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Flux DS Bindings Review

Flux DS 2024-2025 Bindings Review

Last Updated September 1, 2025 by Nate 50 Comments

Hello and welcome to my Flux DS bindings review.

In this review I will take a look at the DS as all-mountain snowboard bindings.

As per tradition here at SnowboardingProfiles.com I will give the DS a score out of 100 (based on several factors) and see how they compare with other all-mountain bindings.

Note: This review has not been updated beyond the 2025 model. We feel we are in need of a re-test to update the review properly. The review could still be used as a proxy for the '26 Flux DS, but may be less relevant to the '26 and later models, particularly if more changes are made. We hope to get on a '26 DS at some point if we can or failing that, will aim for the '27 DS (assuming one is released, but it's likely  they will as these bindings have been a staple in their line for a long time!). 

Overall Rating

Bindings: Flux DS 2024

Price: $359 (USD recommended retail)

Style: All-Mountain

Flex Rating: Medium (6/10)

Flex Feel: Medium (5/10)

Rating Score: 84.4/100

Compared to other Men’s All-Mountain Bindings

Of the 25 current model aggressive all-mountain snowboards that we tested:

  • The average score was 82.4/100
  • The highest score was 90.9/100
  • The lowest score was 71.0/100
  • The average price was $298
  • The DS ranked 9th out of 25

Overview of the DS’s Specs

Check out the tables for the DS’s specs and available sizes.

Specs

STYLE:

ALL-MOUNTAIN

PRICE: 

$359 - BUYING OPTIONS

$359 - BUYING OPTIONS

Ability Level: 

Ability Level Intermediate to Advanced

flex:

snowboard Flex 5

weight:

Felt normal

Mounts to: 


2x4 | 4x4 | Channel

Sizing

SIZE 

US BOOT SIZE

EURO BOOT SIZE

UK BOOT SIZE

S

4.5-7.5

36-40

3.5-6.5

M

7-9.5

39-42.5

6-8.5

L

9+

42+

8+

Who are the DS Most Suited To?

The DS are best suited to anyone looking for a mid-flexing binding that has more carving ability than you'd get from most mid-flexing bindings, but still turns easily at slower speeds. 

Best suited to boards in the 3/10 to 7/10 flex range, but particularly good for that 4/10 to 6/10 range. While their overall flex is a 5/10, the way the stiffness is more concentrated in the baseplate means it works better on stiffer boards than a typical 5/10 flexing binding, IMO. 


The DS in More Detail

O.k. let’s take a more detailed look at what the DS are capable of.

Demo Info

Bindings: Flux DS 2024, Medium

Date: March 7, 2023

Conditions 

Cloudy but high cloud. Good visibility. Lightly snowing to start but very light. Slightly more than flurries buy not much more. 

Temperature was -1°C (30°F) and -4°C (25°F) with wind, both morning and afternoon. SE winds 5kph (3mph) morning . 10kph (6mph) SSE in afternoon.

24 hour snow: 0.4" (1cm)

48 hour snow: 2" (5cm)

7 day snow: 25" (64cm)

On groomer: Nicely groomed with a good layer of soft on top. I'd say medium firm underneath. 

Off groomer: A little bit of it being dust on crust, but the crust part underneath wasn't too hard/icy or anyhing, so not too bad overall. 

Set Up

Flux DS Snowboard Bindings 2024 Review

Bindings angles: +15/-15

Stance Width: 555mm (22”)

Board tested with: Lib Tech Terrain Wrecker

Boots tested with: Adidas Response ADV, size US9.5

Footbed length: 23.9cm (9.4”) 

Footbed Length Fully Extended: 26.4cm (10.4")

Baseplate Length (underside):  23cm (9.1")

Highback Height: 19.1cm (7.5”)

Weight: 920 grams (2lbs)

* for one binding, including screws and disc. The average weight of a small sample size of around 80 bindings (2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 & 2024 models) I have weighed is 920 grams (2lbs). So DS are bang on average and felt normal on snow too. 

Flex

In Hand: The DS' highback is quite flexy both twisting and pulling back – particularly when pulling back right up the top – gets more rigid in he middle of the highback though, of course. The top half isn’t the flexiest ever that I’ve flexed for pull back, but it’s up there. Ankle and toe straps have a good bit of flex to them as well. They flexed more than my control bindings (Burton Malavita).  

On Snow: Feeling the highback you really expect these to be really quite soft flexing bindings, but I'm guessing the baseplate is quite a bit stiffer than the highback, given how they feel on snow. They still certainly not stiff overall, but overall flex feels around a 5/10. Highback you'd think it would be closer to 3/10. 

Responsiveness

The DS feel really good when carving. They're higher speed carving ability defies their flex. Not sure if that's because most of their stiffness comes from the baseplate or if it has something to do with the ankle support you get from them (more on that below) but whatever it is, these felt really nice carving in. 

They were also good in terms of slow speed response. 

Board Feel/Butterability

There's nothing to suggest that they would have especially good board feel (no mini-disc or anything like that) but they have really decent board feel. It may just be because there is minimal padding in the footbed (see shock absorption below).

Pop/Ollie Power

Felt like I could get a similar amount of pop from these as I do with my control bindings but that's really good, as I find the Malavitas good in this area. 

Adjustability

Heel Cup: No

Stance Width: Full size disc that you can run horizontal, so good micro stance width adjustability.

Highback Lean: Apparently you can adjust the highback lean, but it's not obvious.

Ankle Strap Position: Yes - 2 positions.

Toe Strap Position: Yes - 2 positions.

Ankle and toe strap length: Tool-less.

Gas pedal/toe ramp extension: Yes - and even heel ramp extention as well - you can do both.

Highback Rotation: Yes and it's even tool-less. 

Compatible with: 2 x 4 | 4 x 4 | The Channel

Shock Absorption

Pretty minimal, as in almost non-existent padding on the footbed. This is the weakest point of this binding. Though, it may contribute to its better expected board feel and may contribute to it's better than expected carving prowess too. 

Comfort

Overall nice and comfortable, with the only thing taking away from it, being that minimally padded footbed. 

Ankle Strap: Felt really good. They conformed really well to my boots and gave no pressure points. 

Toe Strap: As Flux toe straps tend to be, these were some of the better toe straps that I've tried in terms of fit to my boots and comfort. 

Canted Footbed: Not that I could tell.

Padded Footbed:  Very minimal (see shock absorption above for more). 

Highback: A little bit of padding at the bottom and lateral side of the highback, but the main thing is that it felt very comfortable on my calves when riding. No calf-bite whatsoever.  

Ankle Support

Best in the business, in my experience (not just the DS but a lot of Flux bindings). I think it has to do with the way they fit the ankle strap on the inside of the baseplate, rather than outside. 

Entry/Exit

Really nice and smooth ratchets. Easy to release straps on the move, when getting back foot out at lift. 


Score Breakdown and Final Verdict

Check out the breakdown of the score in the table below.

RATING
(out of 5)

SCORE WEIGHTING

CARVING

4.0

12/15

SLOW SPEED RESPONSE

4.0

12/15

BOARD FEEL

4.0

12/15

SHOCK ABSORPTION

2.5

7.5/15

ADJUSTABILITY

4.0

12/15

COMFORT

4.5

9/10

ANKLE SUPPORT

5.0

10/10

ENTRY/EXIT

4.0

4/5

TOTAL after normalizing

84.4/100

The DS are really good bindings, with turning, carving and ankle support being their strongest attributes. But they also have really good board feel and a lot of adjustability. 

Apart from their lack of shock absorption, these are excellent bindings, with high-end carving/turning abilities, that belies their flex. 


More Info, Current Prices and Where to Buy Online

If you want to learn more about the DS, or are ready to buy or want to research availability and prices, check out the links below.

  • US
  • CA

>>Flux DS at evo.com

>>Flux DS at blauerboardshop.com

>>Flux DS at dreamruns.com


Flux DS 2025

If you want to check out some other all mountain binding options or compare the DS to other all mountain bindings check out the next link.

My Top 5 Men's All-Mountain Bindings

PAST REVIEWS OF THE DS

Flux DS Bindings Review

Hello and welcome to my Flux DS bindings review.

This review rates how well, in my opinion, the DSs rate as all-mountain bindings. As per SnowboardingProfiles tradition I have given them a rating out of 100, which is broken down into several categories.

Overall Rating

Bindings: Flux DS

Price: $275

Smart rating score: 84.9/100

Flex: Medium (5 out of 10)

Compared to Other All-Mountain Bindings

Out of the 22 men’s all mountain bindings that I rated:

  • The average score was 80.9/100
  • The highest score was 93.5/100
  • The lowest score was 67.2/100
  • The average price was $274
  • The DS ranked 5th= out of 22

Overview of the DS’s Specs

Check out the tables for the DS’s specs and available sizes.

Specs

Style:

All-Mountain

Price: 

$275

Ability Level: 

Ability Level Intermediate to Advanced

Flex: 

snowboard Flex 5

Edge-to-Edge: 

Medium-Fast

Weight: 

Normal

Mounts To: 

2 x 4 | 4 x 4

Sizing

SIZE 

US BOOT SIZE

EURO BOOT SIZE

UK BOOT SIZE

S

4.5-7.5

36-40

3.5-6.5

M

7-9.5

39-42.5

6-8.5

L

9+

42+

8+

Who are the DS Most Suited To?

The DS’s are great for anyone looking for a bindings that can do a bit of everything. If you only want to have one pair of bindings then the DS’s are a great all round choice.

They wouldn’t be terrible for beginners but are really more for intermediate & up riders.

These bindings will match up with quite a wide range of boards too. I have used them on heaps of different boards now – as I own a pair and usually use them on boards that I demo – and they are suitable for a wide range from medium-soft flexing boards with a playgul feel all the way up to medium-stiff boards with an aggressive feel.

I’ve also used them in various conditions including hard packed trails and powder in the backcountry. And on various different types of terrain including steeps, chutes, through trees, bowls, moguls and in the park.

The DS in More Detail

Flux DS 2018 Review

O.k. let’s take a look at the DS in more detail

Demo Info

Bindings: Flux DS 2016 & 2018

Date: Multiple dates

Conditions: Various conditions

Bindings angles: Various binding angles

I own the 2016 versions of these bindings so I’ve ridden them a lot. These are the bindings I used to use to demo boards. I have also demoed the 2018 versions which are very similar but with the waffle ankle strap in place of the honeycomb strap.

Flex

Flux rate the DS’s stiffness as 3/5. Which out of 10 would translate to an 6/10 (in my books!). Other reviews I have read consider the flex to be soft to medium-soft – around 3 or 4 out of 10.

I wouldn’t say it’s as stiff as a 6/10 but I definitely wouldn’t consider them a medium-soft either. To me these bindings are completely mid-flex (5/10). Which is great for an all-mountain binding.

I think the confusion here lies in the fact that they have great response and boot support. You can really lock these bad boys in tight (without pressure points) but they still butter well and there is definitely some movement when you twist the high back.

So you get the response you might expect from stiffer bindings but the butterability of a softer binding – it’s this balance that makes these bindings so good for doing everything.

Board Feel/Butterability

As mentioned above these bindings butter and tweak more like a softer flexing binding – but without sacrificing response. They don’t seem to have anything special about the base plate or disc (like a mini disc or anything), but they still have great board feel.

Adjustability

As to be expected with Flux bindings the DS’s are super adjustable. You can adjust everything from the high-back, ankle strap, toe strap, toe ramp and heel ramp. And you can do it all tool-less which is always good.

You can basically set these up exactly how you want them. Get them in the right size and they’ll fit any foot and boot.

Shock Absorption

The biggest area for improvement for the DS’s is in the shock absorption. It’s not terrible but it’s nothing special either. Some more padding in the heel would be great.

Though some riders don’t mind this and some even prefer it, I definitely like a bit more shock absorption, especially for riding the park.

Entry/Exit

As always with Flux the ratchet system is easy and smooth which makes entry/exit easy.

When getting in I also find it really easy to push the ankle straps around the high-back so you can drop your foot in and not worry about standing on the ankle strap.

Comfort

Improved shock absorption would also improve the comfort of the DS’s but they are pretty darn comfortable anyway. A large reason for that is the awesome straps that lock down tight without producing any pressure points.

The high-back also conforms really well to boots.

Turn Initiation/Response

I am really impressed with the response I get out of the DS’s – especially considering the flex and butterability.

And you can really initiate those turns quickly – they feel great going through narrow tracks and trees but are also awesome for wider radius turns.

Ankle Support

As mentioned already, the ankle straps lock down tight but don’t produce any pressure points. They also sit high enough on the ankle to give your ankles some great support. If you like a lot of ankle support, the DSs are a great choice.

Changes from Past Models

The 2022 model looks to be exactly the same (bar new colorways) as the 2021 model as far as I can tell.

The 2021 model looks to be exactly the same (bar new colorways) as the 2020 model as far as I can tell. 

The 2020 model is essentially the same as the 2019 model as far as I can tell. 

The 2019 model got an all new higback called the resistor highback. As far as I’m aware that’s the only change.

The only change that I’m aware of between the 2017 and 2018 model is that the 2018 model now features Flux’s new Waffle strap. The 2016 and 2017 models had the honeycomb strap.

Previous Changes: The DS’s honeycomb ankle straps were new for the 2016 model. And they were a nice improvement. They were kept for the 2017 model and the 2018 model changed to the new waffle strap.

Score Breakdown and Final Verdict

Check out the breakdown of the score in the table below.

RATING
(out of 5)

SCORE WEIGHTING

RESPONSE

4.0

16/20

BOARD FEEL

4.0

16/20

SHOCK ABSORPTION

2.5

7.5/15

ADJUSTABILITY

4.0

12/15

COMFORT

4.5

13.5/15

ANKLE SUPPORT

5.0

10/10

ENTRY/EXIT

4.0

4/5

TOTAL after normalizing

84.9/100

Overall the DS’s are one of the best all-mountain bindings going around in my opinion. And they’re reasonably priced too. Great performance but for about the average price for all-mountain bindings.

You could ride these bad boys as park-specific bindings, or never enter the park and purely use them on the trails, and they’d be just as good – or you could get the most out of them and use them for all of the above.

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Comments

  1. MAx says

    April 12, 2024 at 10:58 am

    Didn’t they finally add some dampening in the last 2 years? Didn’t make a noticeable different from previous years?

    Reply
    • Nate says

      April 13, 2024 at 10:25 am

      Hey Max, thanks for your message.

      The DS got the new Super Ultima Baseplate for the 2023 model (retained for the ’24 model) but from what I could feel, it didn’t add any dampening. For the ’24 models several bindings go the new “Boost Footon” which has a footbed that’s raised 4mm up. While there’s still really no padding, like foam or gel or anything, there, it does create a big of an air cushion I’m guessing. I did find the Boost Footon to be a little damper, when riding. Still not heaps of dampening, but a bit of an improvement.

      The Boost Footon was added to the XF, SR, CV, CV LTD, GX & XV but not the DS unfortunately.

      Reply
  2. Armagan says

    January 22, 2024 at 9:50 pm

    Hi Nate,

    Great in-depth review.

    May I ask your opinion about my situation?

    I am snowboarding since more then 25 years including asymmetrical race boards with hard bindings and ski boots for many years, where the first 10 years were around 60 days every season, also instructing. But after 2007 it turned into a recreational hobby (around 10 days a season) due to starting a family and I lost the recent developments totally. I even changed my board recently after 18 years with a LTB Decent 165XXW as there are not many options for me. I am 6’4” weighing 265 pounds with a boot size of 15 and able to do handstands in terms of fitness level.

    I am riding on a duck stance, comfortably both ways in any condition still as you would guess and I am still using my 2007 SP Destroid bindings. They are kind of bulletproof and still keeping up. But am wondering whether a modern binding will be a game changer for me?

    Any suggestions will be so much appreciated, because I am also confused about not only the binding choice but also size if it will.

    Sorry for the long one but thanks a lot.

    Reply
    • Nate says

      January 24, 2024 at 9:09 pm

      Hi Armagan

      Thanks for your message.

      From what I looked up the LTB Decent is a mid-flexing board and the SP Destroid are also mid-flexing. So I would be looking to matching that flex. Something in the 6/10 to 7/10 flex range would likely be a good bet. Having not tested either of those, it’s hard to say their exact flex, but you should be good with something in that range.

      In terms of fitting a 15, I believe a Union XL fits up to a 15 (as far as I know only the Force from Union has an XL, but that’s a mid-flexing binding, so should work.

      K2 XL Flow XL and Nidecker XL are also supposed to fit up to 15. From K2 the Lien AT would have been a good bet, but they discontinued it. If you can find a 2023 model, that would be a good bet. The K2 Edition or K2 Bond would likely work, but we haven’t tested them, so don’t know for sure, and not sure if they come in the XL. Pretty sure the Lien AT came in an XL.

      From Flow, if you wanted to try rear entry bindings, the NX2-TM would be a good bet, IMO.

      From Nidecker, the Kaon Plus would be the best option, IMO.

      Hope this helps

      Reply
  3. Kevin says

    January 19, 2024 at 7:59 am

    Thanks Nate for the review. Is the lack of padding a show stopper? I’m an older guy so my knees are very precious haha. I won’t be hitting the park but is the shock absorption a big issue or really noticeable? Thanks!

    Kevin

    Reply
    • Nate says

      January 20, 2024 at 7:15 pm

      HI Kevin

      Thanks for your message.

      It’s never bothered me, but it is noticeable. Though I’d say it’s most noticeable when landing jumps etc. But you can feel more chatter in them too, and that’s noticeable as well. I rode DSs as my main bindings for a season and I didn’t notice any long term fatigue over a long day or over the season, but I was younger. If shock/chatter absorption is of particular importance to you, I would probably look at something else.

      Reply
  4. Victor B says

    July 31, 2022 at 2:50 am

    Hello!

    Short story.
    I ride 2013 Arbor Elemet Rocker, combined it with Flux SF- Love the board and bindings combo, did everything on it from park to some pow. As my skills progressed and I become a better snowboarder, can hit anything on my way when snowboarding downhill in resorts such as all side features to tree runs. At high speed, it become unstable but can control it. Love every moment of it.
    But I always wanted something better….until I came across Jones Ultra Twin Mountain for sale so I grabbed it.

    Now, I have a question…
    is it worth keeping my Flux SF bindings? Or do I upgrade to newer Flux bindings? DS or XF?
    Will Flux DS be okay with very stiff board (9/10) and I ride with vans standard pro (very comfy boots with mid flex rating)

    I have no issue with Flux SF but I kept wondering if the technology is outdated or not?

    Reply
    • Nate says

      July 31, 2022 at 10:09 am

      Hi Victor

      Thanks for your message.

      I think the SF should work fine with the Ultra Mountain Twin. They’re a stiffer binding, so I think they’re a good match. To me the Ultra Mountain Twin isn’t a 9/10 flex as it’s rated by Jones, but it’s still quite stiff (7.5/10 flex by my feel) so the DS would be too soft, IMO. The XF or XV would work well and if you wanted an upgrade, you could go with one of those. You’ll get a nicer ankle strap and toe strap and overall a bit of an improvement overall, but if you’re happy with the SF then I think it will be a good match and I wouldn’t upgrade.

      Hope this helps

      Reply
      • Victor C says

        July 31, 2022 at 5:43 pm

        Hi Nate,

        Thank you for your honest opinion. I have been weighting on if I should get new one but at same time my Flux works so well with Jones Ultra Twin mountain.

        Yes that what I did with my Flux SF – I upgraded my ankle strap to flux’s honeycomb and still work really well so far. I could do same for toe’s and keep using the bindings.

        I just can’t believe the quality of my flux sf bindings and it still work for long time.

        Thanks

        Reply
        • Nate says

          August 2, 2022 at 11:58 am

          You’re very welcome Victor.

          Reply
  5. Pauline says

    March 18, 2022 at 8:53 am

    I have the women’s Flux GS and GL. I love their bindings more than the Rome and Burton Lexa. Rome was solid and good quality but kinda heavy. Burton had meh ratcheting and began showing signs of wear after a few days. My Flux have held up for multiple seasons and still look like new. Lightweight, responsive and very comfortable. Not sure I’ll change binding brands moving forward

    Reply
    • Nate says

      March 18, 2022 at 4:38 pm

      Hi Pauline

      Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.

      Reply
  6. Gene says

    November 28, 2021 at 4:36 pm

    Hey Nate,

    Appreciate the in depth reviews you’re doing on this site. I’m a long time snowboarder (10+ Years), and for whatever reason I’m just now looking into some of the more technical aspects of the gear. Always been a handmedown/clearance sale guy prior.

    Presently have a Arbor Whiskey and Vans Auora OG Boots- both a medium flex. Looking for bindings to replace the wildly old ones I’ve been using for some time now. I’m an all mountain rider that will be primarily on the East coast.

    Pretty much torn between the Flux DS and the Union Force. I’ve read both in depth descriptions a couple times now, but if there’s any way you could provide more info, specifically a pros/cons sort of response between those two or a perhaps even a recommendation, it’d be very much appreciated.

    Reply
    • Nate says

      November 29, 2021 at 12:44 pm

      Hi Gene

      Thanks for your message.

      I’d say the DS are the best flex match with the rest of your setup, but that said, the Force are still a good flex match.

      Some pros and cons:

      – Force better shock absorption
      – DS more comfortable, IMO
      – DS better ankle support
      – Force better adjustability

      In terms of response and board feel, very similar, IMO.

      Hope this helps with your decision

      Reply
      • Gene says

        April 1, 2022 at 2:16 pm

        Hey Nate,

        Hope you enjoyed your season! I got 12 full days in this season with the Flux DS bindings. I appreciate your feedback as I was leaning towards the Flux’s, but your anecdote regarding my specific setup got me to finally make that move- and I’m very happy that I did!

        They were very comfortable and fit well with my riding style. They amount of give was perfect, and the padding on the bottom really wasn’t as much of an issue as I thought it’d be. The only drawback was that I did catch some heelside chatter once or twice when having to stop while at a higher speed, but that’s may be more so due to my 5’9 200lb frame and 155cm Arbor Whiskey, than the bindings themselves.

        Just wanted to add the note to show appreciation, and to let you know I’ll be continuing to follow along as I look for a more sturdy, speed focused board and bindings in the future.

        Reply
        • Nate says

          April 4, 2022 at 2:15 am

          Hi Gene

          Have had a great season so far, thanks for asking. And thanks for the update and the insight, much appreciated. Glad to hear the DS are treating you well.

          Reply
  7. Alex says

    October 28, 2020 at 5:34 pm

    Hi Nate. I have been using union atlas for my jones explorer but now I also got a mind expander and was thinking which bindings will be nicer on it… im in doubt between the flux ds or the jones mercury. Any inputs on that. Thanks.

    Reply
    • Nate says

      October 29, 2020 at 12:31 pm

      Hi Alex

      Thanks for your message.

      Personally I would be leaning towards Flux DS for the Mind Expander. Just because they’re a little softer and a little more easy going and the Mind Expander is a surfy easy going ride – so I think that would be the better match. The Mercury is a little stiffer, more precise kind of binding. If it was the Ultra Mind Expander it would be the other way around – that board is a beast – shares part of the name with the Mind Expander but a vastly different personality!

      Hope this helps

      Reply
  8. Jason says

    December 30, 2019 at 4:19 pm

    Hi Nate, just wondering what your opinion is, on the 2020 DS with Ride Superpig combo.

    Thanks

    Reply
    • Nate says

      January 2, 2020 at 12:38 pm

      Hi Jason

      Thanks for your message.

      I haven’t ridden the Superpig yet, but based on specs, I think that a slightly stiffer binding would be a more ideal match. The DS is quite responsive for it’s stiffness, something that Flux is good for, so it’s not way off, but ideally, I would go with something a little stiffer (assuming Ride’s flex rating on the Superpig is accurate enough). If you wanted to stay Flux, I think the XF would be the best choice – or the TT for something on the cheaper side, but still stiff enough. Or you could check out the following for some other mid-stiff options.

      >>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings

      Hope this gives you more to go off for your decision

      Reply
  9. Alex says

    November 5, 2019 at 3:07 pm

    Hi Nate,
    Will these work with Yes! Standard 2018?
    I’ve rode Union Force for the last season but M size turns out to be small for my Burton 10US while L is too big. Looking forward to sell Unions and looking for a new pair of bindings.

    I wonder won’t Flux be too soft?
    I don’t carve, mostly riding groomers, freeriding and a gonna try myself in park this season.

    Reply
    • Nate says

      November 6, 2019 at 2:19 pm

      Hi Alex

      I find Union Ms to be just right for my 10s – but I don’t test them in Burton boots.

      I find Flux fine in L but again prefer them in M. But I like to have that snugger fit. But given how we differ on Union bindings I think L would be a better size for you for Flux.

      The DS is probably just on the softer side to be ideal for the Standard. Since you don’t carve they would probably do the job, but generally, I would say the Flux XF would be a better match for the Standard. That’s likely what I would ride if I was to ride Flux bindings on the Standard. You could also check out:

      >>Top 5 All Mountain Bindings

      AND

      >>Top 5 All-Mountain-Freeride Bindings

      For more options. Or the Burton Malavita.

      Hope this helps

      Reply
      • Alex says

        November 7, 2019 at 7:30 am

        Thanks, Nate.
        I wonder what will be the downsides of having Flux DS with Standard. I mean how would my ride be different?
        I am not an expert so don’t really now what happens if you set soft bindings together with stiff board.

        Regarding the links, I did check them already and compared the options and their price points DS is the best bet. XF cost almost twice in the place where I live…

        Reply
        • Nate says

          November 7, 2019 at 12:39 pm

          Hi Alex

          The main things I notice with softer bindings in general is that I find that you can’t hold a carve as long or as deep on them – and I feel like stability at speed is impacted. In terms of matching a softer binding with a stiffer board, I find that the binding doesn’t have enough power to properly drive the board – which a. makes it harder to hold those carves deeper and longer and b. can make the board feel a little slower edge to edge.

          With the DS/Standard combo though, if you felt any of that it’s likely to be subtle, given that the the DS isn’t super soft and the Standard isn’t super stiff. I would rate the DS 5/10 flex and the Standard 6/10 flex. So they’re a pretty good match flex-wise. If I was being fussy I would want 6/10 or 7/10 in the bindings on the Standard, but any of that soft bindings/stiffer board feeling is going to be very subtle between those two, and if you’re not driving the board really hard it’ll probably be unnoticeable.

          Reply
          • Alex says

            November 7, 2019 at 2:44 pm

            Thanks a lot for the information. That is really informative.
            At the same time my Burton AMB is 2 years old already and got a bit softer so that should also match bindings and looks like with my skill I won’t notice real difference.

          • Nate says

            November 8, 2019 at 12:51 pm

            You’re very welcome Alex. Hope you have an awesome season!

          • Alex says

            November 7, 2019 at 2:46 pm

            By the way, as you wrote – 2019 model got new highback. Have you tried that one or is it the same as 2018 model?

          • Nate says

            November 8, 2019 at 12:52 pm

            Hi Alex

            The last model of the DS I rode was the 2018, so I’m not sure how much that effects the 2019 and 2020 models.

          • Alex says

            November 11, 2019 at 8:11 am

            Okay, I found out what is the issue and decided to leave it here in case it will help someone one day or just for you Nate to consider in reviews.
            Basically, my Burton AMB 10US doesn’t fit in any bindings size M because of the wide heel. I have tried Flux, Bent Metal, Union and even Union L size didn’t work for me.
            I assume the only option to go with M bindings is to use Burton – but I will double check that this week in store.
            Sorry, I know it’s pretty off topic but I wanted to share this information with you.

            In case Burton bindings would work, do you prefer Malavita over Cartel or vise verse for Yes! Standard?

          • Nate says

            November 12, 2019 at 12:50 pm

            Hi Alex

            Thanks for the info. Always good to get more info – and it prompted me to check the Burton boots I have with me currently (Imperial, Swath Boa, Ruler & Driver X) in my M Union Falcors. I found they fit in the heel, but they were certainly tight – and tighter than the other boots I tried to get in there. The Swath Boa was particularly tight – to a point, that it would be an effort every time to get them in – and overtime might cause damage to the boot, potentially. So, certainly Burton boots, seem wider in the heel – not just the AMBs. In saying that, the Swatch Boa were a squeeze in my Malavita Ms – just as much so. They fit for sure, but were a squeeze. I hadn’t noticed it with previous Burton boots, in the Malavitas, but if the AMBs are particularly wide, there’s no guarantees. Possible that the Cartel is a little wider in the heel? But yeah, see how you go when you try them out.

            For the Standard both the Cartel and Malavita would work for sure. I would personally lean just that little bit towards the Cartel, just because they’re a closer flex match, IMO (6/10 vs the 5.5/10 of the Malavitas). But yeah, both really suitable for the job.

          • Alex says

            November 14, 2019 at 1:23 am

            Hi Nate,

            I absolutely agree with you. I did the same thing and tried a bunch of Burton boots with Cartel M in the shop. Swath turned out to be the widest ones for the newest seasons which makes sense cause as far as I know historically there was Ambush line then AMB and Swath is the latest. My AMB actually is even wider than Swath.

            Anyway I bought myself a pair of Cartels cause it is much more easier to get in compared to Union M that I own and shouldn’t be that problem now. Also, from what I’ve checked – Burtons bindings are the widest in heel compared to Union, Bent Metal, Flux. The only wider option I found is GNU fast fastec.

          • Nate says

            November 14, 2019 at 12:30 pm

            Hi Alex

            Thanks for the update. Good to hear you found a good fit for the AMB. Yeah that was the impression I go too – that the Swath was kind of a continuation of sorts of the AMB. Hope you enjoy your new setup and have an awesome season!

  10. Evgeny says

    October 18, 2019 at 8:24 am

    Well, i’ve just bought the bindings and i am a bit upset. It’s rated as 4/5 of flex by Flux and as 5/10 by you. But the DS’ highback is too soft, for real, it’s even softer than Than union contact’s one. And i was going to ride something mid-stiff like Salomon super 8 at this bindings. But i have some doubts it will feel good and can give enough response on the heel edge.

    Reply
    • Evgeny says

      October 18, 2019 at 8:37 am

      I am sorry Flux rated them as 3/5, but i can’t still aply it to highback

      Reply
      • Nate says

        October 18, 2019 at 1:07 pm

        Hi Evgeny

        As per my other message – the flex of a binding is part highback flex and part baseplate flex – and the flex of the DS is softer up the top of the high back, but it’s stiffer at the base of the highback. For more details, check out my first reply above.

        Reply
    • Nate says

      October 18, 2019 at 1:05 pm

      Hi Evgeny

      Thanks for your message and I understand your concern.

      What I find with the DS is that it has a fair bit of flex in the top half of the highback, but the base of the highback is quite a bit stiffer. The other thing to consider is that the flex of binding is made up of the flex of the highback and the flex of the base plate. It’s not all about how much you can or can’t twist or flex the top of the high back. The DSs in my experience feel like a 5/10 on snow (which would be a 2.5/5, so a little softer than what Flux rates them). I always go off feel on snow, rather than what the highback feels like. I have always found the DS to feel more responsive than what the flex suggests too. Usually a 5/10 flexing binding would have around a mid-level response (around 3/10 for response) but the DS feel like they give more than that. Part of that is probably down to a stiffer baseplate and the way they wrap your foot really snug in the binding too (boot/ankle support is one of the big plusses with Flux bindings). But I go off feel mostly rather than specs, and I’ve always felt the DS to have good response for it’s flex.

      That said, something like the Salomon Super 8 (which I rate as a flex feel of 7/10), might benefit from stiffer bindings. I think the DS would go fine on it, but you might get a bit more out of it with bindings with a rating more around that 7/10 flex mark.

      Hope this helps

      Reply
      • Evgeny says

        October 18, 2019 at 10:37 pm

        Thank you for such detailed reply, Nate! I appreciate it! Well, i haven’t rode it yet so i hope the binding gonna surprise me one the slopes. Have a good season!

        Reply
        • Nate says

          October 19, 2019 at 9:35 am

          You’re very welcome Evgeny – hope you have a great season too! Let me know how you get on, once you’ve had a chance to ride with them

          Reply
  11. Rafael says

    April 7, 2019 at 6:57 am

    ohh thats simple but great; i will just go with the xf… and if it s good, i can look aaround for an dsw. it s not that i dont wanna swap; even the color doesn‘t match at all… the reason is that
    i thinked, that i will go with a less direct binding on the aviator, because more freestyle focus… and because i just like to change the setup ;-)…
    actualy i dont except the aviator is great for doing a lot of butters… but the wings also could help for load up and pop off?
    what you think about changing the mountain twin for the aviator? i will carve down the groomers and freestyle… i hope that the aviator catchs even less an edge than the mountain twin?… especialy for landings and rolls? and to improove my switch-skills.

    Reply
    • Nate says

      April 8, 2019 at 1:01 pm

      Hi Rafael

      In my experience, if you’re looking for a more freestyle compliment to your Flagship, I would usually say Mountain Twin over Aviator. The Aviator is a bit more aggressive, stiffer and has more camber. I would say more catchy vs the Mountain Twin, but still not overly catchy. A little more pop than the Mountain Twin – so it’s got that in it’s favor for jumps, ollies etc. Switch-wise, I would say about the same for riding switch vs the Mountain Twin.

      Reply
  12. Rafael says

    April 5, 2019 at 10:58 am

    did you also rode the DSW? there is the only difference the highback? flux rates the dsw as a 4/5, and the ds 3/5?
    will they work with the jones aviator? which is pretty stiff board. and i will use pretty hard boots also. ride insanos.
    at the moment i have the mountain twin. but thinking about changing into the aviator.
    what you think about that?

    Reply
    • Nate says

      April 5, 2019 at 4:18 pm

      Hi Rafael

      I haven’t ridden the DSW unfortunately, but yeah looks like Flux rate them as stiffer. Assuming that Flex rating translates to around a 7/10 or 8/10, then it would be a good match flex-wise to the Aviator. The DSW is designed with that wing high-back to help with presses. Is that something you would be looking to do on your aviator? I remember in previous discussions you got the XF. That would be a great match for the Aviator. Any reason you don’t want to use those? Or do you want separate bindings for each board, so you don’t have to swap them over?

      Reply
  13. Tyler says

    December 18, 2018 at 10:57 pm

    Do you think these would pair well with a Rome Gangplank riding 50/50 park and small east coast resort groomers? Also what size would you recommend for a Burton size 10 boot?

    Reply
    • Nate says

      December 19, 2018 at 2:14 pm

      Hi Tyler

      Thanks for your message.

      I don’t currently test Rome gear, but based on the Flex, the DS should be a good match with that board.

      Size-wise, Large is the safest bet. You would probably get in a medium with Burton 10s, but the Large are a safer bet for the DS. I own 2016 DS in large (with 10s as well – Vans) and I find them a good size. There’s a bit of room in there – so the Medium would be a snugger fit if you wanted to risk it, but there is some risk that they’d be too small. I haven’t put Burton boots into Medium flux bindings, so I couldn’t say for sure.

      Hope this helps

      Reply
      • Tyler says

        December 19, 2018 at 2:44 pm

        Thanks man!

        Reply
        • Nate says

          December 19, 2018 at 8:11 pm

          You’re very welcome Tyler. Hope you have an awesome season!

          Reply
          • Tyler says

            December 28, 2018 at 1:25 am

            Hey Nate, just as a follow up… I ordered a pair 2019 Flux DS in large and medium to pair with my size 10 Burton boots. The large I just couldn’t get centered on the board and with the boot. Tried the medium and everything centered up much better. It’s a snug and nothing is maxed out but the toe ramp. It seems having shrink tech with some of these boots can make it hard to judge the best binding fit based on the manufacture recommendations. I think these bindings are just what I was looking for. Thank’s again for your help and all of your great reviews!

          • Nate says

            December 29, 2018 at 11:14 am

            Hi Tyler

            Thanks for the update. And good to know for others with a similar setup.

            Glad to hear you’re enjoying your new bindings!

  14. John L says

    January 17, 2016 at 5:49 pm

    So far I am pleased with these bindings overall paired with the Burton Moto boots, but I don’t like the high back adjustment method. Other manufacturers use better systems than Flux, in my opinion. However, the straps are very comfortable (and I have the 2015 model).

    Nate, do you think these are a good pairing with the 2016 Slash Brainstorm? I’m considering selling my 2016 Rome Tour for the Brainstorm.

    Reply
    • Nate says

      January 17, 2016 at 6:29 pm

      Hey John

      Thanks for the message.

      Yeah they would definitely pair well with the Brainstorm. They both have a medium flex so they should go well together.

      Reply

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