the past 4 seasons, but want to try out Ride boots this year.
Nate, what’s the main differences between the Ride Trident and Ride Insano and does the 3rd boa make it worth the extra $100 to go with the Trident. I like a stiffer boot and I like to ride fast. I don’t do the park at all, just fast on groomers, trees and everything else. I’ve been riding the DC Travis Rice boot the past 4 seasons. I currently ride a Lib Tech T. Rice Pro with Burton Cartel Bindings.
Hi Casey
I would say that the main 2 differences are:
1. The triple boa which you mentioned; and
2. The Insano’s are a little bit stiffer
There’s not a huge difference in flex – they’re both pretty stiff. The Insanos rate a 9/10 with the Tridents at 8/10. The DC Travis Rice are rated a 9/10 as well. So in terms of sticking with the same flex, the Insanos are more in line with your current boots (though different brands do feel different in the way they flex).
The Triple Boa just gives you that little bit more in adjustability. You can tweak how tight you want different parts of the boots more independently – but that’s not a big deal, IMO. I class the Insanos as Freeride boots (which the Tridents are bordering on too, but I chose to put them in this category) as well as the DC TRice. You can check out my freeride list below if you’d like.
>>My Top 5 Freeride Boots
But yeah, it depends on how much you value being able to independently adjust as much as possible and also whether you’re willing to go to a slightly softer flexing boot (if you were to go Trident) – all be it not by that much.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision.
I went to the store today and checked out the insanos. I’m not a fan of how the toe box and heel are just leather. I’d be worried that the toe would get really beat up from my board resting on it on the chairlift as well as the leather on the heel from being pressed against the back of the binding. I think I’m going to go with this year’s DC t rice boots. They seem way more durable and since my old boots are t rice’s, I know they fit me well and are super comfortable.
Hi Casey
Thanks for the update.
Nothing wrong with going for the tried and true if you know they do the job well for you.
Hi Nate
What is your opinion on 2017/18 on ride trident? I really like to carve most of the time while I am snowboarding.
Hi Champ
The Tridents are great boots for carving. Just know that they are quite stiff (8/10) – so you’ll want to be an advanced rider. But if you’re at an advanced level and like to carve, then the Trident’s are a great option, IMO. If you more at an intermediate level, then I would recommend something softer flexing.
Hey Nate,
I just got hired to work as a terrain park attendant (Park crew worker) at my local mountain. I have been in desperate need of new boots any ways but wanted to get you opinion. Because I am going to be on and off my board 50/50 all day, would you recommend a stiffer boot or a softer boot? I have been interested in the K2 Maysis for a while now. What do you think I should do? Any other suggestions would also be helpful, want to invest in a really good pair that suits the work I will be doing.
Thanks,
Spencer
Hi Spencer
I can’t say I’ve ever worked as a terrain park attendant, so I couldn’t say for sure. But if it involves testing out the features, then I would say something softer is going to be better for testing out rails, boxes etc. But something stiffer better for testing out the large jumps. I know that doesn’t help!
In terms of getting on and off your board all day, I’m not sure that stiff or soft would matter too much. I guess the only thing is if you’re riding short little bits slowly and then stopping and getting off and then riding another short bit and stopping and never really picking up speed and have to do that a lot during the day, then something softer would be better – just because a softer setup tends to be easier to maneuver with at slower speeds.
But that’s all just my theory on it, as, like I say, I’ve never actually done that type of work before, so I couldn’t say for sure. Is there anyone on your team that you could ask to see what they prefer?
Hi!
Which is the best for skinny ankles? I need one boot for skinny ankles and reduce footprint like burton or adidas.
Thanks
PD: Use all mountain frestyle
Hi Roger
In terms of something that’s good for skinny ankles, I think something with a double boa system is a good way to go. They usually produce the best heel hold. And if you’re looking at good reduced footrprint then yeah, Burton, Adidas, Ride are a good way to go. And Vans are also doing well, in that respect too.
I think in terms of boots with great heel hold and reduced footprint, the Vans Infuse Boa (medium-stiff flex) is a good choice. This is a mixture of traditional lacing and boa but has great heel hold with that boa working on the ankle. Or Vans Aura (medium flex). Some options from Ride are the Ride Trident (mid-stiff),
and Ride Lasso (medium flex).
Or if you want something Burton or Adidas, then the Adidas Response ADV (medium flex) or the Burton Photon Boa (mid-stiff), Burton Ion Boa (mid-stiff) or Burton Concord Boa (medium) could work for you. Since you’re looking at all-mountain-freestyle you might want something more mid-flex, so maybe Aura, Response ADV, Concord Boa or Lasso would be the best choices. But you could go more mid-stiff if you felt like you wanted something a bit stiffer.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Seems like you give some great advice and really care about helping people choose the right gear.
I am considering getting new boots and bindings. I am currently riding older salomon F20 and very old burton c16 bindings on a ’13 never summer cobra. Lately I am realizing the c16s are digging into my calfs a bit.
I ride most terrain, love powder in the trees, small jumps except I don’t do rails or boxes and such. I have been looking at the burton concord and salomon dialogue, both with double boa. What do you think of these 2 boot options with burton genesis bindings on a cobra?
Thanks in advance,
Mike
Hi Mike
I think those boots and bindings would be a good match with the Cobra. They’re all around that mid-flex range. I find the Genesis super comfortable so there shouldn’t be any comfort problems there.
If at all possible it’s best to try boots on before you buy – just to get that fit right – everyone’s feet are different and each brand fits slightly differently. Even if you can’t try a particular model on in person, it’s a good idea to try that brand.
Since you already have Salomon boots and assuming they fit well, then that’s probably the safest bet, if you’re unable to try on in person. I mean they would have changed since the F20s, but still should fit similarly. Well done for having boots last so long! But best bet is to try on in person.
In terms of flex/response, both the Concord Boa and the Dialogue will be similar in terms of flex and response as the F20s had when they were new – but they’ll probably feel stiffer/more responsive than them now as they would have softened up a bit over time.
Hope this helps.
Hi Nate,
Thanks for the quick response.
Yes, I totally agree with always trying on boots, which I had, I just forgot to mention that. I tried both and they are both pretty comfortable. I am interested in these 2 because they are both mid-flex, comfortable and both have dual zone boa. I tried them on again today and I think the Burton are a bit more comfortable and I think I like the feel of the new England rope over the steel cables. So I’m pretty sure I am leaning towards the Concord. Too bad too cause I had a pair of last year’s dialogues lined up for $175 but if I get the concord’s, at least I will be getting $50 off.
So now I’m trying to decide between the Cartel and geneisis bindings…haha.
Regarding boot to binding fit….assuming I go with the concord’s and either cartel or geneisis would you suggest large or medium bindings? I tried the boots on today and slipped into a medium and a large binding. The medium rubbed a little on the sides of the boot in the back around the heel area of the outsole of the boot. And the front of the boot hung over the gas pedal a little even with it all the way out but it seemed it would function fine. I would just want to make sure I have enough power over my toe edge. The large binding of course easily fit but it seemed the structure was a good deal deeper front to back than the medium. Not much toe overhang without any extension of the gas pedal. What do you think? I know I just gotta decide my maybe you can give me some of your thoughts to consider. Will the different size bindings cause the board feel to be a little different or any other things like that to consider?
Thanks,
Mike
Hi Mike
I do find that Burton bindings do tend to fit pretty snug in the heel end of the boot – but this is a good thing, so long as you’re not actually having to force your boot in there, and potentially cause damage to your boots. It should still go in relatively easily. I have size 10s too and I prefer medium Burton bindings and find that my heels do fit snug but not to a point that I’m having to force them in there. I can definitely still ride Large Burtons though, but I prefer Medium. But yeah, I do out the gas pedal out most of the way. I don’t have Burton boots, so they won’t be exactly the same heel-wide – but Burton’s sizings are based on their boots, and they recommend up to 10s for the medium, so I think it would be fine.
A reasonable amount of toe overhang over the end of the gas pedal is fine.
With 10s, you really can go either way. If you’re worried about the rubbing, then go Large but otherwise, I’d say medium.
The other thing is if you were on a wider board, then going large would potentially give you more leverage on the edges as the bindings would get closer to the edges but usually in that case you would have larger boots and would go large anyway. The Cobra 161 should be fine with Mediums.
In terms of going Cartels vs Genesis, it’s a close call. The Cartels are mildly stiffer (6/10 vs 5/10 on the Genesis) but the Genesis are more comfortable and I find they have just a little more board feel (but both bindings have great board feel). The Cartels are cheaper too, which is a plus. Typically I’d say if you’re leaning more towards freestyle, then go Genesis and if you;re leaning more Freeride, then Cartel.
Hello Nate,
Debating on 3 boots for my Salomon First Call board with Salomon Alibi Bindings….Ride Lasso, Ride Fuse, and or Adidas Response? Maybe you have another boot in mind that would work better for my set up? Thanks for reading bud.
Hi Nick
I think they would all work with the First Call. The First Call is a mid-flexing board and those boots are mid to mid-stiff flexing and it’s always good to try to get a close flex match. I would say Fuse 7/10, Lasso 6/10 and Response 6/10 – I know Ride rate the Lasso 7 as well, but I just felt it was a little softer than that. The Alibis are what I would call a 7/10 flex. So those boots will match your setup well, IMO. If the boots and bindings are a little stiffer than board, I usually find that’s fine – I just don’t like it the other way around – softer boots/bindings with stiffer board doesn’t work for me.
If you you can try them on in store at all, that would be ideal, just to make sure they fit your feet well – different brands usually fit a little different and everyone’s feet are a little different (i.e. high arches, flat feet, skinny ankles, wide feet etc).
Hope this helps
Thanks Nate,
I did try on the Burton Imperial’s and those felt pretty darn good as did the Ruler. Lasso’s felt a bit uncomfortable in the calf area when walking and couldn’t find a shop with Ride Fuse or Adidas Response bummer. So I may go with the Imperial or Ruler.
Hi Nick
Yeah if you know the Burton’s fit well, then that’s a pretty safe bet. Likely that the Fuse will fit similar to the Lasso – though they can fit differently within brands. Without being able to try on the Adidas Response, it would be a gamble, especially when you know that the Burton’s feel comfortable.
I’d say that the Imperial’s are probably the better option (but cost a bit more too). I’d say that the Imperials are about a 6/10 flex and the Ruler’s are more of a 5/10 flex. I think I like the sound of 6/10 for your setup – but you could certainly go 5/10 and it would be fine – so Rulers are a possibility, but I think the Imperials have just the bit more response.
Which is the most comfortable one for men?
Hi Lenny
Comfort depends largely to what fits your foot the best. Everyone’s feet are different. Some liners are more plush than others, some have more dampening in the soles, which affects how comfortable they are when they ride – and the way the boot conforms to your foot, certainly all play a part. But if you get a boot that doesn’t fit your foot properly, then it won’t be comfortable. Fit is the most important thing.
I’m an instructor and curious what I should get that’s very durable but still comfy. I’m an advanced/expert rider.
Hi Travis
Unfortunately, I don’t really make judgement on durability. I don’t tend to have gear for long enough to know how durable it will be (apart from gear I own myself of course).
As an expert rider, you would probably appreciate something relatively stiff, but at the same time as an instructor, I imagine you are often riding at pretty slow speeds, which is where something a little softer would be better in terms of getting better maneuverability at slow speeds. But I’d say not too soft – so I think you’re in the right place on this list – unfortunately I can’t really give you any opinion on durability.
Hope this helps
Hello Nate,
I am searching for the snowboard&boots and some help from you. Mostly I am All-Mountain-Freeride rider, I like doing tricks, jumps…, but in my area there are no snowboard parks so I am usually combining groomers with off the lane, forest riding. I think I am less beginner and more intermediate rider.
Recently I bought Rome 390 Boss bindings, as I had a good offer and now I am searching for the snowboard and boots.
What I like is GNU Carbon Credit BTX Asym snowboard, and I wanted to ask you if it can go with those Rome bindings and what boots do you suggest with those two?
Also please suggest maybe some other board&boots according to what I have described above and which could fit these Rome bindings.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Keep it rocking!
Hi Dalibor
I think you could match the 390 Boss to the Carbon Credit – the Carbon Credit is going to be a softer flex (4/10 I would say) than the 390 Boss – which are rated as 6/10 – not a binding that I’ve tested so I can’t attest to that flex rating but let’s assume that’s fairly accurate. Going a little stiffer with bindings on a slightly softer board (so long as they’re not too far apart) is usually fine in my experience. I don’t like it the other way around – i.e. a softer binding on a stiffer board, but a slightly stiffer binding on a softer board is fine, IMO.
For boots, again, I think going the same or just slightly stiffer than the board, is a good way to go, so anything from 4/10 to 6/10 would be fine, IMO. Checking out the following lists would be a good place to start.
>> Top 7 Beginner Boots
>>My Top Freestyle (medium flex) Snowboard Boots
Hope this helps
Hello,
I enjoyed the article; it was really informative. I have some questions that maybe you could help with… and possibly give your opinion on.
I am planning to couple Union Atlas bindings with a Capita Mercury board and was looking for all-mountain, double boa (by preference) boots that would work well with the Union bindings.
I am hoping to find a boot that is of the flex rating you chose when reviewing the boots above, and that are both comfortable and responsive. If you can think of boots that would couple with the bindings along with align with the factors I mentioned above, I would love to hear your opinion. Also, let me know what you think about the board/bindings if you’re familiar with them.
If there are factors I should consider more than others when picking a boot, please explain in detail if you would.
Thanks!
Hi Shane
Thanks for your message.
First of all the Mercury is a very nice board, IMO. And the Atlas are good bindings and a good match for the Mercury.
In my opinion, everything on this list would work with Union bindings and with the Mercury. Really it would just be making sure you got the right sized Union bindings for both board and boots. If you’re not sure, let me know your boot size and the size of the Mercury you are looking at.
So, the Burton Ion, K2 Maysis LTD (or regular Maysis) and the Adidas Response would all be a good match to that setup, IMO.
A couple of other options that didn’t quite make this list are the Ride Lasso and the Salomon Synapse Boa.
I would say that the most important factor for boots is that they fit your feet well and are comfortable for you. So, if you can try them on in person before buying, even if you end up buying online, that’s the best way to go – and if you can’t find a particular model in a local shop, try something on from that brand – they may not be the exact fit of the model you’re looking for but should be close. Part of fit is comfort and part of fit is heel hold too.
After that, the most important, IMO, is matching the flex to the rest of your setup.
So fit and flex are the most important, IMO. Then shock absorption, traction, on and off ease, that sort of thing are secondary and more or less important depending on how you like to ride. E.g. traction is less important if you don’t do any hiking in them (though still nice to have in an icy car park!) but if you like to hike the backcountry, then traction becomes more important.
Hope this helps
three boards for all mountain freeride, carving (no euros), small natural jumps.
1. lib tech t rice pro 161.5
2. capita mercury 159
3. Standard Yes 159
6’0ft, 190lbs, 12 boot.
Any recommendations for a low profile boot and bindings to match best board for purpose? thanks
Hi Trent
Thanks for your message and apologies for the slow response (currently preparing for the imminent arrival of the birth of my son!)
I wasn’t sure if you are saying you have those 3 boards and looking for a boot to match – or if you’re also asking for my opinion on the board? But anyway, in terms of boots:
I would say that anything from this list that’s low profile (Adidas Tactical ADV and Response, Vans Infuse and Burton Ion) would all suit any of those boards. Possibly I would say the Infuse and Ion are better for the T Rice Pro and Mercury just because they’re a little stiffer and will provide more power to drive those boards, but the Adidas options would work too – and they should all work well with the Standard. But most importantly, IMO, is fit. The best fitting out of those 4 options, would be what I would go with. If you can try on, that’s the best option, but if not then – if you have wide feet, then go with an Adidas option. If you have high arches avoid the Vans Infuse.
In terms of boards – assuming you don’t own those already – I would say that the Mercury and the T Rice Pro would be pushing it in terms of being too narrow normally, but going with low profile you should be fine, assuming you don’t ride with too straight a back foot – e.g. if you ride with angles like +18/-3, you might still be pushing it width-wise but otherwise you should be OK, IMO. The Standard should be fine regardless, IMO.
In terms of length, I think those sizes would all be a good fit for you.
In terms of the style of the boards, I would say that:
1. The T Rice pro is the most aggressive, followed by the Mercury, followed by the Standard.
2. The T Rice pro is behind the others when it comes to powder, IMO
3. The Mercury is the most freeride oriented followed by the Standard and then the T Rice Pro which is the most freestyle oriented
4. I preferred carving on the Mercury and Standard but the T Rice Pro is a good carver too. With the extra length and effective edge you would get going with the 161.5 T Rice Pro, it would be closer
5. In terms of jumps, I would say they’re all pretty good in that department but in terms of small natural jumps, I think the Standard would be choice of the 3.
For bindings, check out the following:
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
Which would all be a good match, IMO, for those boards.
Hope this helps with your decision
Appreciate the response and congrats on the newborn!
Went with the Mercury 159 cm board ( 2018 was 449 cad so pretty good deal here) . foot appears to fit well in 11.5 (will try 11 but doubt it) so ill try several of the suggested boots at a local store. take care!
Thanks Trent! And you’re very welcome. Hope you enjoy your new gear!
Nate
Are the Van’s Infuse Boots big or small footprint? Other review sites say they’re low profile like Burton and Adidas but you have them ranked as a 2 in low profile which I assume means they’re larger then average for the boot size
Hi Ryan
Thanks for the message. And thanks for pointing that out. The Infuse (and other Vans boots) are low profile these days. I apologize that score has leaked through the cracks from old Vans boots. So yeah, of the brands that I look at Adidas, Burton, Vans and Ride tend to be the lowest profile, Infuse included.
As an example the outersole length on my Vans Infuse (size 10) are 2.5cm longer than the Mondoprint. Mondo on the 10s is 28cm and the length of the outersole is 30.5cm. The lowest profile that I’ve measured is the Adidas Tactical ADVs which had just a 1.7cm difference. The longest boots I’ve measured were 4.5cm difference between Mondo and outersole. So yeah, Vans are up there in terms of low profile these days.
Hope this helps and thanks for pointing that out. I will be updating this list for the 2018-19 season soon, and I’ll make sure that it’s corrected then.
Have you ridden both the Infuse and the Tactical ADVs? I currently have the adidas which are super damp and pretty responsive but you do lose some board feel because that boost is so cushy.
Was wondering how you’d compare the response of the Van’s with the tongue stiffener in and power strap tight.
I had the Acerras too but they just were not comfortable so went with the Tacticals. Did not even think about the Vans but am always looking for additional options to add to my line up
Hi Ryan
The Infuse have better board feel, IMO, but are still pretty cush. Response-wise, they are the equal of the ADVs – and with both tongue stiffeners in each boot, I’d say probably even just a bit more responsive.
Just note though that they are a very different fit. The Infuse are narrower in the toe box (so if you have wider feet, then the ADVs will be a better fit). They also have less room for the top of your foot. I’ve heard people with high arches say that the top of their feet are squashed in them. I’ve got pretty flat feet, so they’re fine for me, but if you’ve got higher arches, that might be an issue, fit-wise.
If possible always a good idea to try them on first, but if you can’t then keep those things in mind.
Awesome thanks for the heads up on the sizing. Cant wait yo read your new gear reviews
You’re very welcome Ryan
Hi Nate
This will be my 4th season in snowboard, about 7-10 days per season, but a I planing to do more. Last season a started to stretch my boundaries in Powder. I like to carve on the slope as well. I’m about the buy my very first boots (till now a i was renting, mostly one of Burtons speed Zone system boots). But i felt those too soft, probably because those was realy used.
The Ride Triad, and the Ride Fuse catched my eyes.
What is your opinion about these boots, is there a main difference between them, witch should I buy, or is there any other boots in your mind?
Thanks,
Viktor
Hi Viktor
Thanks for your message.
I’d say the main difference between the Triad and the Fuse is that the Fuse is a stiffer, more responsive boot. I’d say the Triad is around a 5/10 flex, maybe even a touch softer than that, whereas the Fuse is more like 7/10. So Triad are going to be a more playful softer feeling boot. Though I imagine they will have a bit more stiffness than hire boots. The Fuse are a more aggressive/responsive boot.
I would say ability level on the Fuse is more upper intermediate to advanced and upper beginner/lower intermediate to advanced for the Triad.
With the days you have under your belt, and the style that you’re describing, then something between 5 & 7 in terms of flex will work well. If you get a chance to try boots on, then I’d highly recommend it as everyone’s feet are different – so in terms of fit, it’s hard to tell without trying them on. One thing is that Ride boots tend to be good for normal widthed feet, but if you’ve got wide feet less suitable.
Hope this helps
Thanks nate, it helped!
I had a chance to tri these boots, and a will try the last seasen’s Nitro Thunder, and the new Nitro Anthem and Nitro Venture.
Any thought about these.
It’s harder than i thought to buy the first pair of snowboard boots.
Thanks Again
Viktor
Hi Viktor
I don’t know a lot about Nitro boots, unfortunately, but based on specs, they all fall in that 5-7 flex range. The Thunder being the softest most playful option (5/10) and the Venture the stiffer, more aggressive option (7/10), with the Anthem in between (6/10). I have no idea about fit for Nitro boots, but since you’ll get a chance to try them on, you’ll get a feel for how well they suit your feet/ankles/calves.
Hi Nate,
Brilliant site, and great reviews for all standards of rider, and I have found it all immensely helpful so far.
I have narrowed my first board, bindings and boots down to the Yes Basic board at 156W, with the Now x Yes bindings (I have read that you don’t / can’t review the Now equipment, matched up to the Adidas Response ADV boots.
I am going into my second season of ‘boarding (at the ripe old age of 49). Managed to get a good number of days in last year, at 15, so am looking to progress quite quickly with more days on the slopes this winter (hopefully up to 20)
Based on your honesty and expertise, I went for the 156W board because I’m 5’10”, weighing around 75kgs, with size 10 feet (has to be a 10 because I have VERY wide feet), and I know the fit on the Adidas is good for my feet at that size….as all of my trainers are Adidas, in size 10 (and I have about 20 pairs)!
I went for the Now x Yes bindings because I wanted to “feel” the board with the extra stiffness in the bindings and boots, and am hoping they will last a few seasons.
Possible future purchases will be another Basic board, but in the 159W length, specifically for off-piste riding, but by then I’ll probably be “feeling” everything a bit more.
Thanks again for your honest, and helpful advice. Great work, and enjoy the slopes.
Hi Steve.
You’re very welcome. If you think of it, let me know how you get on once you’ve had a chance to ride with your new setup. And when you look to grab gear again, feel free to ask for any recommendations/opinions. Happy Riding!
Hi Nate,
Love using your site to help me narrow down options when picking out gear! I’m finally upgrading some of my equipment and am struggling on what to do. I’m 6’1 at 175 and I have been riding a Yes Typo (158) with Burton Rulers (10 US) and Burton Custom bindings.
I have recently purchased a Yes Basic Decade (158) and am trying to figure out what bindings and boots to go with the board. I’m an intermediate/advanced rider and I ride mostly in the Tahoe area. I prefer carving in trees, moguls and small to medium jumps/side hits. I rarely if ever do any jibbing. I have tried on the Adidas Tactical ADVs in 9.5 and although they fit well in the store, moving around in them caused them to be uncomfortable. I have very high arches in my feet and the tongue was pressing down on the top of my foot. There was also a pressure point on the back of my heel when I leaned forward. I did try on the Adidas Samba ADV and found them to be way more comfortable but I am worried they might be too soft for the board. With my high arches and stiff(ish) board (7/10), do you recommend a boot/binding combo?
Thanks,
Adam
Hi Adam
Thanks for your message.
I haven’t ridden the Basic Decade, so I couldn’t say for sure, but in my experience YES flex ratings tend to be on the high-side, so I would guess that the Basic Decade would be no more than a 6/10 in terms of flex, but couldn’t say for sure.
I would rate the Samba a 5/10 in terms of flex. So it’s close. Maybe just on the soft side, but not far off.
In terms of high arches, I have a flat left foot and a semi-flat right foot, so I don’t have that issue, so I don’t really get a feel for boots that have higher or lower arches. I have been told by someone who does have high arches that they can’t get into Vans boots, so that’s one I would definitely avoid, but outside of that I’m not sure. Did you try the ADV in a 10 as well? Or just the 9.5? I’ve heard others say to go half a size down for Adidas, but for me they tend to fit best true-to-size. Best bet is to try some more on to see how they feel for your arches. But in terms of flex, going with something around a 6/10 would be a safe bet, though you could get away with a 5/10 (like the Samba). Also, if you find your Burton rulers to be OK with your arches, then there’s good chance other Burton boots will also feel good there. Something like the Burton Imperial would be a good flex match, IMO.
For bindings, again looking at something around 6/10 or 7/10 in terms of flex would be a good way to go. Or 5/10 but that would be my third choice.
Check out the following for some options.
>>Top 5 All Mountain Bindings
>>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings
Hope this helps with your search
Hi Nate,
I enjoyed the article. I have some questions that maybe you could help with.
I am planning to buy Jones Explorer(159) snowboard. And I can’t still decide which bindings would be the best fit for the Explorer: Union Atlas, Union Force or Burton Cartel.
I would like to ask you which bindings do you think would work the best for Jones Explorer? And also which of the boots that you have listed in your article would work with that setup (My boot size is 9US – 27cm)?
I am hoping to find a boot that is of the flex rating you chose when reviewing the boots above, and that are both comfortable and responsive. If you can think of boots that would couple with the bindings along with align with the factors I mentioned above, I would love to hear your opinion.
Also, let me know if you have in mind some other bindings that should be good for Jones Explorer.
Thanks!
Hi Hristijan
Thanks for your message.
All of the bindings you’ve mentioned would work with the Explorer, IMO. I would rate the Explorer a 6.5/10 in terms of flex, and I would rate the bindings as follows, in terms of flex:
Atlas: 7/10
Force: 6/10
Cartel: 6/10
So, I think all would be a suitable flex match, for sure. The Atlas probably the best flex match, as I would usually lean towards slightly stiffer rather than slightly softer for bindings, relative to the board’s flex. But really, I think the Cartel and Force would work well for this board, too.
Which one is best for you depends on what you value the most – response or board feel. In terms of response, I would say that the Atlas is the most responsive, but the Force and Cartel not far behind. The Cartels have the best board feel of the 3, IMO. And I found the Force to have just slightly better board feel than the Atlas, but they’re fairly similar.
In terms of comfort and shock absorption, I would rate the Cartels the most comfortable and the most shock absorbing of the 3. But the Atlas and Force are both comfortable themselves and have decent shock absorption too.
In terms of boots, the same goes for flex, and I think something with a 6/10 or 7/10 flex is a good way to go, so this list is a good place to be for that. In terms of comfort and response, check out the score breakdown for the boots in this list for what I thought. But remember that everyone’s foot is different and what’s comfortable to you could be different to what’s comfortable for me. If there’s any chance you can try on, I would highly recommend that, but if you can’t, if you can let me know if you have wide feet, narrow feet or medium width feet and also if you have high arches or flatter arches. Then I can recommend a brand that might fit well.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thanks for your reply Nate, it helped a lot!
I guess I’m going with the Atlas bindings.
I have few shops near and they only sell Burton, Thirtytwo and Nitro boots.
So I was thinking maybe Burton Photon, Imperial or Ion. And I don’t know much about Thirtytwo ‘s boots. Can you recommend some Thirtytwo boots?
Also I would say that i have medium feet and medium arches. I had Burton Moto boots before and I felt comfortable wearing them.
Thanks!
Hi Hristijan
Thanks for your message.
If you know that Burton boots have fit you well in the past, then they are a relatively safe bet. Not all models will fit exactly the same, but usually a certain brand will fit similar between models. I would say Imperial (6/10 flex) or Ion (7.5/10 flex) would work well. The Photon is more like 8/10 flex, so a little stiffer. Burton SLX (7/10 flex) would be a great option too, if you have the budget, but they are very expensive (though the Ion is too).
I find Thirty Two boots fit me well and are very comfortable. I would say that the Binary Boa (6.5/10) Lashed Premium (6.5/10), TM-3 (6/10) and TM-TWO (7/10) would be good options. Note that there’s the “TM-TWO” and the “TM-TWO XLT”. The “TM-TWO XLT” would be too stiff (9/10), IMO.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thank you very much for your help!
I have one more question. I’m 175cm and 27cm boot size and 62kg weigh. Do you think that Jones Explorer 156 or 159 is better for me?
Thanks!
Hi Hristijan
For your specs I would usually say something around 152, 153, but for this board it’s a good idea to go a little longer. So the 156 would be a good option. At 62kg, I certainly wouldn’t go as long as 159, but 156 should work well for this board, for you.
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
Question on sizing – do the Vans Infuse and Burton Ion (assuming the speed lace and boa fit the same) have similar sizing? I.e would you go the same size for both?
Thanks
Chris
Hi Chris
Thanks for your message.
Yeah for me they both fit in a US10. I own the Infuse (in the 10) and they did take a good while to break in. Longer than I’m used to, so for that partucular model, I think I could have gone 10.5, but usually for Vans certainly 10s and the Infuse broke in eventually.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thanks for your very detailed reviews. I’v read both the reviews on your favorite freeride boots and the all mountain boots above. After reading I must say I really like the Vans Verse and Vans Infuse.
Have have been riding for quite some years now and qualify myself as quite an advanced rider. Usually I ride the resorts but go offpiste as much as possible. Sometimes I go for a one day tour where I’ll walk for 1-2 hours. Also I’m really looking forward to go on a 5 day splitboard tour in April 2019. Taking this into consideration I guess you could say that I tend to go more in the freeride direction, but I also like to further practice riding switch and butter, jump my way around the mountain.
I realize that I may ask a lot of you, so please bear with me, it would be greatly appreciated if you could help me making a choice between these two boots by pointing out some specific advantages or disadvantages for the type of riding I do/will be doing. Coming from boots that I used when I started riding (which are very soft) I obviously want stiffer boots, but don’t want to overdo it.
Thanks in advance and keep up the good work.
Greetings from Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Hi Philip
Thanks for your message.
I would go with the Vans Infuse, if I was you. For a couple of reasons.
a. They will be an easier adjustment from what you’ve been used to as they aren’t as stiff as the Verse
b. For your more freestyle aspects around the resorts, the softer flex (without the tongue stiffeners) will be better. And then if you feel you need them stiffer for when you go on a tour or split-boarding, you can place those tongue stiffeners in. You can do the same with the Verse, but the Verse without stiffeners will be stiffer than the infuse without stiffeners
The Verse is setup more for backcountry missions, with the zipper cover, and has that little bit of extra response. So, IMO, it would be a little better for that side of things. But for the resort, particularly with more freestyle aspects, I’d much rather have the Infuse. Whereas I’d only slightly rather the Verse over the Infuse for more big mountain/backcountry kind of stuff.
Hope this makes sense and helps with your decision
Thanks a lot Nate. After reeding your reviews I truly felt well informed and with this personal touch it made it even better. I will go for the infuse, in particular because of two things you mentioned:
– they will be an easier adjustment to the boots I was used to; and
– you only slightly prefer the verse over the infuse for big mountain/backcountry.
Many thanks!
You’re very welcome Philip. Hope you have an awesome season!
Hi Nate,
Always look for your opinion when I am researching new gear, thanks for all the effort you put into this site. I have a question about my current set-up and am would like to get your opinion. I have a Bataleon The One E.S. 2018 (6 – flex), Adidas Samba boots (4 to 5 – flex), and a set of older Forum bindings (4 flex) but in decent condition. I feel a little too soft in the boot and bindings with my new board and am curious which one I should upgrade to for a more stiffer flex (don’t have the $$$ for both this season). I am leaning toward the boot as I get a bit of heel lift with them also (hence me checking out the Vans…). Any thoughts?
Thanks man!
Hi Johnny
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, I would go boots first, especially if you’re also getting heel lift and want to sort that out as well. The other thing, depending on how long you’ve had your boots, is that they will likely have softened up over time, if you’ve done a lot of time in them. Something like the Vans Infuse could work (I find them to have really good heel hold). Only thing to take note of is that they are narrower than Adidas boots, and if you have wide feet, you might not fit in them as well. If that’s the case, then the Adidas Response might be a better option. Or the Ion Boa (though very pricey), or something like the Thirty Two Binary Boa (6.5/10 flex).
Also check out the following for a few notes on boot fit for a number of different brands:
Sizing Snowboard Boots: The Different Brands
Hope this helps
Hey Nate,
I stumbled upon this website just tying to look for reviews on boots and I am super impressed! You have so much knowledge and are very helpful which is great! But anyways I so have a question for ya. I purchased the k2 maysis boots for this season thinking that they would be amazing after reading all the reviews about them. And it’s true they are awesome. They are the perfect stiffness and ride great. However, I find that the single boa is lacking in versatility. The fact that in can only be tighted all at once makes it really hard to move from riding powder and then to the park as efficiently as I want, aswell as sometimes creates pressure points on my arch depending on how I’m riding. My current board is a salomon assassin pro, and my bindings are contact pros. I am going to be switching to forces as the contact pros are just too soft for me now as my riding has progressed. But that’s besides the point haha. So I’m just wondering what your opinion is on a pair of boots that rides and feels like the maysis, but has a double boa system instead. (I love the boa and could never go back to laces). A few things I’ve looked up so far are the 32 binary and a few options from salomon. But from what I’ve read on this website the binaries will be way to soft. Looking forward to hearing from you!
Hi Brayden
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, it’s a shame it doesn’t have 3 Boas. That Boa for the liner, so you can adjust the liner more easily without having to get inside to the liner is handy, but certainly two boas for the outer boot would be nice too. The K2 Thraxis does have the triple boa system – one for the liner, one for the upper outer boot and one for the lower outer boot. It’s stiffer than the Maysis though – 9/10 flex, IMO – with the Maysis more like 7/10. Then there’s the K2 Boundary, which has two boas, but both are for the outer boot, so you get that adjustability there. They are a little softer than the Maysis though – 6/10 flex.
For other brands, with double boa, you could look at the:
Adidas Acerra (8/10 flex)
Adidas Response (6/10 flex)
Burton Photon Boa (8/10 flex)
Burton Ion Boa (7.5/10 flex)
Thirty Two Lashed Double Boa (6/10 flex)
Thirty Two Binary Boa (6/10 flex)
Thirty Two Focus Boa (8/10 flex)
Salomon Synapse Boa (7/10 flex)
Ride Trident (8/10 flex) – also a triple boa (two for outerboot and one for liner)
Hope this helps and gives you some options to look at
Hi Nate,
I am currently riding a Jones all-mountain twin 157cm. My first and previous set-up consist of the yes basic 155cm, size M union contact pro bindings and burton moto boots (all 2017 models and bought based on your recommendations). I have been snowboarding for 3 seasons, and is looking to upgrade my bindings and board (to match my jones). My goal before this season comes to an end is to get proper lessons and an introduction to off-piste riding. Considering that I am looking to ride powder and also charging on-piste, which bindings and boots would you recommend me to get. In fact, which category would you recommend me to look in, all-mountain or all-mountain freeride. I am looking for gears that can last me couple of years (in terms of durability and also skill level). I am looking at the K2 Lien AT bindings and Adidas tactical adv boots. Thanks!
Hi Chris
Thanks for your message.
To make a long comment short I would say that the Lien AT and Tactical ADV would be a great match for the Mountain Twin and for what you’re describing.
But to add to that, something with around a 6/10 flex, to match the Mountain Twin – 7/10 would also work – so all-mountain-freeride bindings would also be a good match, especially if you weren’t planning on getting into freestyle riding that much. But the Lien AT are a good mix of both, IMO, so they would be a great choice. So yeah, either all-mountain or all-mountain-freeride for the Mountain Twin (preferably 6/10 or 7/10 in terms of flex, but you could also get away with 5/10 flex). Same for boots.
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Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Thanks for your help. You have been very helpful with your advise even since I started snowboarding.
Could I just ask a couple more questions? If I were to get another stiffer or powder board, would the K2 lien AT and Adidas tactical ADV still be suitable (thinking of having 2 boards but just a single set of bindings and boots, which was what I was doing before selling my old gear). Also, with the tri-pods of the lien AT, how much difference in stiffness do you get when using the different tri-pods?
Thank you once again!
Hi Chris
With a stiffer board, ideally you’d go stiffer with the rest of the gear, but as long as it wasn’t like ultra-stiff, you would still get away with Lien AT and Tactical ADV on stiffer gear. Some powder boards aren’t that stiff either, if you were to go for a powder specific board, in which case you’d be a good match with the Tactical/Lien AT setup.
I haven’t actually played around with the Grommets in the Lien ATs. I’ve ridden them a couple of times but only at demo days, so I’ve just ridden them with what was already in them. So, not sure how much difference they make to the flex.
HI Nate,
Unfortunately, the K2 Lien AT is out of stock in the UK (at least for my size). I have purchased the Adidas Tactical Adv boots and am awaiting their arrival. So now, I have to look for another pair of bindings that won’t break the bank. May I know what are you thoughts on the Union Falcor for my gear combination and riding style? There’s a shop that has quite a bit of discount on it now. Are they suitable for jumps in a snow park (thought of doing a little of this)? And also, what size should I purchase if I end up going for the Falcor? I purchased a UK size 10 / US size 10.5 on the Adidas tactical adv (I was a UK 9.5 in my previous Burton boots). This is because I sized using the heel-to-toe length (mine’s 275-280 mm depending on which foot). I seem to be between size M and L on the Falcor, so should I size up or down? Could you kindly advise? Thank you so much for your help!
Hi Chris
The Falcor’s are a little more advanced, but I wouldn’t say they’re ultra stiff – still some forgiveness (7/10 flex by my feel). They would certainly work for the Mountain Twin, it’s just whether or not they would be a touch stiff for you. Possibly not but it’s hard to say. I like the Falcor’s for jumps – they provide good pop, and I like the canting in the footbed for that too. Not sure if they would be the best for learning jumps on though.
Size-wise, if you did go for the Falcors, or something else Union, I would go for medium. For 2 reasons, the base plate on Union large bindings is quite long, so there’s a chance it would be a little long for the 157 Mountain Twin. Don’t know for sure but there’s a risk there. But also, I think, since you have Tactical ADVs (which are low profile) in 10.5, that the Mediums would be the best bet for your boots too.
The Burton Cartel and Union Strata would be 2 other good options, IMO and are also reasonably priced.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
I too recently purchased adidas tactical adv in a 10.5us. whats the minimum waist width i could go with this boot. i usually ride a 32 binary boa size 11 and always had a minimum waist width of 258mm as a rule. do you think i can get away with going normal width boards with minimal toe/heel drag? and from reading previous comments i should get medium bindings in both union and burton with these boots?
hope i made sense.
cheers
Tim
Hi Tim
Thanks for your message.
Yeah I would go medium for both Union and Burton for 10.5 Tactical ADVs, if I was you.
As for minimum waist width, you can definitely bring that down from 32 11s, IMO. Based on ThirtyTwo and Adidas boots that I’ve measured, you’re likely looking at up to a 10mm difference just from the reduced footprint on the Tactical ADVs – and then another 5mm from going half a size down, so you could potentially go as narrow as 243mm at the waist (with +15/-15 angles) – which would be like a 9.5 (which is essentially what a 10.5 Adidas is, or even less maybe). With a straighter back binding angle, I would say go with a minimum of around 252mm at the waist though. But yeah, should definitely get on most normal width boards, IMO, with 10.5 Tactical ADVs – depending on the actual width of them.
Note that if you like to really rail your carves, you might want to add a little bit of width – but if you were previously comfortable with 258mm at the waist, then I think you’ll be fine on most regular width, with 10.5 Tactical ADVs.
Hope this helps with your decision.
Cheers nate! I’m looking forward to having a custom x that is not wide!
You’re very welcome Tim. Enjoy your new setup!
Hi Nate,
First of all, as someone who likes to thoroughly research everything before they buy something, your site is PURE GOLD!
I’m looking for all-mountain boots with a low profil. I’m wondering what score you gave to the Burton Ruler? Related to that, is there any way to see the score for all the boots you tested? (Maybe not the detailed score, but just the name of the boots and the overall score)
Thanks for all you do for the snowboarding community!
Hi Dominique
I don’t usually publish the score for everything, but here’s the details for the Burton Ruler.
Flex = 5/10
Response = 3/5
Heel Hold = 3/5
Adjustability = 4/5
Comfort = 4/5
Shock Absorption = 3/5
Traction = 4/5
Reduced Footprint = 4/5
Total Score = 75/100, after normalizing
The same for Burton Ruler BOA, but with 4/5 for heel hold. And 78.3/100 overall.
Remember too, of course, that boots, more than any other gear, are quite subjective. But hopefully this gives you an idea of their qualities.
Some other good low profile options in a similar price range with a similar flex are the Vans Aura Pro, Vans Hi-Standard Pro, Adidas Samba, Burton Rampant, Ride Jackson.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Just wanted to get your thoughts on a comparison between two boots. I have owned a pair of burton imperial for the last two seasons. But unfortunately the had started to break down on the speed lacing system. I sent them in for a warranty repair and Burton deemed they couldn’t fix them and would replace them with the burton Ion’s.
Just wanted to know how different the Burton Ions were and how big of a jump in stiffness they are?
Hi Brad
Thanks for your message.
In my opinion there is a noticeable jump there. It’s not like going from a soft boot to a super stiff boot, but certainly noticeable. By my feel I would say Imperial 6/10 flex and Ion 7.5/10 flex. Nice that they’re replacing them with a more expensive boot – but kind of strange that they’re not replacing like for like. And if you’re not looking for something stiffer. I would have thought they would ask you, rather than just say they’re replacing it with a different boot. If you’re happy with going stiffer, no problems, and you’re getting a pricier boot – but still seems a little weird to me.
Hi Nate
I am an experienced snowboarder and want your thoughts on the best boots out of the following:
Burton Ion Boa
ThirtyTwo Binary Boa
Salomon Dialogue Focus Boa
Thanks,
Brent
Hi Brent
Thanks for your message.
First of all, with boots, IMO, fit is a big consideration and different feet fit different boots differently. So the best for me isn’t necessarily the best for you – in terms of fit anyway.
Also, depends on your definition of best. These are quite different boots, IMO. By me feel, I rate the Ion Boa 7.5/10 for flex, with the Binary Boa more like 6.5/10 and the Dialogue closer to 5/10.
Performance-wise, the Ion Boa is the most responsive and the best boot for carving and at speed, of the 3, followed by the Binary Boa, followed by the Dialogue.
The Ion Boa will suit a stiffer board/binding setup better, but for a softer board/binding setup, something like the Dialogue might work better.
If you’re looking to ride freestyle, or ride more casually, then something like the Dialogue might work better too.
If you’re doing any hiking, the Dialogue Boa and Ion Boa have better traction vs the Binary Boa, IMO.
So there are lot of factors, IMO, to determine what’s “best”. For carving, bombing performance and for the most response, and with a stiffer board/binding setup, I’d say Ion Boa. But in different situations they may not be the best choice, IMO.
Hope this helps