Hello and welcome to my Union Strata review.
In this review I will take a look at the Strata as all-mountain snowboard bindings.
As per tradition here at SnowboardingProfiles.com I will give the Strata a score out of 100 (based on several factors) and see how they compare with other all-mountain bindings.
Overall Rating
Bindings: Union Strata 2021
Price: $299 (USD recommended retail)
Style: All-Mountain
Flex Rating: Baseplate = Medium (6/10), highback = Medium-Stiff (7/10)
Flex Feel: Medium (6/10)
Rating Score: 93.5/100
Compared to other Men’s All-Mountain Bindings
Out of the 21 men’s all-mountain bindings that I rated:
Overview of the Strata’s Specs
Check out the tables for the Strata’s specs and available sizes.
Specs
Style: | All-Mountain |
Price: | $299 |
Ability Level: |  |
Flex: |  |
Edge-to-Edge: | Medium-Fast |
Weight: | Normal |
Mounts To: | 2 x 4 | Channel |
Sizing
SIZE | US BOOT SIZE | EURO BOOT SIZE | UK BOOT SIZE |
|---|---|---|---|
S | 6-7.5 | 38-40.5 | 5-6.5 |
M | 8-10 | 41-43 | 7-9 |
L | 10.5+ | 43.5+ | 9.5+ |
Who are the Strata Most Suited To?
The Strata is a versatile bindings that achieves a great mix of having great board feel, whilst still being nice and shock absorbing.
And they just give an extra spring to your ride - provide some real energy out of turns.
They are the perfect middle ground of do-it-all, IMO. They’re soft enough to play around on the groomers or in the park, but their stiff enough and responsive enough to lay down big carves too and play off-groomer.
You can take these anywhere on the mountain and ride any style.
They are best suited to boards with a 4/10 to 7/10 flex, and even better for boards with a 5/10 or 6/10 flex.
The Strata in More Detail
O.k. let’s take a more detailed look at what the Strata are capable of.
Demo Info
Bindings: Union Strata 2021, Medium
Date: February 27, 2020
Conditions: Snowing! Quite nice amount of snow especially up higher. Wetter snow in car park which was unpleasant for changing over bindings and taking notes on lift but all good with that pow up high!
8cm in last 24 hours.
-2°C (28.4°F) with wind - didn't feel overly cold.
Groomers were a little cruddy but with some nice pow on top spots to the sides. Off groomer was nice with that 8cm layer.
Bindings angles: +15/-15
Stance Width: 565mm (22.2”)
Board demoed with: Rossignol One LF 2018
Baseplate Length: 26.2cm (10.31”) – that’s measured on the top of the footbed. 24.2cm (9.53") on the underside of the baseplate – it angles up to the top of the footbed.
Highback Height: 21.2cm (8.3”)
Weight: 900 grams (1lbs, 15oz)
* for one binding, including screws and disc. The average weight of a small sample size of around 30 bindings (2019, 2020 & 2021 models) I weighed, was 895 grams. The lightest was 760 grams and the heaviest was 1,020grams. So the Strata is average of those I weighed.
Flex
The Strata has a nice flex that isn't too soft, but not too soft either. I felt it at the stiffer end of medium - a 6/10, IMO.
Responsiveness
Feels more responsive than the flex suggests - and just has this nice lively, springy feel to it. Compared to the Force (which I rode that day too) it feels like a similar flex, but just has that extra spring/bounce to it.
Board Feel/Butterability
Really good board feel. That mini-disc makes a big difference there. Could definitely feel the flex of the board more than on the Force - and the board feel isn't terrible on the force either.
Pop/Ollie Power
Pop/ollie power felt similar to my test bindings (Burton Malavita) - but that's a good thing.
Adjustability
Heel Cup: Yes (which is really nice to have for easy centering of boots)
Stance Width: With the mini-discs can't run the disc vertically - but there's no need to have that, with the adjustable heel cup (you'd typically only run vertically for boot centering). So with the disc running horizontally it gives you some stance width adjustability. However, being a mini-disc it's somewhat limited.
Highback Lean: Not tool-less
Ankle Strap Position: No
Toe Strap Position: Yes
Ankle and toe strap length: Yes tool-less
Gas pedal/toe ramp extension: No
Highback Rotation: Yes-ish
Compatible with: 2 x 4 | channel (not compatible with 4 x 4, which means doesn't work on "slam back inserts" "float packs" - anything that has an extra set of holes 4cm behind the main insert pack and not compatible with 4 x 4 insert packs, though those are very rare these days).
Shock Absorption
These bindings absorb shock really well. You wouldn't necessarily think it when you try to squeeze the footbed. It doesn't feel overly squishy in hand. But it's got some really good dampening qualities when you ride and has a springy feel underfoot.
Entry/Exit
Like most Union bindings, nice smooth feeling ratchets that are easy and smooth to get on and off.
Let’s Break up this text with a Video
Comfort
Super comfortable overall. No cramping or calf bite at all, which is the main thing.
Ankle Strap: Really nice ankle strap. One of my favorite ankle straps now. Just conforms really nicely with the boot, with no pressure points, whilst still giving a nice secure feeling.
Toe Strap: Toes straps are all good too.
Canted Footbed: Yes
Padded Footbed: The padding isn't overly soft feeling to touch, but does a great job absorbing shock and chatter.
Highback: There's a little padding near the base of the high back but otherwise not much, but you don't feel the highback - no calf bite or anything and that's the main thing.
Ankle Support
Union have improved in this are over the last few years, and the new Forma Lab strap is another step up again. Really supportive strap this one. The only thing that would make it better is to have an option to have it in a slightly higher position, but I personally like it where it is - would just be nice for some if the option was there.
Changes for the 2021 Model
The ankle strap has changed again for the 2021 model to the Forma Lab - another nice upgrade. As far as I can tell the ankle strap is the only change.
Changes for the 2020 Model
The Ankle Strap and toe strap are different. The ankle strap is the Forma Elite Direct Connect – which was on the 2019 Falcor. It’s now moved onto the Strata. I own the 2019 Falcor’s and love that strap, so no complaints from me for that change. Otherwise everything else is pretty much how it was.
Changes for the 2019 Model
There was no 2018 model – this is a brand new model for 2019!
Score Breakdown and Final Verdict
Check out the breakdown of the score in the table below.
RATING | SCORE WEIGHTING | |
|---|---|---|
RESPONSE | 4.0 | 16/20 |
BOARD FEEL | 5.0 | 20/20 |
SHOCK ABSORPTION | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
ADJUSTABILITY | 4.0 | 12/15 |
COMFORT | 4.5 | 13.5/15 |
ANKLE SUPPORT | 4.0 | 8/10 |
ENTRY/EXIT | 4.0 | 4/5 |
TOTAL after normalizing | 93.5/100 |
The Strata is an awesome binding! Lively/springy and just great board feel, whilst at the same time absorbs shock really well. That's a combo that most bindings struggle to achieve.
They're also really comfortable and provide good ankle support, with enough adjustability.
More Info, Current Prices and Where to Buy Online
If you want to learn more about the Strata, are ready to buy or want to research prices and availability, check out the links below.
- US
- UK/EUROPE
If you want to see how the Strata compares to other men’s all-mountain bindings or want to check out some other options in that category, check out the next link.
Hello and welcome to my Union Strata review.
O.k. let’s take a more detailed look at what the Strata are capable of.
Nate,
I just picked up a 152 Salomon Dancehaul for the upcoming season. I’ve previously only ridden step on boots/bindings, but I want to branch out and try different set ups. Knowing it’s a volume shifted medium flex board and I wear size 9 boots, would the Stratas or Genesis be a good match for this? Or should I look for something slightly stiffer for a bit more turning leverage?
Hi Scott
Thanks for your message.
Without having ridden the Dancehaul, I don’t know what the flex feel is, but assuming it’s around what Salomon describe it as, I think both bindings would work in terms of flex. But I would be leaning towards the Strata. The main reason being that it has a longer baseplate in the medium and that will just give you subtly better leverage on the edges, given that it’s volume shifted and will be quite wide at the inserts. That said, you could go a little stiffer too. The main downsides to going too stiff are a. can make things a little more challenging for riding at slower speeds or b. can make a softer board feel a little twitchy. In this case with the wider width and with size 9s, I don’t think a stiffer binding would make it more twitchy, but just to keep that slow speed maneuverability I wouldn’t go too much stiffer, but certainly going to something like a 7/10 flex would work as well. But I think the Strata would be a good match.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thanks for the quick reply!
I definitely know what you mean by slow speed twitchiness, my step on combo induced those characteristics into a few of my boards, but Ive only ever ridden step ons so I just thought that was normal.
Have you ridden the Cartel X bindings? Would they be that slight step up flex wise compared to the Stratas?
Hi Scott
Yeah, the Cartel X definitely an option (I rode the 2022 models in the winter), I think. They are in that 7/10 flex feel, IMO. So they give you just that little bit more, compared to the Strata, without being overly stiff.
Hi Nate!
Union Strata – Toe Strap Replacement
Again, love your reviews and recently got a pair of second hand Strata. (Was going to get Force but a good deal popped up locally)
Do we get a different version toe strap when its being replaced under warranty?
The Hex Grip toe strap I got is a version without the secure-lock screw. Instead it has two studs that just pushes into the toe saw blade.
The previous owner said it was replaced under warranty.
I can’t find information on this particular toe strap online.
Is this a legitimate Union toe strap that is only given out for replacement?
Is it secure enough without the secure-lock screw?
Would I need to get a replacement toe strap?
Or is it secure and fine as is?
Appreciate your advise on the DOA recently, I am sticking with 154 🙂
Cheers,
Michael
Hi Michael
From what you’re describing, it sounds like they replaced it with the new TS4.0+ toe strap. I tested the 2022 Falcor this past winter and it had it on it. It was weird at first – trying to pull it out I wasn’t sure about it and I definitely get where you’re coming from in terms of not being sure about how secure it is. I didn’t have any issues with it coming out – and I can only assume (though assumptions are never guarantees!) that they are secure as it’s the toe strap that they use for their highest end bindings (Falcor and Atlas FC).
This is assuming it’s the TS4.0+, but it sounds like it to me from what you’re describing. Look up the TS4.0+ (you can find it in their 2021-22 catalog) if you can’t find it anywhere else and check against yours to see if it looks the same.
Hi Nate,
I had a look at the 2021/2022 Catalogue and I think I’ve got the TS 2.0 Hexgrip Toe from, the Parts and Accessories page 76.
It shows the ‘two studs’ I was referring to.
But I according to the catalogue, it also comes with the secure-lock screws x2. Not sure what they are for it the toe straps no longer need them?
Hi Michael
That’s interesting – as far as I knew only the TS4.0+ had the new toe strap system and the TS2.0 Hexgrip still had the tool-less screws. Does it look like there’s space to have that screw?
For 2022 Union I only retested Falcor, Contact Pro and Flite Pro, none of which have the TS2.0 Hexgrip, but I did ride the 2021 Falcor, Strata and Force all of which had the TS2.0 Hexgrip and all still had the screw. I don’t think that should have changed for 2022 – but having not ridden any 2022 Union’s with that toe strap, I couldn’t say for sure, but I can’t find anywhere that mentions it.
Hey Nate , I was deciding between a couple bindings and wasn’t sure the way to go . I have a Salomon assassin pro and I’m going to be spending most of my time resort riding , whether that’s on blues, blacks, some park and maybe a little bit of trees . I found a really good deal on the 2021 burton genesis bindings but wasn’t sure if that would work well with the board and I’m a little worried it might be too soft . I was also looking into the new atlas or strata and wasn’t sure what might be the best fit . I really want it to be something that I could ride all day in so comfort and shock absorption is nice and something that I could push hard but also ride a bit of freestyle with and just overall work well with the board . Thanks
Hi Michael
Thanks for your message.
For the Assassin Pro, I would be looking a little stiffer than the Genesis, just to make sure you’ve got something stiff enough to drive that board. Totally get that you don’t want something so stiff that it becomes uncomfortable or hard work by the end of the day, but ideally I would go stiffer than the Genesis. The Strata and Atlas are both stiffer but not so stiff that you should get fatigue issues from them. The Atlas is slightly stiffer (6.5/10 by my feel) than the Strata (6/10) and Genesis (5/10). Flex-wise, the Atlas is probably the more pure match to the Assassin Pro, but the Strata would still be a good match – and the Strata will feel better for doing the freestyle stuff, IMO. And being just that little bit softer, might be a good balance between matching with the board and what you’re describing. But the Atlas would definitely work too. I would go with either over the Genesis for this particular board.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate thanks for replying . That info is super helpful but the thing I still don’t understand is there seems to be a lot of conflicting opinions on the genesis online . You have it rated as a 5/10 but I’ve heard it can be ridden with stiffer boards . I’m leaning towards it just cus of the good price I got but I’m just not sure if its the best fit for the assassin pro. With the atlas’s I’m a bit concerned I won’t be able to ride slow if I wanted to and that it might not be the best match for freestyle (I do more jumps than anything though). What do you think ? I think I’m really debating between the genesis and atlas at this point .
Hi Michael
I find you can still ride slow with the Atlas. But it isn’t as good for freestyle, mostly because there’s not as much board feel, IMO. The Strata prob would be your best bet for the Assassin Pro, IMO, if you’re looking for something that’s going to be good for freestyle, but still a good flex match for the Assassin Pro. They’re a little stiffer/more responsive than the Genesis (IMO), but just a touch softer than the Atlas, and more freestyle oriented. Not saying the Genesis would be wrong for the Assassin or anything. Re:Flex bindings do tend to be good for matching board’s that are further stiffer than it and softer than it (like can accommodate a larger range of flexes, if that makes sense), so you would be better with a Re:Flex 5/10 flex binding than another 5/10 flex binding, so it would certainly work, but personally I would probably match with the Strata, based on what you’re describing.
Hey thanks again for the reply . The information you gave is super helpful. I’m now even considering the falcor or or atlas since riding on the east coast , having that extra responsiveness is sometimes helpful for icier situations . That being said I know the new union falcors are rated to be a bit stiffer . Would you say they would be a good match for me ?
Hi Mike
My instinct is that the new Falcor’s (2022 model) are probably a bit stiff for what you’re looking for. I think the 2021 or earlier Falcor’s would be a good match and if you could find an older model, I think that would be a good bet. But I would stick with either Strata or Atlas for what you’re describing. I wouldn’t say that the new Falcor (2022) is a mis-match with the Assassin Pro. I think it would still work with that board, depending on how you liked to ride, but I my instinct for you is that it’s probably a little too stiff.
Hi Nate,
Love your reviews and the information you give, keep up the good work.
I just ordered the Lib tech T.Rice Rro 2021 and I really excited. Still, I would also like to pair it up with new bindings. I haven’t ridden Union before and would really like to try the brand as I hear a lot of good stuff.
I have looked in a lot but I still struggle to decide which model to get. The Strata are my first pick but I change my mind every day. Should I go for the Falcor or the Atlas or maybe the Force. Not quite sure which one would be the best pick for the board especially on the flex side.
I am a intermediate rider and mostly do resort riding but I am not the aggressive type. Love to go to the park from time to time, experiment with presses, do some jumps, 180-es and occasionally go a bit faster.
I would really like to get your oppinion what would be the best binding flex to pair with the board. As a bonus tip I would really appreciate if you share what would be the best boot flex also for the set.
Thanks in andvance and keep shredding.
Hi Teodor
Thanks for your message.
I would personally put the Falcor on the T Rice Pro. I found the T Rice Pro to be around 7/10 in terms of flex, so I think the Falcor is a good match there. The Atlas would be my next choice, though the Strata would certainly work and even the Force. But I would go Falcor, Atlas, Strata, Force.
For boots, I would look at something similar – around that 7/10 flex.
For your style I might go a little softer overall, but to match best with the T Rice Pro, I think that’s what would be best.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi Nate,
Thanks for taking the time to do this. I am an intermediate rider. I currently have a jones mountain twin 154 paired with older cartel bindings and burton imperial boots. I like the board a lot but my main issue is with the turn initiation feeling a bit slow. It feels like it takes quit a bit to get edge to edge. My riding consists of mostly directional cruising resort groomers, trees on the side of runs and some of the fresher snow, s turns, little slahes/carves and small jumps. I really wanted to try out a pair of union bindings and like what I hear about the strata, falcor, and atlas. I really want a little more responsiveness from the board, faster edge to edge, good handling of choppy uneven snow and pretty good shock absorption for jumps, and wouldn’t mind a little more springy surfy energy.(the perfect binding haha) which of those options do you feel wold be best for me. Also I wear a 10.5 imperial boot. Do you think I can get away with a medium or go up to a large. It looks like I’m right on the cusp of sizing.
Thanks cheers!
Hi Edgar
Thanks for your message.
For what you’re describing, I would go Strata. I think it will give you a bit of a boost in terms of edge-to-edge speed and I like the springy feel from them – and covers the other things you’re talking about too. The Falcor is similar, but stiffer. In terms of response when you’re riding faster, the Falcor is better than the Strata, but for slower speed edge transitions, the Strata is a little better. So if you feel you’re riding faster most of the time, then the Falcor (or Atlas) but if you’re mixing up your speeds quite a bit (e.g. slower when in trees), then I would be leaning Strata.
I would go M if you go Strata. In my experience with 10.5 Burton boots, they should fit fine in the M – and the M is a better match for the board, IMO. The L would be potentially marginally too wide for the 154 MT.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
First, thanks a lot for your great work with these comprehensive reviews, they really helped me. Thanks!
I just bought the 2020-2021 Borealis Artefact in 159. A Directional-Twin, Flex rated as 7/10, Hybrid-Camber shape and considered as category All-Mountain, Freeride/Powder and also Everyday Cruising.
(If interested, here you can find a Whitelines-review about it: Borealis Artefact 2020-2021 Whitelines Review.
Now, I’m looking for some new bindings to pair with the new board. I do actually a little bit of everything when I ride: high-speed cruising on groomed pistes, going to powder in freeride terrain, also sometimes park with small to medium jumps and hitting some boxes. But would say less park than groomed pistes and freeride/powder, let’s say about 30/70.
With the help of your awesome reviews, I found the Union Atlas 2021 and also the Strata 2021.
So which of of those two would you recommend for the Borealis Artefact?
Besides, I’m also open to other suggestions if you think other bindings might be better.
(For information, my old setup: GNU Riders Choice in 157 with Burton Cartel bindings in M)
What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks for your help Nate!
Hi Florian
Thanks for your message.
Thanks for sending the review as it’s not a board or a brand that I’ve tested. Assuming the 7/10 flex is pretty accurate, I would be leaning towards the Atlas out of the Atlas and Strata. The Strata is a better binding in the park, IMO, but the Atlas is a better match to the board (assuming flex rating accurate enough) and will drive the board a little better in that 70% of time your outside the park. You could also look at the Falcor, which would be a really good match with the board, but with a bit more board feel than the Atlas. So really good in the park. The Falcor 2022 model is a little stiffer than older models (closer to 8/10 flex), but 2021 and prior models more like 7/10 flex, which would be a really good match, IMO (based on specs of the Artefact).
Hope this helps
Hi Nate! Love your comprehensive reviews. Im not sure if my previous comment had gone through, but i wanted some advice in terms of my next pair of bindings. I had an old carbon credit from 2015 with NOW ipo bindings that i upgraded to the Gnu Finest (2021 Max Warbington version with the fish on it) which you had done a review on in your all mtn/freestyle rankings. I would say i am kind of an aggressive rider, and like to speed down the mountain, but definitely want to progress in the park as i have recently learned to ollie and hit boxes. I definitely want to start hitting more side hits, rails, larger jumps, and overall be better in the park, while also being an all-mountain rider and be more playful opposed to just speeding down like i normally do and not being as fun. So overall, id say kind of a 50/50 split where i can do both well. Im 185lbs, 6ft, and have a size 10 snowboarding boot. Im between a couple bindings and was wondering which you think would be most compatible/ fits this style the best so i can make a more informed decision. They are the Burton Cartels, Cartel Xs, Malavitas, Union Forces, or Union Stratas. Thanks for your help!
Hi Jon
Thanks for your messages (I did get both – just have to be moderated first – I deleted the other one just for tidiness).
I think I would be leaning Strata or Malavita in your case. They are bindings that still have good response for when you’re wanting to bomb and carve but are really good for freestyle stuff too. They provide really good board feel, shock absorption and good spring out of turns, IMO. The Cartel X is probably bordering on being too stiff, though I think it would still work on the Finest and would probably give you the best response/bombing ability out of them, but just won’t be as good, IMO, as the Strata or Malavita for your freestyle progression. The Force is a good all-round binding, but doesn’t provide the same board feel as the Strata or Malavita.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
Thanks Nate! I think overall I’m primarily between the strata or forces. So your opinion has definitely helped out!
I’ve heard something and read stuff that the force is stiff enough where I can be aggressive and it’s a good do it all binding. But with progression do you still find it that stratas trump the force? How would the stiffness of the force affect riding in the park?
Hi John
I don’t find the Force too stiff to ride in the park. It’s just that their board feel isn’t as good. There’s more of a deadspot on the board, where the disc is versus the Strata, which has the mini disc. So the board is able to flex more naturally with the Strata, which I really like for freestyle riding. I think the Strata’s baseplate is a little softer than the Force too, which probably helps with that board feel too. But overall, I found the Strata to be a similar flex to the Force, but just with that extra board feel and that little bit more in terms of lateral movement freedom. The highback on the Strata I find stiffer than it is on the Force.
So yeah, certainly for progression in the park, I would go Strata over Force, but the Force is a solid all-round binding and certainly something you can ride in the park (and the board feel/butterability isn’t terrible on them, it’s just not as good as on the Strata).
Hi Nate! Curious as to your thoughts on how the Strata compares to the Union Force when you lean more towards the freeride side of “all mountain”. I recently replaced an older 164 Jones Flagship with a 161W Jones Frontier. I wanted a daily driver that was a little more relaxed for those days when you go slower on groomers and search the side country and trees looking for untracked pow. I’m currently riding the Frontier with this years Union Atlas which is awesome, but it over powers the board and makes it “twitchy”. I’m going to move the Atlas to my Hovercraft as a dedicated bomber, but having a hard time choosing between the Strata and Force. Can you drive the Strata as hard as the Force? Thanks! – Brian
Hi Brian
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, IMO you can drive the Strata as hard as the Force. I would say that the Force has a smoother response and the Strata has a “springier” feel, if that makes sense. The Strata has better board feel, if that’s something that’s important to you. The Force has better adjustability, so it’s easier to get it dialed in to your boots and setup on the board.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate! I’m split between two bindings to match my 2021 Nvr Smr Proto Slinger.
Union Strata vs Flux DS.
Will the Strata be playful/forgiving enough?
Are the new Flux DS still not good at shock absorption??
I have a very playful and surfy style and love to spend time in 12-18’ pipes, Medium Jumps, and POW/trees.
Please share your thoughts…
Hi Leandro
Thanks for your message.
As far as I know the DS haven’t had anything done to change up the shock absorption. Last model I rode was the 2018 (hoping to get on the 2022 model this year) but there’s been nothing in the specs to suggest any changes and I’ve ridden 2021s of other models that didn’t have any enhanced shock absorption.
In terms of Strata being playful/forgiving enough. They are a little stiffer than the DS. Not by heaps but by a bit they are. But they do have really good board feel and a good springy feel to them, IMO. I haven’t ridden them specifically on the Proto Slinger, so it’s hard to say for sure, but I would say they would work fine on the Proto Slinger and I would certainly be happy to put them on there. I ride my Proto Slinger with Burton Malavita, which have a stiffer highback but softer baseplate. But overall I’d say 5.5/10 on the Malavita. The Strata’s highback doesn’t feel any stiffer than the Malavita, maybe even slightly softer, but it’s also supposed to be a softer baseplate and stiffer highback, so it’s a similar feel, but I felt them overall at around a 6/10.
Certainly if you wanted to go even more playful, then something like the Contact Pro could be an option. I think that would match with the Proto Slinger too, if you wanted things really surfy/playful.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
Thank you so much for your detailed review! Yeah the DS sounds like a match made in heaven but that lack of cushion scares me when it comes to my style as I enjoy jumping in and outside of the park. Shame they haven’t fixed that yet 🙁
I was considering the Contact Pros – but I’m skeptical on how would their response would perform in 12’-18’ pipes, jumps, tranny riding. What are your thoughts there??
Hi Leandro
I found the Contact Pros response to be good considering how their flex feels (4/10 by my feel), but they still don’t respond to the same level as the DS or the Strata. Response-wise, I see the Contact Pro as a 3/5 and the DS and Strata more like 4/5.
Thanks again!!
You’re very welcome Leandro. Happy riding!
Hello,
I read on thegoodride that the strata will not work on boards w/ set back inserts. I have a Salomon Taka 158 that i’m currently running some old contact pros on but I want to put a new binder on it. Was looking at the Strata, but not sure if it will work as the Taka is pretty set back. Not sure why it wouldn’t work, as the contact pros are mini discs as well. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks –
Hunter
Hi Hunter
Thanks for your message.
It’s only on boards with extra inserts that are setback off the main insert pack. These extra inserts are placed 4cm back from the rest of the insert pack. The rest of the holes in the insert pack are 2cm apart. A mini-disc can’t work with holes 4cm apart.
There aren’t that many boards with this setback insert packs. A couple that come to mind are the YES Standard and the Never Summer Peacemaker (but there are a couple of others). YES call them “Slam Back Inserts”, I believe and Never Summer call them “Blower Stance”. These are separate from the main insert pack and have nothing to do with the board having a “setback stance” as such. Most boards with a setback stance don’t have these extra inserts – the whole insert pack is setback.
It’s only on these “slam back”/”blower stance” boards that anything with a mini disc won’t work. And bindings with a mini-disc will still work on those boards, it’s just that you can make use of the “slam back” or “blower” stance inserts. So for those particular boards any binding with a mini-disc can’t use those extra inserts, not just the Strata.
Long story short, for the Salomon Taka, and a majority of boards out there, there is no issue mounting the Strata.
Hope this helps
Any idea why they put a stiffer highback on the orange color?
Hi Jordan
Wasn’t aware that the Orange color had a stiffer highback. It’s a solid highback (without the holes in it) but as far as I know it’s not stiffer (but happy to be proven wrong there). I imagine it’s a little heavier overall, without those weight savings, but as far as I know it’s the same flex. They do it with the Force as well – having a colorway with a solid highback. Not sure why though.
The Goodride review mentioned that it was ever so slightly stiffer, but who knows!
Also I wanted to thank you for taking the time to respond all the comments on your pages!
You’re very welcome Jordan.
Yeah, I don’t know maybe it is stiffer. I didn’t test that version, so couldn’t say first hand, just hadn’t heard it was supposed to be stiffer, but could be if they felt it stiffer.
I have an IPP Honalee 154 which has a width of 252mm at the waist and 290mm at the tips. I was thinking of getting a Strata size medium and worry about board being too narrow act creating over hang from bindings. What are your thoughts?
Ps. I ride size 9 boots with +15/-15 angles
Hi Wren
Thanks for your message.
Really hard to predict the width at inserts based on the waist and tip and tail. It really differs depending on the board, so it’s hard to say for sure. It might be just fine – and getting those bindings as close to the edges without going over is a good thing. But there is some risk with these bindings that it’ll be too narrow. If you could measure the board at the inserts, that would really help. To do so, the measurement should be taken across the base of the board from the outer edge of the metal edge to outer edge of metal edge if that makes sense. The measurement shouldn’t be taken on the top sheet. And the measurement should be taken around the center of where you mount your bindings.
Wrote my comment and question two days ago and got deleted, any problem with it ?
Hi Dan
Thanks for your messages. Your comment wasn’t deleted – was just awaiting moderation.
I don’t test Bataleon boards, so I couldn’t say for sure how the Party Wave feels, but assuming it’s around the 4/10 flex that Bataleon suggests, then something with a 4/10 to 6/10 flex in your bindings makes sense, IMO. You could certainly stick with your Union STR and see how they feel on there. If you wanted to upgrade, then the Strata would certainly work and would give you that better board feel. The Force would be a slight upgrade, but I think if you’re going to change up from your STRs I would take that extra step to the Strata.
I think the Contact Pros were a great choice for the Wallie (again based on the specs). The Contact Pro would also potentially work on the Party Wave. But if you wanted separate bindings for each board, I probably wouldn’t get a second pair of Contact Pros, I would go with something else, to get that different feel. But if you were happy to swap between boards, you could give the Contact Pros a go on the Party Wave too and see how they feel. Even if you did that once to see if you preferred the feel of the STR or the Contact Pro on the Party Wave, that might give you more idea of what you want for the Party Wave.
Hope this helps
HI Nate, Your reviews are fantastic!
I am intermediate rider 2,3 seasons so far I have good turns but I would like to progress a bit on all mountain , carving down the groomed resort etc..no park oriented much.
I have two boards, I got that fun Bataleon Party Wave fat shorty and I wear 10.5 Adidas Samba boots..Should I go for that board with Union Force / Strata or even something flexer like Contact Pro / Flite Pro? Also Ive hear from some pros that Salomon Trigger / Distrcit can be fun and good for all around but I might be wrong. What would be your pick on this for Bataleon Party Wave 2020.
I spent two seasons on Arbor Formula 2019 with Union STR so far..not bad I klinda liked them being slightly more responsive than Flites Pro down the hill..am I right? I can still go for STRs but is it better in overall to invest in some of the above Strata / Force / Contact Pros…etc?
P.S. I also got Bataleon Wallie very soft and fun looking one with stiffness 3/10 and I already mounted Scott Stevens Contacts Pro Edition on it I believe that was a good flexy match for some fooling around and practice some jumps and tricks down the resort.
CHEERS!!!! YOU ARE THE BEST!
Hi Nate,
How much of a difference is between the Strata and the BM Transfer? I like that fact that the BM are quite light and are a 7/10 stiffness, but the Stratas are more damp.
Last year we spoke about the combination Yes Standard and Union Strata, but the pandemic came and didn’t pull the trigger yet.
Something that i didn’t really took into consideration when i was looking for boards was the fact that in Romania the slopes are pretty icy in the morning and after lunch it get worse…
I took a look at the Lib Tech Terrain Wrecker when i was on a snowboard trip in Bulgaria and i liked the fact that it has the Magne-Traction on it (i know that the Standard has a version of it too) and the lightness of it. Did you ride the TW?
What would be the perfect combination to advance my technique on carving and really riding the whole mountain, between trees and sometimes some off-piste?
Sorry to jump like that from bindings to boards.
Have a great one,
Mihai
Hi Mihai
Starting with boards, I haven’t ridden the Terrain Wrecker yet, unfortunately. It’s one of those boards that has just eluded me that last couple of season’s. I’m hoping to finally get on it this season!
But that said, based on the specs, and my experience with other Lib Tech boards, I think it’s an option that would definitely work for you. And it is likely very good in hard/icy conditions. But the Standard is also really good in those conditions, so that’s not really a factor. I think both would work for you – the Terrain Wrecker likely to have a slightly looser feeling. Don’t think it would be super loose, but just a little looser than the more stable Standard. That’s either a good thing or bad thing, depending on your feel preference.
In terms of bindings, I would be leaning towards the Strata for either board. That said, the last time I rode the Transfer was the 2017 model and things might have changed since then. The Transfer I rode back then felt more like a 4/10 flex, despite the stated 6/10 flex. Again, that might be different now, but with a board like the Standard or the Terrain Wrecker I would think the Transfer would be too soft, if it’s anything like the 2017 model.
Hope this helps
Hello Nate, I end up decide getting the Capita Mercury after reading through your riding style post and I feel that I will benefits more from the directional setup of Mercury than the twin shape RC (Still really like that board tho).
I’m planning on getting the Strata to pair with the 159 Mercury. I wear Salomon Dialogue Wide size 10. I think I’m right on the edge of medium and large for the Strata bindings. Given that the Mercury is a little wider, do you think the Large would be a better fit?
Hi Stanley
I still think Medium Stratas would be best on the 159 Mercury. The Strata has quite a long base plate, so I think it will suit the width of the 159 Mercury well and be a good size for your boots too. You could try large and I think they’d probably be OK, but there’s a chance they would be a little wide. I haven’t measured the large, but the Mediums have a 262mm footbed (the waist at inserts of the Mercury is 265mm) and are 242mm on the underside of the baseplate. I imagine the Large Stratas footbed would probably overhang the edge of the board a little. Just a guess as I haven’t measured them, but there’s a good chance. You’d probably be safe with the baseplate’s underside not overhanging the board, but I would still go Medium. Going to be a good width for the board and a good fit for your boot size, IMO.
Thanks a lot Nate! Pull the trigger on Mercury 159 and the Strata M. Now it’s time to wait for the Season to start!
You’re very welcome Stanley. Can’t wait for next season! If you think of it at the time let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to get your new setup on snow.
Hi Nate!
Finally gotten my 2020 Jones MT in 157cm. Thank you for your help on that.
Now I’m deciding between 5 bindings and can’t decide on it. Strata/Atlas/Force/Malavitas/Cartels.
I’m an early intermediate that have yet to learn how to carve next. Can link turns relatively alright. I would like to pick a binding that is all-mountain, can help carve up groomers, side hits, tree runs, pow runs, jumps and in future (a little freestyle), but zero park (as I hurt my spine and wouldn’t want to risk entering the park).
I’m sort of liking the Strata because of the dampness that everyone talks about however I’m not sure if the strata’s baseplate length will hinder the toe/heel side edges for carving if the baseplate will to overhang the board on the 157cm Jones MT due to the waist width of 24.8cm and your mentioned base plate length is 25.8cm (is it medium or large size that you tested?).
I am riding a US 9 Adidas Tactical ADV and would like to ask your take on the dampness for the rest of the bindings mentioned please. As I would like to find something to help my knees’ longevity haha as well as not compromising on progressing at my stage.
Thank you again Nate!
Hi Daryl
Thanks for your message.
All of the bindings you have there on your list would certainly be suitable for the MT and for your stage of progression. The only one I would be a little hesitant on would be the Atlas, just because it’s just that little bit stiffer than the others. Still would go fine with the MT, but just in terms of being early intermediate. It’s not massively stiffer, but just enough, that if you need a reason to cross one off the list.
In terms of dampness, I would say the Malavita is the equal of the Strata and the Cartel just half a notch down. The Force another 1/2 notch down from the Cartel, but still not too bad in terms of shock absorption. But yeah, if you were trying to maximize it, then the Strata or Malavita.
I rode/measured the Medium Strata. With size 9 Tactical ADV, you should be going Medium for both Union and Burton. Sizing-wise, you shouldn’t have any issues with the Strata Medium overhanging the board. The 157 Mountain Twin has a 253mm waist width (2019/2020 models) and I measured the width at inserts of the 2019 model at 266mm at the back insert and 265mm at the front insert. So shouldn’t be an issue there. Also to note, that I rode the Medium Strata on my test board which has width at inserts of 265mm at the back insert and 264mm at the front insert and no issues with binding overhang there.
Hope this helps with your choice
Hi Nate,
Thank you for your quick response. Understood on the Atlas. I added to the list because I may have had that drug of ‘I don’t want to miss out of future proofing’ but at the same time also knew it could be a bit out of my league. I think I’ll focus on the near future and progressing.
Between the Strata, Force, Malavita and Cartel. Which would you think would be more suited for me and my style of riding with 0% park.
Yet to learn how to Carve and yet to enter off-piste zones, but able to prepare me for those.
Would love to hear your thought process and narrowing of choices!
Thank you!
Hi Daryl
I’d probably be thinking Strata or Cartel, based on everything. You get a stiff enough baseplate on each, without being too stiff and you get good shock absorption. The Malavita and Force aren’t way off though. The Malavita gives you the same level of shock absorption as the Strata, IMO, but has a softer base plate, and a stiffer high back. The Force, like I said is a step down in terms of shock absorption, but still fine. It’s got a baseplate/highback setup more like the Cartel, rather than Malavita, where the baseplate is stiffer, but the highback is softer. The Strata it’s quite close for the highback and baseplate – but the highback is a little stiffer than the Cartel/Force and the baseplate a little softer, but more subtly so than with the Malavita, IMO, which has the stiffest highback of the 4, but the softest baseplate of the 4.
For carving, you’ll appreciate that extra firmness in the baseplate, which is part of the reason why I lean towards Cartel/Strata/Force in that sense, and since you’re focus sounds more on carving and off-piste vs park (where having a softer baseplate can be nice, particularly for buttering – though for freestyle anywhere it can be nice).
So, I think the best of both worlds for you would be the Strata, overall. But the rest would all work fine and there wouldn’t be a bad choice between those 4 – it’s getting really into the finer details there, but if I had to make a call for you, I’d go Strata.
Hi Nate. I’m still on the hunt for some very damp bindings for my Explorer. Looking at these stratas and also cartels. Would either pair better with the Explorer? Is one more damp or vibration reducing? I’m all mountain rider, no park but old knees. Anything else you’d suggest for the dampness that is a match? Thanks so much.
Hi dd
Both are good matches, IMO, for the Explorer. Wouldn’t say one over the other in terms of a match. In terms of dampness, both are pretty good in that area, with the Strata just pipping the Cartel, but both very good none-the-less. If you’re looking for ultimate in dampness, then the most damp bindings I’ve ridden are NOW bindings. You could look at the following that would be good matches with the Explorer:
>>NOW Pilot
>>NOW Select
Or if you wanted to go a little stiffer, then the:
>>NOW Drive
>>Jones Mercury (Jones bindings are very similar to NOW)
I haven’t ridden the Select, but I’ve ridden the Pilot (just haven’t published my review for it yet). But check out the reviews on the NOW Drive and Jones Mercury to get a better idea of whether NOW or Jones might work for you. A lot of the characteristics are similar for the Pilot, but it’s just a bit softer flexing.
Hope this helps
Thank you Nate. Much appreciated!
Hi Nate, thanks again for the great advice. I picked up a pair of the Stratas and have one follow up question on sizing. I wear a 10.5 Northwave Legend boot and bought the medium Strata size. The boots fit fine (straps not close to max) and with the heel cup extended to largest setting they are pretty well centered inside the binding. That said, I do have approx an inch or so of boot extending past each end (heel and toe). I’m not sure if there is a rule of thumb on how much boot overhang within the binding footbed is ok? With no gas pedal extension on the Stratas, this will be as good as I can get it, but as mentioned, they are pretty centered so maybe that’s what really matters? Board is Jones Explorer 159 if that factors in the equation! Thanks
Hi dd
Thanks for your message.
I wouldn’t be worried about that level of boot over binding overhang. If your boots are centered and the overhang of boots over the edges of the board is good, then there’s no issues with an inch on heel and inch on toe in terms of boots overhanging the bindings, IMO.
If you think of it at the time, let me know how you get on with the Strata’s once you’ve got them on snow.
Thank you Nate, I will update you on my Strata experience!
Hi Nate! I just purchased a set of Union strata size large. I have size 11 ride fuse boots. I mounted them on a lib tech brd 162w but they hang over the edge of the board slightly. The base plate is way longer than my size large cartels. I also had to push in the heel loop all the way to center my boot on the board. Could I get away with using a size medium instead? According to their size chart it does not fit, but it seems like the sizing is off. Thanks
Hi Aaron
Thanks for your message.
Yeah Union base plates are typically quite long – and the Strata is the longest Union base plate I’ve measured. Even the medium Strata is longer than the Large Cartel (I usually ride Burton medium, but I measured my brother’s Large Cartels).
When you say it overhangs the edges, does it just overhang the edge of the top sheet, or does it actually overhang the outside of the metal edge? If it’s inside the metal edge but just overhangs the top sheet edge a little bit, it should be fine, but if it actually goes over that metal edge, then maybe not. What you could also do is tilt the board on edge and if the binding comes into contact with the ground before the boot, then you’ve got issues. One thing I did notice with the Strata is that the underside of the base plate isn’t as long – it angles down from the top of the footbed, which helps mitigate any potential drag issues.
In terms of fitting an 11 into a medium, I couldn’t say with confidence. In your favor is that Ride boots are typically quite low profile (I haven’t measured the Fuse specifically, but the other Ride boots I have are). I ride low profile 10s in Union Medium. I always ride Union medium, and I’ve got plenty of leeway there. I would take a guess that you could get 11s in there – but having not ridden ride 11s in a Medium Union, I can’t guarantee it.
Hope this gives you more to go off
It overhangs the edge by about 1/16” in my front foot toe side and about 1/8” back foot heel side. I know the inner side is tapered but I just don’t like long it is. A local shop has a medium I will test fit to see if it will work. I really liked the cartels, but my gear was just stolen and so I thought I’d try something different.
Hey Aaron
Sounds like a good plan. Let me know how you get on in the mediums.
Hi nate, so I got mediums. with the heel loop all way out, they fit my 11’s pretty good. i have just a touch more on my toes than heels. an 11 Adidas would be perfect.
it’s worth a try, but if I don’t like the way it rides, I may go back to cartels. I really wish they had made the footbed just a 1/4” shorter. thanks again for your help! ride on!
Hey Aaron
Thanks for the follow up and glad you’ve been able to make the mediums work. Yeah I really like the Strata’s but that base plate length is one part that can make it not work for some people. If they could make the gas pedal adjustable and reduce the length of it by around that 1/4″ to 1/2″ and then make it so you can adjust it out to the length it is now, I think that would work better. Some Union bindings have adjustable gas pedals, so they have the ability to do it. Would be nice to see it on the Strata. I’m guessing there’s a reason they don’t, but always a nice adjustment to have available.
Hi Nate,
I am on Smokin Superpark and K2 Maysis boots.
I’ve ridden on 1999y Burton Freestyle for 10 years and finally broken up.
I’m looking for the Union Strata and Flux XF to put on my gear.
I would love to play high speed flat tricks, jump, carving and sometimes tree runs with long slope.
What do you think is a better fit?
Thanks.
HAPPY A NEW YEAR.
One more binding I want to add Flux TT.
Thanks.
Hi Danny
Happy new year!
I haven’t ridden the Superpark, but based on specs it looks like it’s a mid flexing board. If that’s the way it feels for you, then I would be looking at the Union Strata. I think that would be the best flex match between the XF, TT & Strata. If you feel it’s a little stiffer or if you want to drive the board a bit harder, then the XF & TT are certainly doable too. Flex feel for the 3, from my experience:
Strata: 6/10
XF: 7/10
TT: 7/10
XF is certainly nicer than TT. A little more responsive, a bit more board feel and a little more comfortable. I prefer the waffle strap on it versus the honeycomb on the TT. But the TT is certainly still a quality binding – and the price I’ve seen on a binding in this flex range. Both the XF and TT, like all Flux bindings, lack a little in terms of shock absorption, which is really their biggest downside, otherwise very good bindings.
The Strata, IMO, has it over the XF in terms of board feel and shock absorption, but not quite as responsive. The XF (and TT) have better ankle support. Flux bindings typically have some of the best ankle support in the industry, in my experience.
So, yeah I would go Strata for the Superpark, based on the Superpark’s specs, but certainly the others are options.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
Hi Nate,
I’m upgrading my gear out of season and i have opted for the KWON DWD board 159. Purpose is all mountain, with still the ability to play and butter round the mountain. I am looking at the cartels and the strata. With this board what bindings would you recommend
Old setup is very much a beginner setup with Burton Hate 157 with Burton Custom bindings. I actually loved the flex and play in this board but im not the biggest fan of the bindings after demo’ing misson and cartels. Opting for a little longer board for a little more speed and getting stuck on less flats in Europe.
Hi Dan
Thanks for your message.
Both those bindings are great options for the Kwon, IMO (I haven’t ridden that board, but based on specs) and for what you’re describing, and both will be an improvement over the Customs, as you already know having demoed the Cartels. So, I don’t think there’s a bad choice you can make between them.
I preferred the Strata’s just a little more in terms of response and slightly better board feel (though I’ve heard others say they prefer the board feel of the Cartel’s, so there’s not much in it). The Cartel’s with just a bit more in terms of ankle support and just a fraction more comfortable overall.
A tight call, and there’s not a bad call you could make between the 2, IMO. Perhaps one thing that might lean you one way or another, is that you’ve tried the Cartel’s and you know you like them.
Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision
Hi Nate
Thank you for your amazing work here, it is very helpful !
Im getting my first setup this season ! I’m intermediate rider and I’m going everywhere from powder to hard snow, even park occasionally. I went for the Jones Mountain Twin 157, Ride Lasso boots and i’m between Union Strata and Falcor for the bindings.
I’m 180cm, weight 67kg, footsize 42EU-9US.
A pretty responsive binding might be a good idea for that board. Falcors might slightly reduce heel/toe drag and the Stratas look more playful and I like that as well. What do you think ?
Cheers !
Hi Cyril
Thanks for your message and apologies for the slow response – just back from vacation.
Both bindings would certainly work with the Mountain Twin and both are great options.
For both you would be sized a medium, so there should be no issues with that on the 157 Mountain Twin, in terms of the length of the bindings – both will fit fine, so I wouldn’t worry about that as part of your decision.
The main difference, IMO, is that the Falcor will be slightly more responsive and the Strata slightly more playful – so depending on which you value more, would be the decision I would make between them.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thank you for your answer, I bought the Falcor and they look great ! I can’t wait to try them next season
Hi Cyril
Nice one! Hope they treat you well – and hope you have an awesome season when winter rolls around
Hey Nate,
Looking at the Union Strata and Burton Malavita to put on a Capita DOA. What do you think is a better fit? I currently ride Union Atlas and looking for something with better board feel, what do you think?
Hi Jordan
Thanks for your message.
I would go with the Strata. The one reason is that it’s a little more responsive than the Malavitas. Not by heaps, but by a little bit – and I personally prefer a slightly more responsive binding for the DOA. Both the Malavita and Strata should give more board feel than the Atlas, but the Strata just that bit more responsive. The Malavita perhaps a touch more board feel, but Strata’s are a definite improvement over the Atlas in that sense, IMO.
Hope this helps with your decision
hello Nate!
I bought the Lib Tech terrain wrecker 157, union strata large and have bootsize 10.5 US. The bindings do overhang a bit at both sides. It’s about 1,5 centimeter at toe and also at heelside. Should I switch to strata Medium?
Cheers
Hi Fred
Thanks for your message.
Yeah, personally I would switch to Strata medium if I was you. The way the footbed on the Strata angles up from the baseplate helps and allows a little more leeway in terms of binding overhang. But even so, I wouldn’t be that comfortable with that much personally. For most brands of boots I would be confident that 10.5s would be fine in Medium Strata. But if you could let me know the make model and, if you know it, year of your boots, that would help to better predict whether they’ll fit or not.
Thanx Nate! My boots are Solomon Malamute from the year 2012.
Hi Fred
Salomon boots don’t tend to be that low profile (although it looks like they are bringing out some low profile 2020 models) – I wouldn’t expect Malamutes from 2012 to be anyway. So there’s some risk they wouldn’t fit well in a Medium Strata. If you have a way to test to see if they do, that would be ideal, because if they do fit, then I think the Mediums would be best for the board.
Hi Nate,
Bit of a specific question for you here about this binding. I’ve got a Capita Outerspace Living in 158 and was looking to pair it with the Union Strata. Only issue is I’m in size 11 boots, so I’m a bit worried about the large size Strata (which is what is recommended for my boot size). If I got into some footprint reduction boots or something like a 10.5 Adidas Tactical ADV maybe, should I go with the medium? Or would the overhang from the size Large Strata be ok on a 158. I believe the waist width on that board is 253.
Thanks!
Hi Josh
Thanks for your message.
I would predict that the width at inserts of the 158 Outerspace Living to be around 262mm (based on measuring a different size). The Medium Strata baseplate is 25.8cm on the top of the footbed (and 24cm on the underside of the base plate, closest to the board). So that would be a really good fit, IMO. The large is likely to be a little wider than the width of the board, I would say (though haven’t measured it but pretty sure it would be). It’s the top of the footbed that’s this wide, which gives you some leeway in the fact that it’s higher off the board – so that allows more angle. But there’s still risk there that the binding will be too long for the 158.
If you got into a 10.5 Tactical ADV, then I would be very confident you could fit that into a medium Strata, which, IMO would fit the board very well.
Hope this helps
Just FYI, the Large Stratas will hang over the edges of that board. I don’t know why they made the baseplates so long on this binding, a good portion is useless unless you have like size 13 boots. It seems like a pretty major oversight.
Thanks for the clarification.
I like the idea of them being able to go that long – but I think they need to make the base plate a little shorter – but then add a gas pedal extension (the Strata is unable to be extended at all) – that extends it to the kind of length it is now.
Hey Nate,
156 19 DOA do I go with the Strata or the Atlas? I mostly ride groomers to the park.
Enjoy your content. Thanks for the help!
Hi Stan
Thanks for your message.
Personally I would go Strata, mostly because I prefer the board feel of the mini-disc. The DOA is a board that I like to have fairly responsive bindings on – and although the Atlas are a slightly stiffer binding than the Strata, I didn’t find them any more responsive than the Strata. So, personally I would go Strata.
Hope this helps with your decision
It does thank you!
I know youve commented on the issue of riders with a size 10.5 boot and which size to go with in Union. I wear a burton moto imprint 1 and a dc control. I have a pair of old Union Forces, the burtons fit nice, but I do notice the DC is a little on the snug side. I think you’re going to say go with the medium in your opinion. Is that safe to say?
Hi Stanley
Yeah, safe to say, I would go medium if I was you. The Large would be fine for your boots – both pairs – but I would be concerned that you would get binding overhang on the 156 DOA with large Stratas (which have quite a long base plate on them). The Mediums will fit better to the board. I would be riding the DC Control on the DOA personally, but even if they’re a bit snug, I think that’s better than the bindings not fitting the board properly.
Hello Nate
so I bought a new setup (heavily influenced by your reviews among others), consisting of a Yes Greats 159 and Adidas Tactical ADV boots in US11.5. I’m 6’4 and around 185lbs. Judging from your comments, I reckoned it should be a good fit? Rather aggressive All-Mountain-riding on an intermediate-advanced level, so far mostly carving up groomers and some pow here and there, although getting on to the more playful side of things recently, incorporating more and more switch riding and freestyle elements.
The question I actually have for you, is whether you would recommend Stratas or Falcors in this context? I would guess Stratas, but I’m debating on Falcors for that little bit more aggressive ride. Although I have doubts of the Falcors overpowering the Greats.
Thanks for your advice
Sascha
Hi Sascha
Thanks for your message.
Based on what you’re describing, I think you’ll like the Greats as a one board quiver maintaining a balance between being able to ride aggressively but still slow things up and play around with.
Usually I would say Stata on this board, but Falcor certainly aren’t way off in this case. Personally I would be happy to put the Falcor on this board – and would certainly add some response vs the Strata. I wouldn’t personally be too worried about overpowering it with the Falcor, but I’m not an overly powerful rider. If you are quite a strong/powerful rider, then there’s a chance you could overpower it with the Falcor, but it’s not that likely, IMO. The Falcor is also something that I found isn’t prohibitive to playing around in and riding freestyle in, so they still have that going for them. The Strata would be the safe pic, but the Falcor could work for you too.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hey Nate,
Thanks for the feedback a couple of months ago.
Since then I spent around 60 days on the mentioned setup with the Stratas and enjoyed it very much!
I have the issue of not being able to perfectly center the boot on the snowboard though. As in – even with the heel cup moved all the way forward I still measure around 2cm overhang on the heel side compared to 1cm at most on the toe edge. I figure this is an issue of using very low profile boots in a borderline size.
I’m considering to try to sell my L Stratas and buy a pair in M instead. Do you figure that would solve the issue at hand? Or do you have any other recommendations?
Thanks again, your advice is much appreciated 🙂
Hi Sascha
Thanks for your message and the update.
I only ride Union bindings in M, so I’m not completely sure if going from L to M would solve that issue. Also with 11.5 boots (even if they are probably the lowest profile going around) there’s a chance the M doesn’t fit your boot properly. The biggest concern I would have would be the heel loop being too narrow. Again, might be OK, but couldn’t say for sure.
I wouldn’t be too concerned about that overhang difference to be honest. Having 2cm on the heel side isn’t that much and if not centered I prefer to have a little more overhang on the heel side. For 2 reasons:
1. it’s way less likely to get any boot drag on the heel edge and
2. it’s easy to get leverage on the toe end, so having a bit more overhang on the heel edge gives you a bit more leverage there
Also, I’m not sure about where it is that Adidas saves length to make there boots so low profile, but if it’s more so at the toe end vs the heel end, then chances are that your feet are actually centered on the board anyway. And ultimately it’s your feet, rather than your boots that are applying leverage to the boards edges. So yeah, I wouldn’t be too worried about not being 100% centered. I rarely ride 100% centered – usually with a little more overhang on the heel side.
Hope this helps
Hello Nate
Thanks to your excellent reviews I have purchased a Jones Mountain Twin and Union Strata. I see that you ride with +15/-15 angles. Have you rotated your highbacks or no?
I ride +15/-9 and mostly on groomers… I am not sure if I need to rotate those highbacks or not. It seems like there are only 2 positions : normal or fully rotated, which looks a little too much rotated… I don’t know.
Thanks for your advices
JT
Hi JT
Thanks for your message.
I don’t usually rotate Union bindings – as technically the only way you can really do it is having the heel cup position in different slots on either side of the bindings. Not sure that’s what they’re designed to do, so I just leave them. If I have Burton bindings I rotate the highbacks. But I usually don’t necessarily rotate them all the way to parallel with the edges – I actually find that feels weird when you’re riding +15. But I do rotate them a bit. But they’re the only ones I rotate on, and to be honest I’m not sure I even notice any difference. Most bindings I don’t rotate at all. IMO it’s not a big thing.
Hope this helps
Got you thanks 😘
Hey Nate, Thanks a lot for the reviews they are awesome.
So I really like the sound of the union strata and was hoping you can give me a steer on either these or the Union Falcor (similar to many people above!)
I use the adidas tactical ADV boots and I’ve just bought a 154 Yes Optimistic and have an older 157 NS proto. Planned to use the Rome Katana on both boards but they broke on my last trip away.
So the main questions where I would appreciate your thoughts are; (sorry if there are too many!)
Which union binding out or Strata and Falcor recommend as my one binding for both boards?
Which one would be closest in terms of flex, responsiveness to my old Katana (2016)bindings?
When you mentioned above that Strata may be best suited to the PT2 and falcor to the PYL, could you explain what would be the downside of having the Falcor on the PT2 compared to Strata and vice versa on the PYL or Optimisic in my case?
As I mentioned, I was interested in the strata but worried it’s not responsive enough for the Optimistic.
Any thanks for any input you have!
Kyle
Hi Kyle
Thanks for your message.
In terms of similarity to the Katanas, I couldn’t say for sure as I haven’t ridden the Katanas. Based on specs I would say maybe more like the Falcor in terms of flex/response. But it’s hard to tell having not ridden them and also when the Rome site rates them as a 6-9/10 (which one is it?!). And then they mention them as being medium in the description. And I’ve seen them elsewhere rated as 8/10 flex and “medium” in other places. So it’s quite hard to compare based on that, but my overall feeling is that they’re probably more like the Falcor in terms of flex.
I would say that the Strata is best suited to the PT2, just because it’s the closest flex match. I would rate the Strata 6/10 in terms of flex and the PT2 5/10. I know this is comparing boards and bindings flex, and it’s definitely not an exact science but form years of testing, there are certain binding flex that match board flex and I try to rate them as close as possible to reality. The main reason that I try to get close with flex between bindings and board is that a binding that is too stiff for a board can overpower the board and be too unforgiving for what the board wants to do – and a binding that is too soft for a board doesn’t transfer enough energy to drive it properly. For me, I prefer either matching the flex of the board with the binding or going slightly stiffer. I’m more likely to underpower a board than overpower it. But if you’re a more powerful rider, it might be different for you.
So, the biggest downside of going Falcor on PT2, is the Falcor potentially overpowering the board (which can make it feel twitchy). Personally I wouldn’t worry about overpowering the PT2 with the Falcor, but I wouldn’t go any stiffer. And some more powerful rider’s might overpower it on those bindings.
The biggest downside of going Strata on the Optimistic is that they don’t transfer enough power to drive it. Which can make it feel slower to turn and take more energy to initiate turns on it. I rode the Optimistic with Malavitas, which aren’t any stiffer than the Strata and whilst I would have preferred stiffer bindings, it was doable. If you’r a more powerful rider you might not have any problems driving the Optimistic with the Stratas, but I would go Falcor over Strata on the Optimistic personally.
So based on everything I would go Falcor to pair with those two boards over the Strata. But it’s a close call. If you feel you are quite a powerful rider, then the other way around would also work.
Hope this helps/makes sense
Hi Nate, I have a dilemma as I have a DC controo boot size 10 im looking to see which size i should get as based on the size chart im between a medium and a large. Which one should i get? looking for advice
as i have to buy it online since non of our local shops here carry it. More power to you and we appreciate your honest reviews.
Hi Ian
Thanks for your message.
For DC 10s, I would go Medium for Union. I ride 10s and prefer the fit of the Mediums and they typically fit better on regular width boards too. I’d go with Medium if I was you.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate,
Great review. I have a NS Proto 2 and Yes PYL. Ideally want one pair of bindings for both boards but can’t decide between these and the Falcors.
Should add that I also have a Capita Scott Stevens with Contacts.
Appreciate any advice you can give.
Hi Rick
Thanks for your message.
Tough call. Both would work well. The Falcor’s being slightly more suited to the PYL and the Strata more suited to the PT2. But the Falcor would still work for the PT2 and the Strata would still work for the PYL (not helpful I know!).
I would be leaning towards the Falcor personally. And if you really didn’t like them with the PT2, then you could always shift the Contacts from the Scott Stevens. But even if you were wanting to leave the Contacts permanently with the Scott Stevens, I think Falcor, but going Strata wouldn’t be a bad call either.
Awesome quiver by the way!
Hope this helps
Thanks, Nate…really doesn’t help, was leaning towards Strata :’D
This is because I feel the Contacts would be too soft for the PT2 and the Falcor too hard, the PT2 is probably the board I ride the most. Also I believe DCP rides the PYL with Now Yes bindings, would I be right in saying these are more equivalent to Strata than Falcor?
Not having ridden both, like you, I’m questioning my reasoning :/
Anymore advice? 😀
Hi Rick
Sorry 😉
Like I said, neither would be a bad choice, so if you’re feeling Strata, I wouldn’t steer you away from there. I haven’t ridden the NOW Yes (hope to get on the 2020 model but haven’t ridden it yet) but based on specs I would say more similar to Strata than Falcor, yeah.
Hi!
Fairly new snowboarder here, but picking it up pretty quickly (after 2nd time, felt very comfortable on greens and alright blues in very icy conditions). Started with a Burton Instigator 165W with Union Flite Pro bindings, but just invested in a Lib Tech Skunk Ape 165W. I’m 6’6″, 200 pounds with a size 13 boot (adidas adv response). Not interested in the park at all. I’d guess I’m still at the high end of beginner/low end of intermediate.
Which bindings would you suggest? The Skunk Ape 165W says it has a flex of 7.7 (but Good Ride says it has a medium flex) with a quick turn initiation, but since I’m taller and weigh more, should I be able to flex it easier? Do I need a binding stiffer than Union Strata or Burton Cartel/Genesis? I looked at the Falcor, but its labeled as Advanced-Expert and I am definitely not that (unless being taller and weighing more helps there?). How will a binding with med/fast to fast turn initiation play with a board with a med/fast turn initiation?
Thank you for your time!
Hi Austin
Thanks for your message.
Firstly, I think the 165W Skunk Ape is a great size for you. That’s the size I would have likely recommended. Flex-wise, whilst it’s a board I’ve never ridden (as I can’t test a board that’s that wide properly, with size 10s), typically Lib Tech tends to overate their flex, compared to other brands (IMO). So probably closer to a 6/10 based on other Lib Tech boards.
With the Strata/Cartel also being 6/10 (by my feel), I think they would be a good match. The Genesis more like a 5/10, so probably a little soft. But yeah, certainly with more weight against the bindings, the flex will feel a little less. But at 200lbs, I wouldn’t say it’s that big a difference (I’m 185lbs for reference). So I think the Strata or Cartel would be good bets, rather than going to something like the Falcor. The Falcor would work with the Skunk Ape, I would say, but for you, I think the Strata/Cartel would work better. Of course, this is based on some assumptions about the Skunk Ape.
Hope this helps with your decision
I picked up a 157 lib tech terrain wrecker
and a size 11 dc judge boot. Tried to pair
it with some burton cartels but all having
a very hard time centering my boots, even
with the bindings mounted all the way
towards the toe edge, l’m still getting
considerably more heel hang. So l’m looki
for a binding with an adjustable heel cup to
remedy that, which union binding is most
similar to the cartel? Thanks!
Hi Nicholas
I would say that the Strata is the closest Union binding to the Cartel. The Force would be the next closest.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate – thanks for the informative, easy-to-read review.
I’m quite keen on the Union Strata bindings, but struggling to pick the right size! Hoping you might be able to offer some feedback if you have a minute.
I have a pair of Burton Ruler boots in the Wide fit, brand new model, in size US 8.5. Union’s size chart says:
– Small -> boots 5-8
– Medium -> boots 7-10
So while technically I’m in the Medium range, I’ve been told that my boots can probably fit in the Small (since Burton boots are meant to have a smaller footprint) – and this would give me better response.
I can’t find any stores around me that stock the Strata, so my best bet would be to order them online.
But that leaves me with the dilemma – which size should I go for? Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance!
Hi Shaker
Usually I would say go for the smaller size, if you can – and I would imagine that 8.5 Burton boots would be fine in small bindings (though I couldn’t say for sure as I haven’t tried that combination.
Only thing is if the the wide models are significantly wider in the toe box, on the outersole of the boot, whether that would cause any issues. But I couldn’t say for sure.
In terms of response, a snugger fit might help with response, but also a longer base plate can also help with response, so going Medium gives you that. And I don’t think you’re going to have a sloppy fit at all, in the Medium. So I would go Medium, if I was you.
Hope this helps
I’ve followed your reviews on everything I’ve considered buying. Keep up the great work. It’s nice to see you answering everyone’s questions. Not many people would take the time to do so. How would the Stratas match up with a NS Proto TT 158x? I’m an All-Mountain rider who visits the jumps in the park frequently.
I also have a pair of Rome SDS 390’s. I like them, but I adjusted them multiple ways, and I’m still getting a lot of ankle pain where the highback meets the baseplate? Any thoughts on that and the bindings in general.
Lastly, the strata hyperblue – red – black for the 18/19 proto 2 top sheet? I like the red, but all my friends favor the hyperblue.
Thanks man, keep up the good work.
-Cody
Hi Cody
Thanks for you message.
I think the Strata would be a good match for the PT2. The flex is a good match, IMO and the board feel of the Strata would work well with something like the PT2, IMO.
I don’t currently test Rome gear, unfortunately, though I’m hoping to be able to soon. But currently I’m not sure what could be causing that with the 390’s.
Not sure I’m qualified to recommend color match! But black goes with everything. Certainly the safe bet. But I think the Red would go with the board – just an opinion though. The Hyperblue probably would too. It’s a more unique color. So I guess it depends if you want to stand out or not.
Hope this helps
Hi Nate, love your work and great reviews! How do these compare to the cartels? I read your review for both of them and it seems like this one got an overall higher score, but I still have a few questions:
1. The cartels have a canted food bed as you have mentioned, do the stratas have them too? How important is this? I would like to take care of my knee if im going to be snowboarding every season every week.
2. Based on pictures, the stratas look like they have a very thin and uncushioned/unpadded high back. Any issues/concerns there?
3. Which ankle strap do you like better?
4. Have you experienced any of the rumored union bindings’ screws becoming loose issue? I hear that is an issue for some people and that has me worried.
Thanks!
Hi Nelson
Thanks for your message.
These and the Cartels are both quite similar in a lot of ways. I found the Strata’s just a little more responsive and just a bit better in terms of board feel. But they’re really very close in that sense. The Cartel’s marginally more comfortable and a little more in the way of ankle support, but again, subtle differences.
To answer your questions, from my experience/opinion:
1. The Strata does also have a canted footbed. I don’t notice this in terms of comfort over the short term but over the long term it’s supposed to be better for your knees, hips and ankles. Also you get a bit more pop from a canted footbed. I wouldn’t say it’s a must-have but it’s something that I like to have.
2. I didn’t notice any issues with the highback, in terms of comfort, but perhaps over a longer period of time you could start to notice it, but I own the Falcors, which also don’t have much in the way of padding (except a little at the top) and I haven’t noticed any calf discomfort with those
3. I would say I slightly prefer the Cartel’s ankle strap, but the Strata’s isn’t bad by any means. You can over crank the Strata’s ankle strap which makes it feel less comfortable, but so long as you don’t over crank it it’s very comfortable. I prefer the toe strap on the Strata vs the Cartel. I don’t believe the Cartel got Burton’s new toe strap which some other Burton models, like the Genesis got.
4. I’m assuming you’re referring to the screw that connects the highback, ankle strap and heel cup? This has apparently been an issue for Union in the past. I’ve never had any issues with this but I have heard about it. But apparently this issue has been fixed on the 2019 models (they’re apparently using different washers now).
If you’re referring to the screws that mount the binding to the board, then whilst I have had screws come loose here, I’ve had the same thing with every brands bindings, and it’s just down to use. Screws come loose over time, especially if you’re riding hard, doing ollies etc. Key is to make sure you tighten your screws regularly. Union’s screws do tend to be shorter than other brands and for a lot of their bindings you have to mount one or two screws without washers first, to compress the cushioning and then mount the others with washers, then take out the ones without and replace the washers. A bit of a pain, but not too bad. And I haven’t noticed this making the screws come loose any quicker. If you were really worried on this front you could try to get screws from another brand of bindings – though the only caution here would be whether Union use shorter screws for their bindings for a reason. I’m not sure.
Hope this answers your questions and helps with your decision
Will the strata match well with the yes ghost? Should I be looking at Falcor?
Cheers nate!
Hi Tim
The Strata would be a good match the Ghost, IMO. By my feel, I would rate the Ghost a 6/10 in terms of flex – and the same for the Strata. Of course this isn’t an exact science feeling flex for boards and bindings, but I would say that would match very well. In saying that the Falcor would also work very well for the Ghost, IMO. I would be leaning towards Strata though, but not much in it.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thanks nate
Got the black strata, looks sick, look forward to trying them both out.
Sweet! If you think of it at the time, let me know how you get on with your new setup, once you’ve had a chance to get them on snow.
Hey Nate,
I’m looking for a binding to match my Rossignol Sushi.
I’m currently on an Arbor Coda Rocker with Flux DSs and really enjoy it.
Would you say I could switch to Union without a complete shock and is the Strata stiff enough for Pow-Days on the Sushi? Maybe go stiffer(Falcor)? Maybe stay with Flux(TM)? Help me out with this one.
Cheers Dan
Hi Dan
Thanks for your message.
I haven’t ridden the Sushi, so I’m not familiar with how stiff it feels. But looking at the Rossignol catalog it says 6/10 flex for the Sushi. If this is accurate, then I would say that the Strata would be a really good match for it. If it’s stiffer than that in reality, then I would be looking between the Union Falcor and the Flux XF. I would go for the XF over the TM for the Sushi, just because it has a slightly more surfy feel. Still a really responsive binding, but just slightly softer flexing than the TM and the highback is a little shorter, just giving it more of a surfy feel in comparison. Assuming that’s something that you want for the Sushi. If you do want something more locked-in feeling, then the TM would work for sure.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hey mate,
Tossing up between these and the 2019 Genesis (or Genesis X) for this upcoming season, and keep changing my mind between them.
I ride mostly groomers/powder in Japan, have zero interest in park/rails. Currently riding a Capita Mercury and Bataleon Surfer.
Any advice?
Hi Pablo
Thanks for your message.
I would probably say Genesis for the Bataleon Surfer would be best bet, but for the Mercury I would go either Genesis X or Strata. So it’s a tough choice. But there isn’t really a bad choice either, IMO. The Genesis would work for the Mercury too, I just think the Strata or Genesis X would be slightly better. I think I would go Strata over Genesis X for the Surfer.
So, I think I would be choosing between the Genesis and the Strata, with the Strata slightly better for the Mercury and the Genesis slightly better for the Surfer.
Hope this helps with your decision
Hi Nate! This is Marco… congrats for your reviews which i ever found so useful!
I would like to ask to you one doubt: i’m going to buy a Jones Explorer 161 wide, what type of the following bindings could you recommend?
I’m following: Burton Cartel Re:Flex 2019, Union Atlas 2019, Union Strata 2019… i’m a low intermediate snowboarder and i like doing slopes/pistes and backcountry pow!
Any advice will be so useful!
Thanks in advance
Cheers from Italy
Marco
Hi Marco
Thanks for your message.
All of those would certainly work for the Explorer. I would personally be weighing up between the Strata and the Cartel, just because I really like to have good board feel and those 2 bindings provide really good board feel. The Atlas isn’t as good in terms of board feel. But the Atlas is otherwise a nice binding and certainly suitable for the Explorer. If you’re not really doing any buttering or freestyle stuff, then board feel becomes less important, but I still like a bit of board feel, even for non-freestyle stuff.
The other thing to think about is a Burton binding on a non-Burton board has limited stance width adjustment options – i.e. you can only move each binding by 2cm at a time, meaning no micro-adjustments. If you are happy to just ride reference stance (which is what I do 90% of the time on a board), then it’s not a big deal, but if you were wanting to experiment with your stance width, then it makes it trickier. Just one thing to consider if going Cartel.
Hope this helps with your decision
Thanks Nate, for sure it will help for my decision. I think that i will go with the stratas for having a more responsiveness… the highback stiffness is so different according to your opinion?
Thanks in advance!
You’re very welcome Marco.
I would say that the Strata’s highback is a little stiffer, but not massively stiffer, than the Cartel’s but the baseplate on the Cartel is a little stiffer than the Strata. But both even out to a 6/10 flex feel, IMO.
Thanks a lot… i would like to ask to you the last question i promise:
Have you tried both of them in powder? Could you define some differences or analogies?
Best regards
Hi Marco
Without having directly ridden both bindings back to back in powder conditions, it’s hard to say for sure. But in my head, a softer baseplate would lead to an overall surfier feel – i.e. the baseplate would have more influence on a surfier feel than the high back would, but that’s just a theory.
Heya Nate!
If you had the choice between the 2017/2018 Burton Cartel or the new Stratas, which one would you choose?
My profile: High-beginner, low intermediate rider with a Slash Brainstorm. I am primarily riding groomers and off-piste and want to get into doing jumps off of sidehits and such.
Thanks for the vast amount of Information you provide here!
Hi Michael
Thanks for your message.
Both great options, so you couldn’t go wrong with either, but I liked the Strata just that little bit more. Also Check out my Burton Cartel Review – and look at the score breakdowns and you can get an idea of what I thought of the performance of each for different factors.
But yeah, both are highly recommended and both are a good match for the Brainstorm, IMO.
Hope this helps
Heya Nate,
thanks a bunch, once again.
I’ve read through your Cartel & Strata reviews and have gone ahead and ordered the Strata. I think that one is gonna be a better fit for me right now – and where I want to go.
Great day to you and a good 2018/2019 season, mate!
You’re very welcome Michael.
If you think of it, let me know how you get on with the Strata, once you’ve had a chance to ride it.
A great 2018/19 season to you too!
Hey Nate, Nice review man really appreciate your opinions.
Do you think these would be better paired to a Capita OutterSpace Living or Burton Mission Bindings?
I am a advanced beginner/ Intermediate rider.
Hi Mark
Thanks for your message.
I think the Strata would work well with the Outerspace Living, for sure. The Missions would also work though. I would say the Missions are a similar flex too.
The Statas give a bit more responsiveness, a little better board feel and a little more in terms of shock absorption, IMO – but the Missions are still good bindings in those departments and would suit the Outerspace Living. I’d personally go with the Stratas, but both would work.
Hope this helps with your decision